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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:38:19 PM | message detail
We should have the Wyoming x-stats tbqh.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:41:41 PM | message detail
Now I'll predict how those divisions would end up.

(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(16) WWF No Mercy

(8) The Legend of Dragoon
(9) Grand Theft Auto IV

(5) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
(12) Viewtiful Joe

(4) Mass Effect
(13) Dissidia: Final Fantasy

(6) Team Fortress 2
(11) Banjo-Tooie

(3) God of War
(14) TimeSplitters 2

(7) Fable
(10) Ninja Gaiden

(2) Kingdom Hearts II
(15) Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(9) Grand Theft Auto IV

(5) Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
(4) Mass Effect

(6) Team Fortress 2
(3) God of War

(7) Fable
(2) Kingdom Hearts II
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(4) Mass Effect

(3) God of War
(2) Kingdom Hearts II
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(2) Kingdom Hearts II
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
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Calintares | Posted 12/26/2010 3:43:36 PM | message detail
We should have the Wyoming x-stats tbqh.

someone sig this for a day: "Calintares is a huge stat nerd"

And I'll do it.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:44:50 PM | message detail
(1) Metroid Prime
(16) Beyond Good & Evil

(8) Super Mario Sunshine
(9) Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum

(5) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
(12) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney

(4) Final Fantasy IX
(13) Left 4 Dead 2

(6) God of War II
(11) Metroid Fusion

(3) Batman: Arkham Asylum
(14) Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal

(7) Dragon Age: Origins
(10) Skies of Arcadia

(2) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
(15) F-Zero GX
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(1) Metroid Prime
(9) Pokemon Diamond/Pearl/Platinum

(5) Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
(4) Final Fantasy IX

(6) God of War II
(3) Batman: Arkham Asylum

(7) Dragon Age: Origins
(2) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
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(1) Metroid Prime
(4) Final Fantasy IX

(3) Batman: Arkham Asylum
(2) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
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(1) Metroid Prime
(2) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
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(2) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:46:23 PM | message detail
Done
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:49:26 PM | message detail
(1) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(16) Wii Sports

(8) Devil May Cry
(9) Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII

(5) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
(12) Deus Ex

(4) Paper Mario
(13) Gears of War 2

(6) Halo 3
(11) Dead Rising

(3) Tales of Symphonia
(14) Plants vs. Zombies

(7) New Super Mario Bros. Wii
(10) ICO

(2) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
(15) Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(8) Devil May Cry

(5) Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
(4) Paper Mario

(6) Halo 3
(3) Tales of Symphonia

(7) New Super Mario Bros. Wii
(2) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(4) Paper Mario

(3) Tales of Symphonia
(2) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(2) Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess


No upsets division, though I'm unsure about Uncharted vs Paper Mario. Also Zelda games killing <_<
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:51:32 PM | message detail
(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee
(16) Mario Kart DS

(8) LittleBigPlanet
(9) Gears of War

(5) Assassin’s Creed II
(12) Star Ocean: Till the End of Time

(4) Halo: Combat Evolved
(13) Dead Space

(6) Marvel vs. Capcom 2
(11) Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King

(3) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
(14) No More Heroes

(7) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
(10) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare 2

(2) Shadow of the Colossus
(15) Conker’s Bad Fur Day
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee
(9) Gears of War

(5) Assassin’s Creed II
(4) Halo: Combat Evolved

(6) Marvel vs. Capcom 2
(3) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

(7) Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
(2) Shadow of the Colossus
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee
(4) Halo: Combat Evolved

(3) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
(2) Shadow of the Colossus
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee
(2) Shadow of the Colossus
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee
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"Calintares is a huge stat nerd"
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pjbasis | Posted 12/26/2010 3:52:57 PM | message detail
I think LBP can take Gears.
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:53:25 PM | message detail
(1) Fallout 3
(16) inFamous

(8) Halo 2
(9) Fire Emblem

(5) Chrono Cross
(12) Valkyria Chronicles

(4) Resident Evil 5
(13) Civilization IV

(6) Final Fantasy XII
(11) The World Ends With You

(3) Grand Theft Auto III
(14) Silent Hill 2

(7) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
(10) Tales of Vesperia

(2) Half-Life 2
(15) Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations
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(1) Fallout 3
(8) Halo 2

(5) Chrono Cross
(4) Resident Evil 5

(6) Final Fantasy XII
(3) Grand Theft Auto III

(7) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
(2) Half-Life 2
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(1) Fallout 3
(8) Halo 2

(5) Chrono Cross
(4) Resident Evil 5

(6) Final Fantasy XII
(3) Grand Theft Auto III

(7) Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
(2) Half-Life 2
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(1) Fallout 3
(4) Resident Evil 5

(3) Grand Theft Auto III
(2) Half-Life 2
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(1) Fallout 3
(2) Half-Life 2
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(1) Fallout 3
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"Calintares is a huge stat nerd"
Link always wins. Only Jay Solano, L-Block, Cloud, God and BlAcK_TuRtLe can def
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:54:53 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #458
I think LBP can take Gears.


