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#351 | voltch | Posted 7/13/2011 7:27:44 PM | message detail
yeah, this has been a lackluster start, or maybe its been fantastic and I just couldn't see anything in this mass of grey shooters.

but looks like the second half will own at least!
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#352 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/13/2011 9:14:58 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 7/13/2011 9:04:15 PM | message detail | quote
I am also disappointed that OOT 3DS is not even close to winning this poll. But it proves yet again that Zelda fans are the farthest things from drones.


I was surprised that OoT 3D was actually beating Duke Nukem Forever in the June game poll, but this poll proves that Duke Nukem Forever was just flat out weak if OoT 3D is losing to Pokemon and Portal 2.

At least yesterday's poll proves that OoT 3D is significantly weaker than OoT (it would get less than 15% indirectly against the original OoT). No remake on this site will ever have the strength to compete with midcarder games.

FateStayAlbion | Posted 7/13/2011 12:16:48 AM | message detail | quote
Shows how badly this year in games are so far when "None of the above" is almost winning.

At least the 2nd half looks good


The 2nd half of the year tends to be better than the first half as most of the heavy hitters for the year are released in the final 3 months of the year (to take advantage of the Christmas shopping season). Last year was a rare exception to that rule, as the GotY winner was from the first quarter of the year.
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#353 | Big Bob | Posted 7/13/2011 9:40:01 PM | message detail
Would Bacon use Garcia F***ing Hotspur's full name (Shadows of the Damned) if we got him into a contest? Probably not, but it would be funny to try.
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#354 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/14/2011 1:46:53 AM | message detail
Well Ocarina 3D failed to double the sequel to one of the weakest games of the Game of the Decade field in that anticipation poll so yeah.

As for an idea as to how Ocarina 3D is faring on other sites, it was only #6 on GamesRadar's "Top 7 Games of 2011 So Far" feature, only beating out L.A. Noire. Here Ocarina 3D was #3 in the poll (not counting "None of the Above" obviously), but I'd honestly sooner place the blame on stuff like Dead Space 2 and The Witcher 2 (which were #2 and #3 on GamesRadar's list, respectively) not really being GameFAQs' cup of tea.

...wait a minute, how the heck is The Witcher series so weak here is Fable is so strong?
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#355 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2011 1:48:10 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #354
Fable is so strong?


So your inability to judge strength properly isn't limited to NCAA Games then.
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#356 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/14/2011 1:51:44 AM | message detail
Well the freaking x-stats make it look like that.
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#357 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 7/14/2011 2:27:26 AM | message detail
...wait a minute, how the heck is The Witcher series so weak here is Fable is so strong?

Not that Fable is strong in any way, but thats a pretty bad comparison. Witcher is aimed at hardcore WRPG gamers, while Fable is aimed at the casual
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#358 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/14/2011 9:09:08 AM | message detail
Fable wasn't that impressive though, roughly 40% against Batman, who got 41% against Fallout 3 doesn't make you special.

It'd have no problem against The Witcher though.
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#359 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/14/2011 9:20:34 AM | message detail
Well Fable finished in the top 50 in the Game of the Decade field, ahead of stuff like Call of Duty 4, GTA: Vice City, Halo 2, Grand Theft Auto IV, Perfect Dark, Skies of Arcadia, both post-classic Pokemon...
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#360 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2011 9:21:45 AM | message detail
There's a decent chance Brawl/Fallout 3 overrated that entire section of the bracket.

And 30% on Majora's Mask isn't good, no matter how you want to look at it.
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#361 | MoogleKupo141 | Posted 7/14/2011 9:25:00 AM | message detail
witcher is PC exclusive

we don't like computers
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#362 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/14/2011 9:25:29 AM | message detail
Well THAT's true, I suppose.
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#363 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/14/2011 9:27:12 AM | message detail
MoogleKupo141 posted...
witcher is PC exclusive

we don't like computers


Fable is exclusive to PC and original Xbox. Doesn't sound good for it.
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#364 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/14/2011 11:48:07 AM | message detail
LMS, not one of those games you mentioned were expected to be particularly strong. Fable lost to TF2 who lost hard to two of the games you just mentioned in the previous contest:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3475

Granted, TF2 was stronger than that poll suggests (and even stronger now since it recently became free to play; the characters may be fun to watch in the next contest), but Fable is no special entry. I'm not necessarily a fan of the idea that FO3/SSBB had something fishy going on, but the stats that came from those divisions (and stats in general) aren't meant to be taken at face value.


