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#251 | LOLContests | Posted 3/21/2011 9:27:45 PM | message detail
I don't see why MvC3 should be irrelevant. A lot of characters from MvC2 like Morrigan and Strider (OK, pretty much Morrigan and Strider) looked pretty impressive in 2002.
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#252 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/21/2011 9:28:39 PM | message detail
You know who else looked pretty impressive in 2002? Claire Redfield.

*checks today's poll*
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#253 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2011 9:31:52 PM | message detail
Didn't MvC2 do pretty well in the last contest?

Also, SSF4 is finally coming to a Nintendo console. That's can't hurt!
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#254 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/21/2011 9:33:38 PM | message detail
You know what other game did pretty well in the last contest?

Brawl.

Let's nominate Olimar, Dedede, Pit, Wolf, Lucario, Lucas...
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#255 | LOLContests | Posted 3/21/2011 9:41:00 PM | message detail | (edited)
You know who else looked pretty impressive in 2002? Claire Redfield.

Claire was coming off a new game and was the main character in what were considered the two best games in her series (Edit: Er..critically that is). Not to mention WDF and Sonic/Tidus inflating her numbers. She's done nothing since then, but her drop off in contest popularity in 2006 wasn't any worse than Jill's was between 2003 and her later years.
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#256 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/21/2011 9:38:02 PM | message detail
I say we nominate Crono, Magus, Frog, Lucca, Robo, Melchior, Gaspar, Crono's Mom, and Alfador. And of course.......Link!
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#257 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/21/2011 9:39:50 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #254
You know what other game did pretty well in the last contest?

Brawl.

Let's nominate Olimar, Dedede, Pit, Wolf, Lucario, Lucas...


Well I don't know about you, but I think a little more highly of Wesker and Ryu than Olimar, Dedede, and all the other Brawl scrubs.

But if this means we can start a rally for Mike Haggar, sign me the f*** up.
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#258 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/21/2011 9:41:09 PM | message detail | (edited)
Well, I don't have a problem with Wesker and Ryu, obviously.

But let's not get carried away thinking Arthur, Felicia, and even Haggar are going to be worth anything now.

Guy > Haggar forever anyway
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#259 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/22/2011 5:50:47 AM | message detail
As in the Guy from I Wanna Be the Guy???
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#260 | voltch | Posted 3/22/2011 6:14:19 AM | message detail
Felicia might get like 10 more furry votes with all that exposure.
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#261 | Ultimaphazon | Posted 3/22/2011 7:16:32 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #259
As in the Guy from I Wanna Be the Guy???


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#262 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/22/2011 10:14:52 AM | message detail
I was talking more about the Ikes and Meta Knights (or Marth from Melee) of MvC3. So fan favourites.
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#263 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/22/2011 10:19:51 AM | message detail
With all of the discussion about today's poll, charmander managed to overlook this post:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/58337724/649320043
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#264 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/22/2011 10:29:10 AM | message detail
I think it's a US thing instead of Canada. We seem to be around normal, it's just that the US really loves it. Kind of like Halo, Kingdom Hearts and to an extent Super Smash Bros.

I saw Gameboys throughout my life so I can't say we didn't like them.
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#265 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/22/2011 10:47:05 AM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3420

Compared to the last RE character poll, Wesker is the big winner and Leon is the big loser. Jill has remained consistent despite a much stronger Wesker (and stronger Chris) holding her back. So yeah, overall there's nothing surprising here. The three RE5 and MvC3 characters have either increased nicely or stayed consistent, while characters who haven't seen a big release in years (Leon, Ada, Nemesis) are seeing drops, with Leon taking the bulk of the damage. I love the fact that Claire is actually doing a bit better despite not seeing a big release in a decade, though. CLEARLY SIGNS FOR A CONTEST RALLY.
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#266 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 3/22/2011 10:50:32 AM | message detail
Who are these people who voted Sheva?

