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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/9/2011 7:09:25 AM | message detail
Oh there is no way SSFIV beats DKCR. I wouldn't even take Reach to beat DKCR, adjusting for SSF though.

First, you make the mistake of assuming Monster Hunter Tri is weak. It sold well, got great reception, and has very strong running online support. There's even evidence of its strength here by it being the site's number one game for some time, and staying pretty up there even with competition like FFXIII and Galaxy 2 later on. Furthermore, it was also riding quite a bit SFF. But it would still kick the crap out of SSFIV. Rereleases are just weak here. Look at Okami Wii, for instance, it lost to No More Heroes, but then Okami stomped it in the GotD poll.

Secondly, Super Meat Boy. The fact that a downloadable game has as high as 6% is pretty telling that a poll's completely weak. For instance, let's take two downloadable games that are probably the two stronest, likely above Super Meat Boy: Braid and World of Goo.

Look at this poll:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3360

Both have 5% and are getting destroyed... by LittleBigPlanet. Which is completely weak. Yep/ Now, granted, there's no RDR equivalent in that poll, but it's still pretty telling as to how ridiculously weak downloadable titles are. Among original downloadable games, those two are right at the top, and there they get demolished even worse than Super Meat Boy and Pac-Man in a poll filled with weak games. Sure, that poll didn't have any really strong games, but it still probably averages to stronger than this one! Everything in this poll except for RDR and ME2 is pathetic. You say ME2 would get about 44% with RDR's removal, and that seems like a good number, but the problem is that this poll without RDR might be even weaker than the hilarious 360 one.

Furthermore, SMG2 might not have a strong 2nd place, but it does have a lot of somewhat strong games SFFing it.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 7:37:24 AM | message detail
On some issues:

-Brawl was bigger at the time of its release than Melee was at the time of its release, true. But Brawl basically fizzled out on half the Internet after 0.5-1 years, while Melee...took some time to build up steam, but from 2003 onwards it is still going on strong...though to be fair part of my argument comes from professional websites. For example GameReactor (or whatever site it was) did a feature where they named the best two games on every console back in 2008, and they named Melee the best GameCube game while Brawl wasn't even the 2nd best Wii game. Similarly, in IGN's Best of the Decade feature, Melee made the top 5 of 2001 while Brawl didn't even make the top 10 of 2010. So I guess the conclusion is that most people prefer Brawl, while only hardcore Smash fans and isolated pockets of professional gaming websites prefer Melee. But I've heard people like Ulti say that GameFAQs is supposed to be the watering hole for real gamers...and Brawl > Melee is about the only case where it ISN'T true. Also just for the fun of it I'll post what I remember of that "best on every console" list:

NES - Super Mario 3 > Mega Man 2
SNES - Zelda: Link to the Past > Super Metroid
N64 - Super Mario 64 > GoldenEye
GameCube - Smash Bros. Melee > Metroid Prime
Wii - Super Mario Galaxy > Wii Sports
PlayStation - Final Fantasy VII > Metal Gear Solid
PS2 - GTA: San Andreas > Okami
PS3 - Metal Gear Solid 4 > LittleBigPlanet
Xbox - Halo 2 > Star Wars: KOTOR
Xbox 360 - Gears of War > Rock Band
'90s PC - Half-Life > StarCraft
'00s PC - World of Warcraft > The Sims
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 7:43:46 AM | message detail
Also I forgot to mention this, but Super Meat Boy should be stronger than Braid.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/9/2011 8:04:05 AM | message detail
If Brawl truly fizzled out it would have lost to Melee, but not going deeper into that it doesn't change that Brawl was the bigger release. Again just because a game was a bigger release doesn't mean it'll be more popular. I would argue that some of the biggest releases in gaming this decade would be Halo 3 and Modern Warfare 2 and we all know how strong those games were.


But I've heard people like Ulti say that GameFAQs is supposed to be the watering hole for real gamers...and Brawl > Melee is about the only case where it ISN'T true.

