GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 996
Pikachu not being especially strong in a Pokemon vs. Pokemon match in a specifically Pokemon contest makes sense to me. Presumably the pokemon fanbase, or at least people still into pokemon, would comprise a much higher percentage of the vote there than in a gamefaqs contest. The reason Pikachu is strong here is that he channels the nostalgia and love this site has for RBY and other media earlier in the franchise due to being the mascot, and everyone here recognizes him. Being in Smash Bros. on a site as crazy about that series as this one is probably helps marginally. Well, the pokemon fanbase is still in the franchise and is therefore still making memories, and they all know who most pokemon are, nullifying a lot of Pikachu's advantages here. And Pikachu has not been especially prominent in the games lately. They would definitely still vote for him in higher proportions against outside competition, but if it's Pikachu against a liked newer Pokemon, like Salamence or something, the newer pokemon almost certainly does better among them than among gamefaqs users in general. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
43. Milotic This is disgusting. --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Your Character Battle IX champion. |
It's going to be Charizard or Mewtwo. There are no other contenders, honestly. --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
Perhaps the voters were biased against not fully evolved Pokemon. I also have a feeling the voters were biased towards the legendary Pokemon, so the top 20 could have quite a lot of legendaries up there. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Who
would be the strongest Pokemon from Gen 2? With that remake out, I
think that character might have a shot as well.. especially since R/B/Y
doesn't seem to be looking as strong as expected in that top 100 list
so far --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/RyanSaotome |
I
feel like, out of normal Pokémon, Umbreon or Ampharos should be it.
Ampharos is pretty universally liked (or at least not hated), but I
feel like it's going to inevitably be Lugia>Ho-oh due to how often
those f***ers came up when I was voting. I wouldn't be surprised if
Suicune, thanks to Crystal, was up there too. --- "I submitted brackets on all [224] of my accounts so they would get the 10 free Karma for beating SBAllen's score." - Luster Soldier |
FateStayAlbion posted... Who would be the strongest Pokemon from Gen 2? With that remake out, I think that character might have a shot as well.. especially since R/B/Y doesn't seem to be looking as strong as expected in that top 100 list so far Lugia, Tyranitar and Typhlosion would probably be the top dogs, I think! Wobbuffet could maybe be a solid psuedo-joke entrant, too. --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Your Character Battle IX champion. |
Lugia should be the strongest. In both contest strength and on the list. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Oh,
and this is long overdue, but if you want to see trend charts from any
contest from 2006 through GOTD, you can find them here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/58954908 Four years overdue! --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o2/rascalous/PhoenixWrightPS3Sales.gif |
Would anyone care if I add Leon's thing to the first post starting next topic? --- "Ulti's Post-Contest Analysis is like sex... except Board 8 has it." -RPGLord95 |
especially since R/B/Y doesn't seem to be looking as strong as expected in that top 100 list so far Venusaur, Charmander, Charmeleon, Charizard, Blastoise, Arcanine, Alakazam, Gengar, Scyther, Jolteon, Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Dragonite, Mewtwo and Mew have not shown up yet. Give it some time. RBY might end up with over half of the Top 40 with more in the 1-20 range than 21-40. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
Very
good work Leon, but I think the spreadsheet would look nicer if all of
the information was centered inside of their respective cells. By
default, all numbers, percentages, and time/date formats are aligned to
the right, while plain text is aligned to the left. For all of the percentages, they should be formatted as 2 decimal places. This can be accomplished by highlighting the columns with the percentages and clicking the "%" button. For the contests that use hourly trend charts, the "Time" column would look nicer if stuff like 0:05 was used instead of 0:05:00. You can accomplish this by highlighting the entire "Time" column and clicking on the "123" button, which will give you a dropdown list of different data formats. Look for the "15:59" option shown in this screenshot: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/1082/changedataformat.png --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
