GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 990
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:20:56 PM | message detail |
I
can't help but look at the majority of these SSBB-hating posts and
think you're still sore about SSBM losing fair and square in its more
convenient time-frame...and before America's brought up, if you think
SSBB beats SSBM worse in a day-match, you gotta concede SSBB likely
beats SSBM in America too. Yeesh, you guys just don't stop for any match or at any hour of the night. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg EPONA EPONA EPONA |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:21:41 PM | message detail |
still sore about SSBM losing No, really? --- DFF |
Masato_Tanaka | Posted 12/22/2010 11:22:55 PM | message detail |
...Yep, biggest upset in contest history. --- Yo Where All The White Women At |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:24:10 PM | message detail |
I
think we're more sore that SSBB even exists than that it beat Melee.
Had it lost to Melee, next contest there would still be lots of
schadenfreude if Brawl got embarrassed. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:25:41 PM | message detail |
This
contest really turned around for me at the end. We're going to end with
our closest semifinal ever, and probably our closest final ever too. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:26:28 PM | message detail |
I like Brawl. I enjoy Brawl. Beating Melee is the death penalty. --- DFF |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:27:00 PM | message detail |
Majora's Mask totally running away with it now. This is beautiful. --- Sack Up Or Shut Up™ Philly is the greatest city in the world. Go Flyers! Also WC is better than me. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:27:42 PM | message detail |
Going
to bed, this isn't going to be exciting for a while. Hopefully MM has a
larger lead when I wake up (do NOT want to see a repeat of what
happened with Melee). --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:28:13 PM | message detail |
MM is crushing Europe. Brawl is in for the long haul. --- DFF |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/22/2010 11:28:52 PM | message detail |
I
can't help but look at the majority of these SSBB-hating posts and
think you're still sore about SSBM losing fair and square in its more
convenient time-frame...and before America's brought up, if you think
SSBB beats SSBM worse in a day-match, you gotta concede SSBB likely
beats SSBM in America too. Brawl might have won by a larger margin in a day match. Neither a night match or a day match is any help to Melee. Disadvantages of a night match - Europe, Asia, and Oceania having more control over a match, which is important when they all favored Brawl. Melee managed to hold the lead in North America when the match ended. Disadvantages of a day match - Europe, Asia, and Oceania has less control over a match, but this is countered by the fact that Melee likely won't build up as large of a lead (compared to the night match) before the ASV hits and favors Brawl. Brawl might have very well won North America if this was a day match thanks to the ASV, since North America has way more control over a day match. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:28:59 PM | message detail |
Though
there's no chance of that as long as MM is winning 60-40 in Europe. If
it can maintain through till dawn, Brawl will be totally cooked. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 11:30:52 PM | message detail |
Don't worry, guys. Brawl's online is still atrocious. Anyway, the question must be asked. Melee vs. Majora in the final: is Melee losing by 700 right now? Is it losing at all? --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:33:04 PM | message detail |
We're going to have to see the final % before making judgement calls. But let's be honest. At this point in time, even if it wouldn't keep it, Melee would probably have the lead. --- DFF |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:36:36 PM | message detail |
Perhaps
I should be more specific about how sore you guys are being then, KP.
