GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 999
I
would imagine this contest will run along a similar schedule as GOTD if
it's actually going to be finished before the year is out. Too bad that means we'll miss our "GOTY preview" poll if there's a contest in November unless he runs it early just to see. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
 
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Here's an obligatory "Huzzah!" for the contest-news. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
Poll glitch'd. First poll glitch in about 8 1/2 months now. Last poll glitch happened right near the beginning of this year. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I felt like breaking into a conversation on something that seems like a critical mystery that has been overlooked entirely. Do you guys think Metal Gear entrants are anti-voted nowadays? Aside from a few exceptions, they all disappointed last year. Let's investigate: Winter 2010 Contest Revolver Ocelot - Lost to a Pokemon character in a night match. Liquid Snake - Struggled to stay above 40% against the protagonist of a mixed-reception game. Big Boss - Tripled some random DS character, got 37% on Mario. The Boss - Upset Nathan Drake and got 47% on the Weighted Companion Cube, but then Luigi proved that that entire fourpack was weak as heck. Solid Snake - Struggled to break 70% on Protoman, struggled to double Fox, struggled to keep above 55% on Pikachu all in night matches, before turning around and putting monster performances on Final Fantasy characters (obviously it makes perfect sense that FF is an even bigger anti-vote target now) Fall 2010 Contest Metal Gear Solid 2 - Unexpectedly and without any warning decided to lose to something that was low midcarder/high fodder level going by the previous games contest. Metal Gear Solid 4 - Struggled to break 53% on a decade-old PC exclusive, was made to look weaker than MGS2 by said former fodder piece. Metal Gear Solid 3 - Can't double a mixed-reception Wii platformer according to the x-stats, almost lost to same former fodder piece, got slaughtered by Majora's Mask despite no warning according to the previous games contest The bottom line is that MGS has disappointed consistently against non-FF characters. --- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #304 No. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
No,
just because something disappoints, doesn't mean it's getting
anti-voted. The tell-tale sign for anti-voting is a really bad opening
vote. --- 90s games > 00s games |
I
don't think MGS is anti-voted - I just think it's fallen quite a bit.
Plus, in all fairness, I don't think people give Red and Proto Man
enough credit; they're not exactly scrubs, particularly the former.
Red's inclusion in the contest was a pretty big deal. --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Character Battle IX champion. Also, XxmonsterxX is a boss. |
I didn't realize people actually thought Snake's performances on Protoman and Fox were bad. Oh wait, it's just LMS. In fact, most of his "disappointment" arguments are dumb. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
And Ulti in his PCA. --- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War |
LeonhartFour posted... I didn't realize people actually thought Snake's performances on Protoman and Fox were bad. Oh wait, it's just LMS. There's also no way you could diss Big Boss based on those results! The dude did frickin' great. Really, the only MGS character that did poorly in the last contest was Liquid. I wouldn't be surprised if they've all fallen since then, though. --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Character Battle IX champion. Also, XxmonsterxX is a boss. |
Oh yeah, I forgot one. Raiden didn't even make the contest. --- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #311 That's what happens when you have to share a vote-in poll with The Boss. Looks like you "not getting it" isn't limited to my contests. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
Liquid
was kind of due after over-performing most of his contest career. But
yeah, everyone (sans Snake) MGS related seems to have taken a bit of a
dive as of recent. --- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) Yes, I know I'm never getting rid of this signature |
LMS has made posts like that for years. Although he did inspire my votal-stats. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Emporer_Kazbar posted... Liquid was kind of due after over-performing most of his contest career. But yeah, everyone (sans Snake) MGS related seems to have taken a bit of a dive as of recent. True, but 40% on Altair isn't even low-midcarder material! >_> --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Character Battle IX champion. Also, XxmonsterxX is a boss. |
Liquid never makes sense. He's as unstable as an actual liquid. --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
Man, I'm glad contest season is essentially upon us! I missed making fun of Liquid Choke. :P --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Character Battle IX champion. Also, XxmonsterxX is a boss. |
From: LeonhartFour | #136 This is probably the most accurate statement to define the guy. Big Boss performs based on picture, Ocelot never fails to disappoint, and Liquid bounces around from s*** to fit. --- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) Yes, I know I'm never getting rid of this signature |
And I want a new FFP. --- The official Big Eater of the Duodecim board. Nominate ExDeath for the next Character Battle. |
Yeah,
Liquid did really horribly. I have no idea what happened to him, after
