GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 983
WhiteLens | Posted 12/19/2010 12:32:15 PM | message detail |
And I hope SBAllen has that too so I'll actually be able to stay ahead of him in bracket score. >_> --- Can you overcome me? |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/19/2010 12:38:27 PM | message detail |
From: Lightning Strikes | #048 Hey we still bros. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ You and me could write a bad romance. |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/19/2010 12:38:41 PM | message detail |
I
like how TP just randomely cut Brawl there. 52-53% is still pretty
close, at least there will be 4-5 games by the end with similar
strength. Also i wouldn't count Majoras mask out quite yet... --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1499384/me3-o.gif |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2010 12:45:25 PM | message detail |
ExThaNemesis Posted 12/19/2010 2:43:49 PM message detail filter #491 Brawl fans are literally hilarious. We spit out all the reasons why the game is flawed, why we prefer Melee, why Brawl is technically inferior in almost every way, INCLUDING DIRECT QUOTES FROM THE DEVELOPER OF BOTH GAMES, and all the Brawl fans can say is "WELL MORE PEOPLE AGREE WITH ME." How utterly pathetic. As opposed to Melee fans, when I spit out reasons why it is flawed and Brawl is a much more fun game in almost every way, and all the Melee fans can say is "LOL U JUST SUCK AT MELEE" --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 12:48:22 PM | message detail |
Man, who wouldn't want to be in Equilibrium. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/19/2010 12:50:40 PM | message detail |
If we could do gun katas, I can live with that. --- "You brought your *****, to the waffle hut?" |
transience | Posted 12/19/2010 12:52:28 PM | message detail |
"slightest amount of bitterness" doesn't apply to you, ExTha. you take bitterness to the extreme. the Brawl/Melee thing is kinda fascinating because it just doesn't seem that different to me. the amount of venom Melee fans spew at Brawl is kind of amazing to me. and this isn't me being uncaring -- Brawl's probably in my top 25 and Melee's a fine game too! I'd say fans of lower-tier RPGs are the worst, if you wanted to judge. anti-fans are probably the worst of the worst if you want to go that route, but that's generally what lower-tier RPG fans are: dismissive of the mainstream. --- xyzzy |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 12:54:06 PM | message detail |
I'd say fans of lower-tier RPGs are the worst back off old man --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
transience | Posted 12/19/2010 12:56:02 PM | message detail |
you've been calling me old man since I was your age so back off, old man --- xyzzy |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/19/2010 12:57:59 PM | message detail |
Cripple Fight! $50 bucks on the old guy with the cane! --- "You brought your *****, to the waffle hut?" |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/19/2010 12:59:12 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #054 That's because you do. It's quite simple really. Even Sakura himself said Melee was the "sharpest" which basically means it got the best battle mechanics and was made for core players in mind. This is undeniable factual evidence. Denying it just makes you look foolsih. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1499384/me3-o.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:03:02 PM | message detail |
the
Brawl/Melee thing is kinda fascinating because it just doesn't seem
that different to me. the amount of venom Melee fans spew at Brawl is
kind of amazing to me. and this isn't me being uncaring -- Brawl's
probably in my top 25 and Melee's a fine game too! I see it this way. Casual fans basically see Melee and Brawl as the same- and most of them slightly favor Brawl judging by the poll results we got. So, perhaps they rate Brawl a 7.1 and Melee a 7.0. Serious Smash fans on the other hand, rate Melee at 9.5 and Brawl around 2.0. But a vote counts the same no matter how much you prefer one game to the other, so Brawl won, and that naturally makes Melee fans angry. Our game lost because of people who don't even like Smash much who barely prefer Brawl having their votes count the same. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:06:28 PM | message detail |
And
that makes me sound like more of a Melee fan than I actually am, or
would be but for the contests, anyway. I honestly don't even find Melee
that fun.....it wouldn't be close to my top games list. I'd easily
prefer FFX to Melee if it were not for these contests. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:06:29 PM | message detail |
