GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1001
MMXCalibur
deserves a lot of credit, really. He developed one of the first
contest-related websites, which we used until the Board 8 Wiki came
along. He came up with the Prophet Challenge and consistently wrote
awesome writeups for the matches (I honestly still remember the gist of
his MC/Crash Bandicoot writeup all the way back in 2004, one of the funniest things I've read on this board). Nowadays he's known as that guy who makes the same topic over and over again, but he definitely used to be a great contest guy. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
 
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KanzarisKelshen posted... MM won not because Brawl was antivoted but because it shares the same fanbase as the strongest game on the site, reduced somewhat due to being the second installment, and it was put up in a classic Nintendo vs. Square match that got every visitor to the site jonesin' for its victory. The rallied momentum it got gave it a comfortable win, but even if you discount its first, bandwagoned hour, MM wins by like 100 votes against Brawl. Additionally, saying it's a game of the 90s and such is all well and good, but it's also missing the point. The real thing you want to say about it is that MM is the Wish You Were Here to OoT's Dark Side of the Moon. A very, very sizeable number of people like that album best out all Pink Floyd albums, same way a ton of people adore MM's introspectiveness over OoT's bombast and glow. It's strong, and with the two juggernaught games out as well as RBY and SM64 (probably the only two games on the Brawl/FFX/MM ballpark or above) NITT, it cruised to its deserved win. This is pretty much my "intuitive" reasoning for why FFVIII is going to be way stronger than people think. |
People think 8 is weak? Have they not seen Squall? |
Not "weak," per se, just maybe weaker than VI and X. --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
Was MMX really the guy behind the Prophet challenge? Goodness, I forgot about that. Here are GameSpot's if-not-official-now-then-it-will-be-any-minute stats for the top sixty-four of its vote-in: Luigi 3% 9,565 Yoshi 2% 8,917 Garrus Vakarian 2% 8,701 Companion Cube 2% 8,621 Tails 2% 8,401 Diddy Kong 2% 7,668 Alyx Vance 2% 7,566 Toad 2% 7,133 Otacon 2% 7,072 Cortana 2% 6,979 Clank 2% 6,962 Dogmeat 2% 6,918 Epona 2% 6,811 Chocobo 2% 6,671 Daxter 2% 6,477 Navi 2% 6,452 Dominic Santiago 2% 6,403 Captain Price 2% 6,228 HK-47 2% 6,115 Falco 2% 6,108 Zero 2% 6,054 Moogle 2% 5,795 Agro the Horse 2% 5,719 Sully 2% 5,714 Sheva Alomar 2% 5,703 Vivi 2% 5,565 Midna 1% 5,351 Elika 1% 5,166 Dog 1% 5,002 Athena 1% 4,978 Wakka 1% 4,931 Launchpad McQuack 1% 4,926 Rush 1% 4,800 Frog 1% 4,656 Albert Einstein 1% 4,627 The Darkness 1% 4,515 Lucca 1% 4,464 Zeke Dunbar 1% 4,354 R.O.B. 1% 4,085 Jan Ors 1% 4,014 Barry Burton 1% 4,012 Minsc 1% 3,987 Servbot 1% 3,972 Prinny 1% 3,916 Lian Xing 1% 3,652 Murray 1% 3,648 Goombella 1% 3,611 Bentley 1% 3,596 Blob 1% 3,538 Luke Triton 1% 3,445 Globox 1% 3,377 Geno 1% 3,331 Maya Fey 1% 3,282 Alex Jacobson 1% 3,259 Issun 1% 3,255 Doc Louis 1% 3,205 Dandelion 1% 3,149 Morte 1% 3,119 Barry Wheeler 1% 2,978 Kai 1% 2,946 Johnson 1% 2,928 Crow 1% 2,881 Aika 1% 2,862 Arokh 1% 2,796 It'll be interesting to see how this changes when it hits the actual contest-format; this is pretty much just a way for GameSpot to see if you know/like a character. Due to that difference in formats, I think Epona's going to distance herself from Navi as the clear LoZ-choice in the contest. Navi's very recognizable as the fairy constantly looking for your attention, but she's not nearly as likable because...well, she's a fairy constantly looking for your attention. Epona's also been in more games as well, so that can't hurt. That's just theory though. What we can see for fact though is that she's #13 here (#5 of Nintendo-characters, #1 of LoZ-characters). Interestingly, Otacon beat her, justifying the NRT's results as much as an 80-way multiple-vote poll on GameSpot can justify a board-contest on GameFAQs. This list probably makes Luigi the favorite, though I may still back Yoshi. Probably nobody else has a real chance without rallying, which I don't think will be nearly the factor it has been for their past two contests. Garrus Vakarian will be interesting to watch. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
FF8
has strength, but it still lost to MGS in 2009 and hasn't beaten FFX or
FF3/6 in any FF-poll I can find. We also haven't seen ANY character
from FF8 in a contest besides Squall (who wasn't impressive here until
KH hit), so I'll continue being skeptical. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
LinkMarioSamus posted... KamikazePotato posted... (Melee isn't either, by the way) Yeah, it is. Melee is a game that carried an entire system for 5-6 years. It's almost universally loved. Brawl doesn't even have close to the prestige Melee does. Actually Brawl was more successful, both critically and commercially, and most people who are fans of both games prefer Brawl (obviously I'm in the minority here). It's just that Brawl has a small but loud hate-base. For me, Brawl easily beats the heart out of Melee in the one area most important in a fighting game: character cast. Brawl just falls flat everywhere else (except for soundtrack and singleplayer, and the latter still isn't all that good even if it is better than Melee's). So some dumb magazine says so and you're repeating it to fit in since you haven't played either game, okay. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· "Ulti ults his ultsome self." -Sir Chris |