Maybe. That one was a toss-up.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:56:59 PM | message detail
(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
(16) Jet Grind Radio

(8) SoulCalibur II
(9) Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos

(5) Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
(12) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3

(4) Super Mario Galaxy
(13) The Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

(6) Street Fighter IV
(11) Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4

(3) Kingdom Hearts
(14) Psychonauts

(7) Demon’s Souls
(10) Mario Kart Wii

(2) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
(15) Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
(8) SoulCalibur II

(5) Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
(4) Super Mario Galaxy

(6) Street Fighter IV
(3) Kingdom Hearts

(10) Mario Kart Wii
(2) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
(4) Super Mario Galaxy

(3) Kingdom Hearts
(2) Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
(3) Kingdom Hearts
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(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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"Calintares is a huge stat nerd"
Link always wins. Only Jay Solano, L-Block, Cloud, God and BlAcK_TuRtLe can def
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 3:59:55 PM | message detail
(1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
(16) Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow

(8) Borderlands
(9) Left 4 Dead

(5) Mega Man 9
(12) Advance Wars

(4) Okami
(13) Star Wars: Battlefront II

(6) Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening
(11) Animal Crossing

(3) Diablo 2
(14) Mother 3

(7) World of Warcraft
(10) Perfect Dark

(2) Resident Evil 4
(15) Braid
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(1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
(9) Left 4 Dead

(5) Mega Man 9
(4) Okami

(6) Devil May Cry 3: Dante’s Awakening
(3) Diablo 2

(7) World of Warcraft
(2) Resident Evil 4
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(1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
(4) Okami

(3) Diablo 2
(2) Resident Evil 4
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(1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
(2) Resident Evil 4
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(1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal

Not sure about Pokemon>RE4 though. Also not usre about L4D>Borderlands.
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"Calintares is a huge stat nerd"
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 4:02:02 PM | message detail
(1) Final Fantasy X
(16) Guitar Hero II

(8) Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald
(9) The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

(5) Golden Sun
(13) Rock Band 2

(4) BioShock
(13) Disgaea: Hour of Darkness

(6) Assassin’s Creed
(11) Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn

(3) Portal
(14) Katamari Damacy

(7) Sonic Adventure 2
(10) The Sims

(2) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
(15) Shenmue
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(1) Final Fantasy X
(8) Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald

(5) Golden Sun
(4) BioShock

(6) Assassin’s Creed
(3) Portal

(7) Sonic Adventure 2
(2) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
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(1) Final Fantasy X
(4) BioShock

(3) Portal
(2) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
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(1) Final Fantasy X
(2) Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
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(1) Final Fantasy X

Actually I wouldn't be too surprised to see a Portal upset here, but I don't think It'd happen.
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"Calintares is a huge stat nerd"
Link always wins. Only Jay Solano, L-Block, Cloud, God and BlAcK_TuRtLe can def
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/26/2010 4:05:50 PM | message detail
(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(2) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

(1) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee

(1) Fallout 3
(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl

(1) Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal
(1) Final Fantasy X
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(1) Super Smash Bros. Melee

(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
(1) Final Fantasy X
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask
(1) Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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(1) The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask

I'm not too sure about Brawl>FFX, but I think that Brawl was SFF'd by MM a little. It should be able to defeat FFX.
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"Calintares is a huge stat nerd"
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Calintares | Posted 12/26/2010 4:59:50 PM | message detail
WARNING!

do not attempt to make sense of the Wyoming X-stats, it will drive you insane. the Wyoming stats should be used for entertainment purposes only.