I'll use Ulti for an example: SotC beat MGS2 and MGS4, yet Ulti claims
he's becoming a fan of the game just based off of its run. Remember his
reviews before? Metal Gear Solid 2 Best game on the Playstation 2, and that's saying a LOT given how stacked the system is. 12/10/03 10/10 Shadow of the Colossus In the running for worst game ever made. At the very least, it's the most overhyped game ever made. 08/16/10 1/10 That was an upset that shots down many a bracket too...SSBB > SSBM was expected, yet you guys are riling yourselves up more and more by the day ever since then. It's pretty gross, and not even from an opinion-perspective; I just can't believe you find it within yourselves to get more and more upset about this so long after the fact. It's petty. From: Masato_Tanaka | #153 Biggest since L-Block, anyway! --- Where's your horse? http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 11:37:09 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #163 Hell no. Against a wagoned game? Are you serious, KP? That would require a Power Hour Vote of the kind Crono boasted around 2k3-2k4 with a sprite pic. Melee has a good power hour, but not "lol I 95% Link" good. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:39:42 PM | message detail |
Also,
I'm not sold this is a bandwagon anyway. SSBM was barely projected to
beat FFX last year after considering KH and ignoring Diablo 2, SSBB's
likely indirectly equal to SSBM, and LoZ:MM beat FFX immediately before
this match started. This feels pretty legit in that sense, though I
know other arguments are available. --- <3 Epona. Heart Epona. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:40:04 PM | message detail |
Just because we expected Brawl to win doesn't make it any less sickening that it did. I don't think you understand. To us, Brawl beating Melee may very well be the worst contest result to ever happen. Seeing Brawl in the finals of a Game of the Decade contest just makes it even worse. This is not something that we will ever get over. Brawl losing here is like putting a band-aid on the gaping wound that is Brawl beat Melee. --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:40:57 PM | message detail |
You only need to look at the early vote to see the bandwagon. This was once at 56%. --- DFF |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 11:41:59 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #167 Man...why? Sure, Brawl is worse, but c'mon. It's not like going from Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Sunshine. It's actually still a fun, enjoyable game. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:44:42 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #167 You guys have been making the wound bigger and bigger for yourselves over two years now, so I'm not going to feel too bad about this. --- Epona: shaped like a horse to eat some oats. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:45:51 PM | message detail |
I
read about the board-vote, and was there any doubt LoZ:MM would beat
SSBB on B8, right after LoZ:MM pulled an all-time classic upset?
Doesn't mean a lot to me. --- <3 Epona. Heart Epona. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 11:46:58 PM | message detail |
From: KanzarisKelshen | #169 I just played a few games where you could practically count the frame-by-frame lag. Melee was one of the top two multiplayer experiences of its era. Brawl is outclassed by just about every multiplayer experience on the 360 and PS3. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
Mumei | Posted 12/22/2010 11:48:26 PM | message detail |
It's not like going from Super Mario 64 to Super Mario Sunshine That's actually insulting to Sunshine. --- "Luxe, calme et volupte." - Charles Baudelaire, The Invitation to the Voyage |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:49:34 PM | message detail |
You've
then determined the 360 and PS3 have a better online set-up than
Nintendo. Playing SSBB again wasn't necessary to discover that much. --- Where's your horse? http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 11:50:46 PM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #172 Really? That's never happened to me, and I lag by default because I'm in South America, away from all civilization. >_> --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:51:06 PM | message detail |
Brawl
is just...depressing. It's fun when you don't think about it and goof
off with friends, but when you get down to it, it's just sad. They took
a hacksaw to the core mechanics, ruined Captain Falcon, screwed up the
online, made the items too overpowered... It just could have been so, so much more. Even with all of Brawl's bells and whistles, Melee is just more fun to play. And they ruined Captain Falcon. I had used Falcon for about a decade, in both SSB games. We were Bros 4 Life. Then Brawl comes along and makes him terrible. That's an unforgiveable sin. --- DFF |
Big Bob | Posted 12/22/2010 11:51:56 PM | message detail |
MM > Brawl > Fallout 3 > Prime > Half-Life 2 > GoW > ToS > Resident Evil 5 --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=124 http://backloggery.com/big_bob |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 11:52:55 PM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #176 Agreed. If there's one thing I can't forgive about Brawl is ruining Falcon. I can't deny it. :( --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/22/2010 11:57:01 PM | message detail |
Anyway,
off to bed before I either start a war or become a troll. I just think
you've made yourselves believe this is so much worse than it really is.
