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#201 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/17/2011 9:29:05 PM | message detail
Summer Contest, let's do it. Not having to worry about what day of the week a match falls on would be nice.
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#202 | Azp2k32 | Posted 4/17/2011 9:34:11 PM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
Right, and I don't think Chell'd do that well either. That said, you see her more in-game than you see yourself as Gordon Freeman in the HL-games, and -- while her face isn't on the cover or anything -- the point of the very beginning of Portal is so you can see yourself as you go through a portal, so I don't think visually recognizing her would be too bad. She's got a new look in Portal 2 though, so that may complicate things. I also don't know if Chell ever officially became her name or not (it didn't in-game for Portal 1, anyway, though they're using the same person for Portal 2 whatever her name is; "Chell" came from some in-game files like G-Man did, I believe).

I think your reaction would be typical based off of Portal 1. Portal 2 may or may not change that.


Chell is definitely her official name; it was in the Portal 2 comic that featured the Rat man.
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#203 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/17/2011 11:01:59 PM | message detail
We need a new contest. This summer would be the perfect time.

This summer would be one of the few times where I would want a contest, because it will prevent another continent poll from being run in the summer. I don't want another continent poll in the summer (since it happened last summer), as I want to figure out the trends of a continent poll when there is a normal ASV involved.
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#204 | AxemPink | Posted 4/18/2011 10:34:21 AM | message detail
http://www.g4tv.com/deathmatch/best-franchises-2011/results/
Starcraft finishes at 55% against Mass Effect. Just one more percent and the x-stats would have it tripling the Starcraft that was there early in the poll, but as is it has to settle for 74.55%.

Final match now. They apparently are not going to list the percentages, or at least not until the match is over. Not sure whether not knowing the percentages will make the Starcraft rallies increase or decrease. I do think more of the people the rallies reach would consider voting for Zelda than did Mass Effect. Starcraft may only be 2 real games, but so is Mass Effect, whereas Zelda has lots of games and a lot of the rallied people probably played at least one at some point.
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#205 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2011 10:42:34 AM | message detail
It's a shame that they are doing that. Personally I like looking at the results instead of having to wait a week. Especially for doing something that isn't even guarenteed to work, if anything rallying will probably be even harder to make sure that they got the win..
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#206 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2011 11:18:19 AM | message detail
I guess the next logical step is to wonder how Starcraft's rallying would affect our contests. It'll be likely that one or both of Sarah Kerrigan/Jim Raynor will make the next character battle.

One advantage that our contests have is time. With matches lasting 12 hours Starcraft fans would pretty much have to spread the news weeks before the actual match (like Starcraft/Halo) in order to get the large mountain of fans that they are use to get. Another thing is that Kerrigan and presumably Raynor are pretty weak. Even if we make them high fodder (which would be a huge boost) because of Starcraft 2 their initial base is pretty low to make a huge splash.

Overall given the time, number of votes we get in that time and the relative weakness of Starcraft characters ralliers may pull off a couple of upsets against low midcarders, but I doubt characters like the noble nine will be threatened.

Of course that is assuming that a large rally would happen. GameFAQs overall seems to avoid mass rallying apart from extreme cases. The same 4chan that rallied Bub & Bob over Master Chief and Sonic rarely puts a dent in our contests.
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#207 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 4/18/2011 11:21:31 AM | message detail
Remember how people took Gordon Freeman to win the contest after the GameSpot rallies for him to beat Link?

Remember how Gordon then struggled with Peach before getting beaten down by Tifa?

Remember how Sarah Kerrigan finished 4th last in the 2005 X-stats?
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#208 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 4/18/2011 11:23:20 AM | message detail
I think it needs to be emphasized.

CATS (2005c) VS Sarah Kerrigan (2005c)

CATS has a strength of 19.24.
Sarah Kerrigan has a strength of 14.95.

CATS wins with 61.15% of the vote!
A win of 21,565 with 96,717 total votes cast.
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#209 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2011 11:36:20 AM | message detail | (edited)
The main difference is that Steam did it as a one time thing while Starcraft fans have done it 4-5 times on different websites.

I would call anyone crazy if they took Kerrigan to win the next contest, but what about someone like I don't know, Lloyd Irving?
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#210 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 4/18/2011 11:46:11 AM | message detail
I think it's safe to say that Starcraft and its characters got a healthy boost from SC2. SC2 seemed to be way more campaign focused than the original, and the characters got a lot more depth this time around. Will I anticipate anything higher than a low-midcard? Probably not, but I'd put them at about the same level as Arthas was in the last couple of contests.
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#211 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/18/2011 3:18:50 PM | message detail
Wii_TuRtLe posted...
I think it's safe to say that Starcraft and its characters got a healthy boost from SC2. SC2 seemed to be way more campaign focused than the original, and the characters got a lot more depth this time around. Will I anticipate anything higher than a low-midcard? Probably not, but I'd put them at about the same level as Arthas was in the last couple of contests.

