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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/19/2010 1:27:31 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #096
MM2 has the best 8-bit soundtrack by far.


Vouch
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:30:12 PM | message detail
OOT wins with Zelda 1, Zelda 2, OOS/OOA, PH, Minish Cap, etc. though. Maybe even with LA/MM/WW, but it will have to SFF them like nothing we've ever seen before.
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creativename | Posted 12/19/2010 1:31:45 PM | message detail
I hate the Eagles. I hate DeSean Jackson.

I actually like Michael Vick, but screw him too.

I have the distinctive urge to pull an Extha like meltdown.
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transience | Posted 12/19/2010 1:32:48 PM | message detail
didn't watch it, but it sounds like the Giants were the one with the meltdown!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:33:05 PM | message detail
LOL creative

LOL Giants
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 1:33:38 PM | message detail
Yeah that was all a bunch of Giants lol
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:34:08 PM | message detail
Well at least we can say that the Eagles are clearly better than the Giants.

>_>
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:34:09 PM | message detail

From: transience | #104
didn't watch it, but it sounds like the Giants were the one with the meltdown!


Sounds like business as usual!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/19/2010 1:34:36 PM | message detail
XD Giaints
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:43:17 PM | message detail
Heh, TP has won the last 30 minutes outright.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:45:25 PM | message detail
The winner of this contest should tell SBAllen to make a bonus poll with OOT,FF 7 and the winning game of this contest.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/19/2010 1:45:37 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #103
I hate the Eagles. I hate DeSean Jackson.

I actually like Michael Vick, but screw him too.

I have the distinctive urge to pull an Extha like meltdown.


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creativename | Posted 12/19/2010 1:45:50 PM | message detail

From: transience | #504
didn't watch it, but it sounds like the Giants were the one with the meltdown!


cute

real cute

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:49:25 PM | message detail
The winner of this match will beat Fallout 3 worse than TP right?That is bad but hey...
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:50:37 PM | message detail
Fallout 3 gon' get creamed
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transience | Posted 12/19/2010 1:56:07 PM | message detail
Fallout 3/Smash is going to show us just how stacked these divisions were. I expect the top 5-6 games in the stats to come from division 3/4 when we do the top half's stats.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:04:40 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be surprised if Fallout 3 ends up lower than Super Mario Galaxy.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/19/2010 2:05:20 PM | message detail
Fallout 3 being a semi finalist is an absolute joke. I can name more than half a dozen games from the bottom half divisions that would comfortably beat it.

- KH2
- KH1
- Wind Waker
- Metal Gear solid 2
- Metal gear solid 4
- Shadow of the colossus
- Melee
- Pokemon Gold
- Zelda Wind Waker

and that's non finalists.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:09:36 PM | message detail
I was fine with the way SBAllen did it to give some of the lesser games a chance, but he should have gone all out. Call of Duty 4, Pokemon DPP, Final Fantasy IX, Super Mario Galaxy, Oblivion, Diablo II...

It could have been even crazier.
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transience | Posted 12/19/2010 2:11:15 PM | message detail
yeah I liked it too. he could have stacked it a bit better, but for a 'natural' setup, it worked well.
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EvilNcr | Posted 12/19/2010 2:13:01 PM | message detail
SBAllen purposely set up difficult to predict matches and big series matches to prevent a swarm of same-series games in the later rounds. I really support that actually since it made it a bit more fun. If we want to see which game is really stronger, we can just use x-stats.
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Intanos VI | Posted 12/19/2010 2:14:53 PM | message detail
TP or MM, who's stronger? MM winning the contest doesn't look that unlikely any more.
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EvilNcr | Posted 12/19/2010 2:15:58 PM | message detail
TP looked stronger to me. Especially after the ass-whooping it delivered on KH2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 2:16:14 PM | message detail
TP > MM
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:16:23 PM | message detail
TP finally stalled Brawl's percentage gains and cut a bit of percentage the last hour.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2010 2:18:01 PM | message detail
TP is stronger. FFX is going to cream MM. I'd take FFX to be over 60% on GSC, and that's without SFF
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:18:59 PM | message detail
New victory odds as determined by me:

SSBB 5:3
MM 6:1
FFX 8:1
RE4 9:1
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Intanos VI | Posted 12/19/2010 2:21:05 PM | message detail
So of all the games that came out during or after the PSX/N64 era, it goes something like..

OoT > FFVII > Brawl > Melee > TP = FFX and then MM and Resident Evil 4 not far behind.

As far as right now is concerned. Obviously FFX could prove to be stronger than Brawl but as it stands, is that the general consensus?
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:23:49 PM | message detail
RBY is probably stronger than Brawl. MGS1 is around FFX's level.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:26:37 PM | message detail
OOT > FFVII > RBY >= SM64 > Brawl >= Melee > TP >=MGS = FFX >= MM
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:26:57 PM | message detail
Also, preliminary odds on our wonderful 1v1 no generational divisions games contest:

LTTP 4:1
RBY 4:1
SM64 6:1
SSBB 8:1
CT 12:1
SSBM 12:1
SMW 15:1
SMB3 16:1
WOW 20:1
MGS 25:1
FFX 25:1
TP 25:1
RE4 25:1
SC 30:1
GE 40:1
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 2:28:22 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #131
WOW 20:1