Whoa, Brawl just spiked big time. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2010 1:08:28 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #062 I like Smash a lot and I prefer Brawl. Is it so hard to understand people don't find boring "tournament mode" smash more exciting than a good party game? --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
transience | Posted 12/19/2010 1:09:00 PM | message detail |
am
I alone in thinking TP could make a match of this at night? Brawl has a
one-of-a-kind day vote, better than KH2 which is better than TP. I prefer Brawl by more than a little bit - I like the characters more and the stages more and the music more. to me, GameFAQs's bias towards old nostalgic favourites is the only reason Melee is close there. all I'm saying is that Melee is also a fine game and the venom just seems misguided. it'd be like Mega Man 2 fans calling out Mega Man 3. --- xyzzy |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:09:25 PM | message detail |
I
see it this way. Casual fans basically see Melee and Brawl as the same-
and most of them slightly favor Brawl judging by the poll results we
got. So, perhaps they rate Brawl a 7.1 and Melee a 7.0. Serious Smash
fans on the other hand, rate Melee at 9.5 and Brawl around 2.0. But a
vote counts the same no matter how much you prefer one game to the
other, so Brawl won, and that naturally makes Melee fans angry. Our
game lost because of people who don't even like Smash much who barely
prefer Brawl having their votes count the same. you also see it wrong. Being a "casual" Smash fan in the "I don't go to tournaments and do wavethings" sense does not equate to being a "casual" Smash fan in the "I only kinda like this" sense. Brawl is like my seventh favorite game, and before Brawl rendered it pretty much obsolete to me, Melee filled that spot. I love the games, I just don't love serious competitive hardcore playing. I don't think I'm an isolated incident, either. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/19/2010 1:09:33 PM | message detail |
From: transience | #057 Imagine they changed FIFA/Madden by making it slower, have you falling over with the ball and remove a lot of the skills. But most people don't complain because it's easier to learn, has more and better teams, more features like replay + pitch builder/online and better graphics. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1499384/me3-o.gif |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 1:09:57 PM | message detail |
Mega Man 3 does kinda pale in comparison to Mega Man 2! --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 1:10:36 PM | message detail |
have you falling over with the ball Sounds like real soccer! --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/19/2010 1:11:07 PM | message detail |
Yes Ulti Anyway From: TheKoolAidShoto | #050 It's not not letting it go. It's more a critical case of http://dan.boondoggies.com/slowpoke.jpg I get sidetracked with other things sometimes! --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:11:49 PM | message detail |
btw, random curiousity here: Assassin_Thane, do you consider SSB a fighting game? --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/19/2010 1:11:59 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #062 You make a good point but i would say casuals prefer Brawl WAY more. It just has far more content than Melee and more recognisable,likable characters. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1499384/me3-o.gif |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:12:30 PM | message detail |
Well
obviously there are big Smash fans who like Brawl, they're just a small
minority of Smash fans. I do question how much you can like Smash if
you only see it as a party game though. Could a casual party game be
your favorite game? Could you love it the way I love, say, Chrono
Trigger or Ocarina of Time? I guess it's possible, but it'll be very
rare. The other thing I don't understand is why people think any Smash game played in a party-style way (4-ways instead of 1v1s) is fun. I've always thought it was boring, since SSB64. But I've accepted a long time ago that I'm in a small minority of people with that opinion. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:14:25 PM | message detail |
From: MoogleKupo141 | #067 No way, if you prefer Brawl, you clearly don't care about the series at all. NOT LIKE REAL (MELEE) FANS DO anyway --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
pjbasis | Posted 12/19/2010 1:15:04 PM | message detail |
I played n64 smash religiously until Melee came out, and then played that for the 7 years until Brawl's release. Now I play Brawl a lot. I play the other two now and then, but I tend to just stick to the newest. I like em all for different reasons though. |
