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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1001

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#51 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/27/2011 2:25:42 PM | message detail
That's just a 16 console bracket. I don't think SBAllen would ever do a bracket with just 16 entries in it. If you wanted to expand it to a 32 console bracket, here are 16 more consoles that will be in the bracket:

3DS
iPhone/iPod/iPad
N-Gage
Saturn
Virtual Boy
Turbo CD
NeoGeo
GameGear
TurboGrafx-16
Amiga
Sega Master System
Commodore 64
Atari 2600
Colecovision
Apple II
Intellivision
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#52 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 2:26:36 PM | message detail
And the reason is revealed why we don't want a console contest.
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#53 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/27/2011 2:30:47 PM | message detail
It might be our greatest contest ever in terms of trolling, mud slinging, and whining. I think a quick month of that would actually be pretty entertaining. That said, it's clear the SNES would steamroll such a contest and below that, nothing would have a shot at beating the NES/N64/PS1/PS2 outside of themselves. That said, there are some pretty compelling match-ups between those four consoles.
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#54 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/27/2011 2:35:48 PM | message detail
If the N64 could get anywhere near as strong as the SNES/PS2 I would be sad for this site.
#55 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/27/2011 2:37:00 PM | message detail
And the reason is revealed why we don't want a console contest.

What was the reason?
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#56 | SuperNiceDog | Posted 8/27/2011 2:44:12 PM | message detail
Bracket Predicting!

1) Playstation 2(obviously ~75%)
8) Gameboy

4) Xbox 360
5) Gamecube(~55%)

3) Wii(~57%)
6) DS

2) NES(~64%)
7) Dreamcast

1) Super Nintendo(~82%)
8) Xbox

4) Genesis
5) Playstation 3(~52% really tough match to call)

3) Nintendo 64(~81% maybe biggest blowout of the 1st round)
6) PSP

2) Playstation(~77%)
7) Game Boy Advance

2nd Round

1) Playstation 2(~59%)
5) GameCube

3) Wii
2) NES(~55%)

1) Super Nintendo(~65%)
5) Playstation 3

3) Nintendo 64(Likely the best match of the contest, NintendoFAQs upset I predict ~50.5%)
2) Playstation

Semis

1) Playstation 2(~57%)
2) NES

1) Super Nintendo(gonna be close ~52%)
3) Nintendo 64

Final

1) Playstation 2
1) Super Nintendo( NintendoFAQs~53%)
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#57 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 2:55:01 PM | message detail

From: -LusterSoldier- | #055
And the reason is revealed why we don't want a console contest.

What was the reason?


Over half of the bracket would be crap nobody cares about.

Honestly, if people really want this, the best thing to do would be a top 10 list a la 2005's Top 10 Games List.
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#58 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2011 3:02:48 PM | message detail
A console contest would be too much work for what it's worth
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#59 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/27/2011 3:04:54 PM | message detail
SNES vs. Colecovision, round 1. Who's ready for SNES to hit 98% and Colecovision to make Tanner look strong?
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#60 | pjbasis | Posted 8/27/2011 3:50:05 PM | message detail
I personally would rather see Brawl than FFX as GotD lol!

Thank god Zelda fans. Majora's Mask seriously was my favorite game in the bracket besides Chrono Cross, and guess what Chrono Cross left the bracket battling? Couldn't have asked for a better result.
#61 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2011 3:51:38 PM | message detail
Brawl is a joke.
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#62 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 3:51:49 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #060
Couldn't have asked for a better result.


I could've asked for about 20 better results.

Maybe more.
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#63 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/27/2011 3:52:14 PM | message detail
I still think that, in a perfect world, Plants vs. Zombies should be the GotD winner!
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#64 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/27/2011 3:53:40 PM | message detail
FFX is the GotD.
#65 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2011 4:06:54 PM | message detail | (edited)
Brawl should not be GotD, but it was better than a game of the 90s that was released in the 00s.
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#66 | pjbasis | Posted 8/27/2011 4:02:56 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: pjbasis | #060
Couldn't have asked for a better result.
I could've asked for about 20 better results.

Maybe more.


Reasonable results.

RE4 probably deserved it the most out of the Top 8. Or MGS2 if it made it instead of 3.
#67 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 4:03:39 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #066
RE4 probably deserved it the most out of the Top 8.


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#68 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2011 4:05:06 PM | message detail
mgs2 rightfully lost to shadow of the colossus
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#69 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2011 4:47:12 PM | message detail | (edited)
I still think MM winning was an awful move. It's a 90s runover game and generally regarded as OoT's inferior little brother (though obviously a lot of people prefer MM, but OoT is widely accepted to be better). It's basically GameFAQs saying "...yeah, this decade was cool and all but it doesn't touch the 90s".

Resident Evil 4 would have been the best winner. There's one or two games I like better, but RE4 has that legacy as a goat contender, pretty much every sane person likes it, and it's a genuine 00s game. Of course it would then lose to f***ing Final Fantasy whatever.

f*** Final Fantasy.

