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#1 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/1/2011 7:42:23 PM | message detail
Good topic number, but I feel like 669 was more fun. Such a good match that day.



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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/1/2011 7:43:04 PM | message detail
Crono > Sephiroth BELIEVE
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#3 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/1/2011 7:58:45 PM | message detail
Oh good, let's keep this one bumped for two weeks while the other one fills up!
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#4 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2011 9:34:09 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #003
Oh good, let's keep this one bumped for two weeks while the other one fills up!


It barely even took 12 hours!

Play EarthBound.
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#5 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2011 9:35:07 AM | message detail
MMX shouldn't be allowed anyway. If he's allowed in then, Toon Link should be as well.

Quoting this again because it's one of the worst posts I've ever seen.
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#6 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2011 10:13:57 AM | message detail
Serge is an amazing character. How would you feel if you woke up to find you'd been dead for 10 years? Ok, so that doesn't really say much about Serge as a character, but it does build emotional attachment, which is what truly matters as far as I'm concerned. All the other characters in the game are bad.
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#7 | Justin_Crossing | Posted 4/2/2011 10:15:18 AM | message detail
you can't wake up dead
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#8 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 10:52:41 AM | message detail
Serge > Crono

And it's not my fault there was some weird Pokemon thing IGN started to boost discussion!
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#9 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 10:55:51 AM | message detail
(Also Raiden isn't a good example of "Player is the protagonist" either, ooh dog tags with my name on it and virtual reality soldier he's really me!)

(Toon Link is awesome just for the design)
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#10 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2011 10:56:49 AM | message detail
Once we're in the 480 range of posts, topics tend to be closed out pretty quickly, because once we get to 490 there's always a surge of posts to close out the thread.
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#11 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2011 10:58:29 AM | message detail
WW Link is great because he's still Link. The underlying character is just so good that it would take a lot to ruin him. Like making him a wolf in some misguided attempt to make him more like Solid Snake.
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#12 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 10:59:19 AM | message detail
...I don't really get the connection between Wolf Link and Solid Snake.
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#13 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2011 11:04:53 AM | message detail
Link is a hero. Solid Snake is not a hero. Wolves are not heroic, but they're supposed to make the game darker and more gritty and stuff like that. If you don't see the connection, you just have to divide gaming into two halves: legend and realism. LoZ has always been about the former and MGS/most modern games is about the latter.
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#14 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 11:06:21 AM | message detail
I feel like you're making a bit of a stretch here.

And LOL MGS is about realism
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#15 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/2/2011 11:08:28 AM | message detail
Or to put it in Nietzschean/Board 8 terms, Link is the hero that fights for the slave morality, but is not subject to it himself. He is a superman, an alpha, but rather than oppressing betas he fights and destroys all other alphas. And he wins every contest because he's just so incredibly amazing.
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#16 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/2/2011 11:08:40 AM | message detail
Yeah TP Link is nothing like Solid Snake, his actions still fall in line with normal Links
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#17 | Justin_Crossing | Posted 4/2/2011 11:25:57 AM | message detail
http://www.freewebs.com/starfoxcharged/photos/wolf.jpg

the missing link between link and snake
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#18 | AxemPink | Posted 4/2/2011 1:54:32 PM | message detail
So, barring the horrifically inconsistent characters (Missingno. and Big Boss) who's the strongest character we wouldn't quite call a near-elite at this point? Luigi?
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#19 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 2:18:54 PM | message detail
Big Boss is inconsistent? Nah, he seems relatively normal now.
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#20 | LOLContests | Posted 4/2/2011 2:20:52 PM | message detail
The link in Wind Waker (which is what I meant by Toon Link) is a distinct character that is not related to any other Link. They say so in the script to the game. Not that I want to see him in.
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#21 | Big Bob | Posted 4/2/2011 2:49:03 PM | message detail
Err, with the exceptions of the direct sequels, ALL Links are different.

Why are we talking about Link anyway? Chances are he's not even going to be in the next contest.
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#22 | voltch | Posted 4/2/2011 2:53:51 PM | message detail
But I like having the most popular characters in my popularity contests.

But if you're going to ban someone, ban only Link, Cloud's got such a dumb haterzbase that you can bandwagon over him.
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#23 | pjbasis | Posted 4/2/2011 7:17:42 PM | message detail
I hate Wind Waker as much as the next guy, but the designs for Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf are top tier.
Twilight Princess actually had great designs too.

Guess the artistic talent goes up as game design goes down!

Also, Toon Link is the best thing that happened to smash bros., but I main him so I may be biased.
#24 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/2/2011 8:58:40 PM | message detail
Dunno, I still like Ocarina's art design the most.
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#25 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 4/2/2011 9:01:31 PM | message detail
We've got a poll about Sony consoles now. For reference the Nintendo poll was here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4287
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#26 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 9:04:09 PM | message detail
Good poll today. Should be interesting to see the results here.
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#27 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 4/2/2011 9:04:39 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #009
(Also Raiden isn't a good example of "Player is the protagonist" either, ooh dog tags with my name on it and virtual reality soldier he's really me!)


I meant more with how Raiden grows along with the person controlling him, not literally being him. MGS2 has such great writing in it.

From: pjbasis | #023
I hate Wind Waker as much as the next guy, but the designs for Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf are top tier.


I respect you dude, but

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/WindWaker_Link_3308.jpg

http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-02/art/zww-zelda.jpg

http://www.nintendobuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Ganondorf-Wind-Waker-Screen-Shot.jpg

really? Really? REALLY?