pjbasis | Posted 12/19/2010 1:15:51 PM | message detail |
From: The Mana Sword | #309 NUH UH I would even say the soundtrack edges 2's out! |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:16:03 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #074 ...Do you really think the people pushing Brawl to victory are hardcore, 1-on-1, Final Destination-only players? Heck, do you think it'd be the case if it were Melee here instead of Brawl? --- http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/2369/mythbattlers.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/Sensui22/1248835958206.png |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 1:16:17 PM | message detail |
surely you jest --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:16:49 PM | message detail |
you
also see it wrong. Being a "casual" Smash fan in the "I don't go to
tournaments and do wavethings" sense does not equate to being a
"casual" Smash fan in the "I only kinda like this" sense. Brawl is like
my seventh favorite game, and before Brawl rendered it pretty much
obsolete to me, Melee filled that spot. I love the games, I just don't
love serious competitive hardcore playing. I don't think I'm an
isolated incident, either. My guess would be that people like you are fairly rare. You never hear people say Brawl is their favorite game, and rather few for Melee too. Of our elite games, OOT, FFVII, CT, LTTP, RBY, FFX, MGS- all these have many people who claim them as their #1 favorite. Not so much for Smash or the classic Mario games. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:17:08 PM | message detail |
Well obviously there are big Smash fans who like Brawl, they're just a small minority of Smash fans. The small minority of Smash fans are the Ulti-types. I think your perception of the situation is really misguided here. I do question how much you can like Smash if you only see it as a party game though. Could a casual party game be your favorite game? Could you love it the way I love, say, Chrono Trigger or Ocarina of Time? I guess it's possible, but it'll be very rare. I enjoy games that are fun. I find few games to be as much fun as the Super Smash Bros. series. Add in a ton of stuff that invokes nostalgia for other games I love, and yeah. It's really easy for Brawl to be one of my favorite games. The other thing I don't understand is why people think any Smash game played in a party-style way (4-ways instead of 1v1s) is fun. And I can't understand how anyone has fun with no items, 1 v 1, on like six levels. So yeah. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:17:43 PM | message detail |
Red
sox pretty much hit the nail on the head. The thing is those hardcore
Smash fans make up less than 1% of the total fans and them trying to
act like over half the fans think like that is quite funny. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 204/256 Today's Matches: HL2 & SSBB |
transience | Posted 12/19/2010 1:18:31 PM | message detail |
SF3
and SF4 fans are like Brawl and Melee fans. SF3 is a faster, more fluid
game to the more campy and measured SF4 but average fans like SF4 a lot
more. Mega Man 3 has sliding worst ever --- xyzzy |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:18:45 PM | message detail |
...Do you really think the people pushing Brawl to victory are hardcore, 1-on-1, Final Destination-only players? Heck, do you think it'd be the case if it were Melee here instead of Brawl? You mean against Twilight Princess today? Of course not. Most of the Smash fanbase is definitely casual, for both games (more for Brawl than Melee). Not sure how that's relevant...... --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/19/2010 1:19:22 PM | message detail |
(4-ways instead of 1v1s) I think I see the problem here. This is clearly a CS&D issue! --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/19/2010 1:19:56 PM | message detail |
From: red sox 777 | #084 You're asking how people could consider Smash Bros. one of their favorite games if it's just a party game. But there have to be quite a few people who rank the game way up there if this thing's going to win this whole contest and is a potential top 5 game. And most of those fans are casual, I'd imagine. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/19/2010 1:21:17 PM | message detail |
From: pjbasis | #077 MM2's Wily's Castle Theme > MM3's soundtrack > MM2's Soundtrack --- "You brought your *****, to the waffle hut?" |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:21:19 PM | message detail |
So Nintendofaqs prevail eh?Why I am not suprised? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:21:23 PM | message detail |
My
guess would be that people like you are fairly rare. You never hear
people say Brawl is their favorite game, and rather few for Melee too.
