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#51 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/4/2011 3:11:02 PM | message detail
Yay Zelda is beating Mario. I was worried that wouldn't happen on a different site, but the Nintendo fanbase pulls through.
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#52 | AxemPink | Posted 4/4/2011 4:15:14 PM | message detail
Joy.

It's probably not just the fanbase's preference at this point, though, but also sales. At this point, among serious American gamers, 3-D Zelda rivals if not beats 3-D Mario's sales.

I wonder if gamefaqs' apathy about New Super Mario Bros. Wii is shared by the populace of other major gaming sites? It wouldn't surprise me considering how 2-D platformers were largely neglected for about a decade. If so, Zelda would probably have a shot at winning at any of these places.
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#53 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/4/2011 4:27:07 PM | message detail
Nah on average Zelda series would always win over Mario series.
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#54 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/4/2011 4:55:01 PM | message detail
Looking for charmander's answer on this post:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/58664378/651203289

BT already gave his answer on that post, but maybe there's something that you could add that BT didn't mention.
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#55 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/4/2011 5:05:22 PM | message detail
Mario outperformed Link against Freeman at Gamespot, no?

So Castlevania and Metroid are looking like pieces of trash right now.

Lol Halo > Mario.

Uhhh...that's all I have to say.
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#56 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/4/2011 5:12:01 PM | message detail
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Well, according to GamesRadar, Wind Waker > Mario 3 > Galaxy > LttP > SM64 > Twilight Princess

So I guess the Zelda series having the best game out of both franchises...yeah.

EDIT: No, the Zelda series is winning because of all those Ocarina of Time drones. I remember back when GMUN (or someone) posted a link to a "Best Games Ever" poll that was taking place on another site, and Ocarina was easily in 1st there. Then again, that doesn't explain why Zelda allowed Halo to post 45% on it...oh right, godd'mn Halo fans.
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#57 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/4/2011 5:53:07 PM | message detail
It comes down to US/Canada being two different markets, it's like going through the polls and being surprised every time Germany and Netherlands have different results. It makes sense going by real life. While people did own an Xbox, let's just say the Gamecube was probably closer to the PS2 than the Xbox.

I was pretty shocked to find out the Xbox was close let alone winning over the Gamecube. Then again it was no where close to the shock of finding out that the PS won and demolished the N64
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#58 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/4/2011 5:56:00 PM | message detail
Looks like Canadian GameFAQs agrees with me on the PS/N64 though

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3539&region=CA
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3541&region=CA
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#59 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/4/2011 6:31:41 PM | message detail
Whoa, Assassin's Creed doubling Call of Duty? Not sure if that says good things about AC or bad things about CoD (and by virtue, Castlevania).
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#60 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/4/2011 6:39:15 PM | message detail
Castlevania hasn't done anything in years.
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#61 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 4/4/2011 6:56:25 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Whoa, Assassin's Creed doubling Call of Duty? Not sure if that says good things about AC or bad things about CoD (and by virtue, Castlevania).

It just says that AC is legit. I think it has the potential to become a really big series, even here, if they stick to it. I'm pretty disappointed that Altair didn't stay as the main character of the full series, since if they built that series around him, he could easily be the strongest Western character here after a few games.
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#62 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/4/2011 6:58:30 PM | message detail
If they stick with Ezio, he has a higher ceiling than Altair anyway.
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#63 | Evillordexdeath | Posted 4/4/2011 7:58:45 PM | message detail
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#64 | pjbasis | Posted 4/4/2011 11:43:35 PM | message detail | (edited)
So was a Kirby or F-Zero game announced for 3DS or something?
#65 | AxemPink | Posted 4/4/2011 11:57:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
Yes for Kirby.

No for F-Zero. They didn't mention Mother either, which would probably perform better in this poll than F-Zero would. It makes sense, though; no point in asking about dead or finished franchises.
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#66 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/5/2011 2:12:05 AM | message detail
For no reason I found out that four of the first round matches in G4's contest involved a series that was far newer than its competitor emerging victorious (Call of Duty, Gears of War, Mass Effect, and Uncharted were the victors in said cases).
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#67 | pjbasis | Posted 4/5/2011 3:02:26 AM | message detail
I'm sure F-Zero could beat Mario Party.
#68 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 4/5/2011 5:49:08 AM | message detail
It just occurred to me we haven't had a Star Fox game since Command (the 3DS remake notwithstanding)

Come on Nintendo, get it together.
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#69 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 4/5/2011 6:22:41 AM | message detail
At least Star Fox is still getting a game, even if it is a remake.

We haven't had an F-Zero game since GX. Not even a DS game!
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#70 | AxemPink | Posted 4/5/2011 6:30:32 AM | message detail
I'm sure F-Zero could beat Mario Party.