Huh? From what I've heard, SC2's singleplayer is inferior to the original (at least plot-wise), while the gameplay and multiplayer are superior.
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#212 | paulg235 | Posted 4/18/2011 3:25:25 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #208
I think it needs to be emphasized.

CATS (2005c) VS Sarah Kerrigan (2005c)

CATS has a strength of 19.24.
Sarah Kerrigan has a strength of 14.95.

CATS wins with 61.15% of the vote!
A win of 21,565 with 96,717 total votes cast.


CATS looked better than he should've thanks to Master Chief having a huge anti-vote pool.
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#213 | AxemPink | Posted 4/18/2011 4:07:27 PM | message detail
Kerrigan vs. Miles Edgeworth

WHO WINS?
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#214 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:08:38 PM | message detail
#215 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/18/2011 4:17:15 PM | message detail
Kerrigan. Winning on Gamespot should count for something.....shouldn't it?
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#216 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:17:48 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #215
Kerrigan. Winning on Gamespot should count for something.....shouldn't it?


LOL Gordon Freeman barely beating someone nobody cares about and doing worse against Tifa than Big Daddy
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#217 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/18/2011 4:20:32 PM | message detail
So is that series contest on G4 over? I refuse to give that site extra hits.
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#218 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/18/2011 4:20:52 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #216
LOL Gordon Freeman barely beating someone nobody cares about and doing worse against Tifa than Big Daddy


hey hey hey hey HEY what the hell, man? :9
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#219 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:21:57 PM | message detail
No, it's the finals.
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#220 | paulg235 | Posted 4/18/2011 4:23:12 PM | message detail
Big Daddy likely did better because of the Missingno backlash to FF7 afterwards.
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#221 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:24:17 PM | message detail
Oh, I'm not saying I'd take Big Daddy to beat Gordon Freeman or anything, but it's just to show Gamespot contests don't mean squat here and other sites don't seem to care about our contests very much.
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#222 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/18/2011 4:25:05 PM | message detail
I'd consider that pick out of sheer bias, it's not like the characters aren't really close.
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#223 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:25:50 PM | message detail
Well, Big Daddy was just coming off of BioShock 2, too, so there's plenty of reason to believe his performance was inflated.
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#224 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/18/2011 4:29:13 PM | message detail
Who's winning? I really don't want to make an account just to vote for Zelda.
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#225 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:30:33 PM | message detail
I think they're actually keeping the results anonymous until the match is over, which I suppose is a decent counter-rallying measure.
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#226 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/18/2011 4:33:26 PM | message detail
TRE/Ngamer: If you're here and reading this, could you put up the stats topics for the MM/Brawl match on the stats topic archive whenever it's convenient for you? It'd be quite enjoyable to relive that match.
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#227 | AxemPink | Posted 4/18/2011 4:51:04 PM | message detail | (edited)
That they will release the results afterward is just our assumption, though. For all we know, they could just tell us who won after it ends and kept the percentages FOREVER SECRET.
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#228 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 4:50:25 PM | message detail
Well, I'm assuming they'll at least tell us who won.
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#229 | AxemPink | Posted 4/18/2011 5:20:00 PM | message detail
...Hahahaha.
I just noticed that the franchises in gvtv's bracket are all listed in alphabetical order.
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#230 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/18/2011 5:48:33 PM | message detail
Kerrigan would win over Edgeworth without rallying.
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#231 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 4/18/2011 6:15:01 PM | message detail
TRE/Ngamer: If you're here and reading this, could you put up the stats topics for the MM/Brawl match on the stats topic archive whenever it's convenient for you? It'd be quite enjoyable to relive that match.

Done. Topics up to Pt995 are now up.
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#232 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/18/2011 6:55:55 PM | message detail
Returning to something discussed for a short while earlier, Skies seems like far too low a fodder line. Going by the stats, Halo breaks 60% on Skies.
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#233 | LOLContests | Posted 4/18/2011 6:58:48 PM | message detail
Returning to something discussed for a short while earlier, Skies seems like far too low a fodder line. Going by the stats, Halo breaks 60% on Skies.

Halo's got some strength to it. That's hardly an insult. Zelda could break 60% on a character and they'd still be above fodderline.
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#234 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/18/2011 9:01:42 PM | message detail
Huh, I think this might be the first time we've had a "Got?" poll with multiple games on it.
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#235 | AxemPink | Posted 4/18/2011 9:01:51 PM | message detail
Skies of Arcadia was worth 26.51% in the Game of the Decade x-stats. Setting Majora's Mask as 34% indirectly on Ocarina of Time gets us a value of 18.0268% for Skies. The "Vyse Fodder Line" had Vyse getting a value of 19.05 in 2003 and 19.21 in 2004. So it doesn't seem too far off.
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#236 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/19/2011 3:54:36 AM | message detail
LOLContests posted...
Returning to something discussed for a short while earlier, Skies seems like far too low a fodder line. Going by the stats, Halo breaks 60% on Skies.

