GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 993
TheCodeisBosco | Posted 1/8/2011 8:31:03 PM | message detail |
C/D: Sonic would double Lightning in a rematch. --- Nominate CRAZY DAVE (PLANTS VS. ZOMBIES) for Character Battle '11! If you don't, a bungee zombie will kidnap you. That'd suck, wouldn't it? |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 8:48:25 PM | message detail |
Deny I thought Other M hype was the reason why Samus and Ridley did so well in the contest and why Metroid Prime got a 1 seed, and thus I thought it would backfire in the GotD contest due to Other M's tepid reception. Look how correct that turned out to be. FFXIII is only losing because AC is a strong franchise on this site. It'll toast Black Ops in a year or so. After all, the stats have FFXII laying down total destruction against MW2 (probably even breaking 60%, no?), and there is zero reason to believe that Black Ops will be stronger than MW2 in a even half a year. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
SuperAngelo128 | Posted 1/8/2011 8:49:44 PM | message detail |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #102 pretty dumb logic --- ~ Ange no black turtle bullying topic i see. feels wrong, board viewing experience feels lesser |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 8:51:15 PM | message detail |
Other
M was the most aggressively advertised game in the series and Prime got
a 1 seed during last contest, when Other M was released during the
nomination period. Can't be a coincidence. Imagine if Shadow of the Colossus was swapped with Halo or Half-Life 2. Oh my. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
SuperAngelo128 | Posted 1/8/2011 8:58:53 PM | message detail |
Other M is not Metroid Prime --- ~ Ange no black turtle bullying topic i see. feels wrong, board viewing experience feels lesser |
695924 | Posted 1/8/2011 9:01:26 PM | message detail |
ME2 GOTY --- lol opinions |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 1/8/2011 9:06:34 PM | message detail |
ME2
isn't destroying this group as badly as I was expecting. Still probably
the favorite, but I think the door is open for a possible SMG2/GoW3
upset. --- Black Turtle and Zelda always win! |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/8/2011 9:18:32 PM | message detail |
SSF4 third place? I'll take it --- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 1/8/2011 9:19:50 PM | message detail |
ME2 isn't destroying this group as badly as I was expecting. What? RDR is the only thing even remotely close. This poll is going pretty much exactly like anyone should have anticipated. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists? |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/8/2011 9:21:43 PM | message detail |
From: Lieutenant Kettch | #107 Are you looking at the same match I am? Or did you simply forget to factor in that RDR is also a strong game that got rave reviews and great fan support, as well as sweeping GotY awards all over? ME2's a decent bit over RDR at any rate. Those two games are just cleaning house, and I think ME2 has clinched the GameFAQs 2010 GotY, and a well-deserved win at that. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/8/2011 9:21:48 PM | message detail |
*votes* http://h-3.abload.de/img/211qvyuvdcl.gif http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIPWYF_G15M --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... Turtle own me... in the Guru! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/8/2011 9:26:06 PM | message detail |
Mass
Effect 2 is getting over 56% on the critically acclaimed multi-million
seller that had an extra system. I thought these were the two strongest
games of the year, and even if there is something else better than RDR,
it won't touch ME2. Mario has to really harness the Nintendo fanbase to
have a shot. --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... Turtle own me... in the Guru! |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 1/8/2011 9:30:22 PM | message detail |
RDR isn't gonna be in the final poll, is it? Just makes ME2's GotY more of a lock. --- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/8/2011 9:32:58 PM | message detail |
Probably not. Just counting the poll winners, we've got nine games in already. lol Chinatown Wars is gonna make it over RDR. WHO'S YOUR BREADWINNER, ROCKSTAR --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... Turtle own me... in the Guru! |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 1/8/2011 9:35:45 PM | message detail |
Are
you looking at the same match I am? Or did you simply forget to factor
in that RDR is also a strong game that got rave reviews and great fan
support, as well as sweeping GotY awards all over? ME2's a decent bit
over RDR at any rate. Well, it's risen almost 3% after the freeze, so looking much better now. --- Black Turtle and Zelda always win! |
Menji76 | Posted 1/8/2011 9:38:32 PM | message detail |
Guarantee there will be a Day 3 poll tomorrow with the top 4 games from each multi-platform poll. --- Menji~ AlecTrevelyan006 stole my ball. So much for good fundamentals. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 1/8/2011 9:41:16 PM | message detail |
We got 10 entries in the first final poll last year, so I imagine tomorrow we'll get new IP and that'll be end of it. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Black Turtle win to happen. 5,000 dead brackets. Want that on your damn conscience, Zelda apologists? |
paulg235 | Posted 1/8/2011 9:45:36 PM | message detail |