Of course, but the Mario Party series isn't dead, so it deserved the spot more IMO.
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#71 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/5/2011 7:53:46 AM | message detail
The Mario Party series is dead now!
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#72 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/5/2011 8:14:57 AM | message detail
Not as dead as F-Zero
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#73 | Azp2k32 | Posted 4/5/2011 8:44:26 AM | message detail
Wasn't there that attempted F-Zero "reboot" of sorts with that GBA game, post-GX? With the new main character and all; I think it had a bad Fox cartoon to accompany it.
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#74 | AxemPink | Posted 4/5/2011 9:07:57 AM | message detail
Something like that.
It wouldn't surprise me if Captain Falcon draws more strength here from that one Falcon Punch clip from that cartoon than from all of the F-Zero games combined, though Smash Bros. trumps both, obviously.
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#75 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/5/2011 9:32:06 AM | message detail
F-Zero GX couldn't even break 31% on Dragon Age that went to get doubled by Twilight Princess and given the opponent I wouldn't be surprised if the game got a bunch of apathy votes from Nintendo fans that know where Captain Falcon came from, but never played any of the games.
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#76 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/5/2011 9:35:57 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #067
I'm sure F-Zero could beat Mario Party.


F-Zero couldn't beat the sand on Kefka's boots.
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#77 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 4/5/2011 9:41:15 AM | message detail
It saddens me my favorite Nintendo series are always so weak. My three favorites are Mother, F-Zero and Advance Wars, yet they always seem to be at the very bottom of the popularity polls.
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#78 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/5/2011 9:59:35 AM | message detail
It doesn't help that Nintendo forgets about Mother (not releasing anything in North America) and F-Zero (and that Mario Kart has the racing genre locked up).

As for Advance Wars, like Fire Emblem strategy games aren't for everyone.
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#79 | pjbasis | Posted 4/5/2011 10:02:02 AM | message detail
Mario Party can't beat the sons of submariners.




or something...whatever...
#80 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 4/5/2011 10:13:11 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #078
It doesn't help that Nintendo forgets about Mother (not releasing anything in North America) and F-Zero (and that Mario Kart has the racing genre locked up).

As for Advance Wars, like Fire Emblem strategy games aren't for everyone.


Which is silly, because F-Zero and Mario Kart are completely different.

Damn, I feel like playing F-Zero X now
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#81 | AxemPink | Posted 4/5/2011 10:41:39 AM | message detail
Donkey Kong's poor performance here after DKCR did well in Wii GOTY is slightly disappointing. Hmmm.

Vivi, Winter 2010:
Chaos Round 1 --- Defeated (10) Donkey Kong, 30113 [56.29%] - 23379 [43.71%]
Chaos Round 2 --- Defeated (2) Altair, 41571 [55.79%] - 32944 [44.21%]

Donkey Kong vs. Altair next character battle. Both have had some reason to boost since then (Brotherhood and DKCR), perhaps DK moreso but he lost to Vivi by more anyways.

Considering Donkey Kong's losses to Vercetti, Master Chief, and Kratos in the past, Altair is clearly the next logical step.

Make it happen, Bacon.
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#82 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/5/2011 10:50:05 AM | message detail
I don't see DKC working in 3D.
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#83 | HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2011 1:42:36 PM | message detail
I've considered Mario Party dead since Wii Party landed. Is there something I'm missing?


Does anybody want to take this poll particularly seriously for contest-strength? I don't really wish to since there are other factors in the way (some of these are already very likely for 3DS, the 3D-effect may be better used in some series than others, yada yada yada), but the options are pretty similar to this...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3998

...without LoZ and Mario taking 52.24% of the votes. That's quite a lot of pressure released off of these other high-tier options like SSB/Pokemon/Metroid, so I don't really know how much more/less accurate this poll is. I'm not sure which I'd rather believe more, for example: Pokemon beating Mario or losing to SSB?
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#84 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 4/5/2011 1:48:12 PM | message detail
I've considered Mario Party dead since Wii Party landed. Is there something I'm missing?

I've pretty much considered it dead since Smash Bros took over as the big party game of the Nintendo consoles. Mario Party was really big back on n64, but I never heard much about it at all on GC. And do they even make it for Wii?
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#85 | HaRRicH | Posted 4/5/2011 1:53:52 PM | message detail
They had one for the Wii in 2007. I've not seen it since, though Wii Party has since been released.
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#86 | TRE Public Account | Posted 4/5/2011 2:24:29 PM | message detail
I'm not sure which I'd rather believe more, for example: Pokemon beating Mario or losing to SSB?

It's possible Pokemon is being hurt by the fact that the latest set of games only came out a month ago. Most people probably aren't worrying about when the next set of Pokemon games will be out yet.
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#87 | Azp2k32 | Posted 4/5/2011 2:28:05 PM | message detail
TRE Public Account posted...
I'm not sure which I'd rather believe more, for example: Pokemon beating Mario or losing to SSB?

It's possible Pokemon is being hurt by the fact that the latest set of games only came out a month ago. Most people probably aren't worrying about when the next set of Pokemon games will be out yet.


