GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 994
Yet, would anyone still take the tenth Final Fantasy over the sixth? How far is number eight from number ten? Everyone expects RBY to beat FFX without too much trouble (though a narrow win, perhaps)....but, when considering the match involving Zelda:OoT, MGS, RBY, and FF8... FF8 is expected to get, what, 43% on RBY? (who knows what the actual score would be 1-on-1, at this time) I could bring up more numbers from more matches, but it wouldn't make things any more clear. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you congratulate BLACK TURTLE for winning the Guru Challenge." |
I
think I'd go with FFVI over FFVIII because it's always been the 2nd
strongest Final Fantasy until a little while ago. FFX/FFVI should be a
pretty clear win for X though. --- Congratulations to Guru Champion Black Turtle, who called MM > GSC when most of us were calling it impossible. |
So this next set of FFIV releases and Dissidia 2 will finally get Cecil/Rydia/Kain/SOMEONE FROM FFIV a win, right? All I want is one win... --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png "SEXTON HILLBEAST" - TimJab |
FFX vs. FFVI, I'd probably side with FFX. Well, Link's Awakening could be worth 45% on Majora's Mask, right? I mean, since all the Zelda fans are drones, they should all be relatively close in strength, right? heyooooooooo --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
Pfft. Link's Awakening BEATS Majora's Mask. Link's Awakening for Game of the Decade. --- http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/zukiraphaera/war-sig-1.png "SEXTON HILLBEAST" - TimJab |
Someone let me see the performances FFVI pulled off that imply it could defeat VIII, let alone X. |
Well, Mega Man X vs. Starcraft: Who you got? --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
StarCraft with full confidence --- Currently Playing - Resident Evil 4 Next Games Up - Okami, Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee |
Yet, would anyone still take the sixth Final Fantasy over the tenth? Sorry, I made a typo... I meant to word it this way, since I believe FFX is a clear favorite over FF6 at this point. I think I'd take Starcraft over MMX due to SC2's release.... but of course, when we're talking at the time of BGE 2009.... ehhhh...... Starcraft, I guess.... --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you congratulate BLACK TURTLE for winning the Guru Challenge." |
I'd side with Starcraft back then, too. FFVI got 45.5% on Link to this Past despite LttP being leeched, probably heavily so. FFX probably gets close to that on Link to the Past 1-on-1, right? Hard to say FFVI even has a chance there. More from FFVI vs FFVIII: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Ocarina_of_Time_vs_Pokemon_Red/Blue/Yellow_vs_Metal_Gear_Solid_vs_Final_Fantasy_VIII_2009 Do we trust Final Fantasy VI to do that well on Metal Gear Solid? I wouldn't. Unless we think whatever happened to the Metal Gear Solid sequels last contest is applicable to the first game as well, and who the hell knows what happened there. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
Let's see what that machine has to say about this: StarCraft (2009g) has a strength of 27.17 against Base Link. Mega Man X (2009g) has a strength of 23.68 against Base Link. StarCraft 56.42% 69,651 Mega Man X 43.58% 53,794 TOTAL VOTES 123,445 StarCraft wins with 56.42% of the vote! A 15,857 vote margin of victory. Final Fantasy 8 (2009g) has a strength of 33.87 against Base Link. Final Fantasy 6 (2009g) has a strength of 31.09 against Base Link. Final Fantasy 8 54.10% 70,025 Final Fantasy 6 45.90% 59,401 TOTAL VOTES 129,426 Final Fantasy 8 wins with 54.10% of the vote! A 10,623 vote margin of victory. Hahahahahaha --- Currently Playing - Resident Evil 4 Next Games Up - Okami, Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee |
VI
vs. IX is extremely close according to it, with VI winning by less than
2%, and IIRC FFIX's value doesn't take Chrono Cross's leeching into
account. I'd be leery of putting much value on 4-way x-stats, though. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
X would crush VI. Don't see why it's even debatable. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
Remember
that between the x-stats for '09 and '10, FF9 has one of the biggest
falls between the two of them if you go by games which FF9 finished
ahead of in '09 and behind in '10 and vice versa. So if you want to
take the '10 stats at face value and assume FF9 > FF6...you get what
was once one of this site's supposed favorite games losing to a Batman
game. Oh the irony. Although we could look at the thirteen games which
finished ahead of FF9 in the '10 stats which were below it in the '09
