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GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/20/2010 9:10:47 PM | message detail
heh
FFX needs to break 55% for me to consider it having a chance against Brawl
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:10:52 PM | message detail
Hmm. Not as much of a fall as I was hoping for.

Still, Brawl will have all night to bleed.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2010 9:12:06 PM | message detail
Fallout 3 has had a damn good contest run. Sure its division were weaker than most, but getting to the Final Four is still a good showing. While I think RE4 is still the strongest Non-Nintendo/Non-Square game, FO3 might be the strongest Western game(that or Portal anyway).
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2010 9:13:54 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #404
And then all day to rise!


Oh right, I forgot we get 24 hours of this s***. Joy.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:13:54 PM | message detail

From: Janus5000 | #402
Hmm. Not as much of a fall as I was hoping for.

Still, Brawl will have all night to bleed.


And all day to rise...!
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Draco1214 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:14:06 PM | message detail
Assuming the GTAs are all equal and that Brawl finishes with 59% on Fallout 3, how does FFX/Brawl come out?
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The Don Makaveli | Posted 12/20/2010 9:14:12 PM | message detail
Looks like if FFX wins I'll be third on the leaderboard (milf_rider). and win the Guru. Is that typical of a guru winner or do they usually win the contest as well. Looking at how close it is, I can't believe a couple of silly decisions I made in order to differentiate my bracket (KOTOR>FFIX, FFXII>Portal). Oh well I'll still be beside myself if FFX manages to do it. I'm happy with my battle top 50 as well.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:14:18 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Most Popular Night Polls
1. Final Fantasy X vs. Resident Evil 4 (R5) – 47531

2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl vs. Super Smash Bros. Melee (R4) – 44413
3. LoZ: Majora’s Mask vs. Chrono Cross (R2) – 44125
4. Final Fantasy X vs. Borderlands (R2) – 43926
5. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Bioshock (R2) – 43262
6. Star Wars: KotOR vs. Devil May Cry (R1) – 43163
7. Halo 3 vs. Super Mario Sunshine (R1) – 42791
8. Final Fantasy X vs. Final Fantasy IX (R4) – 42669
9. Fallout 3 vs. Metroid Prime (R5) – 42502
10. Final Fantasy X vs. Viewtiful Joe (R1) – 42049

Top 10 Most Popular Day Polls
1. LoZ: Twilight Princess vs. Kingdom Hearts II (R4) – 62905
2. Kingdom Hearts vs. CoD: Modern Warfare 2 (R2) – 62381
3. Team Fortress 2 vs. Fable (R1) – 61749
4. LoZ: Majora’s Mask vs. Metal Gear Solid 3 (R5) – 61540
5. LoZ: Twilight Princess vs. Shenmue (R1) – 59254
6. Pokemon RSE vs. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 59134
7. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Halo 2 (R1) – 58733
8. LoZ: Wind Waker vs. Oblivion (R3) – 58079
9. Golden Sun vs. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 57594
10. Super Smash Bros. Brawl vs. LoZ: Twilight Princess (R5) – 57555

Top 10 Most Impressive Night Losers
1. Super Smash Bros. Melee (R4) – 21729
2. Resident Evil 4 (R5) – 20527
3. Metroid Prime (R5) – 20425
4. Super Mario Sunshine (R1) – 20315
5. Tales of Symphonia (R2) – 19489
6. Shadow of the Colossus (R4) – 19107
7. Resident Evil 5 (R1) – 19077
8. Bioshock (R2) – 18918
9. Pokemon GSC (R3) – 18418
10. Diablo II (R2) – 18212

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Fable (R1) – 30856
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 29113
3. Half-Life 2 (R4) – 28121
4. LoZ: Twilight Princess (R5) – 27192
5. Kingdom Hearts II (R4) – 26984
6. Metal Gear Solid 2 (R2) – 26930
7. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 26674
8. Sonic Adventure 2 (R1) – 26673
9. Metal Gear Solid 4 (R3) – 26560
10. Metal Gear Solid 3 (R5) – 26033

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl vs. LoZ: Twilight Princess (R5) – 10.96%
2. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Kingdom Hearts (R3) – 11.70%
3. Metal Gear Solid 3 vs. Shadow of the Colossus (R4) – 13.13%
4. Paper Mario vs. World of Warcraft (R2) – 13.73%
5. LoZ: Majora’s Mask vs. Metal Gear Solid 3 (R5) – 14.79%
6. Shadow of the Colossus vs. Metal Gear Solid 4 (R3) – 15.19%
7. Golden Sun vs. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 16.05%
8. LoZ: Twilight Princess vs. Kingdom Hearts II (R4) – 17.67%
9. Fallout 3 vs. Metroid Prime (R5) – 19.13%
10. Metroid Prime vs. Half-Life 2 (R4) – 20.90%

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/20/2010 9:14:28 PM | message detail
I'll never be able to sit through 24-hour matches again.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2010 9:14:34 PM | message detail
wtf happen there, same time post with the same content
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:14:55 PM | message detail

From: Draco1214 | #407
Assuming the GTAs are all equal and that Brawl finishes with 59% on Fallout 3, how does FFX/Brawl come out?


