GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1003
Mario/Bowser
may be able to beat him and won't get anti-voted. And Mario/Bowser is
more iconic than Link/Ganondorf by an order of magnitude. Then again, that never helped Mario against Link before. |
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Exactly.
The same logic people are trying to use for saying Mario/Bowser could
beat Link/Ganondorf is the same logic people have used to argue for
Mario to win anything, and it hasn't worked without pulling Link out of
the way. --- http://i848.photobucket.com/albums/ab48/Leonhart4/Squall.jpg |
I
wouldn't take Mario/Bowser to win, but Mario/Sonic is like THE gaming
rivalry most people think of. I'd take it to win the contest. --- Xbox Live: Mach Tornado PSN: HeyGuysItsGhoul |
Any word on if Bacon will allow Mario/Sonic? |
Well,
Bacon's been online within the past 30 minutes or so, so if anyone sent
him a feedback ticket on their eligibility, I'm sure he'll answer it
sometime soon. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
I
wish people would stop reaching in arguments. I know you're trying to
find every insignificant detail imaginable to try and prove Link is
getting weaker, but the only counter-argument anyone needs is to show
that Link has won every contest in the past few years, and no one comes
close to him anymore. Cloud is getting significantly weaker, and
Sephiroth is probably not even in the top 5 anymore. Like Leon has been
arguing, the kings of anti-voting are Cloud and Sephiroth. No one* will
ever come close to these two. Trying to say Cloud and Sephiroth will win
because Link might get anti-voted is insanity. Also, I think the reason why you're arguing this point is because you're a big FF fan. I was the same way when I was arguing for Alyx over Lara Croft, and that was just one giant ****-up. Link is naturally stronger then FF7 by himself. Link will get a boost because of Skyward Sword. The site still favors Nintendo over anything. The Zelda franchise is so strong that just about every major game ranks in the top 15 on this site. Majora's Mask, a decent but not overly popular sequel, managed to win the last games contest. There's no way Link is going to lose to Cloud or Sephiroth or whatever other FF7 duo that makes it in. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see Charizard/Blastoise beat Cloud/Sephiroth. (* significant, Madden and Call of Duty and the like will probably get anti-voted more) --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2022 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4454 I think this is all that really needs to be said about Zelda becoming less significant here in recent years --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I think this is all that really needs to be said about Zelda becoming less significant here in recent years If you run that second poll again, the result would be different. Now that Nintendo is finally releasing information for the game, people are starting to get hyped for it. Also, Twilight Princess was an absolute monster when it came to hype. After Wind Waker "flopping", people were so excited to see a realistic Zelda game that they were already considering it the best game ever. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
I just realized that we shouldn't nominate Frog/Magus. It's not possible for Magus to choke and Frog to make a "impossible" comeback at the same time. The universe will implode! --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Black Turtle > Me |
Which is exactly why we need it! --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Leon
you have been here long enough to remember the day when Gordon Freeman
won his first match and somehow the universe didn't implode... Are we really going to take another risk? --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Black Turtle > Me |
Charizard/Blastoise
have zero chance of beating Cloud/Sephiroth. Well, not zero because
nothing is certain in these contests but it's pretty close! There's no stretching to see that Link has gotten weaker. He did 1% better against Cloud in 2010 than in 2005. Everyone agrees that Cloud has gotten a lot weaker since 2005, so since Link barely did better, he must have gotten weaker too. And all his 2010 matches confirm the same thing. This is patently clear after the 2010 final, and all those people who thought Link could go for 60% in that match have no room to talk here. And I'm a bigger Zelda fan than an FF fan. I was one of the few people cheering when Link blasted Snake out of the water with the ASV. --- 90s games > 00s games |
So
you're argument is that both got weaker, but Cloud dropped more, so now
that it's a different contest, Cloud will come back up while Link
doesn't? I don't follow your logic. Or you could mean Sephiroth will
make Cloud stronger, even those nothing will change because it's the
exact same fanbase voting for both of them, while Ganondorf won't add
anything to Link using... the same (but opposite) logic? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
And
Charizard beat Bowser and came close to beating Mario. Throw Blastoise
in there and they could beat Mario/Bowser, who would come close to, if
not beat Cloud/Sephiroth. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Link is definetly weaker now than in 2006/2007, but so is Cloud/Sephiroth. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
The
same logic people are trying to use for saying Mario/Bowser could beat
Link/Ganondorf is the same logic people have used to argue for Mario to
win anything, and it hasn't worked without pulling Link out of the way. But history is built into the very definition of the world rivalry. By definition it's ongoing. There's nothing like that for "favorite character." Or you could mean Sephiroth will make Cloud stronger, even those nothing will change because it's the exact same fanbase voting for both of them, while Ganondorf won't add anything to Link using... the same (but opposite) logic? Sephiroth and Cloud clearly have a more divergent fanbase than Link and Ganondorf, and the respective matches between the two of them should be proof enough. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
I
will offer an account bet with anyone >1500 karma that Cloud/Seph
will break 45% on Link/Ganon. Void if the match never takes place. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
That
would be a bad bet to take. I don't think anyone here is saying
Link/Ganon will get over 55% against Cloud/Sephiroth. If they are,
whoops. --- peace comes from within |
Soul claimed he was confident it would happen at the end of the last topic. --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Oh.
