GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 987
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/22/2010 10:08:42 AM | message detail |
3.
Not in that fantasy adventure/RPG genre that GameFAQs laps up. Nothing
outside this genre has ever won a contest here ever (ever!). L-Block --- That is the key. You have found the answer._ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 10:09:00 AM | message detail |
Damn it. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/22/2010 10:09:19 AM | message detail |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:23:07 PM | message detail Evidently people are getting up later and later, and the day vote now starts at 11 AM instead of 8 AM. With the decline of the ASV as the site trends older, in a few years we might reach day vote parity between weekday and weekend matches! http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3886 Slightly over half of all people on this site wake up between 6:00 AM and 8:00 AM. I doubt that poll would change too much as the site trends older. But yeah, the ASV has gotten weaker lately over the past 2 years or so due to the site trending older. The last age poll with 14-17 as the dominant age group happened on 4/18/2007. Early 2008 might have been the latest known point in time where 14-17 was still the dominant age group on this site. After that 2007 age poll, there wasn't another one until 8/26/2009 when 18-20 and 21-25 both overtook 14-17. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
vcharon | Posted 12/22/2010 10:09:42 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #198 I can give several seemingly logical reasons Zelda would get "backlash" as well I think. Similar to the MGS overload that might have doomed it versus SotC, we've had to look at Zelda in the poll a bunch lately. That coupled with the fact it always wins everything puts it over the top for me. TP was unable to give Brawl a close match, and if I had not seen that I would assume MM would win, however I don't believe MM is significantly stronger than TP. Also, Tetris is a grand adventure/RPG game starring moody hero L-Block. --- :> |
xp1337 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:10:01 AM | message detail |
I've
yet to see any other plausible theory as to how it went from "lol it
has no chance of beating G/S/C" to almost going even with FFX. But if
there are any other theories I'd love to hear them. Call GSC the anomaly and not MM? I mean, this entire argument seems to rely on everyone being right about GSC and that the board being wrong means that something had to be going on. I mean, if you ignore that match, is there any MM match that makes this result seem out of place? GSC only looks odd because the LOL 4 way stats made GSC look like the favorite. It seems to make a lot more sense to question GSC in that match than to question MM. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/352) FFX v Pokemon GSC |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 10:10:10 AM | message detail |
From: -Tofa7- | #199 It's called "got stuck with a Ninty game that rivals OoT for nostalgia". --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/22/2010 10:16:14 AM | message detail |
From: xp1337 | #205 Well... it's kind of weird how a game that can compete 50-50 with FFX gets SFFed by Pokemon R/B/Y down to nearly 35% --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/22/2010 10:17:10 AM | message detail |
On second thought, that poll was 3 N64 games vs. 1 Gameboy game so... I guess you can... kind of cover for it --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
gearofages | Posted 12/22/2010 10:18:13 AM | message detail |
Hasn't that four-way poll been stoned and burned by now? |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 10:19:13 AM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #207 Out of curiosity, wouldn't you expect SM64 to pulverize MM in a similar fashion? Or heck... http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/%287%29Super_Mario_64_vs_%282%29The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time_2004 "SM64 got TRIPLED! No way it has any strength!" --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
xp1337 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:19:37 AM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #207 Well... it's kind of weird how a game that can compete 50-50 with FFX gets SFFed by Pokemon R/B/Y down to nearly 35% I should have clarified. Is there any match in this contest that makes this result seem so out of place? GSC/MM already puts the validity of applying the 4-way stats directly in serious question regarding all of this. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/352) FFX v Pokemon GSC |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 10:20:55 AM | message detail |
From: The n00b Avenger | #207 Yeah RBY just looks freaking insane after today. --- DFF |
gearofages | Posted 12/22/2010 10:23:20 AM | message detail |
Don't forget that MGS was second in that poll. That means that MGS3 gets 65% on MM...oh, wait, nevermind. |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/22/2010 10:24:12 AM | message detail |
or how about we lol 4-ways and move on? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/22/2010 10:24:43 AM | message detail |
Um, no, MGS wasn't even in that poll --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
gearofages | Posted 12/22/2010 10:25:11 AM | message detail |
From: gearo***es | #213 My mistake...first by a large margin. |
TVontheRadio | Posted 12/22/2010 10:25:18 AM | message detail |