Depends. Which "All GTAs are equal" number do you want to use: San Andreas, GTA IV, or Vice City?

Since they're all going to be different!
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/20/2010 9:15:00 PM | message detail
I thought Fallout 3 was a day-oriented game. Both Morrowind and Oblivion are, after all.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:15:18 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #410
I'll never be able to sit through 24-hour matches again.


This.

I don't want to wait all day for a 60-40
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:15:22 PM | message detail
Well, yes. Somehow doubt the day gets it back up to this level, but I'm not sure. I've sort of forgotten how 24 hour matches usually go. >_>
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2010 9:15:36 PM | message detail
Also, Jiggy55 is still on the leaderboard.

LOL Black Turtle. Got screwed over by one of his most hated games.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:16:06 PM | message detail
Excellent, Fallout 3. Make people have to wonder who would win between FO3 and RE4 in order to decide the final. Yesssssss
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Draco1214 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:16:26 PM | message detail
Hmmm...good point.

Well, say they are all equal to GTA3 or Vice City, what happens in FFX/Brawl?
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:17:06 PM | message detail
I thought Fallout 3 was a day-oriented game. Both Morrowind and Oblivion are, after all.

It is, but when you're up against Brawl that doesn't matter
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:18:00 PM | message detail
Well, say they are all equal to GTA3 or Vice City, what happens in FFX/Brawl?

FFX wins by over 55%
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/20/2010 9:18:04 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
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238----26----------15.38
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Max Score: 304
Omitted scores got it wrong.

The guys at the top get hammered on this match. Many of them probably had Majora's Mask in the match so I'm surprised they had it get to the match but not further. Just 21 out of the top 101 brackets get the match right. Many of those who got it wrong were from the top of the leaderboard. Unfortunately for BlAcK_TuRtLe, that did not include Jiggy55 who is just one point ahead of him. As you go down the chart, prediction percentage actually goes up into the 40s before fading away. I'm guessing a lot of the higher tiers were supporting GSC or one of the MGS games.

30 people fell off the Top 50 this time. Advokaiser, KennyPT1, Metal_Mercenary, SomeGamerDude, jimbobbo, mrdean55, MerchantTorneko, Swordsman12, Nemo_Incognito, RappinHobo9292, hellfire104, PeaceOut64, gitanil, RandomLoSeR1234, Tequilla_Gundam, Demon_HunterX, Naveplayer, jackalope775, metaIslugg, Giggsalot, Acro_, fruitman456, Glucose7, WarriorRiffs, MadGamer_11, Ultimaphazon, MetalGoomba, Wolf_Kenri, chevaun and Samlink did not have Majora's Mask winning the match.

9 people got it wrong and survived. Former third place bospsychopaat, PrivateBiscuit1, PickleInspector, Prometheus89, PaGz_GF, kneazlegirl, swirld00d, TheOlympicHero and 3rdTimesDeCharm also did not have Majora's Mask winning the match.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:18:15 PM | message detail
There's no way I'd take Fallout 3 over Resident Evil 4. If Brawl finishes lower than this, it's probably game over in the final.

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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/20/2010 9:18:26 PM | message detail
I thought it would matter because it meant that Fallout 3 would not do much during the night. Though I guess Smash is bottom of the barrel bad at night.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:18:36 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | MGS3 | Zelda: MM | Votes
0:05 | 42.97% | 57.03% | 854
1:00 | 42.21% | 57.79% | 8214
2:00 | 42.80% | 57.20% | 6919
3:00 | 42.83% | 57.17% | 6421
4:00 | 42.05% | 57.95% | 6148
5:00 | 41.51% | 58.49% | 5760
6:00 | 42.14% | 57.86% | 5199
7:00 | 41.75% | 58.25% | 4812
8:00 | 41.51% | 58.49% | 4230
9:00 | 42.86% | 57.14% | 3913
10:00 | 42.29% | 57.71% | 3658
11:00 | 42.56% | 57.44% | 3273
12:00 | 43.64% | 56.36% | 2993

Not much shifting here, indicating that a lot of schools being out diluted the ASV here.

