GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 981
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:30:20 AM | message detail |
I
know I said it was obviously the strongest on the podcast, but I'm not
sure that's true. I think it's benefiting SO HEAVILY from the night
match here and if it were a day match, the bandwagon would have run it
over just like it did MGS4. I think the bandwagon overall had muddied what the strongest MGS game is. I still feel like it's gotta be 4 > 3 > 2 for some reason. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
creativename | Posted 12/18/2010 1:35:34 AM | message detail |
From: Greyfeld | #956 The fact that MGS2 is equal in strength to MGS3 and MGS4 - two games held in much higher esteem - is the *exact reason* that people are calling MGS fans drones! Of course that's mostly in jest. But there is some truth to it. MGS games are pretty similar, but then, so are Pokemon games and such. Yet they diverge largely in strength. Pretty much every series with 3 or more games has a significant divergence in strength between the strongest and weakest. The three MGS games in the bracket are startlingly similar in strength, even though their reception and "respect factor" varies greatly. MGS2 has no business being as strong as the other two, yet it clearly is. I wouldn't be surprised if even the original MGS isn't all that much stronger than MGS2, which is pretty hard to understand via any sort of logic other than "drones LOL". --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/18/2010 1:37:32 AM | message detail |
Last
time round it was pretty clearly 1 >= 4 > 3 > 2. This time
round they're all much closer, but I'd expect 3 > 2 >= 4. Depends what you think of Paper Mario and Diablo II, I suppose. I'd be amazed if 3 wasn't easily the strongest next time round after its 3DS release. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:38:40 AM | message detail |
Argh at that update. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/18/2010 1:39:25 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #202 It really isn't. I say this as the biggest fan of the game there is. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· Is a momentary gleam all you need? |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/18/2010 1:40:12 AM | message detail |
I'm
surprised this match has been as close as it's been, because
wire-to-wire matches are so difficult to pull off in night matches
because of Europe and Asia. That's because Europe and Asia often
heavily deviate from the worldwide result, causing one game to have a
clear advantage in the night vote. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
pjbasis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:43:53 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #1002 MGS2 may have some haters, but in exchange, I think it also produced the most loyal fans. Not sure how to say this, but it's more than just thinking 2>the rest. It's like... thinking it's one of your favorite games of all time, and you'd vote for it over most anything. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:44:02 AM | message detail |
UK waking up and ruining this match nooooo =( --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
AxemPink | Posted 12/18/2010 1:47:13 AM | message detail |
Yeah, the last few updates make me think "over." |
The Real Truth | Posted 12/18/2010 1:48:19 AM | message detail |
MGS2 is much better than 4. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/18/2010 1:49:31 AM | message detail |
UK waking up and ruining this match nooooo =( Vouch that that is exactly what I just did. --- And happy with it. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:49:52 AM | message detail |
No it isn't. 3 > 4 > 2 >>> 1. and I guess it's not over if it just loses like 10 an update and then convincingly wins in the morning. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:50:27 AM | message detail |
From: nintendogirl1 | #211 you geordies ruin everything --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
nintendogirl1 | Posted 12/18/2010 1:53:01 AM | message detail |
We'll be ruining Birmingham today! --- Om nom nom. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:53:01 AM | message detail |
yesss SotC cut! --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:53:25 AM | message detail |
From: nintendogirl1 | #214 hopefully we do the same to stoke! --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
voltch | Posted 12/18/2010 1:57:16 AM | message detail |
PFFF, Ben foster is a BEEEAST, BEAAAAST( my housemate actually lives just down the road from his place). Ben gonna shut you all up, meanwhile back at the ranch, the unholy trinity of Fat Frank, Diving Drogba and ESSIEEEEN, will combine to whup all your asses. --- *Shakes Fist* |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:57:19 AM | message detail |
okay I'm leaving after the next update coz I really need to sleep. PLEEEEASSSSE keep it close, SoTC! --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:57:44 AM | message detail |
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SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 1:58:19 AM | message detail |
voltch, chelsea are gonna get thumped out of the title race this weekend by man utd. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/18/2010 1:58:51 AM | message detail |
2 is way, way, WAY better than 4. havent played 3 to judge --- My God, did that predict good! Dr_Football-l-l it no goin' and you tell me do things, I done runnin'... |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/18/2010 1:59:09 AM | message detail |