Plus, people have wanted portable SSB for a long time. Portable Pokémon is a luxury we've had since since it existed. Honestly, I have no idea why we never saw a port of SSB to DS at least, Nintendo has to know that would've been instant +3 billion dollars.
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#88 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/5/2011 2:28:07 PM | message detail
I'm not sure which I'd rather believe more, for example: Pokemon beating Mario or losing to SSB?

Probably the latter. The Legend of Zelda just crushed Mario in that poll, I think.
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#89 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 4/5/2011 10:24:29 PM | message detail
#90 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/5/2011 10:55:19 PM | message detail
I'm not ready to take Pokemon over Smash Bros.

And it'll never beat Mario Bros. in a Series Contest.

Never.
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#91 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/5/2011 11:00:26 PM | message detail | (edited)
I'm not ready to take Pokemon over Smash Bros.

And it'll never beat Mario Bros. in a Series Contest.

Never.


It won't beat Mario, and I really doubt it could even break 40%, but I would laugh pretty hard if it did. I wouldn't take Pokemon over Smash Bros. either; it still lost to Metroid in 2006. However far it's come since then, Smash Bros. is still pretty far above Metroid.
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#92 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/5/2011 11:02:45 PM | message detail
I mean, it's not like we'll ever get another Series Contest anyway, so anything we say is pretty much meaningless conjecture.

I do kinda wonder if Super Mario Bros. could somehow manage to beat Final Fantasy now. Final Fantasy in general probably hasn't been as strong as it was in 2006 since then.
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#93 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/5/2011 11:11:59 PM | message detail | (edited)
Never. This site will be Zelda vs. Final Fantasy in perpetuity. Besides, Nintendo is weaker now than in 2006 too.

Plus, I insist that Cloud was a much better picture for FF than Ashe.
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#94 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/5/2011 11:12:43 PM | message detail | (edited)
That's true, but which has fallen more, I wonder. I suppose you could argue it's pretty similar since Link/Cloud 2006 and Link/Cloud 2010 were virtually identical results.

And yeah, FF's picture in the SMB match wasn't the best.
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#95 | Haste_2 | Posted 4/6/2011 7:25:42 PM | message detail
Well, you first have to note that Final Fantasy had a crap picture against Mario; I believe it featured Ashe, when FFXII wasn't even released yet. Maybe it's not the popular opinion, but I think "series" are more inconsistent and volatile in poll than games or characters, since it's more difficult for someone to envision how well they truly feel about a series.

Also, I find yesterday's poll very interesting as comparing Metroid and Pokemon. It looks like their series 2006 match, really. I guess Pokemon really is past its prime now, if Pokemon ever actually gained more of a popularity advantage since then?
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#96 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/6/2011 11:24:18 PM | message detail
Plus oftentimes you might just view a franchise as being weak even if it has games and/or characters you really like. Metroid and Civilization come to mind for me, and I'm sure Half-Life could fit into the same discussion. Those franchises often take way too long between installments.
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#97 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 4/8/2011 8:01:37 AM | message detail
Pokemon doesn't have anything to hype to for now. Guess we'll have to wait for the RSE 3DS remakes! Don't think Pokemon is dropping off any. It did great in the last character contest, and people were overestimating GSC last contest anyway.

Still, I'd probably pick Pokemon over Metroid in a rematch. Mario > FF sounds tempting, but I don't think I'd bite. FF might have fallen, but Mario's recent games haven't been that impressive here either.
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#98 | WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 4/8/2011 8:47:26 AM | message detail
It's going to be hilarious when people underestimate RBY because GSC is *only* equal to Resident Evil 4 before SFF.
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#99 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/8/2011 3:59:20 PM | message detail
I'd take Super Mario Galaxy 2 over anything FF has put out since FFX pretty easily. We're not picking FF12/13 > SMG2, right?

We'll just see in which generations does who have the advantage:

NES era - Mario easily
SNES era - Mario
PS1 era - FF easily
PS2 era - FF easily
PS3 era - Mario

FF easily wins the two generations that this site seems to care the most about, so it would still win, though it would likely do worse and may even fail to break 51%.
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#100 | AxemPink | Posted 4/9/2011 5:43:10 PM | message detail
http://www.g4tv.com/deathmatch/best-franchises-2011/results/

Based on how much some of the round two numbers changed from when I last checked to the end of the round, I'm suspecting either very heavy rallying or cheating. In particular, IIRC The Elder Scrolls was at 58% at one point but it ended up losing with 40% to...Starcraft. And we all know the Starcraft fanbase would never care enough about an internet poll to do such a thing!

ROUND THREE

At the moment, Zelda has 64% on Grand Theft Auto, Mass Effect has 64% on Resident Evil, and Assassin's Creed got 64% on Call of Duty last round. WHICH 64% DO YOU THINK IS BEST?
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