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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/23/2010 1:44:31 PM | message detail
Why is it bad? Persona 4 is awesome. A game should not be excluded from a list because it didn't sell 5 million copies.

I never called it bad, I said the hatred for P4 being on that list wasn't as bad as the hatred for Umineko.
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Wii_TuRtLe | Posted 12/23/2010 1:46:27 PM | message detail
Mana, I would have won a prize if FFX beat Majora and lost here. Can't blame Majora for me winning
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/23/2010 1:47:14 PM | message detail
I didn't really see any hate for Persona 4, but if there was and I missed it, then that's dumb too!

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Haste_2 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:47:42 PM | message detail
Would could always nominate...
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:49:32 PM | message detail
It's a bit different, this is Santa against Link fresh off winning yet another contest (anti-votes) and on Christmas Eve, the equivalent of having Batman face Link when the next Batman movie premiers.

I'm just saying what SBAllen will be thinking if his thought was to have a fictional character contest.
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/23/2010 1:51:00 PM | message detail
I'm surprised PW didn't get on the list. It's probably because everyone likes it, but not that many people would put it as a Best Game Ever.

KD didn't get on because it isn't that good.


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Mershaaay | Posted 12/23/2010 1:51:49 PM | message detail
(4:51:03 PM) XDanteX2005: I still say someone with pic abilities needs to make solanoclaus

i concur

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/23/2010 2:25:16 PM | message detail
Basing your vote on whether or not it'll help push an all-fictional contest is over-analytical. It's just a bonus match. Is SB going to allow multiple Links in a contest because Adult Link crushed the rest? Would he allow more Links if CD-I Link did better? These are two of the most beloved figures of our demographic -- just vote for who you want. It's Christmas-time and he likes to give us bonus polls when he can...pretty simple, especially considering the timing of it.
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Nominate EPONA from LoZ:OoT, LoZ:MM, and LoZ:TP!
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melikepizza | Posted 12/23/2010 2:34:26 PM | message detail
BRAWL WINNING IN THE US
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vcharon | Posted 12/23/2010 2:35:55 PM | message detail

From: melikepizza | #459
BRAWL WINNING IN THE US


LOLUS loses again.

Like we needed more proof which region had the worst taste.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/23/2010 2:43:10 PM | message detail
Heh, so Brawl does nothing with the 2 hours that Majora dominated yesterday, and now is beginning to move a little bit faster. Guess the Western US prefers Brawl, which is backed up by its 53% in California.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
Mumei | Posted 12/23/2010 2:44:54 PM | message detail
BRAWL WINNING IN THE US

Heh. MM still has the EC. <3

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Ngamer64 | Posted 12/23/2010 2:45:03 PM | message detail
Holy smokes! We've got the underdog making deep cuts to bring the percentage below 51 in the final 6 hours of a 128 entrant Championship match. ...and yet all anyone wants to talk about is if Link will be able to survive an onslaught from one of the world's most beloved non-traditional fictional characters in a straight up 1v1 24 hour slugfest.

Talk about a sign of things to come!

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swordz9 | Posted 12/23/2010 2:45:29 PM | message detail
You can't really say any 1 region has bad taste. Given the final it's more like the world as a whole has bad taste.
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whatisurnameplz | Posted 12/23/2010 2:49:47 PM | message detail
You can't really say any 1 region has bad taste. Given the final it's more like the world as a whole has bad taste.

Or you can just say the world actually likes MM more than you.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/23/2010 2:49:48 PM | message detail
and yet all anyone wants to talk about is if Link will be able to survive an onslaught from one of the world's most beloved non-traditional fictional characters in a straight up 1v1 24 hour slugfest.

I don't know if the bonus match will be 24 hours long. Keep in mind that Bacon already has set up his usual poll for tomorrow, the Christmas day poll, and all of the "Got Console?" polls that will run until the end of this year.