he had such a strong 2008. And forget 2008- given the trajectories CT
and MGS have had since 2004, Liquid should be stronger than Frog now-
but based on last contest he's not. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Liquid's
performances make perfect sense. People mocking his bad performances
and underestimating him makes him angry and drives him to get more votes
next time. It's just like how him thinking he's the inferior clone
brings out his best against Solid Snake. Eventually he gets complacent
though, so it's a vicious cycle. |
There's no telling how a Frog/Liquid rematch would actually go. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
There's no telling how a Frog/Liquid rematch would actually go. But Liquid should win that. It was 50/50 in CT's best year and MGS's worst year. The fact that it's up in the air says bad things about Liquid. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Oh no doubt, no character seems to reflect his actual character in his contest performances quite like Liquid Snake. --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
From: red sox 777 | #323 Liquid hasn't actually been in an MGS game since then though, for what it's worth. --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
red sox 777 posted... There's no telling how a Frog/Liquid rematch would actually go. But Liquid should win that. It was 50/50 in CT's best year and MGS's worst year. The fact that it's up in the air says bad things about Liquid. We all pick Liquid to win it, predict 65-35 in advance, and on the day before the match Chrono Break is announced, a pic of a new, updated Frog surfaces (without the typical dumb designs Squeenix churns out these days), and he goes on to give Liquid an Ulti-style destruction, just for the sake of their contest hijinks. --- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/59835001 |
Y'know,
is it just me, or has Chrono Trigger been getting even more love and
acclaim than usual as of late? I honestly think it could be in for a
better contest year than people think. --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Character Battle IX champion. Also, XxmonsterxX is a boss. |
Y'know,
is it just me, or has Chrono Trigger been getting even more love and
acclaim than usual as of late? I honestly think it could be in for a
better contest year than people think. And the site has been getting older and older as votals have gone down. Crono > Mario BELIEVE. --- 90s games > 00s games |
red sox 777 posted... Y'know, is it just me, or has Chrono Trigger been getting even more love and acclaim than usual as of late? I honestly think it could be in for a better contest year than people think. And the site has been getting older and older as votals have gone down. Crono > Mario BELIEVE. I was never here for any of those classic Mario/Crono matches. sad face :( --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Character Battle IX champion. Also, XxmonsterxX is a boss. |
CT has had bad luck the past couple of years in getting matches that make it appear bad. 2009: SM64 got tripled by OOT in 2004, and we had no way of knowing it was the result of massive amounts of SFF. It turns out that SM64 is actually a top 5 game, but we didn't think that at the time, and getting upset always looks bad. 2010: Missingno is self-explanatory, I think. Frog and Magus also looked somewhat better once the opponents they lost to had other matches. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Y'know, is it just me, or has Chrono Trigger been getting even more love and acclaim than usual as of late? Might have something to do with the Virtual Console release. Who would still take Crono over Vincent 1-on-1? |
I'd take Crono over Vincent, though my faith in that pick weakens as time goes by. --- Will not remove this line of my signature until the Seahawks, Jazz or Rockies win a title (Started 5-16-09) http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kazbar/gfaqscontest |
My top 20 and how strong I believe them to be indirectly: Link 50% Cloud 46.5% Snake 44% Samus 43.5% Sephiroth 43% Mario 40.5% Crono 39.5% Megaman 38% Squall 37.5% Charizard 37% Megaman X 37% Vincent 36.5% Tifa 36.5% Auron 36% Sonic 35.5% Missingno ???% Bowser 34% Yoshi 33% Luigi 33% Ryu 32% --- 90s games > 00s games |
TheCodeisBosco posted... red sox 777 posted... Y'know, is it just me, or has Chrono Trigger been getting even more love and acclaim than usual as of late? I honestly think it could be in for a better contest year than people think. And the site has been getting older and older as votals have gone down. Crono > Mario BELIEVE. I was never here for any of those classic Mario/Crono matches. sad face :( Having missed 02 and 03, I caught their 2004 match and all the preceeding hype. Disappointing is an understatement --- "oh my god oh my god a spider just crawled INTO MY KEYBOARD" -pxlated "It just wants some web access." - Ness26 |
Emporer_Kazbar posted... I'd take Crono over Vincent, though my faith in that pick weakens as time goes by. This, though only because of post-SNES Square suddenly being such a huge anti-vote magnet now. --- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War |
It's
just weaker, we don't have to call it anti-voting. And FFVII has
always been the biggest anti-vote magnet there is (well, other than
stuff like Halo). --- 90s games > 00s games |
Tifa doesn't really seem to get anti-voted though, not like the rest of them do. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
If
Tifa gets put against any of the Square near-elites next contest, or
Sonic, I'm taking her. I fully expect the board to groupthink and pick
the other Square near-elite en masse, with over 80% of the guru picks.