Come on, man.
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#28 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 9:11:01 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #027
I meant more with how Raiden grows along with the person controlling him


what
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#29 | pjbasis | Posted 4/2/2011 9:22:35 PM | message detail
What can I say? They were cartoony, but without looking childishly stupid like the Great Deku Tree or Valoo.

And I mean, Ganondorf! Come on, he looked cool at least!
#30 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/2/2011 9:27:31 PM | message detail
I voted for "Just the original PlayStation" in this poll.
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#31 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/2/2011 9:29:22 PM | message detail
So Raiden is like Tidus or Squall or something? You know, that might be someone who I can seriously get behind if he really "grows with the player".

...Metal Gear Solid 2 is supposed to be one of the best games ever, right? I really wish that rumored MGS compilation for PS3 was confirmed.
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#32 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/2/2011 9:30:42 PM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #031
So Raiden is like Tidus or Squall or something?


oh ho ho ho ho ho

That's rich
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#33 | ZFS | Posted 4/2/2011 9:32:09 PM | message detail
we've managed to avoid drowning (in all these codec calls)
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#34 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 4/2/2011 9:43:22 PM | message detail
Oh and from what I've heard MGS4 is supposed to be by far the worst MGS game, easily trashed by 1-3, and closer to Peace Walker.

Essentially, from what I've heard the order is 3 >= 1 >= 2 >> 4.
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#35 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 4/3/2011 5:51:58 AM | message detail
I'd be curious to see how Toon Link would do in a contest. The whole separate Link thing is one giant clusterf***, but technically they're different characters, so Toon Link should in theory be eligible. Whether Bacon wants to deal with that crap is a whole other story.

I think Toon Link would have no problem beating Dark Link, even if Dark had an OoT pic.
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#36 | pjbasis | Posted 4/3/2011 5:55:03 AM | message detail
The problem is "Mega Man" and "Mega Man X" refer to distinct characters.

"Toon Link" and "Link" do not.
They just refer to different art styles used to portray the different Links.
While generally referring to the WW/PH Link, other games have used the Toon design that are clearly not the same Link.
#37 | HaRRicH | Posted 4/3/2011 8:08:40 AM | message detail
Since I saw Tidus mentioned, that reminds me: Leonhart, I finally bought FFX about a week or so ago to keep my word on our deal from Braid. I doubt I'll do a playthrough-topic, but I'll keep you posted when I start it sometime in the future.
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#38 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/3/2011 11:38:59 AM | message detail
Outstanding. Keep me informed indeed.

And Dark Young Toon Link forever
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#39 | red sox 777 | Posted 4/3/2011 3:22:49 PM | message detail
Dark Young Toon Link sounds like something out of Yugioh. I'm not sure quite how self-aware the site is, but it'd be hilarious to see him take down Cloud.
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#40 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 4/3/2011 9:06:59 PM | message detail
Microsoft consoles this time. I wonder if we'll get a Sega poll as well.
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#41 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 4/3/2011 9:50:20 PM | message detail
Over 40% of Gamefaqs owned an original Xbox? Thats a lot more than I expected.
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#42 | LeonhartFour | Posted 4/3/2011 9:51:40 PM | message detail
Well, Young Toon Link is a bit redundant since Toon Link is always young, but whatever, I was just trying to max out the adjectives.
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#43 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 4/4/2011 5:59:53 AM | message detail
FateStayAlbion posted...
Over 40% of Gamefaqs owned an original Xbox? Thats a lot more than I expected.

If 40% of this site is anything like me, they waited for the 360 to come out when Xboxes were dirt cheap.
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#44 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 4/4/2011 8:10:46 AM | message detail
Less than 1/20th of the site has never owned a Nintendo console.
Less than 1/10th of the site has never owned a Sony console.
More than 1/3rd of the site has never owned a Microsoft console.
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#45 | charmander6000 | Posted 4/4/2011 8:23:34 AM | message detail
Well Microsoft never had a PS2 like console and one of its consoles was pretty hated until the end of its lifecycle.
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#46 | pjbasis | Posted 4/4/2011 9:39:53 AM | message detail | (edited)
If I had owned an original X-Box, I would have been able to vote the "all of them" option for all four polls (Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, current gen).


**** Sega
#47 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 4/4/2011 12:50:39 PM | message detail
I am surprised at the insane difference between the US and Canada in this poll. I wonder why Microsoft consoles aren't as popular in Canada compared to the US?
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#48 | AxemPink | Posted 4/4/2011 1:17:51 PM | message detail
Are modern FPS games in general more popular in the US than in Canada? They do rely a lot on online multiplayer and I hear Canadian internet often sucks.
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#49 | Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 4/4/2011 1:59:38 PM | message detail
I didn't know anybody that had an Xbox around here until the 360 was out, so I guess that result kind of makes sense. Part of it is marketing too. I don't remember the Xbox having as much of a marketing presence as Nintendo/Sony at that time.
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#50 | AxemPink | Posted 4/4/2011 2:45:37 PM | message detail
So, remember this from last topic?

http://www.g4tv.com/deathmatch/best-franchises-2011/results/

Well, they're on Round 2 now.

Gears of War pulled through against Final Fantasy but is now going to lose to Fallout.

The x-stats from the gamefaqs series contest project Mario to get 45.83% on Zelda indirectly, and at the moment it's getting 44% directly on it over there.
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