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#1 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2011 11:50:12 PM | message detail | (edited)
Rivalry Contest Edition

Guru Contest Nomination: Mega Man X/Zero

Nomination as a favor to DetroitDJ for donating to a charity on behalf of Board 8: Vyse/Galcian

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://www.thengamer.com/
http://thengamer.com/xstats

~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

!yawa tsoP
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#2 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 9/24/2011 11:23:08 PM | message detail
zomg rivalries
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#3 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/24/2011 11:24:17 PM | message detail
From now in, in debated matches, I'm always picking what I'd like to see advance.

For the most part, anyway.
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#4 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/24/2011 11:34:42 PM | message detail
Mario vs. Crono is the true deserving winner of this contest.
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#5 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/24/2011 11:37:35 PM | message detail
Need ideas on what to nominate? Check out the full nomination database that GameFAQs uses:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFdYeXoxbmcyYjJnMEZLYmhsTzFWS0E

I better post the link early on in this topic so it's easy for others to find it.
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#6 | swirIdude | Posted 9/24/2011 11:48:06 PM | message detail
I hope that database gets updated soon. I'd like to see what write-ins are making moves.
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#7 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/24/2011 11:50:27 PM | message detail
First post edited to include some relevant information.
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#8 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/24/2011 11:56:00 PM | message detail
There won't be any updates to the database until at least Monday at the earliest.
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#9 | ZFS | Posted 9/25/2011 12:22:48 PM | message detail
Ganondorf superior to Team Scar !
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#10 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:23:22 PM | message detail
Team Twin Scars > Team Twin Snakes

Book it
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#11 | ZFS | Posted 9/25/2011 12:24:02 PM | message detail
Needs more Team Boss.
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#12 | GranzonEx | Posted 9/25/2011 12:25:16 PM | message detail
Needs more Snake vs BB.
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#13 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:25:45 PM | message detail
Team XYZero > Team IT'S TOO BIG
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#14 | GranzonEx | Posted 9/25/2011 12:27:01 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #013
Team XYZero > Team IT'S TOO BIG


Which team is that?
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#15 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:27:23 PM | message detail
Samus/Ridley
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#16 | ZFS | Posted 9/25/2011 12:27:45 PM | message detail
all rivalries should have these team names as the voting options
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#17 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 12:28:41 PM | message detail
Post your joke nomination ideas here!

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60418458
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#18 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:29:49 PM | message detail
No jokes allowed please
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#19 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 12:30:12 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
all rivalries should have these team names as the voting options

Agreed!
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#20 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/25/2011 12:33:16 PM | message detail
Yeah, I would like team names, but that's not going to happen.

Anyway, I will pick Link /Ganondorf, but I honestly do think that Cloud / Sephiroth has a very real chances of winning this, better than Cloud in a 1v1 environment at least.
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#21 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:34:16 PM | message detail
Can't wait until we get to the finals and we hear the cries of "No we can't let FFVII win again!" and they rally for Link.
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#22 | GranzonEx | Posted 9/25/2011 12:36:53 PM | message detail
We can't let FF break the LAW.
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#23 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/25/2011 12:37:42 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #021
Can't wait until we get to the finals and we hear the cries of "No we can't let FFVII win again!" and they rally for Link.


You mean the cries of "BEST. RIVALRY. EVER" as Mario/Sonic beats Link/Ganon with 50.05%!
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#24 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:38:25 PM | message detail
#25 | ZFS | Posted 9/25/2011 12:39:32 PM | message detail
Mario / Crono is what it should be tbqh
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#26 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:41:49 PM | message detail
"Over the years, Mario and Crono have fought many embittered battles, full of blood, sweat, and tears. Now, for the first and last time, they will team up to take down the LAW.

Coming this fall."
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#27 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 12:45:34 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
"Over the years, Mario and Crono have fought many embittered battles, full of blood, sweat, and tears. Now, for the first and last time, they will team up to take down the LAW.

Coming this fall."


"Bad Boyz Team" would be an awesome name if we're having Sonic/Mario breaking the LAW.
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#28 | ZFS | Posted 9/25/2011 12:46:31 PM | message detail
would watch in glorious 3D
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#29 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 12:48:23 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, 3D wouldn't be a cheap gimmick anymore!
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#30 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 12:50:40 PM | message detail | (edited)
Oh, BTW, when does the nomination fase ends?
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#31 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:50:43 PM | message detail
#32 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 12:51:27 PM | message detail
So... it could end tonight and that's it?
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#33 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:52:10 PM | message detail
Bacon will usually give a notice when nominations are going to close.
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#34 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/25/2011 12:58:26 PM | message detail
I think we have at least a full weak of nominations to go, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
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#35 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 12:59:35 PM | message detail
Well, if this isn't going to be a full 2-month contest, Bacon doesn't have to be in too big of a hurry.
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#36 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/25/2011 1:04:01 PM | message detail
I don't even want this to be a full 2-month contest. If we get 128 entrants, that's 256 individual characters. I shudder at the thought of all the terrible fodder characters we're going too get.