stats: Zelda: Majora's Mask -> Fallout 3 -> Metroid Prime -> Zelda: Wind Waker -> Half-Life 2 -> Shadow of the Colossus -> Metal Gear Solid 2 -> God of War Portal -> Oblivion Tales of Symphonia Grand Theft Auto III Diablo II At least about half of those games seem to have randomly boosted between '09 and '10 or were just handicapped badly in '09 (or both, and yes I did place HL2 in the "boosted" group due to a possible Valve boost). However it's pretty hilarious that the stats have GTAIII > FF9, but also have CC > GTA: SA and LoD > GTAIV. What in the world happened to FF9 to make it not keep up with its GTA counterpart??? (lol GTA anyways. That series sucks, right?) --- Currently Playing - Resident Evil 4 Next Games Up - Okami, Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #114 SFF? Why would you assume FF9 > FF6, though? Pretty clear the hierarchy would be 7 > 10 > 6/8 > 9 > 12. Too lazy to look at the x-stats at the moment to compare the rest, though I'd assume 4 would be around 12's level or maybe a bit above, while 1 would be last in this list but above every other mainline FF besides 13, which again may end up being 12-level. I could be wrong. There's a couple debatable matches to be had in the same series, and Tactics might be interesting to watch against, say, 9, but I don't know why this topic is suddenly saying things like "6 would give 10 a great match" or "Let's assume 9 > 6" other than the usual offseason boredom. We don't have to hit 1000 during the offseason. That said, how would the x-stats look if we assumed WWF No Mercy > Ocarina of Time? --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
From: Not_Wylvane | Posted: 1/23/2011 8:25:44 AM | #115 http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/341/explosionj.jpg --- "Everyone has a plan until they are punched in the face." http://backloggery.com/darkfalconx |
LOL,
I actually worked up the raw X-Stats since I noticed they were still
missing from the wiki, and I couldn't help but wonder if No Mercy
actually wasn't the weakest game in the bracket even though it finished last in the raw X-Stats. After all, it got chained through two SFF beatdowns (DPP over PoR in Round 2 and Brawl over DPP in Round 3). I'm not really sure how to make adjustments, though. Some of my favorite observations about the way things turned out: - 16 games were above 40%. Even given the larger field (16 out of 128 would be just 4 out of 32), that's by far the most ever. This was probably the most even contest yet. - Continuing that thought, if 20% is still considered the fodder line, then only 17 games were considered "fodder" in this contest--one fewer than in Spring 2006, which previously had the fewest. Of course, Spring 2006 only had 32 entrants. Perhaps we need to have fewer Character Battles and more Games Contests. - Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald, the supposed "black sheep" of Pokémon generations, finished ahead of Diamond/Pearl/Platinum. I'm probably one of the only people who thinks that that's how it should be. - It did, on the other hand, finish behind every Grand Theft Auto game in the bracket except for the one it beat in Round 1. - Super Mario Sunshine, which was upset by Halo 3, managed to finish just ahead of Halo 2. - In addition to the games that directly lost to one of their sequels (like Melee and Kingdom Hearts) Devil May Cry and God of War were also outperformed by their sequels. - Three pairs of games were so close as to have the same four-digit X-Stat value, requiring a more exact calculation in order to figure out which order they belonged in, and in all three cases, it was pretty damn close even after adding extra digits. To wit: 82. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 25.238% 83. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 25.237% 56. Borderlands 29.107% 57. Dragon Age: Origins 29.106% And closest of all: 20. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 37.8517% 21. Tales of Symphonia 37.8516% Yeah, that's about as close as it gets. They were on opposite sides of the bracket, too, so their loss chains don't meet up until the very top. What makes this especially interesting is that Oblivion beat Tales of Symphonia twice in the lol 4-ways, both times rather convincingly. Furthermore, the game that ended up knocking Tales out of this contest was God of War, a match that was seemingly set up by SBAllen as a result of Tales just narrowly edging out God of War for second place in that exciting first-round fourway...which Oblivion took first in. So to summarize: God of War can beat Tales of Symphonia straight-up, but came in third to a combination of Oblivion and ToS in a fourway along with San Andreas (which is still the weakest of the four), but Tales is now expected to go more or less 50-50 with Oblivion. While God of War boosting since Spring 2009 seems like a reasonable assumption given the release of God of War III in early 2010, it still suggests that Oblivion has fallen further than Tales of Symphonia. I'm curious as to what would happen if ToS and Oblivion met up 1v1 next time. --- Ulti (in one of his Post-Contest Analyses): God of War turned a 5 hour deadlock into a total laugher Anagram: Oh God, Tidus and Yuna were involved? |
No if I remember correctly God of War was 17th in the x-stats while God of War II was 41st. Also another hilarious thing to point out is that WoW still managed to finish in the top half of the stats. --- Currently Playing - Resident Evil 4 Next Games Up - Okami, Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee |
So which version of John Marston would get more votes: Normal John? http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101028091654/reddeadredemption/images/9/9d/John_Marston.png Or Zombie John? http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/16400000/Zombie-John-john-marston-16451994-455-341.jpg --- Black Turtle. Whatever. |
I think normal John would do better. --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
Oh
my god, it's the email poll again. This was ran back in 2009. I'm so
going to track all 24 hours of poll updates for this one. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Now this is an interesting poll. Last time it was done Yahoo and Gmail were tied in the US while Canada was mostly using hotmail. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4229®ion=CA Canada still refuses to change over to Gmail. Meanwhile, Gmail has a pretty good lead over Yahoo in the US, but that can change later on. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Looks like the US is starting to favour Gmail a lot while Canada still loves its hotmail. Not that surprising, I barely know anyone that uses anything else in Canada. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
I
wonder why Canada loves Hotmail so much? Is it just because the other
email services are total unknowns in Canada, or maybe it's because they
feel the need to have an email address that ends in ".ca"? (possible
with Hotmail, but not Gmail) --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Hotmail is doing about 2-3x better than I would have guessed beforehand. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... someday I'll be... part of your world! |
I
think it's the fads that Canada goes through. MSN was the only way to
talk to people back in the day which meant you needed a hotmail
account. Even if you didn't care about MSN with all of your friends
having Hotmail it makes you want to get one of those. While Gmail
should have caused another fad change with Facebook getting popular not
too long after sort of killed any reason to have a new e-mail address
so now there's no reason for people to switch. As for younger kids they
only need an e-mail address so they can join Facebook and since
everyone has Hotmail they have no reason to look for other options. It's a bit weird since the same thing was happening in US though you guys used AIM, I guess like I said we just never caught on to the Gmail fad. Another example here's the Facebook/Myspace poll. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3444 Taking a look at Canada you see MySpace is non-existent. It wasn't because we didn't know about it, in fact it was mention many times everywhere including news, tv shows etc. The site just didn't caught on and really you need a group of people joining at one time for it to spread since no one wants to join something where none of your friends are on, especially with social networking. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Taking
a look at Canada you see MySpace is non-existent. It wasn't because we
didn't know about it, in fact it was mention many times everywhere
including news, tv shows etc. What social networking site did Canada prefer in the days prior to Facebook being opened to the public? For the first several years of Facebook's life, it was restricted to college students so Canada couldn't use it unless they were in college and had a valid college email. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I'm surprised the misc. options aren't doing better. People don't use their school e-mails most often? --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
What
social networking site did Canada prefer in the days prior to Facebook
being opened to the public? For the first several years of Facebook's
life, it was restricted to college students so Canada couldn't use it
unless they were in college and had a valid college email. There wasn't one, it was MSN then Facebook. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
The email poll back in 2009 showed very strong regional trends when it comes to the US. The Northeast greatly prefers Gmail. The South prefers Yahoo. Hotmail does best in the Midwest and Rocky Mountain states. The West prefers Gmail, with the exception of California (in favor of Yahoo) and Alaska (Hotmail). Now that the first hour is over with, Gmail is up 698 already on Hotmail. In the 2009 email poll, Gmail was barely leading Hotmail at the end of the first hour. At this rate, Gmail should get over a 1000 vote lead before Hotmail starts to regularly win updates overnight and that will be enough to survive the night vote without losing the lead to Hotmail. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