Of our elite games, OOT, FFVII, CT, LTTP, RBY, FFX, MGS- all these have
many people who claim them as their #1 favorite. Not so much for Smash
or the classic Mario games. I don't pay enough attention to people randomly proclaiming their favorite games to really be able to speak to this, but I would think the fact that Melee and Brawl both were seeded quite well in this contest would indicate that a large amount of people (here, at least) consider them among their favorite games. Whether that's as number 1 or number 3 or whatever, I don't really see how that matters. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:22:08 PM | message detail |
Melee was (and still is) a very casual game. Those games can have decent strength too. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 204/256 Today's Matches: HL2 & SSBB |
MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:22:49 PM | message detail |
So Nintendofaqs prevail eh?Why I am not suprised? literally 100% of games in today's poll are Nintendo games what the **** is your point. You're not surprised because there was literally no possibility that a non-Nintendo game could win this match. --- For your health. At least Kupo has class and doesn't MESSAGE the people -Dr Pizza |
pjbasis | Posted 12/19/2010 1:23:04 PM | message detail |
The Wily level 1-2 is the only reason I'd consider putting MM2's soundtrack above too. That might be the most correct way of thinking it. But damn Wily level 3-4 in MM3 kicks ass. |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/19/2010 1:23:04 PM | message detail |
From: MoogleKupo141 | #072 It's a 2D 3D party fighter because at the end of the day that's what Nintendo marketed it as. But behind all the flash is some real underrated substance. I played melee enough and was really good at it(could do all advance moves easily and mimicked world record target/home run contests records) I wasn't like those experts but i was pretty damn good.and after the novelty of a "Party" game wore off people DID play it as a fighter, but it was more of a multplyer brawler. You can't compare it to 1 on 1 fighters exactly, but it has it's strengths. Brawl on the other hand just doesn't have the depth, i played brawl for a month after it came out and never touched it again. I will give Brawl credit, but because the core mechanic is different it's hard for me to give it points where it really matters. Brawl DID have more challening AI, even if they cheat alot. And it did have an amazing theme song and stage builder feature. That's about it. They dumbed down so many of my mains from Melee it's not even funny. --- http://www.gifsoup.com/view2/1499384/me3-o.gif |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/19/2010 1:23:14 PM | message detail |
A
party game being voted one of the best games ever shouldn't be
especially surprising. Look how many top games lists have the likes of
Goldeneye. And more recently, sutff like CoD4 is seen very highly as a
game. There is a place for the more casual multiplayer experiences like
Smash Bros. simply because a lot of people see them as fun. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:23:30 PM | message detail |
That
shows it has a lot of casual support. Lack of people who consider a
game their #1 isn't a crushing impediment in almost all cases- Smash
doesn't need to be someone's favorite game to get a vote, just liked
better than the other game. Against the really high end games (FFVII
and OOT), it'll hurt, but then, no games can hope to match those two in
number of people who consider them their #1 on this site. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/19/2010 1:24:52 PM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #087 MM2 has the best 8-bit soundtrack by far. Crash Man, Wily 2, Quick Man off the top of my head. --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
transience | Posted 12/19/2010 1:24:54 PM | message detail |
curious - let's say Bacon runs a FF7/OOT/Brawl poll. what wins? --- xyzzy |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:26:17 PM | message detail |
let's say Bacon runs a FF7/OOT/Brawl poll. what wins? FFVII --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 204/256 Today's Matches: HL2 & SSBB |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/19/2010 1:27:08 PM | message detail |
From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #065 Oh not at all, and I don't mind people thinking that way. It's just Sakurai could have done both and willingly chose one. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v198/Burgess/1279169521588.png |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/19/2010 1:27:10 PM | message detail |
FF7 42% OOT 40% SSBB 18% Unless of course the "drones" take over, in which case: OOT 43% FFVII 42% SSBB 15% --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |