GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 997
It's
worth noting that LoZ:OoT3D is coming up rather soon, so between that
and LoZ:MM impressing in our last contest...I mean, if we're going to
look for more LoZ-characters with strength, this is the contest to do
it. I'd rather see several LoZ-wildcards this next contest than one or
two progressively weaker characters each year like we do with FF7. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
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Eh,
I think Malon could be a midcarder. She's a bit of a fan-favorite, or
at least she was among people I knew. It shouldn't take that much
coming from OOT to have some strength. Master Chief.....why not? It
feels so right. --- 90s games > 00s games |
She's a bit of a fan-favorite, or at least she was among people I knew who are these people you know --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
People I knew who were OOT fans back in 1998-2000 or so. I thought it was representative of most OOT fans......I mean, among Saria, Malon, Ruto, and Nabooru, Malon was clearly the most popular. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Being the most popular among that group isn't a notable achievement. Do we really think Malon could beat Midna, for example? And Midna's low midcard at best. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Do we really think Malon could beat Midna, for example? And Midna's low midcard at best. *Imagines Malon losing to Midna* No, I have more faith in the Zelda fanbase than that. --- 90s games > 00s games |
So
you have faith in the Zelda fanbase voting for some unimportant farm
girl over an actually good and decently developed character? That says a lot about the Zelda fanbase. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Malon is a better character than Midna. Possibly because I actively dislike Midna. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Malon barely qualifies as a character. She'd essentially be a random NPC if she didn't teach you an ocarina song. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Come
on now. She's the 5th most developed character in the game, behind
Link, Zelda, Saria, and Ruto. (Yes she's a better character than that
worthless Ganondorf). --- 90s games > 00s games |
Forget Deku Tree and the OoT girls. Angry Moon is where it's at. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
Yes she's a better character than that worthless Ganondorf Well, who isn't? Come on now. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
And Darunia is more developed than Malon! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
She's the 5th most developed character in the game, behind Link, Zelda, Saria, and Ruto This says a lot about Ocarina of Time's characters - and why no one nominates them! --- Knowledge is the eye of desire and can become the pilot of the soul. |
And
it will be wonderful when one of them gets into the contest and upsets a
character with supposedly deep character development that the board
loves. Oh what a joyful day that will be! --- 90s games > 00s games |
maybe she'll beat magus --- Knowledge is the eye of desire and can become the pilot of the soul. |
I suppose they could probably beat Yuri Hyuga, yeah. Wouldn't set their ceiling too high though! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
I was thinking along the lines of Phoenix Wright, although that wouldn't really be an upset. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Come on now. She's the 5th most developed character in the game, behind Link, Zelda, Saria, and Ruto Whaaaat? I haven't really examined this in detail, but there's no way Saria beats Malon there. Also I'd be surprised if Link's boobs beat hers, but you never know. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
But
anyway, win or lose, OOT characters deserve a chance for how dominant
that game has been. The Legend of Zelda has won 9 out of 13 contests
now, and you don't want to give the light of day to more than 3 OOT
characters? While FFVII, which has lost every year since 2005, has
gotten how many characters in? If third tier OOT characters turn out to
be fodder or boring, they don't have to be brought back. But it will
be fun to see where they are, and the game deserves it. --- 90s games > 00s games |
OoT
characters would deserve it if it was a character-centric game. There's
a reason why that game can be the most popular game on the site and
only the big three have ever been in a contest from it. It's because nobody cares enough about anyone else to nominate them. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
If FFVII only had three relevant characters people wouldn't want to see more from that game either! --- Knowledge is the eye of desire and can become the pilot of the soul. |
Whaaaat?
I haven't really examined this in detail, but there's no way Saria
beats Malon there. Also I'd be surprised if Link's boobs beat hers, but
you never know. Well initially I was going to say that Malon was the 3rd most developed character in the game, after Link and Zelda, but after I thought about it, I think she actually has less character development than those other two. She's just so much more likable that she seems to be more important. --- 90s games > 00s games |
And if you want a FFVII equivalent, it's like nominating Don Corneo or Bugenhagen. It's just like 'why.' --- Knowledge is the eye of desire and can become the pilot of the soul. |
Malon, the Great Deku Tree, Saria, and Darunia would destroy Don Corneo or Bugenhagen. --- 90s games > 00s games |
I doubt it, but thankfully, we'll never have to find out! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Honestly, those matchups would be far more interesting than seeing more Tales characters in the contest. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Just because we can put two characters together to have a close match doesn't mean we should have that match. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Oh it wouldn't be close. At least 60-40 for the OOT characters. --- 90s games > 00s games |
OoT
characters would deserve it if it was a character-centric game. There's
a reason why that game can be the most popular game on the site and
only the big three have ever been in a contest from it. It's because nobody cares enough about anyone else to nominate them. There is the off chance possibility that they suffer from Charizard syndrome and just don't get nominations despite having some strength. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NE Regional - Top 8 Hopefully, we'll meet in Indianapolis... |
red sox 777 posted... Oh it wouldn't be close. At least 60-40 for the OOT characters. All the more reason not to have it. There is the off chance possibility that they suffer from Charizard syndrome and just don't get nominations despite having some strength. It's not like they have hundreds of other characters to compete with for nominations. --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
You
could probably find another ten or so FFVII characters that would be
more popular and more interesting than those OOT characters. No one,
rightfully, wants them, though! --- Knowledge is the eye of desire and can become the pilot of the soul. |
If
Midna has made it in, I don't see why Saria couldn't. She has less of a
plot role sure, but she has much better character design, has more of
an emotional connection to players, and is from a much more popular
game. FFX had more characters in the last contest than the entire LoZ series, so I don't see what's the big deal about letting about letting in someone that is probably within striking distance of Jecht. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
has more of an emotional connection to players What? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
OOT is nothing if not emotional connection to players. --- 90s games > 00s games |
Not from Saria though! --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
I've
never really heard of anyone having an emotional attachment to Midna.
Saria is the closest thing Link's ever had to a love interest, and
there's definitely more of an attachment there from people. Not sure
that Midna has a scene comparable to Saria staring off after Link after
she gives him the ocarina. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
ZFS posted... You could probably find another ten or so FFVII characters that would be more popular and more interesting than those OOT characters. No one, rightfully, wants them, though! We need Reno. --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/uc.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
I
don't think there's anything Saria does in OOT that would give players
an emotional connection to her. People have an emotional connection to
Ocarina of Time, to Link and Zelda and Ganon, but not these other minor
characters. Whatever popularity they may have comes from being part of
the ride, not because there's anything special about them specifically. --- Knowledge is the eye of desire and can become the pilot of the soul. |
People see the world through Link's eyes, so it's enough for Link to have an emotional connection to Saria. --- 90s games > 00s games |
LeonhartFour posted... It's because nobody cares enough about anyone else to nominate them. How many times have I heard you say nominations =/= strength? Also, I'd enjoy seeing Don Corneo in a contest...! --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
How many times have I heard you say nominations =/= strength? Sure, but if OoT is our #1 game and Zelda is our #1 series, why does the series barely have any representation in contests? As a general rule, popular series get lots of reps. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
In
the previous Character Battle, Zelda was a 10th seed which is a level
of nomination support disproportionately low relative to her strength.
Ganondorf's 5th seed is also a bit low for his level of power. Even
though it's a popular series, (other than Link) Zelda characters don't
do as well in the nominations as they do in the actual bracket. --- Pokemon VGC2011 NE Regional - Top 8 Hopefully, we'll meet in Indianapolis... |
Just like Vincent. FFVII is the number one game on the site, if he was strong he would have made it before 2005. Plus he's an optional character. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Zelda
is not a character driven series like Final Fantasy, MGS, or even Mario
(although in Mario's case, Nintendo's marketing and spin-off games are
the main drivers of said characters). Everyone understands that the
Zelda spotlight is all on Link, and the princess and Ganon to a lesser
extent. That's why, despite the series actually containing dozens of
secondary characters, we've only seen a significant board push for one
of them. If Epona bombs, no one will mention Zelda characters again
(unless they really want Dark Link in). --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
charmander6000 posted... Just like Vincent. FFVII is the number one game on the site, if he was strong he would have made it before 2005. Plus he's an optional character. No noms in 2002 and company caps in 2004. --- http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7760/222bj.jpg |
LeonhartFour posted... How many times have I heard you say nominations =/= strength? Sure, but if OoT is our #1 game and Zelda is our #1 series, why does the series barely have any representation in contests? As a general rule, popular series get lots of reps. Pokemon is one of the more popular series here these days and we just had a character who beat Bowser that took forever to get in... I don't really buy this excuse. If Epona gets in and rocks the house, theres no reason to think the others won't have legit strength as well --- http://raptr.com/badge/cf898f37d9c30ef120ada6c35e636ad3/uc.png http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
Zard beating Bowser was Hilarious. My guess Bowser got his revenge by teaching Pokemon Stealth Rock --- Nice catch BlAcK TuRtLe. But too bad your ass got SAAAAAAAAAAACKED.*tackles* |
And yo has it right. LoZ has always
been about three characters and three characters only: Link, Zelda, and
Ganondorf. Those are the only characters in the series that matter.
Even in Mario games, they have lots of characters who get lots of screen
time in various games. And the reasoning against Zelda characters isn't the same as the reasoning against Pokemon characters/FFVII characters. Pokemon and FFVII have several characters who are well liked to the point that they split noms with each other and essentially LFF themselves out of the contest. Zelda shouldn't really have that problem. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
