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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:12:20 AM | message detail
Majora would be doomed if this were a 12-hour night match. It'd win easily if it were a 12-hour day match.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:13:24 AM | message detail
If this match has the same trends as Metroid Prime/Fallout 3, then Majora's Mask is going to lose.

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ffdgh1 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:14:08 AM | message detail
well MM has lost <_<
brawl's time 2 shine tomorrow
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 12:15:18 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #351
Majora would be doomed if this were a 12-hour night match. It'd win easily if it were a 12-hour day match.


This is why 12-hour matches suck. =\

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:15:22 AM | message detail
I think Fallout 3 is actually a day oriented game, as people have said. That would explain why it didn't gain very much on MP at night, and continued gaining with the day.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 12:17:22 AM | message detail

From: Lucid Faia | #354
This is why 12-hour matches suck. =\


Eh, fair tradeoff to me. More matches>a tiny discrepancy in who advances.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:17:48 AM | message detail
So uhh...I missed a lot of days again, good show Prime/Majora's Mask/Fallout 3.

...Fallout 3 vs. MGS4, who ya got?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 12:18:08 AM | message detail

From: Haste_2 | #352
If this match has the same trends as Metroid Prime/Fallout 3, then Majora's Mask is going to lose.


Yes, but luckily, Zelda is more day-based than Metroid and FFX is more night-based than Fallout.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:18:52 AM | message detail
How about this: 24 polls per day!

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/22/2010 12:19:27 AM | message detail
How about this: 24 polls per day!

LOL, 1 hour matches.
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ffdgh1 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:19:59 AM | message detail
soo brawl would be all around then then...
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 12:20:01 AM | message detail
yoblazer at his finest.

yoblazer33 3:16 am
We're not into its best time
Give it a few hours. Zelda's intake will be in the duldrums.
ExThaNemesis 3:16 am
I think we're underestimating how much Majora is going to crucify when the sun comes up
and I'm serious here.
Everyone seems to have forgotten the Series final
or what Link did to Cloud in 05 when the sun came up
yoblazer33 3:17 am
Hope so!
Majora winning the contest would be incredible
the ultimate redemption story
ExThaNemesis 3:17 am
>.>
yoblazer33 3:17 am
And the Zelda series would finally get a win
lol
ExThaNemesis 3:17 am
i hate you

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/22/2010 12:20:44 AM | message detail
yoblazer at his finest.

Where did that stuff come from?
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:20:57 AM | message detail
In terms of votes cast, we are now about 2/3 of the way through the night vote. The rest of the night vote (from now until 8 AM) should contain about as many votes as the first 70 minutes of the match, or the second 125 minutes.
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MasterOfOrionII | Posted 12/22/2010 12:21:23 AM | message detail

From: Lucid Faia | #1654
It's arguably the most popular game in the world. Don't confuse a niche population with the "mass gaming public."


This is ironic because the WoW fanbase *is* the niche population compared to the mass gaming public. Again, that game will always have a huge stigma. But I suspect you don't have the ability to be unbiased about WoW, so I'll drop it.

From: Haste_2 | #1752
If this match has the same trends as Metroid Prime/Fallout 3, then Majora's Mask is going to lose.


I think people around here still have a tendency to overrate Metroid's day vote. Metroid is not a day franchise. Majora's Mask is a day game, so this won't have MP/FO3 trends. The day will not be good for FFX. It better hope it avoids getting crushed in the morning/afternoon and can hang on until the SNV - which due to holidays should come earlier than normal, but will be diluted just like the day vote.

MM is probably the favorite right now, although there's still lots of ways this match could go.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/22/2010 12:23:15 AM | message detail

yoblazer33 3:17 am
And the Zelda series would finally get a win
lol


And this is why everyone agrees Yo is a quality user.
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-Tofa7- | Posted 12/22/2010 12:24:53 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | Posted: 12/22/2010 7:20:57 PM | #364
In terms of votes cast, we are now about 2/3 of the way through the night vote. The rest of the night vote (from now until 8 AM) should contain about as many votes as the first 70 minutes of the match, or the second 125 minutes.


When you say things like this it gives me so much hope.

Leader board and a guaranteed prize be damned. I don't care about any of that. If Majora's Mask can make the final and get a chance at being rightfully crowned the GotD, I'll be over the moon.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:24:53 AM | message detail
Listening to the LTTP Dark World Theme right now. How can you hear this and not vote for Zelda? It makes you feel so good about voting for Link.
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 12:25:21 AM | message detail
I'm listening to Clock Town, actually.

I gotta get the MM OST and put that on my iPod.
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ffdgh1 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:29:54 AM | message detail
lol i enjoy the final hours theme. too bad its hard to find one wuth the bells and tremors....
oh and has any 1 ever done the 4th day glitch?
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 12:30:48 AM | message detail

From: MasterOfOrionII | #365
This is ironic because the WoW fanbase *is* the niche population compared to the mass gaming public. Again, that game will always have a huge stigma. But I suspect you don't have the ability to be unbiased about WoW, so I'll drop it.