Thanks, fixed. --- "I can set you free, mate." "My freedom was forfeit long ago!" |
Pokemon on the cover of a "real" Pokemon game that we have not yet seen: Blastoise Charizard Venusaur Lugia Ho-Oh Suicune Groudon Kyogre Rayquaza Giratina (Granted, Palkia was only 86, so it probably missed this one.) Zekrom Reshiram In other words, everyone except Pikachu, Palkia, and Dialgia. Aside from what TRE mentioned, I think Snorlax and Gyarados also have a good shot. I would have thought Jigglypuff would be here from Smash and its awesome recurring though not regular appearances in the early anime, but if Pikachu didn't break the top 40 then its chances are poor. Maybe Meowth could leverage his anime appearances into a high position, though, the thing was in pretty much every first season episode. I concur that Lugia would be the strongest gen 2 poke in a gamefaqs contest, but I'm not sure it would be worth bothering to get it in. People on gamefaqs would recognize it, yeah, but I'm not sure they would care about it. I wouldn't pick it over Mudkip even considering Mudkip should be weaker 1-on-1. Speaking of which, Mudkip got absolutely robbed last contest: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3691 Scorpion was the best vote-in performer who didn't make it in and Mudkip wasn't far behind him in the same poll despite being leeched to hell. He probably wins that vote-in with ease without Missingno. there to massively suck up both joke and Pokemon votes, even with Jigglypuff still there to weigh him down. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
LOL Raiden --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
All smashers know Jigglypuff > Pikachu Even Brawlers |
LeonhartFour | Posted 4/28/2011 1:09:56 AM | message detail | quote Oh, and this is long overdue, but if you want to see trend charts from any contest from 2006 through GOTD, you can find them here: https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 Looks like it's missing the trend charts from the 2006 Series Contest. That was the first contest with a 12:00 AM start time on all matches. The FFVII/OoT bonus match shows percentages for the cells in the "Votes" column. An unintentional side effect of converting the percentages to all have 2 decimal places. That could be fixed by using the "123" button and choosing "Plain text". Afterwards, you would have to re-input the vote totals for the 7 time periods on that match. UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/28/2011 1:15:14 AM | message detail | quote Would anyone care if I add Leon's thing to the first post starting next topic? Sure, sounds like a good idea. You should include this URL in the next topic: https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA The URL is shorter than the one Leon posted, but it will still work just fine. --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
I
didn't bother with the Series Contest because the likelihood we'll ever
have another one is low, so they wouldn't be particularly useful. Although it's only 31 matches, so I guess I could get around to it eventually. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Heh,
the vote totals for the FFVII/OoT bonus match now have commas in them,
which looks ugly. That would be the result of choosing "Normal" from
that dropdown list. The only way to avoid having the commas was to choose "Plain text" instead of "Normal". That should fix the problem without any need to re-input the vote totals manually after choosing "Plain text". --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
IGN Top 100 Pokemon update. 21-40 http://www.ign.com/top/pokemon 21. Groudon 22. Typhlosion 23. Scyther 24. Raikou 25. Kyogre 26. Feraligatr 27. Lapras 28. Snorlax 29. Reshiram 30. Dragonair 31. Ninetales 32. Lucario 33. Charmeleon 34. Salamence 35. Moltres 36. Jolteon 37. Charmander 38. Garchomp 39. Giratina 40. Umbreon 9/20 are RBY. RBY might really come close to having more than half the Top 40. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
Ninetales,
that high? Weird. Raikou too, though I definitely feel there's
legendary bias here, especially with Giratina having made it that high. --- "I submitted brackets on all [224] of my accounts so they would get the 10 free Karma for beating SBAllen's score." - Luster Soldier |
Let's go Articuno --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
Let's
see, Blastoise, Venusaur, and Charizard will all be in the top 20.
