GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 998
From: smitelf | #400 We used to use this logic for why Magus would beat Crono back in the day, too. "When you ask someone who their favorite character from Chrono Trigger is, how often will the answer be 'Crono'?" --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
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We used to use this logic for why Magus would beat Crono back in the day, too. "When you ask someone who their favorite character from Chrono Trigger, how often will the answer be 'Crono'?" Sure, there's a counterexample for every argument in these contests, given they've been going on for nearly ten years. We could make a list of "Chrono and Magus are different from Harry and <insert character here> because", but comparing characters from an SNES RPG to characters from the most popular fictional series ever is already a typical stats topic stretch. Not slamming you for making the comparison here, but rather pointing out that points of reference are weak on any side for untried characters, let alone untried characters that aren't even from video games. Personally, if I were to make the bet, I'd suppose Harry to be the most popular character from his series purely because he's the titular character and not strongly disliked by any significant faction of the fanbase. But that's far from a "would definitely" perform better as per LOLContests. We have even less useful evidence to go on than usual. Plus, "would definitely"s take all the fun out of speculation. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
To
be fair, I know virtually nothing about Harry Potter whatsoever, so I
really have no room for speculation. I'm just saying we've seen several
instances where we think the "fan favorite" will outperform the main
character, but 9 times out of 10, the smart money's on the main
character. But that's boring, I know, so whatever. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
"When you ask someone who their favorite character from Chrono Trigger is, how often will the answer be 'Crono'?" I think nowadays, Crono would actually be the runaway winner for that. Even back then......I think Crono fans were just......silent more than anything else. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Yep, smart money's on Harry. Come to think of it (you guys have likely discussed this before, oh well), I wonder how much fandoms outside of video games would actually care about a GameFAQs poll. My experience is that a good chunk of people wasting their time on a message board will bother to click a couple of buttons just about anywhere when prompted, so it likely wouldn't matter where the fandom comes from. Would love to see some enormous, devoted fandoms duel, e.g. Harry vs Vader. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
Fan favorites =/= most popular character People voting in these things aren't just fans you know. The larger the sample, the more likely the character that is most known is going to win. Even then, most people like main characters anyway. |
I
think there isn't really a standout fan favorite in Harry Potter, which
is usually necessary for a character to challenge a main. --- 90s games > 00s games |
I'm
pretty sure Auron > Tidus (and probably Balthier > Vaan) are the
only examples of fan-favorites doing better than the lead. --- Xbox Live: Mach Tornado PSN: HeyGuysItsGhoul |
From: Big Bob | #409 Vivi > Zidane, too. Kefka > Whoever from FFVI, if you want to count that, although after Dissidia, Terra looks like she's closed the gap a decent bit. So basically just FF games. There are probably a few MK characters who are more popular than Liu Kang, too, I guess. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Fan favorites =/= most popular character No, really? I've only been here since 2002, so I have no idea how these things work. People voting in these things aren't just fans you know. The larger the sample, the more likely the character that is most known is going to win. Even then, most people like main characters anyway. The Harry Potter series is, I believe, the bestselling fiction series in the history of the planet, not to mention one of the biggest movie franchises. There aren't a whole lot of people out there who don't know who Hermione is just because she isn't the titular character. Every significant character in this series is massively more well known than 95%+ of all video game characters. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
This is a gamefaqs contest we're talking about right? I'm sure we're all into video game characters more than we are into Harry Potter. |
This is a gamefaqs contest we're talking about right? I'm sure we're all into video game characters more than we are into Harry Potter. Way to miss the point. Even leaving aside the outside rallying that would most likely take place, it's ridiculous to argue that any major Harry Potter character will be too obscure to be recognized by the majority of people here. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
Remembering
that ~10% of this site has never played a console Zelda and ~25% has
never beaten an FF, Harry Potter's numbers look quite impressive from
where I'm sitting. Only around 14% haven't seen a film, and only 8% more
have only seen one. Allow for the fact that a small percentage of
people will have read several books without seeing any films and that's
quite a high base to draw off. Star Wars should be higher, if anything. (Yes, I realise simply having an audience doesn't get you votes, but it's a start!) --- Praise the Black Turtle, Game of the Decade Guru Champ. (Well, I never promised creativity, did I?!) |
Well, obviously, you have to have something
to draw from, and Harry Potter at least has that much. Nearly 50% of
the site has either seen all the movies or at least plans to. Only about
20% just don't seem to care about it at all. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png |
I'm
personally amazed how high the % of people who watched these movies are
here. I'm not even sure if the Star Wars movies could do better. The Harry Potter series is, I believe, the bestselling fiction series in the history of the planet, not to mention one of the biggest movie franchises. There aren't a whole lot of people out there who don't know who Hermione is just because she isn't the titular character. Every significant character in this series is massively more well known than 95%+ of all video game characters. Outside of Harry Potter, I only know Hermoine because of her actress. I couldn't name you anymore characters outside the two from that famous spoiler, and that spoiler is only reason I know their names in the first place. I couldn't point them out if you gave me a picture of Harry Potter characters or anything --- http://i54.tinypic.com/2qbudr7.gif http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I wasn't arguing that they'd be too obscure... I don't get your point. Maybe we should bring up the favorite mario character poll. Yoshi was the fan favorite there! |
Harry Potter would be the strongest character from that series. I don't think there's much of an argument for the others. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Also
in support of Harry, I think that there will be a lot more "casual"
voters in an All-Character contest than in a VG Character contest, and
the people that only know the series casually from the movies or
something will probably overwhelmingly favor Harry. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
Darth Vader > Yoda > Luke Skywalker Any dissenters? |
I can't believe this is considered a debate. The shorthand name for the entire series is literally Harry Potter. --- If you are reading this signature, then you are wasting a great deal of your time. |
pjbasis posted... Darth Vader > Yoda > Luke Skywalker Any dissenters? Are you honestly putting Hermoine or whoever else at the same mainstream level as Darth Vader? --- http://i54.tinypic.com/2qbudr7.gif http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Vader would crush anyone from Harry Potter on this site, Harry included. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Han Solo > Yoda Well, there are those young kids who've only grown up on the prequels, poor things, so who knows. --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
I'm
inclined to pick Yoda over Han.....and not because of the prequels. I
know I'm in the minority on this, but I think Luke is a contender for
strongest character from Star Wars, with Vader, and no one else. I
think Luke draws a lot of emotional attachment, which is the most
important thing for a character, and he's a true hero, which is
important for reaching the upper echelons of strength. --- 90s games > 00s games |
I think Luke would be stronger than we think, too, but I don't know if Yoda would be as strong as people think though. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
Hi guys! Question- Based on past years,when is it expected to have an 2011 Summer contest? |
September at the earliest, as far as a start date is concerned, going by Bacon's patterns in years past. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Yoda
is far too mainstream to lose to Luke. His mannerisms and lines are
among the most memorable save for Vader, and then there's... Soul
Calibur IV. Han Solo would probably be number 4. |
I
would think that Luke is more favorite from those familiar with EU.