There are numbers to suggest it might be the most popular game in the world. Do you have any actual evidence to support the notion that it's less respected among the masses than RE4 - a notion I find to be quite silly?

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:33:48 AM | message detail
MM is a slight favorite to me too at this point. If MM just gets 52% of the votes from 8 AM to 6 PM tomorrow, that's 1600 votes right there and should be enough to ensure victory. To get up to our target of 1500 by 8 AM would require FFX to pull in about 57% of the votes between now and then. Considering FFX is below that in Europe, I think that's quite unlikely, though it's true that FFX doesn't really need the 1500 target to win the match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:36:13 AM | message detail
Common sense.

I don't think there's statistical data about it. It's certainly true on Gamefaqs. I suspect if you polled everyone in the world who's bought a game in the last 5 years which they respected more, RE4 or WOW, RE4 would win that too. WOW's sales, while high, are still very small compared to the total size of the industry.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 12:39:47 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #373
I suspect if you polled everyone in the world who's bought a game in the last 5 years which they respected more, RE4 or WOW, RE4 would win that too.


Nonsense. If we go by number of fans, WoW wins in a landslide. If we go by some kind of fan-to-hater ratio, then the most "respected" game of all might be Mother 3.

WoW kind of reminds me of FF7; a small but vocal contingent of haters, but loved by most gamers.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 12:41:10 AM | message detail

From: Lucid Faia | #371
There are numbers to suggest it might be the most popular game in the world. Do you have any actual evidence to support the notion that it's less respected among the masses than RE4 - a notion I find to be quite silly?


We're gonna have to come up with some sort of agreeable definitions for "respected" and "masses." While WoW has obviously been played by more people and is much more well known to people at large, it's also a hell of a lot more "disrespected" than RE5 as well. WoW just has a really bad image among lots of people; it'll always have trouble shaking that.

I'm also not sure how "respected" or loved it is by those few million Chinese guys who use it to put bread on the table. Yeah, it's their job, but at the same time... it's their job.
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SabrielAbhorsen | Posted 12/22/2010 12:43:36 AM | message detail
Well the argument has gotten a bit muddled since the beginning so it probably would be a good idea to clearly define what both sides are saying.
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AxemPink | Posted 12/22/2010 12:43:42 AM | message detail
WoW kind of reminds me of FF7; a small but vocal contingent of haters, but loved by most gamers.

Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kind of delusional and that the WoW hatebase is larger than anything the Final Fantasy hatebase has ever known?
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/22/2010 12:45:13 AM | message detail
What the **** don't ever compare my Final Fantasy VII to that WoW trash.
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Draco1214 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:45:13 AM | message detail
Volume isn't everything. Of those currently active WoW subscribers, how many of them are casual players as opposed to hardcore? How many of them would actually prefer WoW to every other game released this generation? This isn't even touching the negative stigma WoW attracts from people generally, not just gamers. When people hear WoW, they think of those neckbeards in their parents' basements raiding all day. While that's obviously not what WoW players are like generally, it seems to be a pretty popular stereotype among the public.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:45:27 AM | message detail
Not fan to hater ratio, a simple "which do you respect more" question given to all gamers. It's not like FFVII- FFVII beats everything but OOT on this site for all the hate it gets, while WoW has difficulty beating anything stronger than fodder 1v1. I mean, no one's going to be convinced of anything in this discussion. We'll see in 10 years if anything has managed to rise to OOT/FFVII's level on Gamefaqs.

I really should get to sleep. Last projection before I go:

OOT/FFX Round 4: Majora's Mask with 50.43%
OOT/FFX Round 5: Final Fantasy X with 50.34%

That's the first time the average of those projections has shown an MM win. I like that the projections have been trending gradually towards MM- so far at least, it's holding up better with the night vote than OOT did.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 12:46:17 AM | message detail

From: AxemPink | #377
Am I the only one who thinks this sounds kind of delusional and that the WoW hatebase is larger than anything the Final Fantasy hatebase has ever known?


The problem is that there are no numbers to suggest how "hated" WoW is. Everyone is just using personal experiences and anecdotal evidence. In MY experience, I haven't met many haters aside from the usual anti-bandwagon cynics. I'm sure others have had different experiences.

