GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1001
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Melee is a party game too. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
"MM
shouldn't be GOTD because it's just leftovers from the '90s" is also
100% opinion it's merely your reasoning for saying it shouldn't be GOTD.
"Brawl shouldn't be GOTD because it's a game with a very mixed
reception from its own fanbase and about half of its own fanbase doesn't
even think it's the best game in its own series" is also "based in
fact" while still being 100% opinion. But this argument is silly. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #098 No kidding Melee has more nostalgia. It's 7 years older. But LOL at either game being "serious." --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
ZFS posted... I think the 00s were a lot better than the 90s, too, but Brawl winning doesn't reinforce that point any better than MM, in my mind. It's not like Zelda in the past decade has made much progress from the late 90s. Do you think Wind Waker would be better? Yes, Wind Waker WOULD be a better candidate for GotD. I agree that Zelda has not made much progress over where it was in the '90s aside from "becoming a more promising franchise". But that's it, it's just promising, which matters jack when franchises like Mario and (hopefully) FF and MGS have become better more quickly. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Wrong. The Gamecube had multiple games that people like, being the number 1 game doesn't make you a Melee machine just like no one says Final Fantasy VII machine. Goldeneye 007 The Nintendo 64 almost had no games for almost a year. Super Mario 64 was almost going 1:1 with the console. It was the Super Mario 64 machine. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
LeonhartFour posted... From: LinkMarioSamus | #098 This is more of a knock against Brawl than it is against Melee, which is more "serious" and feels more nostalgia-packed. No kidding Melee has more nostalgia. It's 7 years older. But LOL at either game being "serious." I was talking about nostalgia for titles like Super Metroid, Mario 64, and A Link to the Past. Brawl, on the other hand, focuses on Zero Mission, Mario Sunshine, and Twilight Princess, to name some examples. Lol. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft: Brood War |
Would it be fair to say that the Wii is a "Brawl machine?" Because according to My Games, it's currently the most played game on the site! --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
Being
from the "winning system" is probably the biggest criteria for me.
It's easy to be a big fish in a small pond. For similar reasons I
wouldn't easily call Halo GotD. Sales and critical reception factor in
too, but Melee has both of those (Halo probably beats it on these,
though). But yeah, pretty much gotta be a PS2 game way I see it. Or a multiplatform game. If you want 5 games that are better choices give me FFX, RE4, GTA: San Andreas, Halo, and Kingdom Hearts as better picks. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
I'm
just saying, Wind Waker is as rooted in the 90s as Majora's Mask is in
terms of design. The only difference is that WW was made for a more
powerful console, so it has better visual quality. All of those games
have lived in OoT's shadow because they're all based on the formula it
established. --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
LinkMarioSamus posted... I was talking about nostalgia for titles like Super Metroid, Mario 64, and A Link to the Past. Brawl, on the other hand, focuses on Zero Mission, Mario Sunshine, and Twilight Princess, to name some examples. Lol. http://www.abload.de/img/0010_dht6.gif --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
Would it be fair to say that the Wii is a "Brawl machine?" Nope, at no point was the game going solo during the console life. I guess I should specify that I don't consider N64 a SM64 machine now because other games came up to help carry the load, but it was one in the early life. Because according to My Games, it's currently the most played game on the site! lol My Games Stats --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
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ZFS posted... I think the 00s were a lot better than the 90s, too, but Brawl winning doesn't reinforce that point any better than MM, in my mind. It's not like Zelda in the past decade has made much progress from the late 90s. Do you think Wind Waker would be better? Tough question. It's a (perceived) inferior game, but then it's a legit 2000s title as well. I'm really not sure either way on that one. Suffice to say I think they're both bad winners but for different reasons. One of my gripes with MM winning is the fact that it's not even regarded as the best game in its series - neither among the fanbase (I think, anyway, if anyone can prove me wrong on that go for it) or critically - so I think that would carry over to WW as well. LeonhartFour posted... "MM shouldn't be GOTD because it's just leftovers from the '90s" is also 100% opinion it's merely your reasoning for saying it shouldn't be GOTD. "Brawl shouldn't be GOTD because it's a game with a very mixed reception from its own fanbase and about half of its own fanbase doesn't even think it's the best game in its own series" is also "based in fact" while still being 100% opinion. But this argument is silly. Yeah, it's become a bit semantical now. But no, MM being a 90s carryover is fact. It was released in Japan in April 2000, so it was pretty much entirely developed in the 90s. It uses an upgraded version of a 90s engine, and even the UPGRADES happened in the 90s!