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charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:28:36 PM | message detail
CT 12:1
SSBM 12:1


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charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:29:31 PM | message detail
Starcraft 2 w/Huskey

2:1
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:34:23 PM | message detail
Bah, I realized I messed up Brawl's odds. By 5:3 I meant 3:5. Of course Brawl is more likely than not to win the contest.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/19/2010 2:45:04 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #130
OOT > FFVII > RBY >= SM64 > Brawl >= Melee > TP >=MGS = FFX >= MM


I'm sure that SMW and SM64 would defeat SM64.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:58:26 PM | message detail
SM64 went even with LTTP while SMW and SMB3 were beaten down around 60-40. Even with SMB3/SMW LFF, which looked small earlier in the contest, SM64 should come out ahead there.
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KCF0107 | Posted 12/19/2010 2:59:58 PM | message detail
Is there an X-Stats generator, preferably one that is user friendly, online?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 3:07:41 PM | message detail

From: KCF0107 | #138
Is there an X-Stats generator, preferably one that is user friendly, online?


http://thengamer.com/xstats/
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/19/2010 3:24:37 PM | message detail
I missed a Melee/Brawl argument? Aw.

From: red sox 777 | #061
I see it this way. Casual fans basically see Melee and Brawl as the same- and most of them slightly favor Brawl judging by the poll results we got. So, perhaps they rate Brawl a 7.1 and Melee a 7.0. Serious Smash fans on the other hand, rate Melee at 9.5 and Brawl around 2.0. But a vote counts the same no matter how much you prefer one game to the other, so Brawl won, and that naturally makes Melee fans angry. Our game lost because of people who don't even like Smash much who barely prefer Brawl having their votes count the same.


This is pretty much entirely correct, though.

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KCF0107 | Posted 12/19/2010 3:28:55 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #139
http://thengamer.com/xstats/


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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/19/2010 3:29:08 PM | message detail
Seriously man, of course you can be a serious smash fan no matter in which order you like the games. Although I must say people who loves them all, but likes Brawl a little better than Melee, could be considered bigger fans than people who hate one of the games.
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Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/19/2010 3:30:47 PM | message detail
I see it this way. Casual fans basically see Melee and Brawl as the same- and most of them slightly favor Brawl judging by the poll results we got. So, perhaps they rate Brawl a 7.1 and Melee a 7.0. Serious Smash fans on the other hand, rate Melee at 9.5 and Brawl around 2.0. But a vote counts the same no matter how much you prefer one game to the other, so Brawl won, and that naturally makes Melee fans angry. Our game lost because of people who don't even like Smash much who barely prefer Brawl having their votes count the same.

You're really assuming too much about other people based on no evidence. Why couldn't a serious Smash fan rate both games a 9.5 or 10 and prefer Brawl? That's certainly where I fall.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 3:35:34 PM | message detail
So I guess that people that really prefer Melee and hate Brawl are the ones that are really competetive and take gaming as serious business right?Nobody likes those people.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 3:37:53 PM | message detail
There's plenty of evidence. Just look at Smashboards (or this board, for that matter). Of course it doesn't apply to everyone, and it's not like you can't be a serious Smash fan and like Brawl (for example Stingers is a tourney player and prefers Brawl). I think it's true for most people.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/19/2010 3:38:15 PM | message detail
I think everyone here is forgetting that this contest isn't about the better game. It's about what people like more. Brawl was definitely the more competitive and fun game to larger numbers of people (you had much less of blowouts with lower-level players because SmashBalls always give you a chance to equalize) by evening out characters and making some strong items to help even things out. Critically it may not have been as good, but it was definitely more popular.
Complaining based on which game is better to those who know more is like complaining that Citizen Kane lost in a vote-off to Shrek. Citizen Kane is critically regarded as the greatest movie ever. But I guarantee you that more people enjoed watching Shrek more.
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 3:47:30 PM | message detail
Also, 1v1s are more fun (or vice versa) than 4-ways in Smash for exactly the same reasons as 1v1s are more fun 4-ways in contests. Sorry, but it's the truth.......it's fine if you prefer 4-ways in either, or in one but not the other; just recognize it for what it is! As far as contests go, we are the people who take it super seriously and want the better game to win, just as "serious" players want the better player to win. We want meaningful matches that actually determine strength rather than random matches too marred by LFF for us to really care which game won. Basically, any of the major reasons people give to prefer 4-ways in Smash, equally apply to our contests.

And some people want that- they want a random, crazy, party game- just as some people want a random crazy contest in which the strongest character doesn't always win.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/19/2010 4:00:19 PM | message detail
How do the first quarter stats look like if GTAIII is held constant to where it currently is and Halo is given its '09 percentage against GTAIII, with the rest of that half division adjusted?
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transience | Posted 12/19/2010 4:02:42 PM | message detail
I'd give Brawl a 9 and Melee a 7.5 or an 8. there are so many disparaging remarks people make with Brawl. I don't get it. apparently if you like it, you don't care about games.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 4:17:49 PM | message detail
Also, 1v1s are more fun (or vice versa) than 4-ways in Smash for exactly the same reasons as 1v1s are more fun 4-ways in contests.

While true I prefer randomness in my Smash game, but not so much for stats.
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