They've butchered and damn near replaced Ness while nerfing Sheik
big-time for me...but no character is supposed to be the exact same in
every game. Sorry they didn't go in your favor with CF a third time in
a row, I guess. --- Nominate EPONA...or the terrorists win. http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/22/2010 11:57:24 PM | message detail |
More like ruining Samus, Mario, and Link (see username if you don't get the joke). Well I dunno about the only reason why I like Melee more is because it's more satisfying and since it was my first video game it's held dear to my heart. I suppose being the only Smash game where Link and Samus don't suck helps too. Not to mention Ganondorf rocks. Somehow I can never do all that well with the Star Fox or Fire Emblem guys. --- Currently Playing - Zelda: Majora's Mask, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami, StarCraft |
FFDragon | Posted 12/22/2010 11:57:27 PM | message detail |
From: Big Bob | Posted: 12/23/2010 2:51:56 AM | #177 And RE5 could still end up in the top half of the stats. No match in this chain was greater than a 55 - 45. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 11:59:23 PM | message detail |
From: HaRRicH | #174 I don't get what I'm supposed to do then - is there a special way I'm supposed to treat Brawl. It was probably one of my most anticipated games of all time. Heck, it may have been #1 by a wide margin. It's not terrible compared to your average game - maybe a 6 or 7/10 imo - but that's pretty bad when I was expecting something that'd blow Melee out of the water. Brawl is definitely the most disappointing game I've ever played, and for that, I'll always be glad when it gets its butt kicked! --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
Janus5000 | Posted 12/23/2010 12:00:09 AM | message detail |
And they ruined Captain Falcon. Honestly, if they hadn't made a worthy successor in Lucas, this would be more unforgivable than anything else about Brawl. --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ |
Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 12:21:05 AM | message detail |
Brawl
is a letdown to the Smash series, introducing some of the stupidest
mechanics I've ever seen in what's supposed to be a fighting game, such
as tripping. Majora's Mask, on the other hand, is so good that is has no business being a Zelda game. If anything, the Zelda elements hold it back a bit. That's the difference between these two games. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes Our honor defend, we will fight to the end |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/23/2010 12:23:33 AM | message detail |
Tell that to the voters. --- Currently Playing - Zelda: Majora's Mask, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami, StarCraft |
vcharon | Posted 12/23/2010 12:24:39 AM | message detail |
Well, I'm glad I was wrong. Worked out well there. Still, ZeldaFAQs isn't much to get excited about. --- :> |
FFDragon | Posted 12/23/2010 12:25:36 AM | message detail |
MaskFAQs is though! --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/23/2010 12:29:58 AM | message detail |
Well,
it's basically been a stall over the last hour or so. I'm starting to
get worried that we'll see some sort of really wonky trends here. --- ##Alec Philly is the greatest city in the world. Go Flyers! Also WC is better than me. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/23/2010 12:36:02 AM | message detail |
We're
almost exactly 1000 votes behind FFX/MM now. No way does this final hit
100k. Kinda sad, especially when you remember stuff like this: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2507 --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... Turtle own me... in the Guru! |
Janus5000 | Posted 12/23/2010 12:37:03 AM | message detail |
Bad comparison. A greater percentage of the words in that poll are ZELDA --- http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g320/HowDisturbing/stayawhile.jpg Fight like dragons, have no fear, swords are made of STEEEEEEEEL~ |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/23/2010 12:40:35 AM | message detail |
We're
almost exactly 1000 votes behind FFX/MM now. No way does this final hit
100k. Kinda sad, especially when you remember stuff like this: Since this match will fail to break 100000 votes, it looks like we will have to wait longer for another poll to break 100000 votes. It's been about 6 months since the last time a poll broke 100000 votes. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 12:42:39 AM | message detail |
And the lead is above 800. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes Our honor defend, we will fight to the end |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/23/2010 12:44:46 AM | message detail |