Brawl winning would have been fine, by the standards of this site anyway. If it was just my personal preference it wouldn't be anywhere near winning (though I like both it and Melee quite a lot), but you have to be realistic.
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#70 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 8/27/2011 4:52:00 PM | message detail
RE4 deserved to win, yeah.
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#71 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2011 4:53:23 PM | message detail
Brawl winning isn't any better than MM winning, if you have an issue with that. Nothing about Brawl is "this is a 00s game, the best of the entire decade."
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#72 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2011 5:06:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
ZFS posted...
Brawl winning isn't any better than MM winning, if you have an issue with that. Nothing about Brawl is "this is a 00s game, the best of the entire decade."

How isn't it? Brawl was developed in the 00s, the engine built in the 00s. Yes, it is the sequel to a 90s game and uses a lot of characters that originated in the 90s, but if you were to DQ every game guilty of that...well, I think it's clear that's lame.

I know a lot of people were disappointed (understatement >_>) by Brawl and disliked it. That's fair enough, I get it (kind of - I still think the core concept is so fun that it makes up for a lot of the problems people have with it), but it is without doubt a 00s game. MM is a spectre of the 90s, and it winning is basically GameFAQs saying "...no OOT? We'll just give the win to its little brother, then!"

MM winning a "best game ever" contest would be fine for me - it's certainly a less abhorrent winner than FF7 - but as a game of the decade? It kind of undermines the point of the contest. It'a a 90s game in every way except release date.
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#73 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 5:05:11 PM | message detail
It's got nothing to do with whether the game was made in the 2000s or not.

Brawl just isn't the game you look back on and say, "Yeah, that was the best game of the last ten years."

(Melee isn't either, by the way)
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#74 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/27/2011 5:05:53 PM | message detail
MM won because Brawl was there. If Melee had won that match, things in the rest of the contest go very differently.
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#75 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/27/2011 5:07:16 PM | message detail
(Melee isn't either, by the way)

Yeah, it is. Melee is a game that carried an entire system for 5-6 years. It's almost universally loved. Brawl doesn't even have close to the prestige Melee does.
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#76 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/27/2011 5:08:37 PM | message detail
It's basically GameFAQs saying "...yeah, this decade was cool and all but it doesn't touch the 90s".

That was the best result possible from that contest.
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#77 | Lopen | Posted 8/27/2011 5:09:56 PM | message detail
Well by that logic I guess Sonic the Hedgehog is the game of the decade because it carried a system, right?

The very fact that it was on the system that wasn't top dog makes it not GotD, imhhhho.
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#78 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 5:10:48 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #075
Melee is a game that carried an entire system for 5-6 years.


That's more of a criticism against the GameCube than something in Melee's favor.
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#79 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/27/2011 5:11:17 PM | message detail
I don't think there would be anything wrong with Sonic the Hedgehog being declared 'game of the 90s' or whatever, no.
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#80 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2011 5:12:22 PM | message detail
IMO Brawl was far more deserving of winning GotD than Ocarina was of tearing apart BGE2. And MM isn't much more deserving of GotD than Brawl is (Not that any of those three are completely undeserving, but I'm just not such a huge fan of any of them).

Counting personal bias, the winner of that contest should have been Melee, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Resident Evil 4, or Super Mario Galaxy. Especially one of the latter two.

Personal ranking of major Nintendo system titles from N64 onwards:

SMG2 > SMG1 > RE4 > LoZ: WW > SM64 > Metroid Prime > SSBM > LoZ: TP > SF64 > LoZ: MM > SSBB > LoZ: OoT > PoP: SoT > SSB > who cares
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#81 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 5:13:38 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #080
Counting personal bias, the winner of that contest should have been Melee, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Resident Evil 4, or Super Mario Galaxy. Especially one of the latter two.


In other words, all the games in the GOTD contest you've actually played.
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#82 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2011 5:13:56 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
It's got nothing to do with whether the game was made in the 2000s or not.

Brawl just isn't the game you look back on and say, "Yeah, that was the best game of the last ten years."

(Melee isn't either, by the way)


But that's just opinion. I see where you're coming from - I'm not as enamoured with the Smash series as a lot of people are on this board - but for everybody who thinks that there's somebody who has had more fun with Brawl than any other game this decade. It's immensely popular.

Someone could easily say the same about Resident Evil 4. They'd be a madman imo, but they could say it.

"Brawl just isn't something you look back on and say 'this is the GotD'" is a fair opinion to have, but that's all it is. MM is factually a game developed in the 90s, using an engine from the 90s, and is the consensus inferior little brother of Ocarina of Time.