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#365 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2011 1:55:53 PM | message detail
He should, but he doesn't.
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#366 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 7/14/2011 6:19:21 PM | message detail
So uh, is GameSpot planning another summer contest or anything? I'll settle for anything here.
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#367 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2011 6:20:35 PM | message detail
A GameSpot contest would be salt in the wounds because nothing makes me miss a GameFAQs Contest by watching a terrible contest and realizing what might have been.
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#368 | red sox 777 | Posted 7/14/2011 6:23:17 PM | message detail
And 30% on Majora's Mask isn't good, no matter how you want to look at it.

I dunno about that. The way half this topic was looking at Majora's Mask (as an OOT proxy fueled by Zelda drones who can't distinguish between Zelda games), 30% would be pretty strong!
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#369 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2011 6:23:52 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #368
The way half this topic was looking at Majora's Mask (as an OOT proxy fueled by Zelda drones who can't distinguish between Zelda games), 30% would be pretty strong!


I'll take FFX getting 49.75% on OoT.

Works for me.
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#370 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/14/2011 8:42:05 PM | message detail
Works for me, too.

(I'd vote for FFX over OoT since I'm not such a huge fan of the latter, but I wouldn't vote for FFX over any other 3D Zelda)
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#371 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/14/2011 11:18:27 PM | message detail
We don't care what games you'd vote over OoT that you've never played.

Just play games.
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#372 | red sox 777 | Posted 7/15/2011 6:30:54 AM | message detail
Have you played OOT, LMS?
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#373 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2011 6:37:55 AM | message detail
Last time I played it was back in November.
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#374 | red sox 777 | Posted 7/15/2011 6:43:59 AM | message detail
Oh, well that's better- I thought you hadn't played OOT and had somehow decided it was lackluster. Though as you have played OOT, how is it possible that you don't like it!?! We need to call in MWC to straighten you out.

Well as someone who plays very few games, I'm happy to say that my votes are heavily influenced by the contests themselves. Many times this boils down to the simple question, which game/character makes Chrono Trigger look better?
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#375 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/15/2011 7:37:39 AM | message detail
GameFAQs was the reason why I played Chrono Trigger.

As for OoT, its main problem is that it is the consensus best game ever so when someone new plays it their expectations are too high.
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#376 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2011 7:51:29 AM | message detail | (edited)
red sox 777 posted...
Oh, well that's better- I thought you hadn't played OOT and had somehow decided it was lackluster. Though as you have played OOT, how is it possible that you don't like it!?! We need to call in MWC to straighten you out.

Well as someone who plays very few games, I'm happy to say that my votes are heavily influenced by the contests themselves. Many times this boils down to the simple question, which game/character makes Chrono Trigger look better?


Ocarina of Time is not a bad candidate for best game ever - it's just a bad consensus pick. Then again, I'm speaking as someone who prefers Super Mario Galaxy to any Zelda game and who would vote for the likes of Sarah Kerrigan and Captain Falcon over Link nowadays, forget about him winning my vote over Mario or Samus. Aside from Midna, the franchise's characters are generally pretty boring. Most of my issues with Ocarina of Time arise out of the fact that a lot of the game's biggest fans despise at least some later titles in the series which are all actually superior.

A Link to the Past > The Wind Waker > Twilight Princess > Majora's Mask > Ocarina of Time

And Chrono Trigger is my favorite game, so don't say that I can't appreciate the classics. It's just the N64 era I find overrated - Super Mario 64 and StarCraft are the only titles I've played from that timeframe that I regard to be at least decently deserving of all their high praise, though I suspect that at least Metal Gear Solid will join those two for me at least if Final Fantasy VII and Xenogears don't.

And there I go again, blurting out my opinions as if they're fact and even putting Ulti to shame in this department. Glorious.
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#377 | red sox 777 | Posted 7/15/2011 7:53:00 AM | message detail
You have similar taste to Leon, at least with Nintendo games. When you call games objectively superior or inferior, that grates on people.
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#378 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2011 7:56:39 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
GameFAQs was the reason why I played Chrono Trigger.