Twilight Princess 58.68
Resident Evil 5 53.87
Super Smash Bros Brawl 53.62
Majora's Mask 50.00
Kingdom Hearts 2 49.52
Final Fantasy X 48.28
Resident Evil 4 48.28
Metroid Prime 46.97
Tales of Symphonia 46.69
Super Smash Bros Melee 46.47
Fallout 3 45.16
Kingdom Hearts 44.66
Diablo 2 43.49
Star Wars KOTOR 43.28
God of War 42.31
Metal Gear Solid 4 41.68
Halo 2 41.41
Half-Life 2 41.40
Mass Effect 40.34
Metroid Fusion 38.70
Portal 38.22
Shadow of the Colossus 38.20
Pokemon Crystal 37.84
Legend of Dragoon 37.61
Baldur's Gate 2 37.29
Assassins Creed 37.04
Metal Gear Solid 3 36.84
Wind Waker 36.54
Final Fantasy IX 36.48
Assassins Creed 2 35.36
Bioshock 35.36
Super Mario Galaxy 33.11
Halo 32.25
Batman Arkam Asylum 32.04
Skies of Arcadia 31.97
Fire Emblem 31.89
Metal Gear Solid 2 31.84
Modern Warfare 2 31.69
God of War 2 31.67
Uncharted 2 31.67
Final Fantasy XII 31.48
Borderlands 31.24
GTA: Vice City 31.03
Oblivion 30.69
ICO 30.06
Golden Sun 29.96
Dragon Age: Origins 29.92
Halo 3 29.89
Street Fighter IV 29.23
Mario Kart DS 28.87
Crisis Core FF7 28.74
Paper Mario 28.52
Sonic Adventure 2 28.39
GTA III 28.32
New Super Mario Bros Wii 28.14
Okami 27.93
Dead Space 27.40
Tales of Vesperia 27.16
Disgaea 26.82
Devil May Cry 26.63
Paper Mario TYD 26.48
Pokemon Platinum 26.26
Fable 26.04
Advance Wars 25.89
GTA: San Andreas 25.88
Chrono Cross 25.81
Ninja Gaiden 25.50
Super Mario Sunshine 25.07
Silent Hill 2 24.83
Valkyria Chronicles 24.75
Dragon Quest VIII 24.74
Timesplitters 2 24.56
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow 24.36
Dissidia 23.99
Marvel VS Capcom 2 23.27
Morrowind 23.23
Civilization 4 22.91
Eternal Darkness 22.29
Gears of War 22.07
Call of Duty 4 21.87
Mega Man 9 21.48
Gears of War 2 21.22
The Sims 21.13
World of Warcraft 20.92
Team Fortres 2 20.83
Mario Kart Wii 20.70
Tony Hawk 2 19.84
Persona 3 19.64
Star Ocean 3 19.34
Left 4 Dead 19.16
Star Wars Battlefront 19.04
Plants vs Zombies 18.62
No More Heroes 18.62
Ratchet & Clank UyA 18.24
Warcraft III 18.22
Little Big Planet 18.02
Demon's Souls 17.58
Prince of Persia SoT 17.49
Psychonauts 17.25
Soul Calibur 2 17.19
Left 4 Dead 2 16.93
Perfect Dark 16.90
Rock Band 2 16.83
Fire Emblem: PoR 16.71
Deus Ex 16.13
Pokemon Emerald 15.98
InFamous 15.94
Jet Grind Radio 15.72
Devil May Cry 3 15.66
Shenmue 15.64
Beyond Good and Evil 15.45
Animal Crossing 13.39
Viewtifull Joe 13.32
Banjo-Tooie 13.26
Mother 3 13.05
Conker's Bad Fur Day 12.29
Wii Sports 12.12
GTA IV 12.07
Phoenix Wright 10.39
F-Zero GX 9.57
Phoenix Wright T&T 8.42
Guitar Hero 2 7.74
WWF: No Mercy 7.27
Katamari Damacy 5.43
Dead Rising 5.07
The World Ends With You 4.55
Persona 4 4.20
Braid 2.63

Anyone want any other regional stats done, let me know. Otherwise, I'm done for this season.
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WhiteLens | Posted 12/26/2010 5:04:02 PM | message detail

From: ctesjbuvf | #464
I'm not too sure about Brawl>FFX, but I think that Brawl was SFF'd by MM a little. It should be able to defeat FFX.