It took about 400 votes for Touchscreen to get its first vote. Anyways, trends for yesterday's email poll: http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDU3eVV2bDZJSkdNcmpZRHhHQzFyR2c&gid=1 Gmail held up better overnight this time around and managed to win the first 4 hours against Hotmail. Gmail never lost a single update to Hotmail until 3:06 AM. Gmail managed to hit a max lead of 1166 overnight before Hotmail would cut about 400 off the lead with the night vote and early morning. By 8:00 AM, Gmail was stalling Hotmail all the way until about 1:00 PM before it started making a serious push to increase its lead. ASV favored Gmail and Yahoo here, while Hotmail collapsed with the ASV. Night Vote hierarchy: Free email service > Hotmail > Paid email service > ISP email > Yahoo! Mail > Gmail > AOL Mail ASV hierarchy: AOL Mail > Yahoo! Mail > Gmail > Paid email service > ISP email > Hotmail > Free email service --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
I got a prize? How nice. Gonna use it to try to preorder Demonbane. Wish me luck. --- Black sheep? More like Black Turtle beating down the gurus. |
My Geolocation observations on the e-mail poll: Gmail seems to be consistently popular across the U.S., although it's most popular in the Mid-Atlantic (only scattered support in New England really, mostly MA), and slightly less popular in a scattered fashion in the South, where Yahoo seems to be most popular. The most interesting thing I noticed however, was that once you cross the Mississippi, Hotmail becomes much more popular, mostly at the expense of Yahoo. Except California, which in a huge aberration for the region, goes for Yahoo. I assume the reason behind this has to do with MSN's regional dominance in certain areas, and it not being able to get as strong a foothold in California for some reason. Can anyone from the area confirm this? --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Black Turtle beat me, Yesmar in the Fall 2010 Guru Contest! |
this poll is like an 8 way with link, 6 jay solanos and zelda in pointing device form --- "I submitted brackets on all [224] of my accounts so they would get the 10 free Karma for beating SBAllen's score." - Luster Soldier |
On
1/30/2011, there will be a "Which scheduled February release are you
most looking forward to?" poll. As expected, we will be seeing MvC3
domination. Other than that, I have no idea what poll will be run on
1/29/2011 and 2/1/2011. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Mario Sports Mix was fighting for second for a while there. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
MAHVEL BAYBEE --- ~Zen switched to Chrome, 'cuz Firefox sucks. Unlike Firefox, however, BlAcK TuRtLe doesn't suck at all! |
I...feel the need to bump. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Nominate E P O N A. |
XD,
this is a strange poll. I had to think about what I wanted to vote for
first and realized that "feb-yoo-wair-ee" wasn't one of the available
options, so I had to pick "None of the above". --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
Wow,
good vote totals so far on this poll. Vote totals were worst in the
first minute, but the last 4 minutes of the board vote had higher vote
totals than the first minute. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
These types of polls where anyone can answer does well. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Wow. I didn't know so many people pronounced February incorrectly. --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
I know it's about half. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Bump --- BlAcK TuRtLe crushed my bracket and it didn't even take three days. Congrats to BlAcK TuRtLe for winning the GotD Guru Contest! |
Polls for the next 2 days: 2/4/2011 - How many hours a day do you watch some kind of screen (TV, monitor, cell phone, game system)? 2/5/2011 - Who do you think will win the Super Bowl? F*** yeah, a Super Bowl poll. There hasn't been a Super Bowl poll since 2007, so the Geolocation results will be quite interesting for the countries outside the US. Along with the fact that the poll will have very terrible support outside of the US. For this poll, I'm hoping for a direct match between the 2 teams. I don't want a poll that looks like this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2651 Or a poll that has a "I don't care" option either. I'm hoping for a poll that has just 2 options, so I can see how the 2 teams perform in a direct match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
From: -LusterSoldier- | #146 I like such polls too, but more because it always leads to people whining because "WAH, I DON'T WATCH FOOTBALL AND I MUST VOTE IN EVERY GAMEFAQS POLL EVER, YOU SHOULD ADD A "DON'T CARE" OPTION SO I DON'T HAVE TO RANDOMLY CHOOSE ONE OF TWO OPTIONS!" God, those people were hilariously pathetic. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
So...I should try to get an HDTV once I go to America or something? I don't even know if my current TV is an HDTV. --- Currently Playing - Resident Evil 4 Next Games Up - Okami, Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee |
Speaking of pronunciation, how do you pronounce "twelfth"? Do you pronounce all 5 consonantal sounds: t, w, l, f, th? I think this word is basically impossible for a native Chinese speaker to say. --- Congratulations to Guru Champion Black Turtle, who called MM > GSC when most of us were calling it impossible. |
Yes, I do. --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
