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#351 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/20/2011 11:48:07 AM | message detail
We've already seen that MMX has no chance of beating Mario or Link.

Anyone with a Nintendo background basically has a 0% chance to win as long as Link is in the bracket though.
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#352 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/21/2011 5:13:19 PM | message detail
Here's an attempt at odds for characters without Link:

Cloud 6:7
Snake 4:1
Mario 9:1
Samus 25:1
Crono 40:1
Megaman 60:1
Sonic 70:1
Sephiroth 100:1

The rest of the field 100:1
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#353 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/22/2011 11:25:22 AM | message detail
Character Preview Day 1 – Barret Wallace

Previous Contest Performance
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Analysis

Since it has been confirmed that we’re getting a contest this year and in an attempt to stir more discussion in the topic I’ve decided to take a more in-depth look at some of the characters that we may see in the future.

Barret Wallace from Final Fantasy VII was the winner of the Nomination Rally Tournament held in 2010. He also ended Pokemon’s three contest winning streak by defeating Squirtle. Barret is expected to have decent strength due to being a party member in Final Fantasy VII as the board slowly attempts to give every likeable member a chance in a contest setting.

Cid Highwind’s performance in the previous contest will likely be a starting point for bracket makers. Personally I feel that Barret Wallace and Red XIII for that matter would be stronger than Cid Highwind based on my experiences with the game, but at the same time I wouldn’t expect them to crush him in a match. Then again it seems that more people on the board would take Cid Highwind in a match, but the consensus seems to be that they’ll be at around the same tier in strength.

The main argument besides RacistFAQs for Barret being significantly weaker than Cid Highwind is the favourite Final Fantasy VII character poll where Barret was not only crushed by the more likeable cast, but he even lost to Yuffie. Ignoring that the poll was taken in 2002 Barret doesn’t exactly have the qualities to being a fan favourite. His moments in the game aren’t as memorable as some characters and his character design losses out to others. Just because you aren’t a fan favourite doesn’t mean you are weak. Barret may not be number one in the eyes of Final Fantasy VII fans, but he still is loved.

I feel that Barret will be a worthy winner in the Nomination Rally Tournament. Outside of characters from new games there are only a handful of characters that have never been in a contest that are above the fodder line. Hopefully he’ll have a better fate than Cid Highwind and be put in a more debatable match.
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#354 | KingButz | Posted 8/22/2011 11:25:40 AM | message detail
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#355 | pjbasis | Posted 8/22/2011 12:14:51 PM | message detail
Is it really confirmed we're having another one this year?
#356 | Oxbridge | Posted 8/22/2011 12:26:49 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Is it really confirmed we're having another one this year?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-sballin/60075477
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#357 | pjbasis | Posted 8/22/2011 12:27:32 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, I read that too.

Derp
#358 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/22/2011 2:29:40 PM | message detail
Barret shouldn't do nearly as bad as the only FF7-poll suggests and I think the guy is great, but I'll be impressed if he gives Cid a fight.
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#359 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/22/2011 5:31:05 PM | message detail
NEW GAMESPOT CONTEST

All Time Greatest Sidekick

http://www.gamespot.com/greatest-video-game-sidekick/vote/index.html
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#360 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/22/2011 6:01:47 PM | message detail
Strange idea for a GameSpot contest. I thought a games contest would be more likely to happen, because they already did heroes and villains.
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#361 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2011 6:09:25 PM | message detail
This contest is what will delay us from having a Character Battle.

Really.
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#362 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/22/2011 6:16:59 PM | message detail
GameSpot is doing a Vote-In phase again, like they've done for their past 2 contests. Their Vote-In phase allows you to vote for up to 64 characters, but I haven't heard of like half the characters they've picked out for the Vote-In phase. So I only used up 37 of my 64 votes.

Current top 10 characters (and their vote totals) in the voting:

Luigi - 718
Companion Cube - 687
Yoshi - 684
Miles - 652
Diddy Kong - 574
Garrus Vakarian - 571
Epona - 567
Toad - 538
Alyx Vance - 538
Cortana - 538

Epona is doing quite well on GameSpot by being in 7th place in the Vote-In.
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#363 | pjbasis | Posted 8/22/2011 6:24:11 PM | message detail
Yeah all the guys I voted for are going to make it safely into the top 64.

Hell all the ones I recognized are.
#364 | red sox 777 | Posted 8/22/2011 6:29:29 PM | message detail
Ugh, this contest looks super boring. I don't care about sidekicks, protagonists are where it's at.

Bring on the 2011 Gamefaqs (Fictional?) Character Battle, so we can watch Link crush another raft of characters.
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#365 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 8/22/2011 6:30:41 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #361
This contest is what will delay us from having a Character Battle.