Plus, there was could have been a bandwagon going on to push MM to win the whole thing.
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Azp2k32 | Posted 12/26/2010 5:11:34 PM | message detail
Metroid Prime 46.97
Tales of Symphonia 46.69

Super Smash Bros Melee 46.47
Fallout 3 45.16
Kingdom Hearts 44.66
Diablo 2 43.49
Star Wars KOTOR 43.28
God of War 42.31
Metal Gear Solid 4 41.68
Halo 2 41.41
Half-Life 2 41.40
Mass Effect 40.34
Metroid Fusion 38.70

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Halo 32.25

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Mario Kart DS 28.87
Crisis Core FF7 28.74
Paper Mario 28.52
Sonic Adventure 2 28.39
GTA III 28.32



Christ, what the f***.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/26/2010 5:12:34 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 5 second strongest game of the bracket confirmed.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/26/2010 10:23:49 PM | message detail
RE5's our Ultimate Loser AND almost Wyoming's champion? It's one position away from perfection.
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Calintares | Posted 12/27/2010 2:03:08 AM | message detail
The funny thing is that while RE5 is the ultimate loser in the real world, in Wyoming it's as close as it gets to being the ultimate winner

Real World: RE5<ToS<GoW<HL2<MP<FO3<Brawl<MM

Wyoming Land: RE5>ToS>GoW<HL2>MP>FO3<Brawl>MM

with the exception of Brawl beating Fallout 3 and Metroid Prime beating Half-Life it won every step of the way,

Also, the Persona 4 fourpack is the most awful thing I've ever seen. And it's all because of the RE4 match.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/27/2010 2:07:54 AM | message detail

From: WhiteLens | #466
Plus, there was could have been a bandwagon going on to push MM to win the whole thing.


And some bandwagon to eliminate Brawl.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/27/2010 2:29:08 AM | message detail
Right now, as I see it, only the middle four divisions are absolutely legit. From then on, Fallout 3's and MM's overperformances in the final rounds make things silly. Do you really think Resident Evil 5 could beat stuff like Super Mario Galaxy and Knights of the Old Republic? Would you really take Sonic Adventure 2 over Call of Duty 4? Does Ico actually humiliate Modern Warfare 2 like that? Does it occur to you guys that World of Warcraft still somehow finished in the top half of the x-stats despite supposedly being anti-voted so heavily? And something seems fishy about The Sims being stronger than either Persona game, no?

Maybe you could just adjust the stats based on Diablo II's, GTAIII's, and Halo's percents on KOTOR from last year?
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Azp2k32 | Posted 12/27/2010 2:47:10 AM | message detail

From: ctesjbuvf | #001
And some bandwagon to eliminate Brawl.


^
There were probably several bandwagons of sorts. The "old Nintendo" fans, voting (vengefully?) over SSBB, the Zelda-drone fans, and just plain SSB series fans who hate SSBB, independent of Nintendo or Square. None of those being particularly large, but just enough to push MM over FFX/SSBB.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/27/2010 2:51:02 AM | message detail
MM was probably bandwagoned/rallied a bit more than normal in the semis/final, but I doubt it would be significantly weaker than FFX/SSBB without it. It still smashed MGS3 around, 55-45'd GSC and proved itself a good way above Oblivion in brushing WW aside. It'll be on their level next contest.

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Azp2k32 | Posted 12/27/2010 3:16:35 AM | message detail

From: Kotetsu534 | #001
MM was probably bandwagoned/rallied a bit more than normal in the semis/final, but I doubt it would be significantly weaker than FFX/SSBB without it. It still smashed MGS3 around, 55-45'd GSC and proved itself a good way above Oblivion in brushing WW aside. It'll be on their level next contest.


Definitely not significantly weaker, but I'd question another victory over either. Well, SSBB less so, but SSBM and FFX for sure. We don't have a great window with which to look at the stats, but MGS games are definitely much weaker than expected. I think it's safe to say the Snake love in the character competition was less attributable to MGS4 bringing game strength, but rather to the SSBB appearance which we can see doesn't directly reflect upon the games. Pokémon, eh, I think that's been discussed to death. As for WW vs. MM, SFF much? We know it hits higher in the Zelda heirarchy for 2 reasons-Cel shading hate, and OoT proxydom. While it would beat Oblivion, you can't apply X-Stat concepts to that.

I don't think any of this is going to lead to much more strength though; if we were to have another games contest too we'd just get some more bracket voters (in exchange for the loss of the minor bandwagons). An early quarter final FFX vs. MM would definitely be a match I'd still question even with a minor bracket voting advantage. Might even give the favor to FFX.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/27/2010 3:40:59 AM | message detail
MGS4 was beastly last contest but clearly dropped off. Based off FFX/RE4, MM/FFX and MM/MGS3, MGS3 was more or less where it was last contest - slightly below RE4 (it lost to it in a close match).

