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#51 | voltch | Posted 3/9/2011 1:35:33 PM | message detail
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#52 | AxemPink | Posted 3/9/2011 1:45:58 PM | message detail
The tyranny of Link and his game shall last forever, apparently.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but SAVE US FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE
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#53 | Zylo the wolf | Posted 3/9/2011 1:52:53 PM | message detail
Zerowing released on PSN, Xbla and Virtual Console would end Link's tyranny.

But I agree, a FFVII remake would do wonders for Midgar Zolom.
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#54 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 3:14:26 PM | message detail
Hooray for the continued aging of the site. Chrono Trigger continues forward on its road to victory!
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#55 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 3:17:53 PM | message detail
And yet Chrono Trigger continues to get weaker!
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#56 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 3:19:15 PM | message detail
It's much stronger now than it was in 2007!
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#57 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 3:28:14 PM | message detail
Based on what, exactly?

Oh right, you still believe CTDS actually helped!
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#58 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 3:31:13 PM | message detail
(For the record, I think Crono's victory over Vincent in 2008 was more due to FFVII's dropoff that year than a CT turnaround. Magus and Frog looked worse than ever in 2010, and Crono...

Yeah.)
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#59 | AxemPink | Posted 3/9/2011 3:35:50 PM | message detail
Crono got his best x-stat value ever in 2010, so maybe he's right!
The mobile phone port shall push him to victory over Sephiroth next contest.
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#60 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2011 3:39:23 PM | message detail | (edited)
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3587
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4271

^^^ If anyone had any doubts about the site aging. The first poll isn't even two years old, and the 14-17 year-old group doubled the 26-30 year-olds. Now, the 26-30 year-olds are winning. How often do we ever see such a drastic shift in voting options? Back in 2009 (1.5 years ago), about 48% of the voters were 21+ years old. Today, it's gonna end up over 60%. The percentage of voters in their 30s (31+) has also grown by what looks to be, at a glance, at least a third.

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#61 | AxemPink | Posted 3/9/2011 3:42:09 PM | message detail
...So I've got to ask: is anyone in this topic actually 31 or older?
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#62 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/9/2011 4:50:16 PM | message detail
New hypothetical matches to predict:

Super Metroid vs. Halo: Combat Evolved

Final Fantasy VI vs. Half-Life 2

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater vs. Fallout 3

StarCraft vs. Super Mario Galaxy

Super Mario Sunshine vs. Halo 2

Half-Life vs. Devil May Cry
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#63 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 4:53:19 PM | message detail
About 4 hours into the ASV and 14-17 has already cut off about half 26-30's maximum lead of 2859.
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#64 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 5:00:56 PM | message detail
Based on what, exactly?

Based on how incredibly awful CT did in 2007. Frog got some obscenely low percentage on Samus, Magus got 27% on Mario, and Crono outright lost the ASV to.....Zero. Losing to Vincent was really CT's most impressive match that year.

Frog put up respectable numbers against Bowser last year. Magus.....well Magus continues his freefall.
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#65 | voltch | Posted 3/9/2011 5:03:33 PM | message detail
I like the fact that this site is aging, means we're keeping the users who come here.

Hopefully this means the site will have more "mature" user...

Hey i can hope!
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#66 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 5:07:07 PM | message detail
This isn't related to the boards, but I just saw this on the poll:

Submit your own idea for the Poll of the Day

It links to this page: http://www.gamefaqs.com/contribute/submit_potd.php

Hmm, looks like that page will be replacing the feedback form for submitting polls.


Comeback status as of 7:00 PM:

26-30's lead: 1355
Updates remaining: 60
Votes to take the lead: 22.58
Based on past hour: 27.00 votes per update
Based on past half-hour: 28.16 votes per update

Well, 14-17 is still on track for a successful comeback.
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#67 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2011 5:44:41 PM | message detail
Not too sure about that. It won't dominate as much closer to the end of the poll.
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#68 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 5:48:06 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's going to slow down near the end of the poll as the votes slow down and 14-17 drops off a little bit as the ASV ends.

And I'm already seeing signs that 26-30 is trying to stall 14-17, because 26-30 won its first update against 14-17 during the ASV. After that update, 14-17 gets a 23 vote cut to keep up the pace.
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#69 | Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 3/9/2011 5:49:43 PM | message detail
uhh

are the people voting underage getting banned <_<?
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#70 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 5:52:10 PM | message detail
No one has ever gotten banned for voting for one of the underage options in this poll.
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#71 | PartOfYourWorld | Posted 3/9/2011 5:56:59 PM | message detail

From: Shoenin_Kakashi | #069
uhh

are the people voting underage getting banned <_<?