Really.


didn't this happen for a past contest where SB confirmed that an ongoing Gamespot character battle didn't have to do with the GameFAQs one
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#366 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2011 6:32:39 PM | message detail
He might run nominations during the GameSpot Contest, but I doubt the two contests will run concurrently, probably because CBS wouldn't want that.
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#367 | Advokaiser | Posted 8/22/2011 6:38:17 PM | message detail
Well, I used 27 nominations only, so...
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#368 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/22/2011 6:39:50 PM | message detail | (edited)
GameSpot's contest will likely end before our contest starts. GameSpot has a habit of running multi-day matches and they run multiple matches at the same time. Apart from round 1 where GameSpot ran half of the matches at the same time, they ran all of the round 2 matches at the same time and the same applies for round 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Last year, the matches ran for a total of 3, 4, 5, or even 6 days depending on what round it was. The final match was 6 days, but the earlier rounds had either 3, 4, or 5 day matches.
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#369 | Emporer_Kazbar | Posted 8/22/2011 6:40:10 PM | message detail
I'm disappointed by the lack of write-ins
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#370 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2011 6:42:05 PM | message detail
Write-ins would get like 5 votes.
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#371 | Emporer_Kazbar | Posted 8/22/2011 6:44:05 PM | message detail
Not if we rallied like all hell.

Which I would.
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#372 | Advokaiser | Posted 8/22/2011 6:45:09 PM | message detail
write-ins?
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#373 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 8/22/2011 6:46:37 PM | message detail
Emporer_Kazbar posted...
Not if we rallied like all hell.

Which I would.


Are there even enough people on b8 to beat the last placer on that poll?
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#374 | Emporer_Kazbar | Posted 8/22/2011 6:47:24 PM | message detail

From: FateStayAlbion | #163
Emporer_Kazbar posted...
Not if we rallied like all hell.

Which I would.


Are there even enough people on b8 to beat the last placer on that poll?


Maybe not, but no one said I'd only rally on b8.
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#375 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/22/2011 6:58:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
Another GameSpot contest? LMAO

It seems like CNET is much more keen on supporting the GameSpot contests - they happen more often, and they receive a good deal more promotion to boot. I can't help but worry that, down the road, GameFAQs contests will be phased out entirely.
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#376 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2011 7:01:29 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #375
I can't help but worry that, down the road, GameFAQs contests will be phased out entirely.


The thought of this is vomit-inducing.

But they don't happen more often, actually. They've happened about this time for the last three years. We've had a GameFAQs Contest at least once per year, and we had two in 2010.
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#377 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 8/22/2011 7:04:12 PM | message detail
I just wish Gamespot contests would put the vote on the front page, making it much easier to vote. With how popular that site is, they might be able to draw 200-250k for a full day match.
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#378 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/22/2011 7:06:54 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #375
I can't help but worry that, down the road, GameFAQs contests will be phased out entirely.
The thought of this is vomit-inducing.

But they don't happen more often, actually. They've happened about this time for the last three years. We've had a GameFAQs Contest at least once per year, and we had two in 2010.


My bad! For some reason, I thought GameSpot's Hero contest was last year, and the Villains contest was earlier this year.

The GS contests undeniably get more promotion, though. The GameFAQs ones aren't promoted well at all, honestly.
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#379 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/22/2011 7:10:03 PM | message detail
The GS contests undeniably get more promotion, though. The GameFAQs ones aren't promoted well at all, honestly.

The GS contests receive more promotion, but the GameFAQs contests have the advantage of being easily visible on the homepage.
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#380 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/22/2011 8:03:11 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 8/22/2011 9:29:29 PM | message detail | quote
Ugh, this contest looks super boring. I don't care about sidekicks, protagonists are where it's at.


Of course, when you are getting bored waiting for another GameFAQs contest, you'll do anything to get relief from your "contest withdrawal" symptoms. And yes, I just compared a drug withdrawal (where you feel like crap) to a contest withdrawal.
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#381 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/22/2011 8:04:46 PM | message detail
I hate GameSpot contests because of how poorly they're run, and it makes me miss Character Battles even more.
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#382 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/22/2011 8:08:07 PM | message detail
The GS contests undeniably get more promotion, though. The GameFAQs ones aren't promoted well at all, honestly.

Outside of major rallies by Blizzard or Valve, not really. Just actually being on the front page draws in a lot more attention than the GameSpot contest gets.
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#383 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/22/2011 8:13:53 PM | message detail
My internet keeps crashing when I try to vote.

Imagine if GameSpot automatically put some characters into the contest. Imagine voting out of a field of the bottom 30.
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#384 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/22/2011 10:06:35 PM | message detail
GameSpot's been terrible with their contests, yeah.


I do enjoy seeing Epona have seventh place so far though, especially with all of these Nintendo characters. She's also beating Navi and Midna within her series (which are #17 and #23), so she's trying to make a statement with this...as best of one as a 64-way poll will allow, anyway.