* As for Brawl, those facts you bring up are also opinions. Do you get what I mean? The facts you provide in favour of Brawl not being a legit GotD uses a sample of fan opinion, but that's all the contest was anyway! --- *I don't know for sure, but I presume when you get to the last three-four months of development the game engine of all things is complete, ri |
Lopen posted... Being from the "winning system" is probably the biggest criteria for me. It's easy to be a big fish in a small pond. For similar reasons I wouldn't easily call Halo GotD. Sales and critical reception factor in too, but Melee has both of those (Halo probably beats it on these, though). But yeah, pretty much gotta be a PS2 game way I see it. Or a multiplatform game. If you want 5 games that are better choices give me FFX, RE4, GTA: San Andreas, Halo, and Kingdom Hearts as better picks. I like this reasoning. So it needs to stand out ahead of its competition on the biggest stage to be considered the best? I can get on board with that, actually. Even if it means accepting FFX as a GotD contender (f*** FF) (f*** FF AUGH) --- http://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/6.gif |
You could give it to RE4/GTA: San Andreas --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
I'd honestly probably pick San Andreas as GotD if I had to try and pick one objectively. Just for the record. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
FFX the best game there, and I wouldn't put it in the top 10 for the decade, probably! --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
I would give it to San Andreas, but this is RPGFAQs. |
FFX is the GOTD because it's my favorite game from the last decade. Yeah, let's go with that. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
Yesss San Andreas love up in this stats topic. Phenomenal game. Unfortunately it lost to Golden Sun in one of the worst results ever. EEVVEERRR --- http://i45.tinypic.com/2jdhsno.gif Dr. Football |
f*** Golden Sun --- http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4150 29/11/2010. Never forget. Never forgive. |
Unfortunately my personal GotD is DMC3 so I can't really use that approach --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
People
whining about Brawl is so stale and boring. No, it's not a GotD
candidate, but neither is Melee and you're insane for thinking Melee
would have won in its place. MM won not because Brawl was antivoted but
because it shares the same fanbase as the strongest game on the site,
reduced somewhat due to being the second installment, and it was put up
in a classic Nintendo vs. Square match that got every visitor to the
site jonesin' for its victory. The rallied momentum it got gave it a
comfortable win, but even if you discount its first, bandwagoned hour,
MM wins by like 100 votes against Brawl. Additionally, saying it's a
game of the 90s and such is all well and good, but it's also missing the
point. The real thing you want to say about it is that MM is the Wish
You Were Here to OoT's Dark Side of the Moon. A very, very sizeable
number of people like that album best out all Pink Floyd albums, same
way a ton of people adore MM's introspectiveness over OoT's bombast and
glow. It's strong, and with the two juggernaught games out as well as
RBY and SM64 (probably the only two games on the Brawl/FFX/MM ballpark
or above) NITT, it cruised to its deserved win. PS: Also, I don't think MM is a GotD either...but it's close. I'd probably pick Persona 4 or Baldur's Gate II over it, but you can't deny how much effort and love was put into it. There's a reason it's as strong as it is in the absence of SFF. --- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 |
Civ IV, SFIV, Okami, UC2, SOTC -- good decade. --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
ZFS posted... Civ IV, SFIV, Okami, UC2, SOTC -- good decade. Man, those are like, third-tier titles among all the stuff in GotD and they're STILL all amazing and totally classic. Goes to show how awesome a decade it was. --- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 |
top tier in every way, except for gamefaqs contests! --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
From: ZFS | #126 Vanilla 4? Because Super and AE are so bad. |
ZFS posted... top tier in every way, except for gamefaqs contests! Not disagreeing with you HM. When I meant third-tier I meant "yeah these games are amazing, but there's two other groups that are even MORE amazing!". Sort of low-top tier if that makes any sense! --- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 |
Speaking objectively those are all terrible picks Speaking subjectively half of those are terrible picks. I'm glad you listed them best to worst --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Super