There are 2 possible ways that Bacon will do this bonus match:

1. Run 2 polls tomorrow, but each poll lasts for 12 hours. The bonus match would happen during the first 12 hours of tomorrow for a night match. During the second half of tomorrow, Bacon can run the poll that he had scheduled for tomorrow.

2. Bacon can do something similar to what CJayC did for the Link/Jay Solano match. That is, making a sticky topic on Board 8 that contains a poll and a match picture embedded inside the first post of the topic. This would not interfere with Bacon's poll schedule because the poll would not be on the homepage. It also allows for a 24 hour match, though.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 2:50:56 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4195&region=USXOH

Ohio. Superior.

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swordz9 | Posted 12/23/2010 2:52:35 PM | message detail
I don't like or hate MM since I've never played it. I'm just saying you can't really blame any results on 1 place in the world when the voters around the world are also partly to blame.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/23/2010 2:53:42 PM | message detail
C'mon Brawl.

Show that glorified 90's game who's boss.

Smash Bros. coming for you, hipsters.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 2:55:39 PM | message detail
MM winning updates.

Glorious.

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MrsFrisby | Posted 12/23/2010 3:00:04 PM | message detail
And another.

Truly glorious, yes.

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Evillordexdeath | Posted 12/23/2010 3:00:13 PM | message detail
Keep building MM! Don't let Brawl pass the 1,100 vote barrier!
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:01:38 PM | message detail
Go Super Smash Bros Brawl, screw all those Brawl haters and win it all!
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/23/2010 3:01:51 PM | message detail

From: Mumei | #427
It shouldn't be surprising that Brawl won. It's a game that intentionally targets the lowest-common denominator, skill-wise. People who are casual fans of both probably would be expected to like Brawl more - it has everything that they like about Melee and more and it's far more forgiving of mistakes (much more difficult to die at low percentages, better recovery for characters in general, more floaty characters in general, very easy to DC out of a lot of combos, etc.). And those people are more numerous, I think. Of course, Brawl still failed to even things up between the skilled and unskilled players, simply because even with those crutches given to unskilled players, it doesn't make up for differences in skill.

But those same things that make it appealing to casuals are achieved basically by taking away what made Melee fun as a competitive game. The problem was that with Melee, Sakurai intentionally tried to make the game better for hardcore players - but clearly didn't leave casual players behind. It is possible for a game to be a good competitive game and be accessible to people of varying skill levels. That's what we got with Melee, and what we were expecting with Brawl. Instead, Sakurai decided that he would rather sacrifice the things that made Melee better in exchange for making casual players feel like they suck marginally less. And in exchange, we got a game that is broken as a competitive game and needs fan patches to make it worth playing in a tournament setting.

Given what we were expecting, how it was hyped to us, and what was essentially a bait-and-switch that we got, it shouldn't be surprising that Brawl receives a lot of venom. I don't even think it's a bad game, per se. It's just very disappointing.


I think the things done to help ease mistakes were worth the benefits to the masses; dying at low percentages is balls in any SSB-game, recovery's difficult for many people just hopping in to play a match at a party (on top of the already-obtuse concept of using the ^B-attack for a triple-jump after you've used up/X/Y to jump twice, though I'd hate to see this concept leave now), and people were generally embracing a slower speed to return closer to SSB's pace before SSBB was released so falling slower than you did in SSBM shouldn't have been so bad.

I should clarify I don't mean to be against the idea of a game that pleases experts and casuals alike -- not many games can pull that off, but it's great when you can. SSBM gets big props for that. That said, it's not like SSB was ever intended to be a competitive fighter, SSBM's general spirit and marketing wasn't about technical fighting, and I still don't think SSBB ever meant to take itself that seriously either. I forget who said it (Ulti maybe), but SSBM being such a deep fighter for tourney-fans was a great mistake. If future SSBB-games allow great tournaments, I think that's excellent. Likewise, if future Mario Kart games allow great tournaments, I applaud them. It's just not the intention of the series.