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xp1337 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:47:18 AM | message detail
Yeah, as someone who used to play WoW (stopped towards the end of Burning Crusade), and thinks it's really a great game... I have a really hard time believing it's more "respected" than RE4, as vague and undefinable a measure that might be. Can I back that up with anything other than a gut feeling? No, I can't, but I'm quite confident in it.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 12:47:28 AM | message detail
WoW had an entire South Park episodes stereotyping the destructive, addictive nature of the game. FFVII does poorly in the first hour of GameFAQs contest matches. It... really isn't that close. It's a testament to WoW's popularity that it would even get an entire television episode (from a hugely popular show) all to itself, but how is the game really perceived outside the subscriber base? And are all of those subscribers even fans? Doesn't WoW's China sales rival or exceed its US sales, and aren't most of those China sales used as a money-making tool?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 12:53:08 AM | message detail
Hmm... FFX doesn'' have to kill every update, but it really can't afford these 20 minute stalls.
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vcharon | Posted 12/22/2010 12:53:18 AM | message detail
Cataclysm sold over 3 million in 24 hours, so I'd say the fanbase is fairly devoted.
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vcharon | Posted 12/22/2010 12:53:46 AM | message detail
Also, I'm thinking FFX is doomed. This is not going to hold up during the day.
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MasterOfOrionII | Posted 12/22/2010 12:54:06 AM | message detail
By no reasoning that isn't delusionally biased could WoW be considered more "respected" by the gaming public and gaming media than RE4. I hope you have some grasp of you looney tunes and utterly out of touch you sound to others here :o)

From: red sox 777 | #1860
That's the first time the average of those projections has shown an MM win. I like that the projections have been trending gradually towards MM- so far at least, it's holding up better with the night vote than OOT did.


While MM is the favorite, one thing I'll say is that this is a holiday night vote, it should be more diluted just like the holiday day vote is more diluted. Thus the swings shouldn't be as pronounced as normal.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:55:33 AM | message detail
Having doubts about FFX's ability to even get a 1000 vote lead. I think it probably can manage the 1000, but won't get much beyond that.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 12:55:34 AM | message detail
WoW is more popular and more relevant to gaming history / pop culture. These points can easily be argued. But yo is right; "respect" is a vague concept and it's probably not possible to have an objective argument about it.

From: PartOfYourWorld | #383
Doesn't WoW's China sales rival or exceed its US sales?


Sounds like a rumor. The Chinese gold farming thing exists, but that sounds like a gross exaggeration.

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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 12:57:32 AM | message detail

From: MasterOfOrionII | #387
I hope you have some grasp of you looney tunes and utterly out of touch you sound to others here :o)


Probably about as silly as you sound to me. And please don't presume that you speak for others.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/22/2010 12:58:00 AM | message detail
Pretty sure WoW's China sales exceed its US sales, yeah. It's not all gold farming though- WoW is a really really big game in China. You may have noticed how it and its characters always do really well in China in our contests even.
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Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 1:00:17 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #391
Pretty sure WoW's China sales exceed its US sales, yeah.


I don't doubt that it's popular in China. I'm just skeptical about it exceeding US sales. I'd be happy to admit I'm wrong if you can come up with an article or something that says otherwise.

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xp1337 | Posted 12/22/2010 1:02:30 AM | message detail
Yeah, I'd agree in an instant that WoW is more popular and influential than RE4 was. However, when you bring up "respect" you enter vague/undefinable territory where my gut feeling is that RE4 wins it, and pretty easily.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/22/2010 1:06:30 AM | message detail
So, here we have the best match ever.


Zelda is gonna stomp all over the day.
Lucid Faia | Posted 12/22/2010 1:06:42 AM | message detail

From: xp1337 | #393
Yeah, I'd agree in an instant that WoW is more popular and influential than RE4 was. However, when you bring up "respect" you enter vague/undefinable territory where my gut feeling is that RE4 wins it, and pretty easily.


The whole argument was just a disagreement over the meaning of a word. I was looking at what game is more loved, others were looking at what game is less hated. I don't think it's worth continuing; I'm just gonna drop it.

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koobeeny | Posted 12/22/2010 1:13:56 AM | message detail
Majora's Mask is about to run away with it.

Not like I care anymore. Jesus, I had Half Life 2 and WoW as the final 2 haha.
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/22/2010 1:23:52 AM | message detail
If FFX can't build a better lead the next hours then it's doomed, when NA wakes up.
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MasterOfOrionII | Posted 12/22/2010 1:24:25 AM | message detail
The most Chinese sales being gold farming thing would clearly be an exaggeration, I'm sure it's a sizable population but pretty small compared to the real Chinese subscriber base. I don't think yo really meant that seriously.

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Probably about as silly as you sound to me. And please don't presume that you speak for others.


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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/22/2010 1:31:58 AM | message detail
Actually, I didn't know WoW was actually popular in China and had a real fanbase there (as opposed to a workbase). I really thought they were gold farmers. >_>
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The Immortal Phoenix | Posted 12/22/2010 1:33:24 AM | message detail

From: ctesjbuvf | #397
If FFX can't build a better lead the next hours then it's doomed, when NA wakes up.


Not necessarily, FFX is insanely popular even in NA. It is not that far off (48.4% vs 51.6%) So it could change.
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