That should be grounds for ip bans.
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#267 | FateStayAlbion | Posted 3/22/2011 7:09:58 PM | message detail
I would expect Marvel Vs. Capcom 3 to boost Dante enough to beat Ryu, at least... he was already close enough, and I doubt Ryu is going to boost much from a fighting game, while MvC3 at least introduces Dante to a new audience.

Zero may get a tiny boost as well, he seems to be pretty popular in it
#268 | HaRRicH | Posted 3/23/2011 12:11:19 PM | message detail
Was Dante in MvsC2?
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#269 | AxemPink | Posted 3/23/2011 12:16:06 PM | message detail | (edited)
Yeah, I think I'd side with Dante in another rematch against Ryu for that exact reason. Their result last year implies it would pretty much be a coin flip anyways, so every little bit helps.

Zero might get a boost but I'm not sure I see him doing a lot with it. Would anyone pick him over any of the Nintendo or FF near-elites or MMX even if he did? Ryu/Dante got MvC3 too, and the only other particularly strong people are like...Kratos, Aeris, and Sora. Maybe Shepherd if you think he'll boost again.

Edit: Dante didn't exist as of MvC2.
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#270 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2011 12:35:40 PM | message detail
Oh cool, Albion's back temporarily until he gets axed again for admitting to pedophilia.
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#271 | HaRRicH | Posted 3/23/2011 3:28:35 PM | message detail
That's...probably true.

Still, welcome back.
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#272 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2011 7:01:27 PM | message detail
You are way too nice to people who don't deserve it. The guy literally admitted to being a pedophile.

Not lolicon, not anime, but real kids.
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#273 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2011 7:04:32 PM | message detail
It has nothing to do with contest stats and discussion.
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#274 | HaRRicH | Posted 3/23/2011 7:06:45 PM | message detail
I remember, and that's s***ty. That's why I'm not ever talking to him about sex.
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#275 | pjbasis | Posted 3/23/2011 7:09:11 PM | message detail
In the stats topic, as long as you respect the rules,we don't care if you're a murderer or a rapist.

After that, it don't matter if you're a saint, but you're outta here.
#276 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2011 7:45:05 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #274
I remember, and that's s***ty. That's why I'm not ever talking to him about sex.


lol

Only reason to welcome that dude back is because him getting banned is always funny, nothing else.
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#277 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/23/2011 7:45:20 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #273
It has nothing to do with contest stats and discussion.


Yes and there's so much of both right now.
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#278 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/23/2011 7:47:19 PM | message detail
I'd rather not know anything about people posting here.
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#279 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/23/2011 7:51:36 PM | message detail
And talking about people's life should replace it?
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#280 | Demon HunterX | Posted 3/23/2011 8:22:38 PM | message detail
ulti/albion is an underrated rivalry.

I mean its not yankees/red sox, pirates/economic structure of baseball, kruschev/kennedy, or india/pakistan, but its solid.

anyway. MvC3 will boost dante a bit, but im not sure if id put him above ryu. Ryu and the street fighter games in general have a pretty passionate fanbase
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#281 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/24/2011 4:18:58 PM | message detail | (edited)
Old vs. New Matchups:

The Legend of Zelda vs. Mass Effect 2
Metroid vs. Rock Band 2
Final Fantasy vs. Portal

What's the strongest modern (PS2/GC/Xbox or later) game you would take The Legend of Zelda II: The Adventure of Link to beat?
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#282 | pjbasis | Posted 3/24/2011 4:36:26 PM | message detail
Zelda
Metroid
Portal
#283 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/24/2011 5:11:50 PM | message detail
Strongest I would pick to Zelda II to beat from those generation would be...Mario Galaxy 2.

Also:

Zelda 1 > Mass Effect 2
Metroid > Rock Band 2
Portal > Final Fantasy
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#284 | AxemPink | Posted 3/24/2011 7:14:09 PM | message detail | (edited)
Zelda I. Not going against the LAW without good reason.

I have some respect for the original Metroid's strength, so I can't really believe it would manage to lose to Rock Band 2.

If Portal could get 60% on Final Fantasy XII, I can't really believe that Final Fantasy I could beat it.