I
don't think Europe has anything to do with the vote increases on MGS3,
since SotC's lead in Europe has been staying steadily over 51%. NA, on
the other hand, has been slowly bleeding percentage in favor of MGS2. |
voltch | Posted 12/18/2010 1:59:13 AM | message detail |
no way, the unholy trinity will wipe em out. Also lol at Arsenal's champions league hopes. --- Hau hauu, omochi kaeri! |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 2:01:12 AM | message detail |
it's not our fault they rigged us to get eaten by barca twice in a row. however you saw what happened last year when chelsea got KO'd from the CL first. Let us rest and focus on the league! --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/18/2010 2:01:48 AM | message detail |
I
don't think Europe has anything to do with the vote increases on MGS3,
since SotC's lead in Europe has been staying steadily over 51%. NA, on
the other hand, has been slowly bleeding percentage in favor of MGS2. There is Asia and Oceania that are both contributing to MGS3's lead increases, but it's not a whole lot because North America and Europe are limiting the damage that Asia and Oceania are doing. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/18/2010 2:02:54 AM | message detail |
fair
enough... i haven't really been paying much attention to the other
regions, since they usually put up a minuscule percentage of the votals. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 2:04:35 AM | message detail |
Man! SoTC is going up in Europe. I think Asia might be what's holding it off. SoTC has a chance YESSSS. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/18/2010 2:06:02 AM | message detail |
This
is about the only match I can remember where South America/Asia/Oceania
can claim sole responsibility for the leader for any length of time:
SotC has held NA and Europe for hours but trailed. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
transience | Posted 12/18/2010 2:06:13 AM | message detail |
good
match so far. go SOTC! it might be the only thing interesting left in
this contest besides FFX's path (RE4, the Zelda winner, and even then
it's just another Square game). SOTC probably takes the morning and
would take any rally, so this is anyone's match. I think it's fair to say that there's some bandwagoning here. this entire division is done for stat-wise. SOTC owning the early vote at the expense of brackets is something that has not happened at all this contest. --- xyzzy |
voltch | Posted 12/18/2010 2:06:55 AM | message detail |
Europe no sells your bandwagon. --- Hau hauu, omochi kaeri! |
creativename | Posted 12/18/2010 2:07:29 AM | message detail |
I
think people are overconfident in Majora's Mask. Pre-contest I figured
WW would be stronger. Right now I give MM a slight edge, but that's
really only because I think N64 game>Gamecube game. I see people
favoring MM very heavily here though, I'm not sure where this MM faith
comes from. I wouldn't be surprised at all if WW won. This match is black sheep vs. black sheep - with WW being the black sheep due to early backlash, and MM being the black sheep simply due to being overlooked and largely ignored at the time. But both games have aged well and feelings are much more positive towards them now. Also how are people seriously considering MM as a finalist? Are people completely overlooking the fact that Ocarina of Time would almost certainly get 70+% on GSC before SFF? 55% on GSC is not something I consider finalist caliber. From: UltimaterializerX | #1005 There is not one thing though that indicates MGS2 is weaker than these other games. MGS3 will overperform a bit relative to them because this is a night match. The other two had day matches which is normally bad news for MGS games. When you take that into account - and the fact that this mach isn't over, SOTC can still win - the three games are *startlingly* equal in strength. So yeah, MGS2~=MGS4~=MGS3. Pretty clear cut really. I don't really see where a debate could come in. Unless you bring in 4-ways, which for one thing are old and not accurate to this year (MGS4 has dropped), and of course there's 4-ways so not very valid anyway. The current picture is the relevant one. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/18/2010 2:10:00 AM | message detail |
since they usually put up a minuscule percentage of the votals. You are right about that. For the last continent poll, Asia and Oceania both combined for 15.03% of the total votes during the 5:00-6:00 AM hour of that poll. So while Asia and Oceania don't contribute much overall, they could be more of a threat during the hours that they perform best in. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/18/2010 2:14:51 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #231 To be fair, OoT would probably 65/35 SSB and FFX in a 1v1 match. It and FF7 are pretty much in a tier of their own, and not really something that should be compared against in this contest. I'm not going to comment on the rest of your post, because you're blatantly ignoring the bandwagon theory in an attempt to prove your theory, then dismissing 4way polls altogether to cement your opinion. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 2:16:57 AM | message detail |
oh god crushing blow. what the hell was that. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/18/2010 2:18:30 AM | message detail |
I'm not too worried with only 1 update like that. Will have to see how the next couple updates look first. |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/18/2010 2:22:23 AM | message detail |
See?