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/27/2010 3:48:12 AM | message detail
If I remember last year Shadow of the Colossus got 35% on Resident Evil 4. According to these stats, it gets 48% on the same game. Sorry man, Majora's Mask was clearly bandwagoned. Like I said, I think the best way to adjust the bottom half of the bracket is to take Diablo II's number on KOTOR last year and work from there. With the top half it would be adjusting based on GTAIII's number on KOTOR, and then adjust the bottom half of the North division by Halo's number on GTAIII.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/27/2010 3:19:49 PM | message detail
Oh wait a minute, if we were in the oracle thing, we have to change our sig to praising Turtle dont we?
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/27/2010 3:45:05 PM | message detail
Guru, not Oracle.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/27/2010 3:45:47 PM | message detail
Hmm, did I enter the Guru? I forget <_<
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/27/2010 4:04:44 PM | message detail
hey who's in charge of the guru again?
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/27/2010 4:07:52 PM | message detail
http://thengamer.com/guru/CB8/

Look for yourself.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/27/2010 4:09:02 PM | message detail
Would you really take Sonic Adventure 2 over Call of Duty 4?

I'd totally consider this. >_>

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/27/2010 4:41:57 PM | message detail
I originally made this list to show off Epona in my rally-topic, but I think it's an interesting list in its own right:

From: HaRRicH
Let's take a quick look at the top fifteen games on the site, shall we? We certainly don't have anything definite on the order of them, but we have a decent idea of who they are. Let's look at the top five games in the last contest:

LoZ:MM
FFX
SSBB
SSBM
LoZ:TP

Now let's look at what are probably the top ten games that weren't in this bracket:

LoZ:OoT
FF7
LoZ:LttP
RBY
SM64
SMW
SMB3
CT
MGS
GE 007

Just combining these two lists makes for a pretty solid selection for the top fifteen games here. Now, check this out -- here's a list of characters in the order of who makes the most relevant appearances in these games:

Link - 8 (six if you don't count Young/Toon Link in SSBM/B, four without the SSB-series)
Mario - 6 (five if you don't count Dr. Mario in SSBM, three without the SSB-series)
Ganondorf - 5 (three without the SSB-series)
Zelda - 5 (three without the SSB-series)
Bowser - 5 (three without the SSB-series)
Peach - 5 (three without the SSB-series)
Luigi - 4 (two without the SSB-series)
Yoshi - 4 (two without the SSB-series)
Epona - 3
Pikachu - 3 (one without the SSB-series)
Charizard - 3 (two if you don't count Poke-powers in SSBM, one without the SSB-series)
Jigglypuff - 3 (one without the SSB-series)
Samus - 3 (two if you don't count ZSS in SSBB, none without the SSB-series)
Toad - 2 (four if you count Peach's attack in the SSB-series)
Dark Link - 2 (four if you count Event-mode in the SSB-series)
Solid Snake - 2 (one without the SSB-series)
Mewtwo - 2 (one without the SSB-series)
Squirtle - 2 (one without the SSB-series)
Pokemon Trainer Red (one without the SSB-series)
Tingle - 2 (one without the SSB-series)
Navi - 2 (one if you don't count the Wii-pointer in the Wii-version of LoZ:TP)
Cloud - 1
Sephiroth - 1
Vincent - 1
Tifa - 1
Aeris - 1
Zack - 1
Cid - 1
Midgar Zolom - 1
Barret - 1
Auron - 1
Yuna - 1
Tidus - 1
Rikku - 1
Crono - 1
Missingno - 1
Midna - 1
Otacon - 1
Sonic - 1 (none without the SSB-series)
many other SSB-characters by Nintendo- 1 to 2 (none without the SSB-series)
Seifer - 0
Morrigan - 0
Mega Man - 0