Unlike with Zelda I, I do have good reason to go against the LAW for Zelda II. It doesn't have the first-game-in-the-series thing Zelda I has going, doesn't have an very good reputation, and its sales were about 2/3rds that of its predecessor. It should probably be weaker than Link's Awakening, I think, but hard to say where it falls beyond that. Quite possibly still strong enough to be worth seeing, but I think Mario 2 would be stronger.
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#285 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/24/2011 10:52:59 PM | message detail
Cool poll today. That top percentage is gonna sink all day (and probably big), but we could still end up with 30% of this site owning all five Nintendo consoles. That is impressive. I'm not certain if Sony can manage that even with only three consoles (and having won two of em handily).
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#286 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/25/2011 1:13:21 AM | message detail
Couldn't you technically say that the PlayStation brand console has beaten the Nintendo brand console all three times they're faced off? I mean, the Wii may be more successful commercially, but the PS3 seems to win easily everywhere else.
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#287 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/25/2011 7:45:41 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #286
Couldn't you technically say that the PlayStation brand console has beaten the Nintendo brand console all three times they're faced off? I mean, the Wii may be more successful commercially, but the PS3 seems to win easily everywhere else.


I would be interested to see a direct "Which is the better console, N64 or PS1?" poll at this time. PS1 would be the easy favorite, but considering how big GameFAQs is on old-school Nintendo, maybe the N64 would surprise.

But yeah, the Playstation brand is likely the stronger of the two post-Nintendo, just because Playstation has all the big third-party titles, while Nintendo's console outings aren't nearly as strong third-party wise. Nintendo consoles have, what, Goldeneye and kinda-sorta Resident Evil 4 as strong third-party games?
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#288 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/25/2011 7:52:57 AM | message detail
Except that GoldenEye is a second party game
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#289 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/25/2011 7:53:59 AM | message detail
I've always thought Nintendo was a much stronger brand than Playstation, and the analysts were crazy for ranking Playstation as a much more valuable brand back in 2003. The PS2 was a better console and sold more because it had way more games, not because Playstation was a stronger brand. There's a ton of value associated with the name "Nintendo," not so much with "Playstation." Sony has to rely on having quality games on its consoles; Nintendo evokes strong emotional feelings just by being Nintendo.

An N64 vs. PS1 poll would be very interesting here.
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#290 | LOLContests | Posted 3/25/2011 9:05:00 AM | message detail
I've thought for the past couple of years that N64 would beat PS1 1v1. People like the games on the Playstation more, but there's a ton of loyalty towards the N64 as a console, which is what people would be voting on. Wii would probably have a good shot at taking down X360 or PS3 head to head as well.
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#291 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/25/2011 9:18:48 AM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if the N64 gave the PS1 all it could handle. Some years ago, it may have been a stretch to consider it, but those were the years when RPGs were head and shoulders above everything else, and when you think about it, the PS1 strength lies almost solely on jRPGs + Metal Gear Solid + Symphony of the Night. Everything else that contributed to its 100 million sales - Crash Bandicoot, Gran Turismo, the sports games, Tomb Raider, Spyro, Tekken - they couldn't matter less on GameFAQs. The early Resident Evil games have some strength, but they have been re-released and ported so many times that they have become ubiquitous on Nintendo consoles as well.

The jRPGs (a mighty army indeed)
Metal Gear Solid
Symphony of the Night

vs

Two Zeldas
Mario 64
Goldeneye
Racing and multiplayer games that actually matter
Lesser platformers that may actually have some pop (I wouldn't take Spyro or Crash over Banjo/Conker)

