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#451 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2011 7:53:39 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #448
TP > MM, though? What on earth? >_>
Twilight Princess underestimation ahoy.

If there's ever a Zelda game people underrate, it's that one.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4190

This is not out of Majora's Mask's range.


That was Brawl's first match after beating Melee, and so TP undoubtedly had plenty of help from Brawl anti-voters... and yet, it only got 47.25% of the vote there.

I'm not seeing anything particularly impressive there, in all honesty. All things considered, I'm not even convinced TP beats MGS or GoldenEye, let alone its older, GotD-winning brother.
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#452 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 7:54:49 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #451
That was Brawl's first match after beating Melee, and so TP undoubtedly had plenty of help from Brawl anti-voters


Guess who also undoubtedly had plenty of help from Brawl anti-voters.

It's just a matter of who had more help.
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#453 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2011 8:04:10 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #451
That was Brawl's first match after beating Melee, and so TP undoubtedly had plenty of help from Brawl anti-voters
Guess who also undoubtedly had plenty of help from Brawl anti-voters.

It's just a matter of who had more help.


That's true... but it's not like MM outperformed TP by a tiny margin. Frankly, that's not the case at all.

Also:

GranzonEx posted...
I would take FFX>CT right now.

You have balls of steel, dude! I mean, it could happen, but I wouldn't personally bet on it.
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#454 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2011 8:08:55 PM | message detail
Maybe not, but:

1) LoZ:MM won the GotD-contest over the game that beat LoZ:TP.
2) LoZ:MM outdid LoZ:TP in February's LoZ-console poll.
3) LoZ:MM beat LoZ:TP worse than SSBB did in IGN's LoZ-contest.

Furthermore, if you thought LoZ:MM got a special advantage in the GotD-contest by being a N64-game against a Wii-game, LoZ:TP isn't going to magically recover from that by not being the strongest game on the Wii. It doesn't hurt that LoZ:MM managed to be the oldest one-seed in the contest while LoZ:TP had to settle with a four-seed, either.

LoZ:TP can't be ruled out, but it's hard to be favored. LoZ:MM has earned the title of the #3 game in the LoZ-series until LoZ:TP shapes up.
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#455 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 8:10:19 PM | message detail | (edited)
2.75% honestly isn't THAT large of a margin, and it's not unreasonable to assume the margin is closer than that because MM got more help from anti-Brawl sentiment than TP did.

I'll just throw a few polls out here for comparison's sake:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4191
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4184
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4192

Who looks the best out of these three?

Then compare it to these:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3500
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3472

Just to be fair (and also proving the big margin for error in the first place because look at how close KH2 and TP got):

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3491

But the point is that there's probably not a huge amount of difference between MGS3, RE4, and KH2, and those are some fairly similar performances.

Majora's Mask isn't a lock to beat Twilight Princess. Favorite? Sure, it's earned that.

But I wouldn't rule TP out so quickly.
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#456 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 8:10:38 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #454
3) LoZ:MM beat LoZ:TP worse than SSBB did in IGN's LoZ-contest.


Didn't MM beat LTTP there, too, or am I misremembering?
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#457 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/24/2011 8:13:55 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #453
You have balls of steel, dude! I mean, it could happen, but I wouldn't personally bet on it.


I just think non-Mario SNES games' time has passed. I don't think CT still has that much power. Crono lost to Missingno. Joke or not that doesn't look good.
#458 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2011 8:31:18 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
From: HaRRicH | #454
3) LoZ:MM beat LoZ:TP worse than SSBB did in IGN's LoZ-contest.
Didn't MM beat LTTP there, too, or am I misremembering?


It did, and it's hard to hate on that achievement.
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#459 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2011 8:31:19 PM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
2) LoZ:MM outdid LoZ:TP in February's LoZ-console poll.

Whoa, I forgot about this. MM beating TP despite OoT being in the same poll... that definitely looks really great for MM.

LeonhartFour posted...
Majora's Mask isn't a lock to beat Twilight Princess. Favorite? Sure, it's earned that.

But I wouldn't rule TP out so quickly.


Honestly man, I probably don't give TP enough credit. I think the amount of hate it gets from hardcore gamers tends to cloud my judgment regarding its contest strength.

I kind of feel like people don't give MM enough credit, though! I mean, its GotD victory wasn't an L Block-level fluke or anything. People all over the web have grown to appreciate it a lot more, and it's a game released during GameFAQs' "Golden Age," so it has a solid nostalgia pull.

GranzonEx posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #453
You have balls of steel, dude! I mean, it could happen, but I wouldn't personally bet on it.
I just think non-Mario SNES games' time has passed.