Yeah, I don't know about that. I'm 100% confident in Link/Ganon
winning, but I wouldn't expect them to win with over 55%. Maybe if
Skyward Sword comes out before the match and people adore it, but even
then... --- peace comes from within |
ZFS posted... That would be a bad bet to take. I don't think anyone here is saying Link/Ganon will get over 55% against Cloud/Sephiroth. If they are, whoops. Well, even though I think Link and Zelda in general is getting weaker, Cloud and FF7 is likely falling even faster. If anyone is going to be beating Link/Ganon, its not Cloud/Seph. I wouldn't be surprised if its 55% either, since who is going to vote for Sephiroth while not voting for Cloud as well, and the same with Ganon. I'd expect it would be just a normal Link vs Cloud match, and Link may get close to 55% in that match these days. --- http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/4479/467785-one_piece_we_go_super.jpg http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Assuming
we get Solid Snake/Liquid Snake and Samus/Ridley, do their relatively
weak partners cause them to lose to anyone besides the obvious top 3? MMX/Zero vs. Tifa/Aeris. Who wins and could either of them beat Sonic/Knuckles? Sonic/Robotnik? |
FateStayAlbion posted... ZFS posted... That would be a bad bet to take. I don't think anyone here is saying Link/Ganon will get over 55% against Cloud/Sephiroth. If they are, whoops. Well, even though I think Link and Zelda in general is getting weaker, Cloud and FF7 is likely falling even faster. If anyone is going to be beating Link/Ganon, its not Cloud/Seph. I wouldn't be surprised if its 55% either, since who is going to vote for Sephiroth while not voting for Cloud as well, and the same with Ganon. I'd expect it would be just a normal Link vs Cloud match, and Link may get close to 55% in that match these days. The thing that worries me about Link/Ganon and Cloud/Seph is the thoroughness of the original Link/Ganon match, and the much lower votals compared to Cloud/Seph There's obviously much more overlap with Link/Ganon than with Cloud/Seph. Some people like one but not the other. Actually, thinking about it, I'm taking Cloud/Seph over Link/Ganon easily. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
AxemRedRanger posted... Assuming we get Solid Snake/Liquid Snake and Samus/Ridley, do their relatively weak partners cause them to lose to anyone besides the obvious top 3? MMX/Zero vs. Tifa/Aeris. Who wins and could either of them beat Sonic/Knuckles? Sonic/Robotnik? X/Zero would trounce Tifa/Aeris and Sonic/Knuckles/Robotnic. Snake/Liquid and Samus/Ridley are probably #4 and #5 behind the obvious top 3, with MMX/Zero right behind them. If not X/Zero, than Ryu/Ken. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
I asked Bacon about the match pictures, and he said the form will be up "as soon as the bracket is formalized" so Luster, if you can find the URL for the form like the last few years, we can monitor it so when it goes up we'll know that the bracket is coming soon --- ~Zen |
KanzarisKelshen posted... From: red sox 777 | #067 Well, the ending to OOT is absolutely amazing, and more emotional than anything in FFVII. It's so sad, Link being sent back 7 years, to a world that knew nothing about his victories. Zelda says she wants Link to have a proper childhood but how can he after all he's gone through? He's supposed to just go back to being a normal anonymous 10 year old kid after being the Hero of Time and saving Hyrule? He's actually 9. I always knew he was a 7-year-old non-fairy boy turned into a 14-year-old (at least that's why I was so excited when I turned 14 myself =D). --- Nominate Left Pong Paddle vs. Right Pong Paddle for the Rivalry Contest! |
ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/26/2011 6:19:12 PM | message detail | quote I asked Bacon about the match pictures, and he said the form will be up "as soon as the bracket is formalized" so Luster, if you can find the URL for the form like the last few years, we can monitor it so when it goes up we'll know that the bracket is coming soon The form for match pictures is located here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/contribute/submit_contest_image.php You can see that it still lists Link/Santa in the dropdown list. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I
feel like Sonic/Robotnik or Sonic/Knuckles could come very close to or
even beat Samus/Ridley. Certainly much, much closer than Sonic could
come to Samus now. |
While
Board 8 may not think Link/Ganondorf is a great rivalry, I'm sure a ton
of Zelda fans who're in love with OoT are also in love with the
Link/Ganondorf rivalry. If OoT is their pinnacle of gaming, then
wouldn't they also be huge fans of the hero/villain show-down?