It's not an open-and-shut case by any means.
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#292 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/25/2011 9:30:00 AM | message detail
Oh man, I didn't realize: check out how heavily North America is carrying that top option. It's almost ridiculous.
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#293 | ZFS | Posted 3/25/2011 9:33:58 AM | message detail | (edited)
Up until this gen, the "PlayStation" brand carried significantly more weight than the Nintendo brand did, for sure. Maybe not amongst the hardcore Nintendo fan, but "Nintendo" didn't carry any real significance with consumers after Sony established itself. GameCube was outsold by the Xbox, N64 got rocked by the PS1. Now the GameFAQs audience is something else, and I would almost expect them to side with N64 stuff just because that's what most of them grew up with. Not that they're right - because the N64 sucked! - but I would expect that to be close here. PS2 kills it, though.
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#294 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/25/2011 9:37:12 AM | message detail
Up until this gen, the "PlayStation" brand carried significantly more weight than Nintendo products did. Maybe not among the hardcore Nintendo fan, but "Nintendo" didn't carry any weight with consumers after Sony established itself. GameCube was outsold by the Xbox, N64 got rocked by the PS1. Now the GameFAQs audience is something else, and I would almost expect them to side with N64 stuff just because that's what most of them grew up with. Not that they're right - because the N64 sucked! - but I would expect that to be close here. PS2 kills it, though.

PS1 rocked N64 and PS2 rocked GC because they were just better consoles, not because Sony had a better brand. Do hardcore playstation fans even exist? We have Square fans, MGS fans, and fans for all those myriad games on the Playstation 1/2, but fans who adore the concept of the Playstation, or the company Sony? Not so much.

Nintendo built up its brand name with the NES and SNES, basically building strong emotional with people when they were really young. There was a lot of latent potential there throughout the N64 and GC generations, but ultimately it wasn't going to lead to victory as long as Sony's product was simply way better.
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#295 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/25/2011 9:38:17 AM | message detail
Looking at what Majora's Mask did, I'd be very hesitant to say the N64 gets killed by anything around here. The Zelda game that rides piggyback on OoT went even with the PS2's strongest game. Of course, you have to look at things collectively (any SNES game would get murdered by OoT, but the SNES did pretty well in that first-party poll from last week), but no console is as loaded at the top as the N64 is, and that makes it a big wildcard.
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#296 | ZFS | Posted 3/25/2011 9:49:54 AM | message detail | (edited)
Being a better console helped Sony build a trustworthy brand. PlayStation become synonymous with "video games" in the same way that all old consoles were "Nintendo." Those series like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid were built up on the PlayStation, and that's why they're so heavily associated (or were heavily associated) with Sony. Some of that has changed this gen, but in the same way Nintendo built emotional ties with people who grew up on the NES and SNES, Sony did the same with the PS1 and PS2. There's a good chunk of people who started gaming around that time, who's first console was a PS1, so they have the same sort of tie that Nintendo gained with their fans. Now the audience on GameFAQs today isn't necessarily in that same group, and if they were there's a good possibility they grew up with a N64, but Sony fans, PlayStation fans, there are a lot of them out there, especially today. People love Sony's games these days -- that's why there has been a shift back toward the PS3.
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#297 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/25/2011 9:50:13 AM | message detail
Playstation never became synonymous with video games in the way that Nintendo once was. Final Fantasy and Metal Gear were strong brands, and all those brands on the Playstation together added to a very strong console, but it wasn't tied inherently to the system. There was always plenty of competition in all the generations where Sony won.

N64 did quite well in America, even off Gamefaqs, which is pretty incredible considering how badly the launch was handled.
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#298 | ZFS | Posted 3/25/2011 9:53:38 AM | message detail | (edited)
Oh, it absolutely did. PlayStation was videogames for a good decade.

It significantly expanded the audience of people who play games, the PS brand sold over 250 million systems in that timespan, which is significantly more than Nintendo had done with all its consoles up to that point, and it was the system of choice for basically anyone who played and enjoyed games, casual or hardcore or otherwise.

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#299 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 3/25/2011 9:51:45 AM | message detail

From: Demon HunterX | #280
ulti/albion is an underrated rivalry.


It's a "rivalry" the same way anthills vs lawnmowers is a rivalry.

I'll just have to go back to lurking OT to make sure it stays that way :D
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#300 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/25/2011 9:52:40 AM | message detail
N64 gets killed by one console: the SNES. SNES has dominated every favorite Nintendo console poll, finishing closer to the tripling than the doubling on N64 each time I think.
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