Fourth Quarter Stats

The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask – 50.00%
Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal – 44.05%
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker – 43.21%
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater – 42.30%
Shadow of the Colossus – 41.78%
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty – 41.74%
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots – 41.42%
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion – 37.85%
Diablo 2 – 37.38%
Paper Mario – 35.96%
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door – 33.94%
Assassin’s Creed II – 33.83%
Chrono Cross – 32.90%
God of War II – 31.15%
Marvel vs. Capcom 2 – 30.58%
Assassin’s Creed – 30.24%
New Super Mario Bros. Wii – 29.63%
World of Warcraft – 29.38%
SoulCalibur II – 28.42%
Gears of War – 27.27%
ICO – 25.79%
Mario Kart Wii – 25.67%
The Sims – 25.60%
Banjo-Tooie – 25.31%
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King – 25.08%
Animal Crossing – 24.36%
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – 23.88%
Advance Wars – 23.54%
Katamari Damacy – 20.04%
TimeSplitters 2 – 19.58%
Eternal Darkness: Sanity’s Requiem – 19.20%
Wii Sports – 16.60%
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/20/2010 9:19:55 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #416
who would win between FO3 and RE4


Well, if you think Portal is stronger than HL2, RE4 would definitely be the favorite(51% on MP with is relatively equal to HL2 vs 55% on Portal).
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The Don Makaveli | Posted 12/20/2010 9:20:31 PM | message detail
Bleed Brawl, Bleed!
Draco1214 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:20:53 PM | message detail
FFX wins by over 55%

Awww yeah

Make your time, Brawl.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/20/2010 9:21:00 PM | message detail
The guys at the top get hammered on this match. Many of them probably had Majora's Mask in the match so I'm surprised they had it get to the match but not further. Just 21 out of the top 101 brackets get the match right. Many of those who got it wrong were from the top of the leaderboard. Unfortunately for BlAcK_TuRtLe, that did not include Jiggy55 who is just one point ahead of him. As you go down the chart, prediction percentage actually goes up into the 40s before fading away. I'm guessing a lot of the higher tiers were supporting GSC or one of the MGS games.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:21:05 PM | message detail
Yessssss

YESSSSSSSSSSSS

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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/20/2010 9:21:23 PM | message detail
That's a lot of Brawl brackets on the leader board, even discounting Luster's army. I might actually have a shot at getting on there if FFX can pull it off.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:23:23 PM | message detail
Fallout 3 doing well. Smash actually typically ends around where it is at the end of the power hour in 24-hour matches, while WRPGs usually have a bad power hour. So, don't think Brawl can get 60% in this match- Fallout can perhaps push 43%, which would be very nice to see. Overnight it could get as high as 46% before going back down with the day vote.
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 12/20/2010 9:23:32 PM | message detail
ya go my paper mario
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/20/2010 9:24:14 PM | message detail
3:00 | 42.83% | 57.17% | 6421
4:00 | 42.05% | 57.95% | 6148


That looks like a diluted ASV to me. With a normal ASV, the 3:00-4:00 PM hour would have gotten slightly more votes than 2:00-3:00 PM.
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:25:17 PM | message detail
BLEED
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CP724 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:25:31 PM | message detail
wow
red sox 777 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:25:51 PM | message detail
And if Fallout 3 can reach 46% overnight, or even 45%, that means it may win an hour or two in the deep night. FFX would slaughter Smash in the dead zone (only to get slaughtered with the day vote).
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Gooper Blooper | Posted 12/20/2010 9:26:18 PM | message detail
The bleeding is so drastic you'd think Fallout would start cutting.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:26:24 PM | message detail

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #414

From: PartOfYourWorld | #410
I'll never be able to sit through 24-hour matches again.
This.

I don't want to wait all day for a 60-40


Ok, 55-45. Either way.
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vcharon | Posted 12/20/2010 9:26:53 PM | message detail
I'm pretty sure Brawl will be winning this no matter what the percentage of this ends up being.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/20/2010 9:26:55 PM | message detail
Out of curiosity, for anyone he keeps track of this stuff (TRE, I'm looking at you), a friend of mine is 18th right now, with 4 people ahead of him taking FFX. If he gets 14th, what are the chances there's 6+ brackets ahead of him that aren't prize brackets?
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:27:18 PM | message detail
53.53% update for Brawl. Fallout's going to win many updates during the night, probably. It's actually NOT being embarassed!

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:27:29 PM | message detail
Excellent.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:28:12 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #441
I'm pretty sure Brawl will be winning this no matter what the percentage of this ends up being.


Keep telling yourself that, darling.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2010 9:29:43 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #395
But it didn't because more people liked Brawl.


Not in the parts of the world I care about.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/20/2010 9:30:48 PM | message detail
Also, poor BT :(
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-Tofa7- | Posted 12/20/2010 9:30:50 PM | message detail
Awesome, assuming a Brawl > FFX final happens, I'm guaranteed a prize. Wish I wasn't outside the US or Canada, some free games would be awesome.

Still, at least there's a decent chance of me getting a Private Board. Any ideas for names?

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/20/2010 9:30:55 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #446
Not in the parts of the world I care about.


Okay, SmartMuffin.
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/20/2010 9:32:34 PM | message detail
Okay, so if FFX wins the winner will most likely either be a lazy bum or an insane sage. Huh.

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