From: TheCodeisBosco | #101 Sonic probably now 65-35's her and will miss the doubling, so Disagree. I do, however, expect Lightning to dissapoint, next contest. She'll probably lose to MC. --- The Gamer In Me Black Turtles attract the Angry Moon. Beware! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/8/2011 9:52:56 PM | message detail |
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/8/2011 9:57:10 PM | message detail |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 1/9/2011 12:32:58 AM | message detail Probably not. Just counting the poll winners, we've got nine games in already. lol Chinatown Wars is gonna make it over RDR. The big issue is that we still need to do the Best Downloadable Game and the Best New Original Title polls, so that could bring the number of games in the first GotY poll up to 11 games. In the past, Bacon has never had more than 10 games in a GotY poll. The only possible way to have 10 games in the GotY poll is for the winner of the Best New Original Title to be a game that already won an earlier poll. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as BlAcK TuRtLe, Guru Champ! |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 10:00:44 PM | message detail |
I think Galaxy 2 can handle RDR. Also I think Galaxy 2 will be stronger than Galaxy 1. Its release timing is far better for GameFAQs (Galaxy 1 was released a few months before Brawl, while Galaxy 2 was released before Skyward Sword was officially announced). --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/8/2011 10:06:02 PM | message detail |
I
don't see SMG2 being anywhere above the original. SMG was released when
the Wii was loved and the game itself was huge, SMG2 was released when
the Wii wasn't cared about and the game came and went. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
Big Bob | Posted 1/8/2011 10:21:19 PM | message detail |
So...Super Meat Boy's doing alright for itself. Best downloadable title go! ...yes, that's the only poll I care about. --- Black Turtle. Whatever. |
AxemPink | Posted 1/8/2011 10:23:33 PM | message detail |
...Wait, does that mean Super Meat Boy is going to get 2 chances to make the overall Game of the Year poll? --- Black turtle beat me, o noes! |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 10:25:00 PM | message detail |
On at least three-quarters of the Internet, the following games basically came and went away: Brawl (alive for half a year, then bye-bye) Twilight Princess (probably alive for two years, then bye-bye) MGS4 (alive for one year, then bye-bye) If Kingdom Hearts 2 is the strongest game in that series, why can't Galaxy 2 be stronger than Galaxy 1? Also Galaxy 2 is still winning plenty of GOTY awards, from sites like Edge and Destructoid. I can't see how that's "came and went". --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 10:29:21 PM | message detail |
Also
off-topic: I personally think that Majora's Mask > Final Fantasy X
was legit, and that it was bandwagoned against Brawl, just like Fallout
3 was. Again, just imagine if you placed Shadow of the Colossus in the top quarter of the GotD bracket. It might actually get out of there alive, and just imagine how much it would get bandwagoned against Fallout 3. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 10:29:35 PM | message detail |
I meant against Brawl! --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 10:30:50 PM | message detail |
Also
char same thing could be said about SSBM against SSBB. When SSBM was
released it was huge. SSBB just felt like it came and went by
comparison. Yet look which game is stronger on GameFAQs. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/8/2011 10:32:49 PM | message detail |
If
the awards are given by reviewers then there's your answer those guys
tend to not forget as easily. On the internet SMG2 was huge for about a
month at best. As for KH2 > KH, KH2 is actually the better game. Yeah I went there. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/8/2011 10:34:04 PM | message detail |
Brawl was much huger than Melee, I'm not sure where you're getting that. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 11:03:22 PM | message detail |
No it wasn't. Brawl was hyped more, is more mainstream, and has more critical acclaim, but that's it. At least that's how it feels to me. Melee didn't have much hype and didn't earn so much critical acclaim but those who loved it REALLY loved it, and it was quite a big game for a few years. For example, both Dorkclub in 2003 and GamePro in 2005 placed Melee among the 10 best games ever. On the other hand, I've yet to see Brawl reach any of those heights. Take a look at this article from GameReactor from 2008: http://www.gamesradar.com/f/the-greatest-game-on-every-platform/a-20090127132418358010 Melee is the best GameCube game, while Brawl isn't even the 2nd best Wii game. And that's how it personally feels to me too. Melee feels like it could be the best GameCube game (and I doubt this'll change much after I play through RE4), while Brawl does NOT feel like it could be the best Wii game. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
charmander6000 | Posted 1/8/2011 11:06:29 PM | message detail |
No it wasn't. Brawl was hyped more, is more mainstream, and has more critical acclaim, but that's it. Which makes Brawl the bigger release which is what we're talking about. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls Congratulations to Black Turtle for winning the guru contest. |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/8/2011 11:25:03 PM | message detail |
The
latter two don't matter at all, and the former is just hype. People
cared more for Melee longer after its release than they did for Brawl
after its release, and people still seem to care about Melee more.