Ganondorf is a big presence in OoT, he is still strong even if not
N9-material, and he's large in other games like Wind Waker. Granted,
he's mostly around at the end of the other Zelda games, but his big role
throughout OoT will leave him burned into the minds of OoT's huge
fanbase. I think some of you guys are underestimating just how much the Zelda fanbase actually likes this rivalry. Link/Ganondorf should be set barring a huge rally behind Mario/Sonic or an impressive joke entry. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
To
put it another way, the same people who'd vote for Link as the greatest
character ever and OoT as the greatest game ever would also view
Link/Ganondorf as the greatest rivalry ever, just because if the hero
and game are so fantastic, wouldn't the hero's interactions with the
villain also be fantastic to them? --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
X/Zero would trounce Tifa/Aeris and Sonic/Knuckles/Robotnic. X/Zero would hardly trounce Tifa/Aeris, considering the first two and last two are virtually equals! Who knows if they'd even win? --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
It's strange then to think that Ganon isn't considered the greatest villain ever then. it makes me think not as many consider it the best rivalry if they don't care for the villain (relatively). On the "rivalries matter" line of thought, X/Zero should be stronger than both characters, as will something like Sora/Riku. |
I guess one of the most interesting things to find out about this contest is how seriously people take the "rivalry" thing. I imagine there might exist a sort of hierarchy between the different types of rivalries, that might influence their performances. Legendary gaming rivalry (Mario/Sonic) Personal nemeses (e.g. Cloud/Sephiroth Frog/Magus) Good-guy rivals (e.g. X/Zero, Cecil/Kain) Hero-Bad guy (e.g. Link/Ganon, Crono/Lavos) Bad-guy rivals (e.g. Xemnas/Marluxia) Romantic rivals (e.g. Tifa/Aeris) --- Ours is not to reason why, ours is but to do and die. |
Hey guys, I asked this on my Joke Nomination topic, but I don't have enough responses: Who do you guys think would be the best rival for L-Block? 1._Z-Block 2._Line Piece 3._Square Piece 4._Inverted L-Block 5._Other --- Nominate Left Pong Paddle vs. Right Pong Paddle for the Rivalry Contest! |
It's
obviously Z-Block. Z-Block is the most annoying block in Tetris because
it's hard to use it to clear a line. That makes Z-Block an ideal
antagonist for L-Block. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
So
you're argument is that both got weaker, but Cloud dropped more, so now
that it's a different contest, Cloud will come back up while Link
doesn't? I don't follow your logic. Or you could mean Sephiroth will
make Cloud stronger, even those nothing will change because it's the
exact same fanbase voting for both of them, while Ganondorf won't add
anything to Link using... the same (but opposite) logic? Seph adds a lot more to Cloud than Ganon does to Link, yes. But even if it were Link/Ganon/Cloud/Seph in a 4-way, I'd still take Link/Ganon and expect 51% or so. This matchup is even better for Cloud/Sephiroth than that though, because the contest is for "best rivalry," so Cloud/Sephiroth have good winning chances. I certainly don't discount the possibility of Link/Ganon winning. As for the specific argument that started all that talk about anti-votes and trends, Yoblazer said that he thought Cloud/Seph couldn't beat Link/Ganon in the finals but might be able to in earlier rounds. My reply was that I didn't think so, that whoever wins that match would likely win in any round. A few years ago, when Link wasn't anti-voted at all, he may have gotten a boost from facing Cloud in the final, but nowadays it would be insignificant, unable to impact a match that wasn't already basically 50/50. --- 90s games > 00s games |
And
Charizard beat Bowser and came close to beating Mario. Throw Blastoise
in there and they could beat Mario/Bowser, who would come close to, if
not beat Cloud/Sephiroth. No, Charizard/Blastoise would not come near Mario/Bowser. Though I would like to see the look on Leon's face if it happens. But it won't happen. Mario/Bowser is far more iconic, Mario > Charizard, and Bowser > Blastoise. As for 55%, it's hard to put up 55% on Cloud. Really hard. Link's never gotten 54% before, even on the day TP came out. In 5 years he's moved up 1% on Cloud. If you want to be more generous to Link we can extend that timeframe back to 2003, in which case he's gained 5% in 7 years. --- 90s games > 00s games |
So I'm guessing we didn't get any updates to the nomination suggestion database today. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
From: red sox 777 | #187 I actually don't care much about Mario as a character! I wasn't very bothered by Charizard doing well on Mario last year! I love Bowser though, so I'd hate to see it for his sake, but Blastoise is probably one of the few Pokemon I actually like, so it wouldn't be all bad. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Nothing was added to the suggestion database today. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Could you go over again what's been added to the database so far? --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
Huh, a Castlevania series poll. Interesting. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
the new castlevania (well, the old one for 360 owners) comes out today on PSN for the first time --- ~Zen |
The
last poll option was getting anti-voted in the beginning of the poll,
but it's going down in percentage a lot after the first minute. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Think today is the Castlevania's 25th Anniversary. GameFAQs not owning a Castlevania game bad news. --- peace comes from within |
It seems weird that this series beat Halo and hung tough with KH with those numbers. |
This can't mean good things for Alucard. ...Which means even worse things for Magus! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Pretty sure Castlevania as a series has never been all that popular here. It's always been about SOTN. --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
Think today is the Castlevania's 25th Anniversary. Nope, it's not the 25th anniversary yet. GameFAQs doesn't list any Castlevania games released in 1986, but there was one released in 1987. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