From: HaRRicH | #155 Yep, I think he ran it for the first...three or four contests? Then Sir Chris picked it up for another contest, but the interest wasn't the same without MMX. Also, Clank > Epona I can get on board with this! From: HaRRicH | #156 Facing Solid Snake in your only pre-KH match generally isn't good for helping you look impressive. There's still evidence out there that MGS and FF hurt each other anyhow. Also, FFVIII has the same problem Majora's Mask does: It's the game that came right after FFVII/OoT, so I'd wager they have the highest overlap with them compared to any other game in the series. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4257 I mean, yes, Majora still finishes third here, but we know MM/WW isn't nearly that close 1-on-1. But it's so weird to look at that poll and then look at these old Zelda polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1180 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1225 MM's certainly come a long way since 2003 (when those polls were run). And for what it's worth, we haven't had an FF poll since 2006, and FFVIII did pretty well, all things considered. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2593 I think I'd still take FFX head-to-head to beat FFVIII, but the prospect is still enticing all the same. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
F*** yeah I voted for Garrus, what a boss. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page, Rest in peace Mitch Stuekerjuergen :( |
Has LMS posted that site with the top 100 games yet? That should be solid evidence for his arguments. |
Don't encourage him. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page, Rest in peace Mitch Stuekerjuergen :( |
Squall
was still unreadable at best that year. Considering some of the boosts
other characters received from KH while FF8 was the most hated FF-game
at that time...sure, it's not guaranteed and the FF/MGS-idea isn't
without its merits, but I remember fans saying Squall was redeemed as a
character due to KH too. FF8 certainly could age like wine if LoZ:MM is a sign of things. That's still a tough gamble to make though, and it hasn't seemed like FF8 made a similar turn-around at this time. LoZ:MM looks to be #2 in a modern-LoZ poll if we ever held one (it took #3 in the console-LoZ poll, where LoZ:LttP took #2), while FF8 took #3 in its modern-FF behind FFX. I believe LoZ:MM has been remade/ported twice over the years to FF8's one, too, so it seems a little more likely to have held up. Speaking of holding up, how's FF doing since FFX from ten years ago? When your series gradually loses its pull and some of its biggest games show signs of damage from it, it's hard to think FF8 can benefit in that atmosphere. It's hard to rule out such an upset when Squall can beat Auron and we haven't had many clear reads of FF8. Still, FFX has done plenty more and FF8 didn't look like a #2-game to its series in 2009. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Everyone knows Valkyria Chronicles is the true Game of the Decade. Now play it, dammit. --- If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time. |
I just think particularly that of all the games, VIII shares it's fanbase with VII the most. Any entire series poll it's going to suffer from that. I also have a theory about the "moving golden age." There is a sweet spot to how many years ago gamers tend to think of games as the best, usually corresponding to when they first got into it. The SNES is slowly giving way to the PS1/N64 era. |
Oh,
I can kinda agree with the idea that the N64/PS1 era is starting to
become more of a beneficiary of nostalgia than ever before. We've seen
Mario 64 seemingly overtake Mario 3 and Mario World as the #1 Mario game
on this site, and we've seen Majora's strength grow. There may be other examples of this, but it's definitely a possibility. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view/593815/frasier-and-niles-dance-o.gif |
Just saw Yo's post. in topic 1000. I lol'd. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
HaRRicH posted... This list probably makes Luigi the favorite, though I may still back Yoshi. Probably nobody else has a real chance without rallying, which I don't think will be nearly the factor it has been for their past two contests. Garrus Vakarian will be interesting to watch. Don't you think that Garrus (and Epona) will be anti-voted to hell by You-Know-Who??? |
UltimaterializerX posted... LinkMarioSamus posted... KamikazePotato posted... (Melee isn't either, by the way) Yeah, it is. Melee is a game that carried an entire system for 5-6 years. It's almost universally loved. Brawl doesn't even have close to the prestige Melee does. Actually Brawl was more successful, both critically and commercially, and most people who are fans of both games prefer Brawl (obviously I'm in the minority here). It's just that Brawl has a small but loud hate-base. For me, Brawl easily beats the heart out of Melee in the one area most important in a fighting game: character cast. Brawl just falls flat everywhere else (except for soundtrack and singleplayer, and the latter still isn't all that good even if it is better than Melee's). So some dumb magazine says so and you're repeating it to fit in since you haven't played either game, okay. Of course I have played both and I prefer Melee. However, I don't think Brawl is much worse, which is not the usual opinion of Brawl for those who prefer Melee. As a matter of fact, I'd vote for Brawl over Ocarina of Time now. Just because someone considers Wind Waker to be the best 3D Zelda, it does not mean they have a "wrong" opinion on Smash (even then, I prefer Melee for the same reason I prefer WW and TP to OoT and MM and prefer both Galaxies to SM64 - because Melee feels more action-packed). --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