Aside from the aforementioned link I just posted, when IGN set out to
do its "Best of the Decade" feature, Melee was in the top 5 of 2001
while Brawl wasn't even in the top 10 of 2008. Lol Brawl. On the other side of this, I don't by SmartVoterFAQs at all. Otherwise Halo would've easily broken 40% on Fallout 3, and MGS2 wouldn't have lost to SotC. And no, MGS2 was one of the oldest and most important games present in last contest (usually considered to be the first postmodern video game and demonstrating that it was okay to have such a convoluted plot), even being oft-cited as a prime example of artistic expression in video games just like SotC is. Sounds like SmartVoterFAQs bait for me. And I don't believe in any "Game of the Decade" boost either. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
pjbasis | Posted 1/9/2011 12:33:23 AM | message detail |
From: LinkMarioSamus | #653 Well one of them had to win! |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 12:39:50 AM | message detail |
But SotC can't claim being one of the oldest or one of the most influential games of the decade. Also which games do you guys think were bandwagoned during the contest? I can cite both Majora's Mask and Fallout 3 against Brawl with confidence, and do you guys think SotC was bandwagoned or is it actually as strong as MGS2/3/4? Just to say something silly, Fallout 3 underperformed stat expectations against Metroid Prime by about 4%, but overperformed against Brawl by about 10%. Haha. Also predict this division: (1) Super Mario Galaxy (16) Resident Evil: Code Veronica (8) Assassin's Creed II (9) Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening (5) God of War (12) Devil May Cry (4) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (13) Fable (3) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves (14) Thief II: The Metal Age (6) LittleBigPlanet (11) Silent Hill 2 (7) Valkyria Chronicles (10) Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn (2) Metroid Prime (15) Vagrant Story --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 1/9/2011 3:18:53 AM | message detail |
Man how can RDR not be in the final poll for GOTY?Seriously. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 3:28:32 AM | message detail |
By getting placed in the same poll as ME2. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
Ultimaphazon | Posted 1/9/2011 5:19:36 AM | message detail |
C/D: RDR would have won yesterday's poll. I think I'd say C. --- Black_Turtle may not have won GotD, but he's still a better predictor than the rest of us. Congrats to Skyward Sword, GotD 2020 winner |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/9/2011 5:26:56 AM | message detail |
I think it would have. --- Currently Playing - Star Fox 64, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/9/2011 5:44:29 AM | message detail |
Definite C. RDR would've smoked the rest of them. Brawl had a ton more hype and sold a ton more than Melee on a much more popular system. I think it's easy to say that Brawl is the bigger release, no matter how much you don't like it, LMS. Anyone else hoping SS gets delayed to 2012 so ME2 has a shot of winning the 2011 GotY as well? --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/9/2011 5:47:47 AM | message detail |
SMG2 got dis RDR is very strong and all, but it's more the fact that they can't do better on such weak competition. I mean, a downloadable title's in fourth! Also charmander, you talk about Wii hate a lot, but I disagree. It shouldn't affect the games. The reason I say this is because the Wii has won 3/4 GotYs this generation despite the hate, and one of those was in 2008 when the Wii was more hated than it is now(E3 2008, WiiFit, stuff like that and no games in the latter half ot the year). Furthermore, that game was Brawl, a game that gets haters in its own right. Frankly ME2 would have had to looked like a total monster to confirm itself as the winner, but honestly it's not looking much better than GoW3. Could still take it though, maybe. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
UOTY2011 | Posted 1/9/2011 6:00:16 AM | message detail |
I'm the one who told Ngamer to tell Sballen to put Just Cause 2 and Super Meat Boy in the poll today so that's ~all me~ --- _foolmo_ 'Most people at least try to say something funny. See foolmo's post as an example.' - The Real Truth |