Actually it is true. I would argue that almost every major gaming website would be closer to IGN's result than our result. I argued before this contest that this being GameFAQs would probably be Melee's best chance at winning other than on some tourney Smash fan site.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 8:19:42 AM | message detail
So I guess Brawl is the favorite of the masses, while Melee is just the favorite of professional gaming websites and loud fans.

What a world.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/9/2011 8:22:01 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #153
Also I forgot to mention this, but Super Meat Boy should be stronger than Braid.


...Why?

Super Meat Boy really isn't much compared to Braid or World of Goo in terms of media attention and public awareness, in fact it may even be less well-known than Limbo. It's up there among downloadable games, sure, but even if it were slightly stronger than Braid, it's still just a downloadable game and those are terrible here unless they have an established franchise to leech off of.

Upon reflection though even without RDR this weak poll would still be a titan compared to the 360 one. Alan Wake>SSFIV and possibly Limbo>Super Meat Boy, but the 360 poll had a Yu-Gi-Oh game as one of the stronger entrants and Ninety-Nine-Nights 2, a game with universally bad reviews, called the worst game of the year on some sites, in the poll. Hell, people only even know about that one because of either how bad it is, or Konami's "brilliant" press conference spawning a bunch of memes(extreeeeeeme).
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 8:25:20 AM | message detail
Braid is more of an artful game just like Ico while Super Meat Boy is actually a huge 2D platformer with loads of playable characters. It's more this site's cup of tea.

*looks at how well Ico, Okami, and SotC did in the previous contest*

I take my words back.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/9/2011 8:52:46 AM | message detail
I always love the "LS vs the whole thread" debates. Either way, they come out looking funny as hell, especially when using results from a Nintendo SFF multi-poll.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/9/2011 9:25:06 AM | message detail
Let us not fall into the realms of popularity fallacy here.

Also Not_Wylvane is not the entire thread anyway. >_>
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transience | Posted 1/9/2011 10:08:57 AM | message detail
okay so

Pokemon HG/SS
GTA: Chinatown Wars
Kingdom Hearts: Birth By Sleep
Starcraft 2
God of War 3
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Halo Reach
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood
Mass Effect 2

assuming no other categories, I'm thinking ME2 > AssBro > Halo Reach > Galaxy 2 > Pokemon > Starcraft 2 > KH > GOW3 > GTA. that's a pretty strong poll, really. even the PC, DS and PSP games have some claim to strength thanks to being from big series'. I could see Pokemon doing really well here.
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/9/2011 2:38:14 PM | message detail
God of War 3 won't be that weak. It should have no problem beating the handhelds at the very least and it'll likely defeat other games as well.
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AxemPink | Posted 1/9/2011 3:18:03 PM | message detail
...AssBro.
Best nickname ever.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/9/2011 6:52:45 PM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #159
Also Not_Wylvane is not the entire thread anyway. >_>


If only I were!
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/9/2011 6:53:57 PM | message detail
Reach vs GoW3

Which will do better?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 7:08:50 PM | message detail
GoWIII.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/9/2011 8:11:49 PM | message detail
This poll pretty much went how I expected. I thought Just Cause 2 and Super Meat Boy would do a little better, though.

Still though, I could see Meat Boy himself doing pretty well in a Character Battle!

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transience | Posted 1/9/2011 8:23:30 PM | message detail
Reach.
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transience | Posted 1/9/2011 8:24:45 PM | message detail
though GOW3 might do it just because there's no real PS3 game there besides AssBro. I can see Brotherhood doing pretty well thanks to ME2's pseudo-exclusivity.
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ZFS | Posted 1/9/2011 8:49:17 PM | message detail
Brotherhood upset incoming

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/9/2011 9:01:37 PM | message detail
LOLightning Strikes again
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:01:39 PM | message detail
I knew RDR could've won if it was in the first poll.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 9:01:58 PM | message detail
Come on ME2!