As for OoT, its main problem is that it is the consensus best game ever so when someone new plays it their expectations are too high.


What's ironic is that the first time I played Ocarina, it became my favorite game. Then I came back to it 1.5 years later, and I was thinking "what the heck happened?" I was all pumped up for a repeat playthrough of Ocarina of Time after playing at least FOUR games in a row that reminded me of it (Super Metroid, Super Mario 64, Metroid: Other M, Zelda: A Link to the Past), and coming off of a murderer's row of Nintendo classics (well, plus one rather large disappointment) only poured salt on the wounds.

In Leonhart's gaming threads I was trying to argue about Ocarina being much better than Twilight Princess, but then I thought about it, and for me, the opposite opinion is much easier for me to defend.
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#379 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2011 8:01:19 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
You have similar taste to Leon, at least with Nintendo games. When you call games objectively superior or inferior, that grates on people.

I can agree with this, save for a Metroid game being in my top 5 and another one almost cracking my top 10! Oh, and LttP being my favorite Zelda.

We both share SMB3, SMG1, and SMG2 in our personal top 10s, but that's really it, and the first one arguably doesn't count. Out of our top 5, we probably only really share SMG2.

...man, coming off of watching Flight 29 Down really put me in a drama mood somehow while typing this up.

I suppose you're definitely right on that last point, but I'm always irritated whenever Ulti says that the best 3D Zelda is the "death of Nintendo" or when The Real Truth considers Twilight Princess to be trash so I feel like lashing out like this. Truth be told, I did beat both Twilight Princess and The Wind Waker first before I beat Ocarina, but I used to prefer Ocarina over both of them. Now I don't, and I feel better that way.
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#380 | GranzonEx | Posted 7/15/2011 8:05:14 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #369
I'll take FFX getting 49.75% on OoT.

Works for me.


That works for me.
#381 | KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2011 8:29:21 AM | message detail
OoT is finally starting to show it's age. It's taken a while, but it's happening. People that play it these days for the first time are almost certainly going to be disappointed.
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#382 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2011 8:33:42 AM | message detail
Or second.

Yes, Ocarina of Time is finally beginning to show its age. Blame Twilight Princess for sapping a lot of its appeal.
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#383 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/15/2011 8:58:22 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/997842-the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time-3d

Not that newcomers will be unanimously satisfied or anything, but in general it looks to be doing well for a remake or even a game on its own.
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#384 | HaRRicH | Posted 7/15/2011 9:05:04 AM | message detail
As a side-thought, how strong does anybody think Super Mario 64 was in 2004? The only things that really came in its favor between then and 2009's contest was SM64DS launching with the DS and SM64 coming to the VC. If you think SM64's stronger in 2009 than 2004, then those two things are worthy suspects.

While LoZ:OoT's already been out for the VC, LoZ:OoT3D is a near-launch game for a system that still has a lot of growing to do...and it's sounded like this port was better-handled. Even if veterans think it's not much of an update and newcomers aren't as impressed with it as we once were, it's still got a great shot to improve LoZ:OoT's strength to an even more ridiculous strength.
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#385 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 7/15/2011 10:02:26 AM | message detail
Seeing how GameFAQs is basically a Zelda drone site by now, I have to wonder...how many major Board 8 users actually have a Zelda title in their personal top 5? I know I don't.
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#386 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/15/2011 12:19:33 PM | message detail
Mario in general is stronger now than it was back in 2004. Mario 3 dipping to Mario World's level and maybe both dipping below Mario 64 is just a result of them being so old now.
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#387 | pjbasis | Posted 7/15/2011 1:27:04 PM | message detail
Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are in my top two.
#388 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 7/15/2011 1:58:56 PM | message detail
As for OoT, its main problem is that it is the consensus best game ever so when someone new plays it their expectations are too high.