Lugia, Mewtwo, and Mew also look like they will be in the top 20 as
well. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
My Top 20 prediction: Venusaur Charizard Blastoise Arcanine Alakazam Gengar Gyarados Starmie Articuno Zapdos Dragonite Mewtwo Mew Entei Suicune Tyranitar Lugia Ho-oh Rayquaza Zekrom 13/20 from RBY. Tyranitar looks like it's going to be the most popular non-legendary, non-RBY Pokemon. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
Looks good to me. Starmie and Arcanine feel like the weak links in your predictions. It sounds plausible to me that they wouldn't make the top 100 whereas I can't see most of the others you listed failing to do so. Don't really have much in the way of alternatives to guess at, though. Maybe SURPRISE MUDKIP UPSET? --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
Current stats by each generation so far: Generation 1 - 32 Generation 2 - 12 Generation 3 - 14 Generation 4 - 14 Generation 5 - 8 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Growlithe
already made the list and I can't see Arcanine being lower than
Growlithe especially since the voters seem to be bias towards fully
evolves Pokemon. Starmie might be a bit iffy, though. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
33. Charmeleon 37. Charmander :( --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
33. Charmeleon 37. Charmander :( Before they started releasing the list, I would have been very surprised to see this result. It's not as surprising anymore when Wartortle already beat Squirtle and evolved Pokemon in general beating their previous forms. Just how much higher than Bulbasaur is Venusaur going to be? --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
I'm
kinda surprised Charmeleon or Wartortle did that well. The middle
evolution of the starters seems to be the most overlooked one, the one
people seem to care the least about. Not that I'm a big Pokefan or anything, but that's just from general experience. --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
I found a mistake with Leon's trend chart for Link/Cloud/L-Block/Snake. Your trend chart for that match only adds up to a total of 190811 votes if you add up the vote totals for the PHV, FNV, BSV, DSV, ASV, and SNV. 190811 votes corresponds to the 00:00:12 update on this page: http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=2925&num=4 There is one whole hour after the update with 190811 votes. Incase you didn't know, that match was 25 hours long as a result of DST. The clock goes back one hour at 2:00 AM, which is during the FNV. So the extra hour would count towards the FNV, at least that's how I would handle it. When the DST change messed up the updater, creativename had to manually adjust the timestamps (1 hour forward) on all of the updates that came after the DST change. The match appears to end at 1:00 AM based on the final update, but that's because of the timestamp adjustment. As a result of the timestamps being adjusted, you would have to use the 07:03:01 update instead of 06:02:38 as the ending point of the FNV. The same idea applies with the other time periods. I took the liberty of creating a corrected version of your trend chart. The corrected version has a significantly lower FNV number for L-Block and a significantly higher BSV number for Link. Here is the corrected version: Time | Link | Cloud | L-Block | Snake | Votes EBV | 21.36% | 15.41% | 54.99% | 8.23% | 2453 PHV | 24.93% | 19.07% | 45.40% | 10.60% | 17528 FNV | 27.32% | 24.27% | 35.59% | 12.82% | 36932 BSV | 32.62% | 25.67% | 28.58% | 13.13% | 18200 DSV | 31.31% | 24.38% | 32.26% | 12.05% | 56758 ASV | 30.42% | 25.72% | 31.65% | 12.21% | 55734 SNV | 29.17% | 26.28% | 31.46% | 13.09% | 10208 The following updates were used for creating the above trend chart: 00:05:02, 01:01:11, 07:03:01, 10:03:11, 15:29:12, 23:00:01, and 01:01:02 When I did my trend chart, I had a choice between using 15:29:12 or 15:35:01. I went with 15:29:12 as it was closer to the end of the DSV. Leon used 00:05:02, 01:01:11, 06:02:38, 09:03:01, 14:34:02, 22:00:02, and 00:00:12 in his trend chart. --- Luster Soldier - Popular at school. ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ |
IGN Top 100 Pokemon Final Update. 1-20 http://www.ign.com/top/pokemon Full list: 1. Charizard 2. Mewtwo 3. Blastoise 4. Lugia 5. Dragonite 6. Mew 7. Rayquaza 8. Zapdos 9. Tyranitar 10. Zekrom 11. Gyarados 12. Arcanine 13. Articuno 14. Ho-oh 15. Venusaur 16. Suicune 17. Gengar 18. Entei 19. Scizor 20. Alakazam 21. Groudon 22. Typhlosion 23. Scyther 24. Raikou 25. Kyogre 26. Feraligatr 27. Lapras 28. Snorlax 29. Reshiram 30. Dragonair 31. Ninetales 32. Lucario 33. Charmeleon 34. Salamence 35. Moltres 36. Jolteon 37. Charmander 38. Garchomp 39. Giratina 40. Umbreon 41. Dialga 42. Nidoking 43. Milotic 44. Wartortle 45. Latios 46. Squirtle 47. Vaporeon 48. Pikachu 49. Flygon 50. Blaziken 51. Torterra 52. Bulbasaur 53. Espeon 54. Aerodactyl 55. Raichu 56. Haunter 57. Aggron 58. Hydreigon 59. Empoleon 60. Darkrai 61. Arceus 62. Metagross 63. Quilava 64. Kabutops 65. Haxorus 66. Sceptile 67. Pidgeot 68. Zoroark 69. Swampert 70. Cyndaquil 71. Samurott 72. Kingdra 73. Houndoom 74. Serperior 75. Absol 76. Flareon 77. Kyurem 78. Ivysaur 79. Celebi 80. Steelix 81. Latias 82. Infernape 83. Electabuzz 84. Rhydon 85. Deoxys 86. Palkia 87. Meganium 