Basically, what you're saying is completely opinion-driven: "SSBB should not be GotD, you don't look back on it and say 'wow'". What I'm saying is an opinion (because obviously a lot of people think MM is a fair winner, and that's fine) informed by fact: "MM is a bad GotD winner because it's just a spectre of the 90s."
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#83 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2011 5:14:41 PM | message detail
Melee didn't exactly carry the system. It may have been the most loved game on the system, but it wasn't pulling a Super Mario 64.
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#84 | Lopen | Posted 8/27/2011 5:14:44 PM | message detail
Sonic being game of the 90s isn't a terrible pick, just like Melee isn't a terrible pick, but there are probably at least 5 better candidates for both decades
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#85 | SubDeity | Posted 8/27/2011 5:15:50 PM | message detail
Sonic isn't even a candidate for game of the month in any month he released a game.
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#86 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 5:15:56 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #082
What I'm saying is an opinion (because obviously a lot of people think MM is a fair winner, and that's fine) informed by fact: "MM is a bad GotD winner because it's just a spectre of the 90s."


That's still completely opinion-driven as well, because it assumes you actually think this is problematic.
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#87 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2011 5:15:58 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
(Melee isn't either, by the way)

Yeah, it is. Melee is a game that carried an entire system for 5-6 years. It's almost universally loved. Brawl doesn't even have close to the prestige Melee does.


Actually Brawl was more successful, both critically and commercially, and most people who are fans of both games prefer Brawl (obviously I'm in the minority here). It's just that Brawl has a small but loud hate-base.

For me, Brawl easily beats the heart out of Melee in the one area most important in a fighting game: character cast. Brawl just falls flat everywhere else (except for soundtrack and singleplayer, and the latter still isn't all that good even if it is better than Melee's).
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#88 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/27/2011 5:16:04 PM | message detail
The GotD coming from a failed console is a joke. FFX is the only right winner. The GotD should have come from the console of the decade.
#89 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 8/27/2011 5:16:33 PM | message detail
N64 best console
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#90 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/27/2011 5:16:39 PM | message detail
Like what? Do you have a criteria other than your own personal opinion? Because Melee was probably the most enduringly popular game from the last decade. Off the top of my head, only maybe Halo has it beat.
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#91 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2011 5:17:24 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
That was the best result possible from that contest.

haha, fair enough. I'm a believer in "everything gets better", and I personally think the 00s smoke the 90s.

I'm just glad that's GameFAQs opinion only and not the consensus from the entire gaming world. Takes a dump on the amazing progress the industry has made in the last 10 years, imo.
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#92 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2011 5:18:20 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: LinkMarioSamus | #080
Counting personal bias, the winner of that contest should have been Melee, Metroid Prime, Wind Waker, Resident Evil 4, or Super Mario Galaxy. Especially one of the latter two.
In other words, all the games in the GOTD contest you've actually played.


I've played Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess, Brawl, and Sands of Time as well. I'm okay with MM winning the contest, but not particularly happy with the result.

Oh yeah, I forgot one in my list: Civilization IV.
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#93 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/27/2011 5:18:39 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #090
Do you have a criteria other than your own personal opinion?


Pretty sure that's what we're all going by when it comes down to it. It just depends on what you consider "important" for a game to be GOTD, and that's different things for different people.

From one person's perspective, Melee's a fine choice because it meets their criteria. For others, it's not.
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#94 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/27/2011 5:20:40 PM | message detail | (edited)
LeonhartFour posted...
That's still completely opinion-driven as well, because it assumes you actually think this is problematic.

It being a spectre of the 90s is a fact. The opinion is whether that fact is an issue. Like I said, I have no problem with people thinking that is not an issue.

Brawl being "not something you look back on as GotD" is 100% opinion.
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#95 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2011 5:20:27 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
red sox 777 posted...
That was the best result possible from that contest.

haha, fair enough. I'm a believer in "everything gets better", and I personally think the 00s smoke the 90s.

I'm just glad that's GameFAQs opinion only and not the consensus from the entire gaming world. Takes a dump on the amazing progress the industry has made in the last 10 years, imo.


Amazing progress which GameFAQs largely does not care for.

I'll reiterate: Brawl winning GotD would've been only about as bad as OoT winning BGE2. Hmmm...yeah, the latter happened, so I see no reason to be up in arms about Brawl.
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#96 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/27/2011 5:20:34 PM | message detail
A party game should not be GotD >_>
#97 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/27/2011 5:20:47 PM | message detail
Like what? Do you have a criteria other than your own personal opinion? Because Melee was probably the most enduringly popular game from the last decade. Off the top of my head, only maybe Halo has it beat.

Well at no point in its history would people call the Gamecube a Melee machine while there were times where other consoles were known as the Super Mario 64 machine and Halo machine.
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#98 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/27/2011 5:21:17 PM | message detail
GranzonEx posted...
A party game should not be GotD >_>

This is more of a knock against Brawl than it is against Melee, which is more "serious" and feels more nostalgia-packed.
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#99 | ZFS | Posted 8/27/2011 5:22:16 PM | message detail
I think the 00s were a lot better than the 90s, too, but Brawl winning doesn't reinforce that point any better than MM, in my mind. It's not like Zelda in the past decade has made much progress from the late 90s. Do you think Wind Waker would be better?
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#100 | KamikazePotato | Posted 8/27/2011 5:22:17 PM | message detail
Well at no point in its history would people call the Gamecube a Melee machine

Wrong.

as the Super Mario 64 machine

Goldeneye 007.
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