I tried to include every character that had a game in this preliminary top fifteen-list I suggested and has had a match before...plus I added the upcoming NRT-winners, Mega Man to finish off the Noble Nine, and Dark Link and Navi since they were in more than one game on that list without reaching a contest.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/27/2010 4:43:20 PM | message detail
I forgot Jecht and Sin, I see...anybody else I forget or mess up on that list?
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/27/2010 5:15:54 PM | message detail
Is Golden Eye really that high? Though it would be awesome I don't really think so.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/27/2010 5:27:40 PM | message detail
I'd take Goldeneye over the other Western powerhouses (I use this term very loosely) around here. It was comfortably ahead of Super Mario RPG in 2009, and that's likely a good step ahead of the Paper Mario games. You factor in the solid Nintendo backing, and yeah, I'd take Goldeneye over stuff like Fallout and Oblivion pretty easily in a 1v1. Might take it over Metal Gear Solid as well; being the first huge-name, story-based series to "end" just seems like it has hurt MGS.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/27/2010 5:35:42 PM | message detail
Oh, by the way

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3199

This result looks pretty darn good now, doesn't it? Yeah, I'd take Goldeneye to rock serious face in a 1v1. I think bad placement has kept it from showing off its true potential twice now; it was fed to OoT in 2004 and had FFVII twice in 2009 (including that Round 3 match against CT and SM64 where it was very likely undervalued).
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2010 5:48:10 PM | message detail
Yeah, I've thought Goldeneye was very strong since last contest. 33% on FFVII is really good when you realize that there were 2 other Nintendo games in that match. 33% on FFVII with 2 Nintendo games beats 34.5% on OOT with Brawl, and the only obstacle to me to taking it over MGS and FFX is that I can't see it beating Melee or Brawl.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2010 5:56:18 PM | message detail
SSBM is the only one of the trio (or indeed, the only game in this year's bracket) I'd take over MM in a match next year. It's close enough of course for the result to switch quite easily with the others, but I don't see what's going to change that's likely against SSBB or FFX- you can say that MM beat FFX because of anti-voting or bandwagoning or whatever, but the thing is whatever it is, it happens every time FF goes up against Zelda. It's consistent- and the same probably goes for Brawl too.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/27/2010 8:15:15 PM | message detail
I owe Yesmar a formal apology. I'm doing the PCA, and he's got a point about 12 hour matches. The bad matches are all a blur and the good matches and/or matches decided by time make you feel robbed. I do think 12 hour matches are the better format, but an outstanding 24 hour match cannot be topped.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/27/2010 8:18:47 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #491
I owe Yesmar a formal apology. I'm doing the PCA, and he's got a point about 12 hour matches. The bad matches are all a blur and the good matches and/or matches decided by time make you feel robbed. I do think 12 hour matches are the better format, but an outstanding 24 hour match cannot be topped.


True, and awesome 24 hour match is way better than an awesome 12 hour match, that's always true.

But a crap 12 hour match is way better than a crap 24 hour match, and that's the majority of matches.
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695924 | Posted 12/27/2010 8:19:13 PM | message detail
Bandwagon + rallying + anti FF sentiments from the casuals will keep all FF not named FFVII from doing anything significant.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/27/2010 8:28:51 PM | message detail
Yeah, it's true that Goldeneye looks great based on those polls. It suggests good things for Mario RPG, as well. I mention that because Goldeneye edged out Mario RPG by something like 35% to 31%. Also, don't forget that Paper Mario had a great showing in GotD! More evidence that SMRPG might do very well. I would not pick Goldeneye over Majora's Mask, though....not anytime soon. I would take Goldeneye over Fallout 3, and it might be a good upset pick over RE4 or MGS3.

Anybody want to post the x-stats for Germany (I'm kind of lacking a good computer with a spreadsheet right now)? Its taste in games is my personal favorite. =p

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/27/2010 9:27:26 PM | message detail
Goldeneye crunches Fallout and Oblivion and even edges MGS and RE4 in a 1v1 setting. (Hmmm, might need a Day Match for those last two though.)

I'd advise you to keep a very close eye on James Bond's bracket placement this Summer!

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/27/2010 9:57:07 PM | message detail
I'd advise you to keep a very close eye on James Bond's bracket placement this Summer!

Or in the fall. Very unlikely that the next contest will be in the Winter or Spring, and a Summer contest would be boring due to a lack of an ASV. A Fall contest would be best.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/27/2010 10:04:07 PM | message detail
A summer contest would not be boring due to a lack of ASV. 2002, 2003, and 2005 were wonderful contests, and these things started off as summer contests, after all.
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ffdgh1 | Posted 12/27/2010 10:07:31 PM | message detail
oh to 500?
neat
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SubDeity | Posted 12/27/2010 10:16:50 PM | message detail
Let's try a double post...
SubDeity | Posted 12/27/2010 10:16:53 PM | message detail
Play Fire Emblem