I get bitterness and disappointment, and I don't 100% disagree with most complaints brought against it -- just the volume of them. I still feel like this level of hate's largely manufactured. Call it bait-n-switch if you wish, but you're asking the series to not return to the direction it's always been intended for. SSBB's not perfect, but it's hardly the anti-christ. Take out tripping in the next SSB-game, and probably the most legitimate damage has been fixed. Gently push toward SSBM-inspired changes like speed afterward -- especially now that a new generation's had plenty of time to play and become familiar with it -- and we'll have another fantastic game.

Also, improve online. I'll side with yo on that, though that's more of a Nintendo-thing.
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 12/23/2010 3:02:29 PM | message detail
Since all X-stats are based on the final percfentages, it's a little too early to do a full listing...so let's just do the bottom half of the bracket, since it looks like Majora's Mask is probably the champion.

1. Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask 50.00%
2. Final Fantasy X 49.89%
3. Pokémon Gold/Silver/Crystal 44.05%
4. Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 43.21%
5. Resident Evil 4 43.09%
6. Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 42.30%
7. Shadow of the Colossus 41.78%
8. Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 41.74%
9. Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots 41.42%
10. Portal 38.39%
11. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 37.85%
12. Diablo II 37.38%
13. Final Fantasy IX 36.85%
14. Paper Mario 35.96%
15. Mass Effect 35.07%
16. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 34.59%
17. Golden Sun 34.26%
18. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door 33.94%
19. Assassin’s Creed II 33.83%
20. Chrono Cross 32.90%
21. Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 31.73%
22. God of War II 31.15%
23. Final Fantasy XII 30.73%
24. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 30.58%
25. Assassin’s Creed 30.24%
26. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 29.64%
27. New Super Mario Bros. Wii 29.63%
28. World of Warcraft 29.38%
29. Borderlands 29.11%
30. Devil May Cry 29.02%
31. SoulCalibur II 28.43%
32. Gears of War 27.27%
33. Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII 27.26%
34. Fire Emblem 27.24%
35. Skies of Arcadia 26.51%
36. Tales of Vesperia 25.89%
37. ICO 25.79%
38. Mario Kart Wii 25.67%
39. The Sims 25.61%
40. Banjo-Tooie 25.31%
41. Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn 25.24%
42. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 25.23%
43. Dead Rising 25.09%
44. Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King 25.08%
45. The World Ends With You 24.63%
46. Animal Crossing 24.36%
47. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 23.88%
48. Advance Wars 23.54%
49. Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 22.94%
50. Viewtiful Joe 22.49%
51. Dead Space 21.93%
52. Gears of War 2 21.91%
53. Civilization IV 21.86%
54. Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal 21.76%
55. Silent Hill 2 21.60%
56. Plants vs. Zombies 21.34%
57. Katamari Damacy 20.04%
58. TimeSplitters 2 19.58%
59. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2 19.33%
60. Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem 19.21%
61. Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations 18.28%
62. Braid 18.18%
63. Wii Sports 16.60%
64. Jet Grind Radio 15.38%

Have we ever had someone finish that low in the X-Stats in a contest where they actually faced the champion directly? Granted this is only half the bracket, but Wii Sports is second from the bottom. Generally, AntiBlowoutFAQs means that the bottom of the X-Stats is filled with games/characters that were soundly beaten by someone who was soundly beaten later on, likely by someone who was soundly beaten even later on. Example: last contest, Link had a very good match against Mario after Mario had put up big blowouts in divisional play, making the entire Mushroom Division look like ****, especially Mega Man's half because Mario even did fairly well against Mega and Mega crushed Hayabusa in the division semis.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/23/2010 3:03:54 PM | message detail
Also, this is my cue to step away from the argument. No more SSB'ing from me for awhile.
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 12/23/2010 3:06:09 PM | message detail
hahah I can't believe Link vs. Santa is actually happening
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TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 12/23/2010 3:08:22 PM | message detail
MM would be lucky to break 20% against OOT directly. That game is an SFF beast like none other.