C'mon, man! You know PilotWings is gonna stomp all over OoT in the next Games Contest! :P
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#460 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 8:33:04 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #458
It did, and it's hard to hate on that achievement.


It is.

But the margin was relatively similar to how MM did on TP, right?
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#461 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/24/2011 8:33:47 PM | message detail

From: TheCodeisBosco | #459
C'mon, man! You know PilotWings is gonna stomp all over OoT in the next Games Contest! :P


It got a boost!
#462 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2011 8:35:06 PM | message detail
GranzonEx posted...
From: TheCodeisBosco | #459
C'mon, man! You know PilotWings is gonna stomp all over OoT in the next Games Contest! :P
It got a boost!


LMAO

I want to play PilotWings Resort so bad. Would I be insane for spending $170 on a system, just to try a game that most people didn't care for? :P
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#463 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/24/2011 8:36:56 PM | message detail
I would personally buy a system for one game, but with the 3DS I would wait for the Lite version.
#464 | HaRRicH | Posted 8/24/2011 8:43:52 PM | message detail
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/IGN_2011_Greatest_Legend_of_Zelda_Tournament

Majora's Mask - 36296 [89.44%]
Four Swords Adventures - 4285 [10.56%]

Link to the Past - 14375 [49.05%]
Majora's Mask - 14934 [50.95%]

Majora's Mask - 14739 [53.29%]
Twilight Princess - 12917 [46.71%]

Ocarina of Time - 24563 [59.68%]
Majora's Mask - 16598 [40.32%]


It had a great run with 27,000+ votes in each match. IGN doesn't necessarily mean much for GameFAQs, but it doesn't hurt to see it happen at another popular video game site's tournament specifically looking for the best LoZ-game, either.
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#465 | foxhead84 | Posted 8/24/2011 8:44:10 PM | message detail
So what do you guys want to see more:
A character battle or a game contest.

I thought that with the GotD, next contest would have been a character battle but with all the talk about the top 10 game from the last 3 pages, I'm not sure no more...
#466 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 8:44:44 PM | message detail
Yeah, Majora's Mask is definitely overpowered there compared to here looking at that result on OoT. That would never happen here.

Or maybe OoT is underpowered.
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#467 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 8:45:28 PM | message detail

From: foxhead84 | #465
So what do you guys want to see more:
A character battle or a game contest.

I thought that with the GotD, next contest would have been a character battle but with all the talk about the top 10 game from the last 3 pages, I'm not sure no more...


I would rather see a Character Battle, personally, but I wouldn't mind a Games Contest as long as it was no-FFVII-no-OoT and no divisions by era.
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#468 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 8/24/2011 8:47:05 PM | message detail
GranzonEx posted...
I would personally buy a system for one game, but with the 3DS I would wait for the Lite version.

I have waited this long to buy one - I might as well wait for the revision!
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#469 | Advokaiser | Posted 8/24/2011 8:51:01 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Final Fantasy VI is too high, SMW/SMB3 are too low. I think they should be in just about the exact opposite places, with the Marios possibly being even higher and FFVI if anything being lower.

You people are underrating FFVI's power because it hasn't been tested properly, as opposed to FFX. Based on the following polls (and the calculations I did on them) I can say that FFVI would probably beat FFX with a margin of maybe 2-4%. Here's in-depth analysis for anyone that's interested:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3503

This poll contains 2 Square games and 2 Nintendo games (a.k.a. no LFF involved). If we end up cutting out ALttP and Mario 64 from the poll, we would end up having:

FFVI and FFVII: 53.91% = 100% (In other words, those 2 games represent the 53.91% of the entire poll, which turns into 100% if we turn it into a direct match.)

Based on this, if both games combined equals 53.91%, then that's our 100%. If we compare them directly, we end up having:

FFVI on FFVII: 25.69% / 74.30% (25.69 + 74.30 = 99.99%)

FFVII wins over FFVI by 74.30%


And now:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3508

Another poll that contains 2 Square games and 2 Nintendo games (a.k.a. no LFF involved). Again, if we end up cutting out OoT and ALttP, we would end up having:

FFX and FFVII: 47.77 = 100%

So, if we compare them directly, we end up having:

FFX on FFVII: 23.06% / 76.93% (23.06 + 76.93 = 99.99%)

FFVII wins over FFVI by 76.93%


Besides, it's been proven a couple of times more indirectly through polls that, even through SFF, FFVI is beating FFX:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=763
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1443
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#470 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 8:57:08 PM | message detail
The finals of that contest are a bad example to use because that match was FFVII vs. OoT and everybody knew it. Only the hardcore FFX and LTTP fans stuck with them.
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#471 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/24/2011 9:00:42 PM | message detail | (edited)
No FF other than 7 and *maybe* 8 can beat X.