From: PartOfYourWorld | #161 From: Djungelurban | #167 guys, i actually live in this hellhole i love so much 22 years of living here and i've only met 2 people who've played Ocarina of ****ing Time and I'm pretty sure 99.99% percent of the votes from here come from Metro Manila, where I live emulation isn't that big here and nostalgia also has a lot to do with it most of the voters who i assume are around my age grew up with FF7 and then FFX not long after, the golden age of gaming, with all the piracy in making tons of fake CDs and DVDs that sold and still sell for $2 a pop nobody grew up with LoZ and fell in love with the series when you're middle class and you can just get a Playstation (and then a PS2 later on) and amass an impressive library of a hundred games, you're not gonna bother with an N64 or a Gamecube where you can probably just own 10 or so legit copies and that was just the trend back then remember when you're parents called any gaming console a Nintendo? people here still call any gaming console a Playstation --- all you need |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 10:25:32 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3462 Are we already forgetting that RBY beat MM, Banjo-Kazooie, and Perfect Dark combined? --- DFF |
xp1337 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:25:39 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #214 or how about we lol 4-ways and move on? That is what I'm getting at! It only gets really troublesome to explain some of these things if you try to remain consistent with the 4-way stats. If you ignore them as LOL 4-way stats, I feel things get a lot simpler. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/352) FFX v Pokemon GSC |
LOLContests | Posted 12/22/2010 10:26:33 AM | message detail |
Occam's Razor would say that G/S/C is the anomaly, not MM. Require less convoluted explanations. --- "Ahem! There is *sand* on my *boot*!"--Kefka Dr. Football beat me, Yesmar in the 2010 Guru Contest! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 10:26:57 AM | message detail |
Damn, awesome and informative post, TV. That really was "all I need." --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 10:29:15 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #218 No, but 4ways can get awful fubared sometimes. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3268 I'm not even sure if Big Boss can score 48% on Kirby in a 1v1. --- Yoblazer: http://i32.tinypic.com/zlf1w7.gif Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 10:29:48 AM | message detail |
The
problem with GSC is that we assumed that 47% on Metal Gear Solid was a
lot better than it actually was. If you throw out the Round 2
cluster****, the results so far line up pretty well. --- DFF |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 10:31:01 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #223 And it still means RBY gets 60%+ on this whole bracket. ~_^ --- Yoblazer: http://8board.webs.com/ariel.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 10:31:51 AM | message detail |
Big Boss is a match pic character. Remember that match pic? http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/cb7/cb7-25.jpg And 4-ways are going to affect the results of characters a lot more than games, anyway. --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 10:32:31 AM | message detail |
RBY definitely overperformed in Round 1, but it aint losing to anything in this bracket, that's for sure! --- DFF |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:32:56 AM | message detail |
RBY
doesn't perform "like a pokemon game" because it wasn't "just a pokemon
game". It wasn't even like FFVII/Mario 64/OoT where it was the "first
3D one" that really set the bar high for all future games of the same
type. It was a god damn global cultural phenomenon. It is like the Star Wars of videogames: everybody has seen it, regardless of how otherwise nerdy they are. I'd posit that RBY has an unrivaled breath of people whose nostalgia it can harness. I don't know that any other game in the last 25 years so uniformly effected people in the US, even if they didn't play the game itself. |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:35:02 AM | message detail |
Not saying RBY could beat FFVII or OoT, just that it really is a weired and unique case. --- "Link has spoken for years. And music is his language" -YoBlazer Philly is the greatest city in the world. Go Flyers! Also WC is better than me. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:36:29 AM | message detail |
Nah,
GSC ended up exactly where we thought it was- a couple points below
FFX, exactly what 47% on MGS suggests. It just turns out MM is FFX's
equal, and got SFF'd by RBY twice. If you want to say MM is overperforming because OOT is not in the contest- wouldn't that mean FFX should also be overperforming, since FFVII is not in the contest? MM = FFX, there's no way around it, you can't get a more legit match than this. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:39:56 AM | message detail |
Indeed, this match is so legit (24 hours, no SFF, no fodder) that it's one of the 4 most legit matches of the past 4 years. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 10:40:45 AM | message detail |
Every stall hurts. Majora can't afford these. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 10:42:08 AM | message detail |
I
kind of want MM to win. Both of these games should have an equal chance
of beating Brawl, but I have a feeling that Brawl anti-votes might
fizzle out of the Nintendo fanbase sees it up against an FF game in the
finals. --- DFF |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 10:42:27 AM | message detail |
What? It's got plenty of time. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:43:47 AM | message detail |