From: Janus5000 | #137 This is the post of the season. From: HaRRicH | #164 I said I would stop bashing SotC. I said nothing about liking it. And I don't think you quite understand just how much Brawl beating Melee hurt. For me personally, I have never anticipated a game more than I did Brawl. And then it just absolutely f***ing sucked. We won't get into why a tournament player's opinion matters more than the average gamer, because that's a whole different can of worms. It did more than just kill my love of completionism (an admittedly stupid thing to enjoy), or my love of anticipating new games. It partly killed my love of video games outright. Thankfully I found stuff like BioShock and Braid, which reminded me why video games are so good. It goes beyond even this. The people who made Brawl outright set out to insult and destroy the core fanbase of the series. You think all these Brawl hacks popped up by accident? They could have had something really special with that series, and instead chose to betray what made it great to design such casual-friendly, shallow junk. There's a reason casuals like Brawl and tournament players sneer at it, and it's not because we're elitists. You can have your fun stages, items, a million characters and whatever else. You seem to have this belief of tournament players not wanting those things, when this simply is not true. But the core gameplay, the thing that made the series so great, was assassinated. There is no other word for it, and it's a word Shakespeare invented for one the worst types of sin. It's melodramatic and petty and selfish, but for us, the Smash tournament crowd, there was nothing worse than how Brawl was designed and how that match went. So yes, I will sit here with cautious optimism about Majora winning and pray that Brawl doesn't rob its way to another undeserved win by getting the morning vote from irrelevant regions. The United States, the region where Smash tournaments were born and grew, did not favor Melee by accident. There is really no better way for this contest to end than that piece of s*** game getting the beating it deserves, and on top of this it's not like Majora is some undeserving winner. In some small way, it finally moves out of Ocarina's shadow and gets some of the attention and respect it deserves. Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask are both games that get criminally underrated because their Zelda elements make them seem childish, much like how people look at the Final Fantasy X cover and think of beach bums and sunny days. Don't let it fool you. Majora's Mask is one of the most depressing games you will ever play. It really deserves this. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.imgcake.com/foolmoron/Kuroko-Head-Desk.gif |
FFDragon | Posted 12/23/2010 12:47:56 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 12/23/2010 3:44:46 AM | #193 Nothing worse than finishing the Kafei and Anju Quest and then having to play the Song of Time. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/wesker.gif |
Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 12:50:33 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #193 The goal in each Zelda game is to save the world. But Majora's Mask is the only game in the series that makes you feel like it's actually doomsday. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes Our honor defend, we will fight to the end |
Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 12:53:59 AM | message detail |
Not
to mention that due to the lore and the intertwining sagas of each
character, MM presents the only world in the series that I actually
wanted to fight for; it was worth saving. As opposed to the others,
where it merely feels like an objective to complete the game. --- The Ohio State Buckeyes Our honor defend, we will fight to the end |
SubDeity | Posted 12/23/2010 12:54:59 AM | message detail |
It's
melodramatic and petty and selfish, but for us, the Smash tournament
crowd, there was nothing worse than how Brawl was designed and how that
match went. If that's the case, why do so many of them still play it? When I hate a game like, say, MGS2, I simply stop playing it. Brawl seems to be humming along splendidly if these hacks are any indication and definitely has a tournament scene. |
FastFalcon05 | Posted 12/23/2010 12:55:46 AM | message detail |
Alright,
Ulti, Brawl is worse than Melee, but it's not half as bad as you're
making it out to be. And I don't buy your anecdotal evidence of the
tourny-player hatred. It wouldn't shock me entirely, but I doubt it's
as reviled as you're making it out to be. For all Brawl's faults, it's
still online. For me that was enough to bring some replay value in. I agree with those who said it's bad compared to Melee, but it's fine compared to everything else. Granted, if they had done nothing more than rerelease Melee with online interactivity I would have wholeheartedly endorsed it. --- One of the most troublesome things in life is that what you do or do not want has little to do with what does or does not happen. 4983-4640-3352 Brawl Code |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/23/2010 12:58:53 AM | message detail |
MM winning http://myfacewhen.com/i/472.gif --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/23/2010 12:59:26 AM | message detail |
No online is better than bad online first off, and secondly I don't consider playing a hack the same as playing the game. It's not like FFT 1.3 where you're playing a harder version of the same game. Brawl hacks are rebuilt from the ground-up and are basically completely different games. --- ,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·. " 'Competeny' doesn't show up on Dictionary.com." -Anagram |