LMS, do you enjoy rubbing your opinions in our faces? I do understand though; it feels good to talk about how Link actually deserves to win every contest because he's objectively a great character. --- 90s games > 00s games |
LMS doesn't actually have opinions. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
link4lyfe |
LMS
reminds me of a pro wrestling announcer who constantly reminds of us of
the main event at every possible moment, even at inane times. Unfortunately random opinions on random things aren't a particularly passable main event. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
red sox 777 posted... LMS, do you enjoy rubbing your opinions in our faces? I do understand though; it feels good to talk about how Link actually deserves to win every contest because he's objectively a great character. Well at least it's better than rubbing other sites' lists in your faces...okay, whatever, I'll quit. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #173 I doubt it. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
RE4 and Oblivion killing MGS4? Hell yes! Great poll if this keeps up! --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
MGS keeps looking worse and worse with each passing year. MGS4 losing to FFIV? Part of me wonders if RE4 and MGS4 aren't splitting votes though. I don't think Oblivion would get this close to RE4 normally. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
I don't think Oblivion would get this close to RE4 normally. Skyrim. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
RE MGS and FF always seem to affect each other. PlayStation SFF! At least Persona 4 isn't going to finish last. That's all I can really hope for from these home page voters. --- If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time. |
I
suppose hype may be part of it. Oblivion won the board vote, for cryin'
out loud. It was winning the poll outright for the first several
minutes. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
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Well, I'm not here to get girls, so I'm not too concerned. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
Hype is probably the main part of it. I haven't seen a game hyped as much as Skyrim since SSBB. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
Actually, contest stats lure ngirl in every time. --- If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time. |
Be
a MAN and tell me that with your main. Only then will I believe you.
Until then, I'll still take copies of my best stat posts to first dates. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: XxSoulxX | #183 Really? I didn't think it was quite that big on this site (I know it's not the most hyped game on this board). Think it's more hyped on GameFAQs than Mass Effect 3 or Zelda? --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
From: XxSoulxX | #183 I haven't seen any Skyrim hype, but I don't care about Elder Scrolls or go to places that do. So whatever. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
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I
have a hard time believing people are actively hyped for Skyward Sword.
They might vote for it on a poll just because it's Zelda, but I
certainly haven't seen any sort of serious excitement surrounding that
game. Skyrim probably has more around here -- board 8, that is -- than
Zelda, anyway. --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
Think it's more hyped on GameFAQs than Mass Effect 3 or Zelda? Easily. Zelda has 0 hype for it, and Mass Effect 3 isn't in the radar either. As far as hype goes, it's Skyrim out front for sure. Batman, Battlefield 3, AC, Bioshock, Call of Duty, Gears, and Halo are all in the secondary grouping, but Skyrim is easily the top runner. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
From: ZFS | #189 Don't make me bust out My Games Stats! --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
I didn't think people marked messages in this topic. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Huh, Oblivion's really fading now (INTO OBLIVION). May end up losing to FFIV in the end. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Remember when Oblivion had one of the worst board votes. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
MWC
has enough hype for Skyward Sword to balance out the rest of the board,
I think. He's hyping it as a top 3 game of all time and possibly even
better than OOT if all goes right. Which, remember, for MWC, means a
lot, because it's better than everything outside the top 3 put together,
or at least pretty close. --- 90s games > 00s games |
mwc still posts --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
MWC hasn't been on the board in months, so he doesn't really count at the moment. Well, or ever, but especially not now. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Well, either way, sitewide Skyward Sword is going to be the most hyped game since Brawl, by a large margin. --- 90s games > 00s games |
So,
I know games =/= characters, but do MGS's recent poll performances over
the last year or so give you second thoughts about Solid Snake &
co. in the next Character Battle? Say, a Snake/Sephiroth rematch pops up? Do you still take Snake? Or are you changing sides on the Snake/Mario/Samus debate? Are we taking Squall over Snake yet? I hope so. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
That
probably gives it more credit than it deserves. While it may still be
true, the actual hype surrounding SS won't be anywhere near Brawl
levels, or even TP levels. --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