That was my problem. I never had an n64, so I didn't play it until that Master Quest disc on Gamecube.. and it was already 6-7 years old at that point, so it didn't have the "Freshness" a person who played it when it was new might have. And it was already being hailed as the greatest game of all time, so I couldn't help but critique everything, and came away disappointed. It was a good game, like 8/10, but hardly close to the greatest game ever. I probably would have enjoyed it a lot more if I went into it without those expectations
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#389 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/15/2011 2:50:53 PM | message detail
red sox 777 | Posted 7/15/2011 9:43:59 AM | message detail | quote
Well as someone who plays very few games, I'm happy to say that my votes are heavily influenced by the contests themselves. Many times this boils down to the simple question, which game/character makes Chrono Trigger look better?


I also play very few games, so my votes are also influenced by the contests (and my bracket too).


KamikazePotato | Posted 7/15/2011 11:29:21 AM | message detail | quote
OoT is finally starting to show it's age. It's taken a while, but it's happening. People that play it these days for the first time are almost certainly going to be disappointed.


OoT is one of those games I've never beaten yet. The only time I had to play it was when I needed to help out someone with a very small section of the game.
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#390 | neonreaper | Posted 7/15/2011 3:21:02 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Seeing how GameFAQs is basically a Zelda drone site by now, I have to wonder...how many major Board 8 users actually have a Zelda title in their personal top 5? I know I don't.

I might put the original LoZ there. Plenty of board 8ers would probably list OoT.
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#391 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/16/2011 9:07:32 PM | message detail
Should be interesting to get a decent idea of how popular Harry Potter is.

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#392 | foxhead84 | Posted 7/17/2011 11:50:56 AM | message detail
Harry Potter would be anti-voted as hell. It's character like HP that makes me fear a fictional character battle
#393 | smitelf | Posted 7/17/2011 12:15:36 PM | message detail
I'm not sure how useful this poll would be for gauging Harry's performance. It's the whole game vs character argument again, though Harry benefits from being "the" character associated with the series. But liking the books doesn't equate to watching the movies, and liking the books or the movies doesn't equate to caring too much about Harry as a character. He's got strong name recognition on his side, but the appeal of the Harry Potter books is the world and the story rather than Harry's strength as a character. He is a pretty stereotypical hero character minus his irritating teenage angst in book 5, and as a huge Harry Potter fan myself, I would vote against him without much distress.

I would actually interested to see whether Harry or Snape would perform better in a character contest here.
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#394 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 7/17/2011 12:20:52 PM | message detail
Get a nice pic of Emma Watson up there for Hermione and I bet she wouldn't do too badly. Well, she'd beat Harry at any rate.
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#395 | nintendogirl1 (Moderator) | Posted 7/17/2011 12:24:58 PM | message detail
Dumbledore is the top character here I think.
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#396 | LOLContests | Posted 7/17/2011 1:05:23 PM | message detail
Harry Potter would definitely be the most popular character from his series. He is not particularly hated within the series. He would get tons of anti-votes from people who don't like Harry Potter though.

I really like to think that Hermoine > Ron, but I fear that SexistFAQS might rear its ugly head in this regard.
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#397 | red sox 777 | Posted 7/17/2011 1:18:55 PM | message detail
What's sexist about this site? Samus is really strong, as is Tifa, etc. It's not this site's problem that the vast majority of video games have featured males in their most important roles.
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#398 | LOLContests | Posted 7/17/2011 1:21:47 PM | message detail
What's sexist about this site? Samus is really strong, as is Tifa, etc. It's not this site's problem that the vast majority of video games have featured males in their most important roles.

I wouldn't expect any site with a gender balance greater than 90/10 to not be biased when it comes to what characters they like!
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#399 | red sox 777 | Posted 7/17/2011 1:37:12 PM | message detail
Why not? Are you saying that men are naturally sexist, or that when they meet in environments that have a low percentage of women, they become sexist?
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#400 | smitelf | Posted 7/17/2011 6:48:58 PM | message detail
Harry Potter would definitely be the most popular character from his series. He is not particularly hated within the series. He would get tons of anti-votes from people who don't like Harry Potter though.

He is not particularly hated, but in later rounds it also matters if you are particularly loved. When you ask someone who their favorite character from the series is, how often will the answer be "Harry Potter"? That's why I think fan favorites could potentially do better. As for the anti-votes, I think that would easily be countered by rallying anyway.

Why not? Are you saying that men are naturally sexist, or that when they meet in environments that have a low percentage of women, they become sexist?

Yes.
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