Agreed. Ocarina of Time would get at least a tripling on any other Zelda game. The question is, how strong is Majora's Mask in comparison to Ocarina of Time indirectly?
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:08:39 PM | message detail
Right now I'd kinda wish Jet Grind Radio didn't advance from those vote-in polls, and I can't believe I'm saying it. It's a possible last place for the x-stats. It's match is the only match I've seen where every place everywhere favored the same thing. Which was RE4 of course. Lets not forget that 95.55% people got the match right. No other match can top that. But seriously why JGR is one of the greatest games this decade, everyone who has played it loved it (if they played it on dreamcast and not GBA that is).
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transients | Posted 12/23/2010 3:08:49 PM | message detail
x-stats should go Majora > FFX > Brawl > Melee > TP > Fallout 3 > Prime > Half-Life 2 > GSC > Wind Waker > RE4 > MGS3 > SOTC > MGS2 > MGS4.

I'm thinking that if we ever have another Game Contest, we'll probably want to throw the four or five days of results out and not blindly follow the stats. they're kind of a mess, though in reality they're only off by a couple percent here and there. i
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:12:39 PM | message detail
I want a 1v1 contest with games just like this one, but with games from all times. Also without the games from the same years in the same divisions. That was lame.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:17:00 PM | message detail

From: SuperAngelo128 | #477
hahah I can't believe Link vs. Santa is actually happening


It is?

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Mumei | Posted 12/23/2010 3:17:53 PM | message detail
Call it bait-n-switch if you wish, but you're asking the series to not return to the direction it's always been intended for.

I don't really get the argument for authorial intent. Sakurai might have (okay, he explicitly did) intended for the series to be purely casual bait, but Melee showed that it could be both. Why would we want to go back when Melee showed that it was possible for the game to be both? Sakurai seems to believe that something having mass appeal and something having depth are diametrically opposed goals, and they're not.

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HaRRicH | Posted 12/23/2010 3:28:17 PM | message detail

From: Mumei | #483
Sakurai seems to believe that something having mass appeal and something having depth are diametrically opposed goals, and they're not.


I'll agree about this.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:28:35 PM | message detail
^

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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/23/2010 3:30:27 PM | message detail
Heh, big from Brawl.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:31:18 PM | message detail
Whatevs. Still a 4-digit lead.

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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:41:43 PM | message detail
Brawl you have 5 hours and 20 min left, you gotta hurry up a little if you wants to win.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:44:59 PM | message detail
But seriously. Link vs Santa is happening?

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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:46:30 PM | message detail

From: Lucid Faia | #489
But seriously. Link vs Santa is happening?


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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:47:12 PM | message detail
Nice.

Link with another doubling.

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EvilNcr | Posted 12/23/2010 3:48:27 PM | message detail
Yep. Except this time, he's being doubled.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:50:23 PM | message detail
Brawl is going to break 1000 soon.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/23/2010 3:51:02 PM | message detail
Link with 52% would be the best result imo. Link still wins, but Santa does better against him than anyone else has in over three years and popularizes the idea of letting guys like Bats and Vader in.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:51:43 PM | message detail
The picture will make or break Santa.

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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:52:17 PM | message detail
I think it would be lame with characters like Vader and Batman in this tbqh.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/23/2010 3:55:19 PM | message detail
Brawl is winning the California ASV. Looks like it's going to have cut about 150 votes this hour.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/23/2010 3:56:50 PM | message detail
I still believe in a Brawl comeback! Even though everything looks like it's over.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/23/2010 3:56:53 PM | message detail
Play Majora's Mask.

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Denzokuken | Posted 12/23/2010 3:56:55 PM | message detail
Play Santa Claus's Christmas Adventures
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