HaRRicH | Posted 1/9/2011 6:07:00 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #140 Bingo, not to mention we've seen on two major websites now that SSBB > SSBM by the people (GameFAQs and IGN, where SSBB beat SSBM and SSB combined). The tournament-scene is the only "big" sect we've seen to generally favor SSBM > SSBB, and we've been calling into question how big that sect is for awhile. --- First with SSBB > SMG in 2009, then with the GotD-contest: BT owned me once again. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/9/2011 6:08:12 AM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #141 RDR, the second-place game, is currently getting 68.67% on the third-place game, SSF4. You're the only person who thinks this is a disappointing performance. This is two strong games blowing out the competition. Take out RDR, and ME2 would just look beastly. Hell, ME2 is currently outperforming Galaxy 2's performance in the Wii poll despite much stronger competition. You might as well predict that Reach will win GotY since it broke 45% in its poll. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/9/2011 6:12:08 AM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #143 The tournament sect isn't that big, probably a few thousand people at most. Wasn't enough to influence the GameFAQs match, at any rate. Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of the Melee voters genuinely like Brawl and just preferred Melee because of nostalgia or gameplay or something. I'm still not convinced there's a huge hatred of Brawl on GameFAQs. Fallout had every reason to do as well as it did, from a new game to being underrated in four-ways, while MM obviously had a bandwagon coming in from its unexpected upset over FFX. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/9/2011 6:15:58 AM | message detail |
Brawl
was definitely bigger than Melee. Bigger =/= better-liked. Bigger has
everything to do with hype, and Melee's release had very little hype
while Brawl was the most hyped game since OOT (well, maybe some of the
Halo games). Melee got doubled by FFX in the 2001 GOTY poll here, and I
don't remember it becoming really big until 2003-4 or so. --- Congratulations to Guru Champion Black Turtle, who called MM > GSC when most of us were calling it impossible. |
UOTY2011 | Posted 1/9/2011 6:18:55 AM | message detail |
It's not the tournament player that gave Melee all those votes in its match against Brawl It's the poser-tournament players. You know, the ones that are nowhere good enough to play for money, but like to pretend they are regardless, going to parties and forcing people to play 4-stock Final Destination even though it's completely inconvenient for the setting. And then losing. Those are the people that voted for Melee, and that Gamefaqs has a much higher concentration of compared to real life. --- _foolmo_ 'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 1/9/2011 6:25:16 AM | message detail |
From: Not_Wylvane | #144 Completely misunderstanding my point. You see I don't see this as stronger competition. The last poll, on average, was probably stronger. But not this one. Here you've got a bunch of weak games, and two really strong ones. The fact that SMG2 and ME2 are putting up comparable percentage is in my eyes a strike against ME2, especially given all the SFF that happened in the Wii poll. I mean ME2 and RDR look great, but look beyond that. SSFIV a remake, is in third, and we all know how those do, and you've got a downloadable game in fourth. Unless you think Super Meat Boy could beat the majority of the Wii poll(including, for instance, Other M, which got a similar % to Super Meat Boy) there's no way this poll is on average stronger, RDR or not, and that's why ME2 is disappointing. Now that we've actually seen the polls, there wasn't really any reason for the multi-platform poll to be split in two. Just take the top 7 from the first one and the top 3 from this one and you've got a regular poll that doesn't lose anything significant. The last poll was OK, but outside of the top two here, this poll's pathetic. Also you know what the real crime is? No Deadly Premonition yesterday. Now yo're probably thinking, "but that game was terrible". And you're right. But that's what makes it so brilliant, and entirely deserving of a spot on the poll. Which is why I suggest the following: Francis York Morgan for CB2011. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
red sox 777 | Posted 1/9/2011 6:26:19 AM | message detail |
Or that, you know, simply have more fun with 1v1s than 4-ways. --- Congratulations to Guru Champion Black Turtle, who called MM > GSC when most of us were calling it impossible. |
Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/9/2011 6:47:47 AM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #149 Oh snap. From: Lightning Strikes | #148 I can easily see SSF4 beating DKCR, and that alone would make ME2 a bigger threat. Let me put it this away. Remove RDR, give 34.88% of its votes to ME2 (ME2's current percentage), and ME2 gets 44.12%, still a solid number before even considering that ME2 could very well get a lot more than that from RDR's removal. You act like the Wii GotY poll had games with actual strength outside of Galaxy 2. The other games only look more impressive because that poll didn't have a strong second-place contender like RDR taking up more of their votes. The third-place game was freaking Monster Hunter Tri. To be honest, I'm not ruling out Reach > Galaxy 2 at this point. --- Wylvane Guru Contest Winner Black Turtle is a wonderful user. |