Some people claim that 128 contests have too much fodder, this will be so much worse.
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#37 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 1:04:37 PM | message detail
There's no way we get 128 entrants. I'm convinced of that.

But we could still get a 64-team, 24-hour contest.

We'll see what Bacon does.
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#38 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/25/2011 1:06:52 PM | message detail
2-months, 64 teams. Yeah, I guess I would be fine with that. I wouldn't mind shortening round 1 to 12 hours though, as someone suggested earlier.
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#39 | Advokaiser | Posted 9/25/2011 1:12:49 PM | message detail
So, the optimal format consensus would be 64-entrants, 12-hour-matches for Round 1, 24-hour-matches for Round 2 and beyond, right?
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#40 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 1:13:27 PM | message detail
Depends on how good the matches actually turn out to be.
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#41 | ZFS | Posted 9/25/2011 1:16:47 PM | message detail
64-team bracket sounds good to me. I don't think you need more than that for this type of contest, because you still end up with 128 different characters that way. Also, round 1 matches being 12-hour affairs should be a new rule for all contests, I think.
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#42 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/25/2011 1:26:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 4:04:37 PM | message detail | quote
But we could still get a 64-team, 24-hour contest.

Ultimaphazon | Posted 9/25/2011 4:06:52 PM | message detail | quote
2-months, 64 teams. Yeah, I guess I would be fine with that. I wouldn't mind shortening round 1 to 12 hours though, as someone suggested earlier.


I had the idea of shortening round 1 to 12 hours, just incase Bacon can't get the contest started in time to avoid having this contest interfere with the Christmas break. I know Ngamer liked the idea I came up with.



There were 6049 nominations after the first 24 hours.
There have now been 2153 nominations in the past 24 hours (as of 4:10 PM EST).
Overall, we are up to 8202 nominations as of 4:10 PM EST.
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#43 | special_sauce | Posted 9/25/2011 1:30:58 PM | message detail
^ how do you know that?
and where did you get the nomination database?

who are you
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#44 | foxhead84 | Posted 9/25/2011 1:40:16 PM | message detail | (edited)
Well the nomination database can be found here

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFdYeXoxbmcyYjJnMEZLYmhsTzFWS0E`

How does he know that??? Now that's a good question
#45 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/25/2011 9:26:10 PM | message detail
As for the Link/Ganondorf vs Cloud/Sephiroth debate..

...I'm still sticking wtih Link/Ganondorf. If we're talking about finlas when the typical user is sick of FF7, and it comes down to Nintendo vs Square (FF7 has been declining for a long time now), I'm going to trust Link to be that near dominant on this site.

I tried to think like some of you guys when it came to Zelda vs FF in the series contest, and while it was close in 2006, It definitely wouldn't be close today.

While it would be closer than a direct Link/Cloud match-up, I don't think there are enough people that will actually answer the question the way you guys think they will; it doesn't mean they're drones of course.. I just think there are that many Zelda fans on the site.
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#46 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/25/2011 9:32:56 PM | message detail
Mario/Crono would probably have the best early vote and final hour ever. It'll need every bit of midnight power it can get to overcome Link/Ganon's day vote power.
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#47 | pjbasis | Posted 9/25/2011 9:36:52 PM | message detail
I honestly thing Mario/Bowser has a way bigger chance of winning this than most people think.

Because this is more than just a tag team. A substantial amount will take the relationship of the characters into account.
#48 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/25/2011 9:37:58 PM | message detail
0% chance Mario/Bowser beats Link/Ganondorf. It just won't happen.

I give them a miniscule chance of beating Cloud/Sephiroth, but I wouldn't expect such a match to be close beyond the Power Hour.
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#49 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/25/2011 9:41:10 PM | message detail
The format is new, so it's pretty unpredictable. I'll give Mario/Bowser a 2% chance of winning the whole thing. Let's see.......

Cloud/Sephiroth 50%
Link/Ganondorf 35%
Mario/Bowser 2%
X/Zero 1%
Other 12%

Sounds about right.
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#50 | MarioSuperstar | Posted 9/25/2011 9:41:32 PM | message detail
I don't see Mario/Bowser having a chance either. That's just putting way too much faith in the relationship.

I think the biggest question this contest will obviously have is how important "relationship" will be to voters and it certainly shouldn't be based on intelligence. I think this contest will likely have a "Series" sort of feeling.

The way I see it, if <x> is your favorite character or preferred character over the other one in a poll, you'll likely like their relationship better as well.
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