All those numbers are meaningless.

And those last 2 polls are so old they are irrelevant by now.
#472 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2011 9:03:17 PM | message detail
FFVI > FFX was a possiblity back in 2004, but its performance in the last contest wasn't the greatest.
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#473 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 9:04:26 PM | message detail
I think FFVI can still win, but I don't think I'd consider it the favorite anymore.

Most games from the SNES era seemed to show some decline in the last Games Contest, even if it wasn't much.
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#474 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 8/24/2011 9:05:19 PM | message detail
Actually, in such a contest, it would be fairly high since only the last two rounds are 24 hours as it stands right now. If Bacon pushed it back a round or two, then maybe.

If the 24 hour matches can be pushed back to the quarterfinals, that would be even better. It would extend the contest by 2 days to create a 67 day contest. If it was pushed back even farther to the division finals, the contest would be extended by another 4 days.
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#475 | GranzonEx | Posted 8/24/2011 9:06:35 PM | message detail
#476 | Advokaiser | Posted 8/24/2011 9:19:42 PM | message detail | (edited)
Bottom line: I'd say: FFVII > FFVI =/= FFX > FFVIII > FFIX > FFIV (for the main [and powerful] Final Fantasies)
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#477 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2011 9:27:21 PM | message detail
7 > 10 > 6 > 8 > 9 > 12 > 4 > 1 > 5 > 11 > 3 > 2
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#478 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:29:55 PM | message detail
GranzonEx posted...
No FF other than 7 and *maybe* 8 can beat X.

All those numbers are meaningless.

And those last 2 polls are so old they are irrelevant by now.


This so much.

I'd be floored if VI even had a chance against IX.
#479 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 9:31:05 PM | message detail
#480 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:31:36 PM | message detail
GranzonEx posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=762
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1178


lol at VI's decline.

And you guys KNOW that VIII is gonna be the one that's hurt the most by VII.
#481 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2011 9:32:16 PM | message detail
Not sure, probably between 9 and 12.
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#482 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:34:25 PM | message detail
And jeez, FFIII is that high? I wonder how many votes of those were VI's.
#483 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/24/2011 9:43:49 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Where would you rank XIII, char?

Pretty high imhooo
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#484 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 8/24/2011 9:49:08 PM | message detail
How do people think FFT stands up nowadays?
#485 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 9:49:43 PM | message detail
Oh wow, I didn't realize that it's almost time for topic 1000.
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#486 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:50:13 PM | message detail
Didn't Ulti have some kind of suprise for everyone?
#487 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/24/2011 9:50:21 PM | message detail
How many people legit know FFT exists in this day and age?

Not to be dense or anything, just seems like one of those titles that might fade into obscurity a bit. Maybe.
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#488 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:51:19 PM | message detail
It has a DS sequel, and a remake on the PSP.

It's not forgotten. I'd say around FFVI level.
#489 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 9:52:03 PM | message detail
It's definitely not FFVI level.

It got pounded pretty bad in the Games Contest, and Ramza has looked terrible the last couple contests.

It'd probably be closer to FFXII level, honestly.
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#490 | XIII_rocks | Posted 8/24/2011 9:52:07 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
It has a DS sequel, and a remake on the PSP.

It's not forgotten. I'd say around FFVI level.


Hmm, yeah

I forgot about the remake
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#491 | charmander6000 | Posted 8/24/2011 9:53:39 PM | message detail
I can't believe we've made it to 1000.
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#492 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 8/24/2011 9:55:25 PM | message detail
Half a million freakin posts. Pop the cork, boyos. Been a fun decade.
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#493 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 9:55:59 PM | message detail
Time for Bacon to pop into topic 1000 and announce he's letting us help him make the bracket...!
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#494 | xp1337 | Posted 8/24/2011 9:57:01 PM | message detail
Time for Bacon to pop into topic 1000 and announce he's letting us help him make the bracket...!

With a catch, if we accept, it must be a 4-way female villains contest.
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#495 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 8/24/2011 9:57:02 PM | message detail
Probably a bit more than half a million if you included purged stats topics. I wonder how long the next half million will take.
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#496 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:57:04 PM | message detail
Glad I joined in time for this epic moment.
#497 | pjbasis | Posted 8/24/2011 9:57:24 PM | message detail
Less than 10 years I should hope.
#498 | LeonhartFour | Posted 8/24/2011 9:57:36 PM | message detail

From: xp1337 | #494
Time for Bacon to pop into topic 1000 and announce he's letting us help him make the bracket...!

With a catch, if we accept, it must be a 4-way female villains contest.


...I'll take it.
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#499 | neonreaper888 | Posted 8/24/2011 9:57:43 PM | message detail
bump
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