and AE are great, and I group them all under a "SFIV" umbrella, but if
you want to get technical, it would be only the original because the
others came out in 2010/11. --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
Being
from the "winning system" is probably the biggest criteria for me. It's
easy to be a big fish in a small pond. For similar reasons I wouldn't
easily call Halo GotD. Sales and critical reception factor in too, but
Melee has both of those (Halo probably beats it on these, though). But yeah, pretty much gotta be a PS2 game way I see it. Or a multiplatform game. If you want 5 games that are better choices give me FFX, RE4, GTA: San Andreas, Halo, and Kingdom Hearts as better picks. Wouldn't the winning system be the DS? You can "lol handhelds" all you want but it sold more and its biggest games have colossal sales numbers. I think this is silly logic though as among other things it means tossing out the N64 simply because its system didn't "win." Moreover, the difference in library quality among the PS2 generation systems was not that great, so segregating off the PS2 because it had more sales and a lot more mid-tier stuff seems inane. --- "The U.S. should detonate all its nukes on its own soil."-Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
Objectively
in what sense? In a contest sense, yeah. If it's in general, then you
need to specify what qualities a game needs to possess in order to be at
the top of the "game of the decade." --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
Critical
reception, fanbase reception, sales, stuff like that I imagine. I guess
if the game has, like, "juggernaut" status it's a GotD contender. So
Uncharted 2 is probably the best one of that list that is up there. I don't know, though, just guessing. --- XIIIiscool (2:47 am): *gets in a car* I'M F***ING COMING FOR YOU RUSTY RustyMrMokka has left the room. |
I already gave you my "objective criteria" Sales are what kill most of those picks, for the record. --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
What exactly is the critical mass for sales? --- "The U.S. should detonate all its nukes on its own soil."-Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
2m+ |
Being
on the PS2 is a poor criteria. It doesn't take into account a whole
host of other qualities, and acts as though games on other systems
aren't also in direct competition with something released on the PS2. I
don't agree with sales being a notable factor, but it's understandable.
Critical and consumer reception are a given. All things considered,
something like Call of Duty 4 has as much claim to the title as anything
from the PS2. --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
Not
sure, but SF4, Okami, and SotC only sold like a million which I'd say
isn't really enough. I'd say like "top 5-10%" or something. Not sure
what that is, but it's probably a few million. One million just
doesn't really stand out from the crowd much. Hell, I'm pretty sure DMC3 sold more than all of those games aside from UC2, that should be "enough said" --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
SF4 sold over 3 million copies. The other two, yeah -- SOTC sold over a million, but not so much with Okami. Nah, DMC3 only sold about 1.3 million copies. That's less than Civ IV, SF4, and UC2. It's pretty comparable to SOTC, which sold over a million, only without as much critical acclaim! --- Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. |
I'd say like "top 5-10%" or something. Not sure what that is, but it's probably a few million. Something like 200 PS2 games cleared a million. About 80 cleared 2 million. Interestingly, RE4 might fall short by this criteria. It only sold about 3 million worldwide between the PS2 and GCN (not sure about counting the Wii), which is less than 007 Agent Under Fire! --- "The U.S. should detonate all its nukes on its own soil."-Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
Wow you guys ran through part 1000 quickly. I didn't check for a few days and it was done. Great section though. |
That might have been the quickest stats topic during the offseason where all 500 posts were made during the offseason. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
And it was still boring. |
Wow Leonhart, did you really just pull that insult out of fourth grade? |
OUCH PNWT |
Worked then, still works now! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
I've got internet again! Just wanna quickly thank TheCodeisBosco and red sox for these two comments (respectively)... Yoblazer, Harrich, TRE - For being some of the straight-up coolest dudes here. Harrich- Fourpacks are fun- it's 3 matches for only 4 characters, and the variations aren't too complicated to consider, as they would be with larger packs. ...though I'll need to clarify red sox's comment with a shout-out of my own: MMXCalibur deserves credit for first starting the four-pack of fun. When he gave it up, I ran with it and even took it to the Rad Action Pack, where it lasted for a year or maybe two. I don't think he was ever into CS&D much, but he deserves a mention for that. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