There's no age limit to vote in the polls, just to create an account.
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#72 | pjbasis | Posted 3/9/2011 5:59:32 PM | message detail

From: voltch | #305
I like the fact that this site is aging, means we're keeping the users who come here.


It also means we're failing to attract new users.

And if votals are any indication, it would seem we're losing users.
#73 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 7:09:30 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #064
Frog put up respectable numbers against Bowser last year.


Looking weaker than Kefka isn't really "respectable" to me. Sure, Kefka had some weird boost last year, but it's certainly not much better than he had been before.

From: AxemPink | #059
Crono got his best x-stat value ever in 2010, so maybe he's right!


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#74 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:14:03 PM | message detail
Looking weaker than Kefka isn't really "respectable" to me. Sure, Kefka had some weird boost last year, but it's certainly not much better than he had been before.

Bowser did well enough last year. I mean, when we're comparing to 2007 Frog......Kefka would wipe the floor with Axel nowadays.
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#75 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:14:58 PM | message detail
I mean, the big thing is Crono/Zero. Crono's never looked so awful before or since that match.
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#76 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 7:21:02 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #074
I mean, when we're comparing to 2007 Frog......Kefka would wipe the floor with Axel nowadays.


Frog probably would, too, though.

I mean, unless we really think 2010 Dante = 2006 Mega Man.
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#77 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:26:45 PM | message detail
Well, 37% on Bowser is better than 26% on Samus. Bowser was at 42% on Mario in 2010.
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#78 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 7:28:09 PM | message detail
Not sure I really trust Charizard's performance on Mario.

Actually, I know I don't trust it.
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#79 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:35:21 PM | message detail | (edited)
Bowser should be worth more than 35% on Samus in any case.

I mean Samus > Mario, but it's not that big a gap.
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#80 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 7:38:07 PM | message detail | (edited)

From: red sox 777 | #079
Bowser should be worth more than 35% on Samus in any case.

I mean Samus > Mario, but it's not that big a gap.


Probably. Zelda got 36.15%, after all.

I'd wager Frog's probably not too far off from the 30% on Samus he got in 2005, honestly.
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#81 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:40:54 PM | message detail
Probably. Zelda got 36.15%, after all.

I'd wager Frog's probably not too far off from the 30% on Samus he got in 2005, honestly.


In that case Frog should be stronger than he was in 2007. 26% to 30% is like 57-43, though in reality it's not that much because Samus probably weakened since 2007 with the Deboost.
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#82 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:44:14 PM | message detail
Actually, even with Magus......he got 41% on someone who got 28% on Link in 2010. In 2007, he got 27% on someone who was worth about 40% on Link. 2007 Link > 2010 Link, but it looks like even Magus didn't drop much from 2007. That was a really really horrible year for CT.
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#83 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 7:46:09 PM | message detail
Does Frog beat Scorpion now?

But regardless, I don't think CT has changed too much since 2007. Maybe a minor improvement, but they're certainly not on the upswing! Sometimes characters just have inexplicably bad years and rebound a little the next year. We've seen it happen with Noble Niners before, like Snake in 2004, Mega Man in 2006, or Sonic in 2008 (well, it's debatable, but he looked better in 2010 than he did in 2008, at least). Heck, maybe even Link from this year was sort of like that and he'll rebound next year.
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#84 | LeonhartFour | Posted 3/9/2011 7:48:55 PM | message detail
The funny thing is that the 2008 stats predicted Alucard/Magus almost perfectly!
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#85 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 7:58:29 PM | message detail
Well, CT hasn't been on the upswing; it had a single boost from CTDS. Recently (since the last character contest), it may be getting an upswing from the site getting dramatically older; the majority of our votals losses seem to have occurred in the months between the 2010 characters and games contests.

I think this age poll is the first time that the median date of birth has actually gone backwards, not just the median age going up.
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#86 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2011 8:11:17 PM | message detail
I wouldn't say that, sure younger people are no longer coming to the site as much, but those people that voted for 14-17 in 2007 (which was the winner) are now voting 18-20 and 21-25 in 2011.

At best Chrono Trigger is stalling out until the next generation shows up.
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#87 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 8:17:36 PM | message detail | (edited)
I mean, you can roughly estimate the median date of birth by looking at the distribution of votes in the age polls. Like, today, it looks like we have a median age around 22 years and 4 months, or a median date of birth around November 1988, give or take a month or two.