Halo's got some strength to it. That's hardly an insult. Zelda could break 60% on a character and they'd still be above fodderline.


...I just can't stomach the idea of Halo being a high midcarder!
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#237 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/19/2011 7:51:58 AM | message detail
Be glad that you aren't on another site
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#238 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/19/2011 1:44:19 PM | message detail
This is probably one of the best places to be if you don't want Halo to be strong!
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#239 | Ngamer64 | Posted 4/19/2011 2:17:31 PM | message detail
Jim Raynor should get a pretty nice boost from SC2. Kerrigan, though, I'd except to remain just about static; she's barely around until the last few missions. But she's going to be a major part of the second (Zerg-themed) expansion, so there's good room for growth.

StarCraft rallying's a huge deal, obviously, but I still don't see it throwing off any results for us outside of a 24 hour final/semi-final kind of situation. It takes time to get the word out, and a 12 hour match wouldn't leave enough time for Raynor to make up all that ground on, say, Vincent or whatever.

Got to disagree with Leon when it comes to Chell; she's a pretty big deal this time around in terms of promotion. In fact everyone who logs into steam in the next week is going to see her plastered all over the place- here's the splash ad that covers the whole opening page:

http://www.upload.speedrunwiki.com/images/gaming/PortalSteamLogin.png

The biggest winner coming out of Portal 2 though has to be GlaDOS. Based on what I've seen so far (halfway through single player), she should be in for a huge boost.

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#240 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/19/2011 2:23:16 PM | message detail
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#241 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/19/2011 3:53:13 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Be glad that you aren't on another site

I meant that it's just a weird idea for Halo to be a high midcarder specifically on GameFAQs, considering how weak Master Chief is and how much Board 8 generally hates everything Halo.

I can understand the whole case for the original Halo where anti-votes are cancelled out due to "smart voters" (which might make the original Halo stronger in 1vs1, ironically), but that turning Halo into a high midcarder when its franchise's protagonist is much weaker...I just don't know.

I guess people somehow have nostalgia for Halo and GTAIII and thus don't anti-vote those games (or at least work to balance out the anti-voting), but they work to downvote World of Warcraft and anything Call of Duty because those games are still very relevant today?

...would StarCraft II be an anti-vote magnet?
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#242 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/19/2011 4:06:39 PM | message detail | (edited)
Master Chief has decent strength. Sure he's nowhere close to what he is on other sites, but getting 47.44% on Hayabusa doesn't make you weak.
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#243 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/19/2011 5:22:20 PM | message detail

From: Ngamer64 | #239
Got to disagree with Leon when it comes to Chell; she's a pretty big deal this time around in terms of promotion. In fact everyone who logs into steam in the next week is going to see her plastered all over the place- here's the splash ad that covers the whole opening page:


Well, I was just speaking from experience based on the first game. I don't know enough about Portal 2 to say much of anything about her role in it, but if she's still a faceless, nameless (strictly speaking in-game) silent protagonist, I doubt she'll be much of anything.

Again, don't know enough about Portal 2 to comment on her role in it.
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#244 | AxemPink | Posted 4/19/2011 5:23:14 PM | message detail
Halo is a midcarder, sure, but I wouldn't call it an especially high one. It's worth what, 25% on Ocarina of Time? That's worse than what Master Chief typically ends up worth on Link.
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#245 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/19/2011 5:27:36 PM | message detail
Yeah, but OoT compared to the rest of the field is stronger than Link is compared to the rest of the field.
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#246 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/19/2011 8:30:02 PM | message detail
I meant that it's just a weird idea for Halo to be a high midcarder specifically on GameFAQs, considering how weak Master Chief is and how much Board 8 generally hates everything Halo.

Halo hate seems to have died down quite a bit than what it used to be a few years ago. Board 8 has taken on a hate towards Call of Duty and World of Warcraft now.
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#247 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/19/2011 9:01:02 PM | message detail
It'll be interesting to see how many people will stay loyal to their continent.
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#248 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 4/19/2011 9:01:27 PM | message detail
I want to know who that 1 person is out of the first 150 votes that wants to live in Africa
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#249 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/19/2011 9:01:52 PM | message detail
I love today's poll, but it is definitely no substitute for an actual continent poll. I'll still track poll updates to see if the trends have any kind of similarity to last year's continent poll.
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#250 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/19/2011 10:08:42 PM | message detail
North America with a 1596 vote lead on Europe at the end of the first hour. I'd say that North America is in a good position to reach a 3000 vote lead on Europe before Europe starts to rip North America apart. A 3000 vote lead should be enough to keep Europe from taking the lead overnight, because it will be brutal later tonight.
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