From: SecksThaNemesis | #233 FFX will now gain 100 votes back in the next half hour. --- Sack Up Or Shut Up™ Philly is the greatest city in the world. Go Flyers! Also WC is better than me. |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 10:45:34 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #232 Same. And maybe there will even be some FFX backlash since it just beat a big Nintendo game. --- Yoblazer: http://i43.tinypic.com/25z1non.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
EvilNcr | Posted 12/22/2010 10:45:34 AM | message detail |
The stalls hurt because voting totals decline after 4 PM. --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
The Don Makaveli | Posted 12/22/2010 10:47:10 AM | message detail |
How
the hell is MM to OoT as FFX is to FFVII. I don't get it. MM and OoT
were very similar in terms of gameplay, graphics, music and theme, were
released around the same time and on the same console. FFVII were
released many years apart, on different consoles and played very
differently. Thematically they are fairly similar, granted but there is
no way I see it. Especially because MM is something of a gaiden. You
could say FFX-2 is to FFX as MM is to OoT or maybe even FFVIII to
FFVII, but not FFX and FFVII. In terms of strength I think you'll find
that OoT is ever so slightly stronger than FFVII and FFX is ever so
slightly stronger than MM, so not really the same there either. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:52:14 AM | message detail |
They're
not the same, but it's silly to say that MM is equalling FFX because
OOT is not in the contest, when FFVII is also not in the contest. MM
has strength; part of that comes from being OOT's sequel of course, but
it's consistent, and it will show up every contest, not just those that
OOT isn't in. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
Jmast7 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:53:57 AM | message detail |
Keep stalling, FFX. That was a pretty nice half hour. <_< --- Abed: It's the first season of Lost on DVD. Pierce: That's the meaning of Christmas? Abed: No it's a metaphor. It represents lack of payoff. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 10:54:19 AM | message detail |
FFX probably has this, looking at the last half hour or so. Its day vote is JUST solid enough to hold off the comeback, it looks like. Brawl gonna kill it, though. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/22/2010 10:54:32 AM | message detail |
I'd take Pokemon RBY over any game ever made safe for OoT and FFVII. --- Let me present a great man. The one and only of his kind. Ladies and Gentlemen, it's an honor to give you... CTES... umm... well... oh whatever. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 10:55:17 AM | message detail |
Gah.
All FFX has to do is drop for two updates, just enough to lose the 1000
vote barrier. Come on, MM! Get some cuts in and start rolling! --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 10:56:41 AM | message detail |
You know what's weird? Usually after the contests I'm a bit tired of them, I'm ready for the off-season to start. This one has been SO GOOD that I want another one right away. I want another 12 hr a match character battle, or even another games contest that's 1 on 1 and 12 hrs a match. I'm gonna feel lost with the off-season =( --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
Jmast7 | Posted 12/22/2010 10:58:26 AM | message detail |
From: SecksThaNemesis | #243 Yeah, me too. I really liked the Battle Challenge too - was a really fun addition, even if SotC ruined me... twice. <_< --- "If God hates sin and Satan punishes the sinners, aren't they on the same side? Aren't the judge and executioner on the same team?" |
The Don Makaveli | Posted 12/22/2010 10:58:56 AM | message detail |
I
must disagree though. It's easy to see the logic behind MM being a
proxy for OoT (whether you believe it is happening or not) but FFX and
FVII to my mind are too dissimilar for the logic to really apply. Agree
to disagree though. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:00:03 AM | message detail |
MM by the hour: 1:00 | 50.12% 2:00 | 50.14% 3:00 | 48.44% 4:00 | 48.10% 5:00 | 45.59% 6:00 | 46.30% 7:00 | 46.57% 8:00 | 45.53% 9:00 | 48.94% 10:00 | 47.32% 11:00 | 49.71% 12:00 | 51.38% 13:00 | 52.17% 14:00 | 51.08% Projections: OOT/FFX Round 4: Majora's Mask with 50.77% OOT/FFX Round 5: Majora's Mask with 50.35% --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/22/2010 11:00:43 AM | message detail |
From: SecksThaNemesis | #243 This contest corresponded so well with my school schedule too. It was always a fun diversion to watch in between classes. I'm gonna miss it ;_; --- Around here, I'm the father, the son, and the Holy ****ing Spirit all rolled into one - Red Crow |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/22/2010 11:00:52 AM | message detail |
We've
seen in this contest that Pokemon (games, at least) can SFF and get
SFFd. RBY SFFd Majora in the first round, and round 2 was an overlap
disaster, so it's true strength was hidden. It's probably just that
simple. --- DFF |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 11:01:39 AM | message detail |
red sox projecting dat zelda faith. This diluted day vote crap is kind of annoying though, I have to say --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
Haste_2 | Posted 12/22/2010 11:02:16 AM | message detail |
The matches involving Ocarina of Time and FFX in BGE 2009.... were they school days? I really hope there is some ASV for Majora to take advantage of... otherwise FFX will probably end up with like 50.5%. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. So...what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