88. Electivire 89. Braviary 90. Rapidash 91. Kadabra 92. Luxray 93. Growlithe 94. Machamp 95. Glaceon 96. Hitmonlee 97. Onix 98. Cubone 99. Gabite 100. Gastly Entire Top 3 is RBY 12 out of the top 20 are RBY 21 out of the top 40 are RBY 44 out of the top 100 are RBY My prediction was off by one. I had Starmie and it was Scizor that made the Top 20. It's disappointing to see Starmie fail to make the list at all. Charizard is number 1 as expected with Mewtwo just behind him. Blastoise has a strong finish in 3rd place. I think the NRT got it wrong when they went with Squirtle. Lugia looks to be a good choice to finally get a 2nd gen Pokemon into the contest. Dragonite, Rayquaza and Zekrom seem too high to me. I think they had an unusual tendency to show up in a lot of matches so maybe they were overrated because of that. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
Heck yeah Blastoise --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
Venusaur too low. |
Judging by the NRT's past results, that just means they've found their next Pokemon to place in a NRT-contest. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
It's not like we're not taking risks on every NRT character this year. Squirtle's probably the "safest" bet regardless. --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
Never
would have guessed Scizor would be the one there. Perhaps it's
dominance of the late DPP metagame had something to do with it. Lugia has more strength to it than I would have thought. I suppose it was featured in the second movie, which got a theatrical release and came out while Pokemon was still a fad. Let's get it in. I don't think we need to see Dragonite, though. >_> Not entirely sure how Dragonite got all the way up to 5th but being a dragon probably helped. Zekrom is on the box of the most recent pokemon release. Big black thing > big white thing, so it being a good deal stronger than Reshiram makes sense to me. Rayquaza > Groudon and Kyogre is a little funky, but it probably helped that you can only catch the latter two in 2/3 versions that gen. Plus it's a dragon thing and is caught later so casual fans probably assume it's stronger. Note that Giratina beat out Palkia and Dialga, too. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
Problem
is that if Squirtle flops I doubt Blastoise will get enough support,
there are people that think Squirtle is stronger or at the very least
equal with Blastoise. I'd think people would shift towards Brock/Misty. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Blastoise
looks to be in a bad position regardless of what Squirtle does. If
Squirtle does well, it may get people to think we don't need to see
Blastoise. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
All glory to Charizard --- http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4839/drfc.png http://img.imgcake.com/Drfootballpnges.png |
After seeing Red, I'm not sure why anyone would rally for more human Pokemon characters. --- http://i43.tinypic.com/dgwh0.gif http://www.majhost.com/gallery/atukam/OHWD/snownd.gif |
Entei
at 18? The hell? I mean, I guess the slight movie boost could justify
it being over Raikou (poor guy as the only legendary dog without movie
representation), but bleh. I feel like some of these results are odd
though. Rayquaza above Pokémon like Arcanine and Gyarados is kinda
weird. I somehow doubt it would do better than either in a contest. --- "I submitted brackets on all [224] of my accounts so they would get the 10 free Karma for beating SBAllen's score." - Luster Soldier |
Man, how on earth did Blaziken get such a low ranking?!? I thought he was one of the fan favorites! Definitely an interesting list, for sure. Why is Moltres always the red-headed step child, though...? :( AxemPink posted... Not entirely sure how Dragonite got all the way up to 5th but being a dragon probably helped. It's because people love Dragonite Dad, obviously! --- CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) Your Character Battle IX champion. |
If
we're going to nominate any more Pokemon after/besides
Squirtle/Blastoise or Lugia, I'd like to see Gyarados. From RBY, looks
awesome, did pretty well in the list, its evolution from Magikarp made
it very memorable, and I'd expect Red Gyarados to have been on a lot of
people's in-game teams in GSC. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
Oh god, the vote totals are terrible on this poll. Less than 100 votes after the first minute. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
-LusterSoldier- posted... Oh god, the vote totals are terrible on this poll. Less than 100 votes after the first minute. When a game like LA Noire is dominating the poll, that shows how sad these poll options are. --- http://myanimelist.net/signature/RyanSaotome.png |
This
is definitely a very weak pack of games, because "L.A. Noire" isn't
even on the Top 100 games list despite winning this poll. In fact, only
2 games in this poll are on the Top 100 games list right now. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
The funny thing is, F.E.A.R. 3 just got delayed until June, so we get to see its "performance" next month as well! --- http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters4/terry-bwg.gif |
Yu-Gi-Oh possibly pushing for second! Hilarious. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