And don't let FFXIII catch up to RDR or ACB!
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charmander6000 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:03:00 PM | message detail
FFXIII sore thumbing its way to second.
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ZFS | Posted 1/9/2011 9:03:39 PM | message detail
FFXIII over Brotherhood get this out

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FFDragon | Posted 1/9/2011 9:04:25 PM | message detail
go my mass effect 2
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transience | Posted 1/9/2011 9:04:57 PM | message detail
FF13'd

franchise voting at its best right there. put more good options in and FF13 probably does even better. if this somehow makes the final GOTY poll, it could end up in second or third pretty easily.
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LOLContests | Posted 1/9/2011 9:05:30 PM | message detail
FFXIII clawing its way to that final GOTY poll.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/9/2011 9:05:50 PM | message detail
As long as ME2 wins, all is right in the world.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 1/9/2011 9:05:55 PM | message detail
Now this is more like what I was expecting out of ME2 after ME's contest performance. Much better than yesterday.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 9:06:12 PM | message detail
Then what the hell happened in FFXIII's first poll?
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Pacmantis | Posted 1/9/2011 9:06:35 PM | message detail
Wow, ME2

Mordin must get into the next character battle.
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Blairville | Posted 1/9/2011 9:07:48 PM | message detail
Holy SFF Batman! Poor AC.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/9/2011 9:10:24 PM | message detail
2%+ drop for ME2 there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 1/9/2011 9:10:49 PM | message detail
Makes sense. FF13 fans wouldn't enjoy good games.

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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/9/2011 9:12:54 PM | message detail
Man, I can't wait to see how Shepard does in the next CB. Sparks are gonna fly, that's for sure!

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charmander6000 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:13:00 PM | message detail
FFXIII is 1% higher now than it was in its previous poll. Sure we only have 7 options now, but ME2/RDR/SFIV >>> bottom six options in poll 1.
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transience | Posted 1/9/2011 9:13:47 PM | message detail
ME2 was out last character battle,

now after the PS3 ME2 and ME3, that's another story. he could be way up there. too bad he's customizable.

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AxemPink | Posted 1/9/2011 9:15:24 PM | message detail
Final Fantasy drones.
That is all!
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ZFS | Posted 1/9/2011 9:15:36 PM | message detail
brotherhood comeback

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UOTY2011 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:16:29 PM | message detail
go my assesens
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:17:01 PM | message detail
So...

Lightning vs. Rikku, who ya got?
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paulg235 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:17:16 PM | message detail
Dat board vote... sucks
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paulg235 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:18:06 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #191
So...

Lightning vs. Rikku, who ya got?


Rikku, because even though Rikku is a terrible, terrible character, 10 >> >`13.
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Menji76 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:20:15 PM | message detail
Glad to see FF13 do well in a fairer poll!

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swordz9 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:20:21 PM | message detail
I'd take Rikku since FFX is a lot more popular. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think Shepard will get entirely too much stronger even with ME2 on the PS3 and ME3 coming out. He lost to Pikachu last time right?
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UOTY2011 | Posted 1/9/2011 9:26:52 PM | message detail
No one likes ME for Shepard

He is easily the worst character in both games
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 1/9/2011 9:28:47 PM | message detail
I think Lightning would take Rikku pretty easily. We've seen popular characters come from games nobody liked plenty of times. Dante/DMC being the foremost example. Characters just need a high play rate, and FFXIII definitely has that.
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ZFS | Posted 1/9/2011 9:28:55 PM | message detail
Uh, no he isn't. Not by a longshot.

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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/9/2011 9:29:17 PM | message detail
ME2 was out last character battle,

True, but it was a very new release when CB '10 rolled around. It's had a lot more time to sink in now, and it'll also have an extra system and a highly-anticipated sequel to its credit.

Lightning vs. Rikku, who ya got?

Rikku wins pretty easily, in my opinion.

He lost to Pikachu last time right?

Yeah, but Pikachu isn't a slouch by any means! Sprite-round hijinks or not, he still managed to score almost 45% against Snake.

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XxSoulxX | Posted 1/9/2011 9:32:07 PM | message detail
Rikku would beat Lightning easily. FFXIII isn't liked. Don't let this poll fool you (it is the only jRPG game in this poll).
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