Watching the movies as a kid Han and even Leia came off as more likable
characters than Luke. |
Vader and Han are the only ones I could see actually doing something kinda big --- Want to listen to more video game music every day? Check out the VGMusicoftheDay Youtube Channel sometime! |
From: pjbasis | #430 Uhhhh, I would hesitate to argue Yoda is more mainstream than the MAIN CHARACTER OF THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY Seriously. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
There are plenty of main characters in works that aren't the most popular. Jack Sparrow definitely was not the main character of the original movie for example. Besides which, Yoda and Vader's roles span the entire series. Just asked my sister who hasn't watched the series the first character she thought of, and it was Luke. hmm. |
INTANGIBLES I'm sticking to my gut. |
KCF0107 "first character you think of" series could actually be useful for something if he does Star Wars --- Want to listen to more video game music every day? Check out the VGMusicoftheDay Youtube Channel sometime! |
From: pjbasis | #434 Depends on how you define "main character," I guess. I know Will was originally designed to be the main character, but I'd imagine that even before the rest of the movies came out, people would say Jack Sparrow was the central character of that movie. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
From: SuperAngelo128 | #436 1. Luke Skywalker - 22 2. Han Solo - 21 3. Chewbacca - 9 4. Darth Vader - 8 5. Obi-Wan Kenobi - 4 6. Yoda - 2 6. Admiral Ackbar - 2 6. R2-D2 - 2 9. Princess Leia - 1 9. Jar Jar Binks - 1 9. Revan - 1 9. Lando - 1 9. Boba Fett - 1 9. Jaden Korr - 1 --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png |
I
would love to see how well Darth Vader would do if he got an Anakin
picture. Bacon could throw him one in the second round or some other
time when he has a guaranteed win. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
It'd be Zero Suit Samus all over again. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Yeah but there's no way Han Solo defeats Darth Vader so boo to that. And usually the protagonist is the one that undergoes development. Saying Sparrow is the main character is like saying Yuna was. |
Those two statements are not connected. Obviously Yuna underwent development. But the main focus was on Tidus'. |
From: pjbasis | #441 Are you trying to say Jack Sparrow didn't undergo any development in the first movie? Although Sparrow was designed to be the equivalent of Auron/Obi-Wan Kenobi originally, if you want to go that route, the guy who guides the hero on his journey. Jack Sparrow is a pretty lousy guide though, and Will didn't exactly become the hero either. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
Will went from goody good poor blacksmith to "He's a Pirate." Sparrow's development was definitely in the latter movies when he became a more heroic guy. In the latest one he even grimaces at things like defeated foes being finished off. |
Sparrow
was always a good man in a sense, though he was reluctant to show it.
That was one of the big "lessons" from the first movie that Will
learned, that someone could be a pirate and a good man. When Jack
originally tells Will that his father was a pirate and a good man, Will
is obviously aghast at the thought that his father could've been a
pirate. Then at the end of the movie when they ask why he helped Jack, they're like, "But he's a pirate," and Will responds, "And a good man." Whoo, Jack Sparrow the best --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png |
Man it's been forever since I saw anything Pirates of the Caribbean. --- Currently Playing - StarCraft Hopefully Next Up - Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, Xenogears |
Vader would crush anyone from Harry Potter on this site, Harry included. This is what would get freaky about a character contest that includes characters originating in other mediums. I agree that Vader would crush anyone from Harry Potter if GameFAQs regular visitors were the only voters. But with rallying, large and/or dedicated fanbases that otherwise don't give a crap about games could turn the tides in any match. Completely new demographics open up once the "video game characters only" rule is removed. --- Official Queen ***** of the Universe! |
All that matters is that Captain Jack Sparrow would win the whole thing. --- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/26leonpngat.png |
Poll the entire world and Vader would still defeat Harry. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Jack Sparrow definitely wouldn't win the whole thing. |