Also loving Doc Louis's return!
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#385 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 8/23/2011 11:33:53 AM | message detail | (edited)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-sballin/60109712

So... while we all submit our ideas and do not at all encourage others to submit the same (yeah, right), what do we think will be the most common suggestion? B8's will probably be an all fictional video game character contest (could be wrong on that though!) but I think the site will push for an all entrant games contest.
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#386 | pjbasis | Posted 8/23/2011 11:33:13 AM | message detail
Oh snap didn't think of that.

GRAH
#387 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 8/23/2011 12:12:10 PM | message detail
Why would you think the site would push for an all-encompassing games contest?
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#388 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/23/2011 12:17:36 PM | message detail
If we're going to have a Games Contest, it should be no divisions by generations with FFVII and OoT removed.

I suggested the All-Fictional Character Battle, but I put a message there saying that he could limit it to characters who have appeared in video games before and limit their match pics to in-game renditions only.
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#389 | xp1337 | Posted 8/23/2011 12:23:30 PM | message detail
If we're going to have a Games Contest, it should be no divisions by generations with FFVII and OoT removed.

Pretty close to what I suggested, although I said I personally leaned towards letting OoT and FFVII stay, though I did imply it'd probably be more preferred by most if you took them out and had Winner v FFVII followed by that match's winner v OoT. (Almost suggested a ToC where we just kind of threw MM in as the 3rd entrant, but I don't think we should take MM out of this, unlike Sephiroth and the villains contest, MM is clearly not our solid #3 game.)

But really I was more focused on trying to explain that there's just no reason for division-by-generation, and tried to point to Game of the Decade where we had MM and FFX wiping out their "newer" competition, and pretty much going, LttP and SM64 v Fallout 3 and Brawl? what do you think is going to happen. The closer you get to the fodder line the bigger the advantage for newer games probably gets, but I think by the time you reach mid-card status the advantage is pretty much negated.
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#390 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/23/2011 12:26:03 PM | message detail | (edited)
Yeah, taking Majora's Mask out wouldn't really be a great idea, but regardless, it would be the first game the winner faced, so we could see what it's worth.

But since there's a chance that game MAY be LTTP, that would render it worthless as far as contest data is concerned.

Also, newer games comprise the largest chunk of the upper half of the x-stats in both contests (From PS2/GCN/Xbox gen on). It's just that there isn't one killer awesome game out of that group.
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#391 | pjbasis | Posted 8/23/2011 12:25:38 PM | message detail
Also no series limitations please!

FFVIII v FFX needs to happen.
#392 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/23/2011 12:41:05 PM | message detail
Also, at least Bacon reaffirmed that the contest will be happening THIS YEAR, even after the announcement of the GameSpot contest.
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#393 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/23/2011 12:50:53 PM | message detail
unlike Sephiroth and the villains contest, MM is clearly not our solid #3 game.)

Yeah, that GotD contest didn't have Link to the Past in it, which would have defeated MM easily. GotD also didn't have games like SMB, SMB3, Mario World, and Mario 64, which also have a chance to defeat MM in a match.
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#394 | xp1337 | Posted 8/23/2011 12:53:50 PM | message detail
Yeah, I know, I only toyed with the idea because I wasn't sure if Bacon would have found a ToC format more appealing than a pair of "exhibition" matches, I don't think there's any reason he should be opposed to them, but any little thing I think could help sway him I was going for.
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#395 | foxhead84 | Posted 8/23/2011 1:04:41 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/11-sballin/6010971.

Best Video Game Character Haircut?

LOL... probably Gamespot's next contest
#396 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2011 2:10:14 PM | message detail
A match between LoZ:LttP and LoZ:MM wouldn't provide the most foolproof information, sure, but I doubt there would be much SFF either. They're both quite strong yet there's not that much difference in strength, there's always been a divide in the fanbase about the transition from 2D to 3D, and LoZ:MM beat LoZ:LttP in IGN's LoZ-themed contest...there's not much of a chance LoZ:LttP suddenly causes some big anomaly there.
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#397 | Revenus | Posted 8/23/2011 2:33:31 PM | message detail
I haven't posted in this series of topics for a longass time, but quick question...is Clinkeroth still so strong on this board because the voterbase for the contests is aging in general without new blood to vote and therefore will vote ff7 chars out of nostalgia, or is that people who really love ff7/zelda also really love this contest.

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#398 | pjbasis | Posted 8/23/2011 2:34:31 PM | message detail
Let's not forget RBY, MGS, and FFVIII as games that could potentially beat MM.
#399 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/23/2011 3:17:42 PM | message detail
There's no "potentially" for RBY beating LoZ:MM; it already beat it, Perfect Dark, and Banjo-Kazooie combined:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3462
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#400 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 8/23/2011 3:58:26 PM | message detail
Well GameFAQs contests DO get far higher votals than Gamespot contests...
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