Last year it was around 21 years and 2 months, for a median date of birth around January 1989. Before that, you'll find that the median date of birth moved forward steadily each time the poll was held even as the median age moved up.
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#88 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2011 8:36:06 PM | message detail
We're talking a shift of about 2 months, that's pretty much stalling.
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#89 | red sox 777 | Posted 3/9/2011 8:37:45 PM | message detail
It's significant when every time before this, it always moved forward several months.
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#90 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2011 8:41:00 PM | message detail
Still doesn't change the point of Chrono Trigger pretty much stalling until younger people show up like I said.
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#91 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 9:08:47 PM | message detail
I mean, you can roughly estimate the median date of birth by looking at the distribution of votes in the age polls.

I think I would be better to do a weighted average instead. But that requires you to roughly estimate the median age of the average voter in each age group. For 21-25, it seems safe to assume the average age of all 21-25 voters to be near 23 (half-way point between 21 and 25). It wouldn't be possible to get an exact average age for all of the 21-25 voters, because we don't know how many of those voters are 21 right now, how many are 22, and so on for 23, 24, and 25.

I've done weighted average calculations for the past 2 age polls and used these median ages for each age group when doing my calculations:

Under 10 - 9.5
10-13 - 11.5
14-17 - 15.5
18-20 - 19
21-25 - 23
26-30 - 28
31-35 - 33
36-40 - 38
Over 40 - 43

With Under 10 and Over 40, it was an estimated guess. Mostly for the Over 40 group. But there are so few voters above 40 that any estimation for the average age for the "Over 40" group would have little effect on my final calculation.
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#92 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2011 9:15:39 PM | message detail | (edited)
Based on the distribution, I'd predict that the average age of users that picked 21-25 would be closer to 21. Of course like you said there is no clear way to know that for sure.

Or you could also say that the average for 26-30 is closer to 26 since people in their late 20s tend to have jobs/married/kids that would distract them from playing videogames.
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#93 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 9:30:07 PM | message detail
Based on the calculation idea in my above post, here are the average ages for the last 3 age polls:

4/18/2007 - 19.73
8/26/2009 - 21.07
3/29/2010 - 21.54

And today, it is currently at 22.53 (not likely to change by more than 0.02 before this poll ends).
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#94 | charmander6000 | Posted 3/9/2011 9:40:36 PM | message detail
So on average we've been getting the same people for about 2 years now.
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#95 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 3/9/2011 10:06:15 PM | message detail
Keep this Chrono Trigger discussion going on for 8 or so months and I'll actually play the game!
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#96 | LordOfDabu | Posted 3/9/2011 10:10:56 PM | message detail
Probably the best you can do is assume each age range is a line with the ratio of the end points being the same as the ratios of the option above/below.
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#97 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/9/2011 11:26:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
Trend charts for the age poll:

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDNpc3FLVEkwTk1HeVJUbWVhbUpoVVE&gid=2

Night vote hierarchy: 36-40 > Over 40 > 26-30 > 31-35 > 21-25 > 10-13 > 18-20 > 14-17 > Under 10

ASV hierarchy: 10-13 > 14-17 > Under 10 > Over 40 > 36-40 > 31-35 > 18-20 > 26-30 > 21-25

21-25 still has the worst ASV out of all the options. Last year, 26-30 had a slightly better ASV than 18-20. Now 26-30 is slightly worse than 18-20 with the ASV. This could be blamed on 26-30 slowly becoming more dominant on the site.
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#98 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/10/2011 10:03:18 PM | message detail
Hey, my poll idea got used already. I submitted yesterday before Bacon did the contribution queues. Can't believe we've never had a weight poll before while we've had the height poll 3 times in the past.
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#99 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 3/11/2011 7:07:33 AM | message detail
Are you tracking updates? It would be neat to see when the fatasses are most prominent.
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#100 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 3/11/2011 7:29:57 AM | message detail
Of course I am tracking updates on my own poll.

The Geolocation results are already interesting. The US has the highest percentage of people above 250 lbs. Looks like the obesity problem is a big thing in the US.

Based only on the percentages, here's the continent rankings for highest overall weight average to lowest overall weight average:

North America > Europe > Oceania > South America > Asia

Once this poll ends, I'll attempt to do an average for each continent once I know the total number of votes from each continent.
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