But Tifa has shown us some really high good matches over the years since
2006, so I'm taking her. Also, Crono/Tifa scares me because Tifa's got a good chance of winning that through no fault of Crono, and if Crono loses, this board's reaction is going to be that CT collapsed again. --- 90s games > 00s games |
red sox 777 posted... My top 20 and how strong I believe them to be indirectly: Link 50% Cloud 46.5% Snake 44% Samus 43.5% Sephiroth 43% Mario 40.5% Crono 39.5% Megaman 38% Squall 37.5% Charizard 37% Megaman X 37% Vincent 36.5% Tifa 36.5% Auron 36% Sonic 35.5% Missingno ???% Bowser 34% Yoshi 33% Luigi 33% Ryu 32% I'm tempted to seriously object to Samus > Mario, but then again, when I think about it, Samus is a more "GameFAQs" type of character than Mario is, plus GameFAQs cares more for action-adventure games than for platformers. Not to mention Mario really only boosts when Nintendo itself boosts...wait, would the 3DS be able to catch fire like the DS did? --- Currently Playing - Mega Man 2 Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Brood War |
red sox 777 | Posted 8/20/2011 1:17:05 AM | message detail | quote And the site has been getting older and older as votals have gone down. Crono > Mario BELIEVE. I don't think the lower vote totals have been the result of the site getting older. We were still having polls get above 100000 votes even while the average age of this site was around 21 years old. This site had an average age of 21.54 at the time of this poll: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3864 Since that poll, there were 4 other polls to also break 100000 votes. Last poll to do that was on 6/7/2010, so the streak currently stands at 439 consecutive days without a poll (including contest matches) above 100000 votes. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Victory Odds according to me: Link 1:7 Cloud 19:1 Snake 24:1 Missingno 200:1 L-Block 250:1 Kerrigan 300:1 Charizard 300:1 Crono 360:1 Sephiroth 500:1 Ryu 600:1 Dante 600:1 Megaman 700:1 Megaman X 700:1 Mario 900:1 Gordon Freeman 1000:1 Samus 1500:1 Sonic 2000:1 Squall 2000:1 Auron 2200:1 Tifa 2400:1 Vincent 3000:1 The rest of the field 250:1 --- 90s games > 00s games |
Honestly, there's no need for victory odds as long as Link is in the field. There's no reason to bet on anyone else. We need victory odds for a Link-less bracket --- http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/8516/whatisdesiresig.gif |
Now for games......with OOT/FFVII removed: LTTP 3:1 RBY 4:1 SM64 5:1 CT 9:1 SSBM 15:1 SMW 18:1 SMB3 20:1 MM 30:1 FFX 40:1 Starcraft 50:1 Starcraft 2 70:1 SSBB 80:1 FO3 90:1 ME2 95:1 WOW 100:1 Rest of the field 30:1 --- 90s games > 00s games |
Brawl deserves better odds than either Starcraft game if you're only giving WoW 100:1 odds. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
I'd say Mario has a better chance at winning than Mega Man/X --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
I'm
being generous to Starcraft because they did recently rally Kerrigan to
a victory over on Gamespot. The potential WOW rallying has never
really materialized yet. --- 90s games > 00s games |
I really don't expect Starcraft 2 to be anywhere close to original, let alone beat WoW or Diablo 2. --- http://i54.tinypic.com/2qbudr7.gif http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I'd say Mario has a better chance at winning than Mega Man/X The only way I can see Mario winning is if someone like Cloud or Snake defeats Link, and then Mario defeats them, because his chances of beating Link directly are basically zero. Although I guess that's true for Megaman too, so you may be right. --- 90s games > 00s games |
That's pretty much my reasoning plus I would say Mario would have a better chance against Cloud/Snake than Mega Man/X --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
OOT
and FFVII probably have a 98%+ of winning the contest between them,
which is actually substantially more dominant than Link alone. --- 90s games > 00s games |