Only a 1-update spike in votes. Alrighty, I should have been in bed a
while ago. Here's to hoping SotC pulls it out when I check the match
tomorrow. |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 2:24:35 AM | message detail |
I think I'm just going to stay up. You know what sucks a lot? I've got to be in to work at 11:30 tomorrow. I'm gonna miss the last half hour. Might have to take my cellphone and have one of you text me what happens. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
Intanos VI | Posted 12/18/2010 2:26:15 AM | message detail |
Is this match over? I haven't followed the trends of either game but it looks like MGS3 will win. --- Ameobi has been 3 times as effective as Bale at directly laying on goals this season. That is fact. No trolling, just pure fact. - number10 |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 2:28:20 AM | message detail |
This is really strange. Like, all of the late night North American votes have been going for MGS3. I'm kind of baffled by this. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/18/2010 2:29:18 AM | message detail |
From: SecksThaNemesis | #237 Sure, I'll text you. --- "I would be ashamed if I wasn't being addressed by the one and only UltimaterializerX." -SuperAngelo128 |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/18/2010 2:29:45 AM | message detail |
SotC
has been losing ground in North America, but hasn't really had much
effect on the overall result because North America is contributing less
than 40% of the votes at this time of the day (based on the continent
poll trend chart). --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
creativename | Posted 12/18/2010 2:34:50 AM | message detail |
Yes
OoT and FF7 are in a tier of their own, but I don't really see how
people are so wowed by 55% on GSC. MM is plenty strong but I don't see
it beating RE4 in a 24 hour match, let alone FFX in a 24 hour match.
And both those potential matches would be 24 hours. And it's no lock to
even get there. Who here really thinks GSC would beat Portal (full match)? It would probably be close but I'd be surprised if Portal dropped that. From: Greyfeld | #1153 Heh, really now, what is this attitude here. The "bandwagon theory" has El Zilcho evidence for it. I have no "point", I don't care how the MGS games stack up, I've never even played them. I'm going purely by what we can see with our eyes. The only bandwagon SOTC got was in the first 5 minutes. It's a board-only bandwagon. It's pretty self-evident honestly. You are *really* stretching majorly hardcore to argue otherwise. The main difference between this and the other MGS matches is day/night, and that's a pretty small difference that's only meaningful because the matches are so damn close. A theory like that requires evidence to prove it, not disprove it. The Null hypothesis does not add complexity. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 2:36:39 AM | message detail |
dat was some sweet update right der --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
paerarru | Posted 12/18/2010 2:40:33 AM | message detail |
Metal
Gear fans are the ultimate drones, HM already established this! They
apparently have no ability to discern between the games. If that was true then MGS3 would be losing. |
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/18/2010 2:42:59 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #242 I think GSC would win. --- 07/28/02-12/13/09 R.I.P CATS we miss ya ;_; 2002-2010 R.I.P Noble Nine we miss ya ;_; |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 3:00:56 AM | message detail |
can't believe I've stayed up to basically watch a stall-fest --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 3:03:05 AM | message detail |
hell yeahhhh two SoTC cuts, one more and WE GOT A TREND --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/18/2010 3:04:06 AM | message detail |
SotC is slowly cathing up now. --- 07/28/02-12/13/09 R.I.P CATS we miss ya ;_; 2002-2010 R.I.P Noble Nine we miss ya ;_; |
Zylo the wolf | Posted 12/18/2010 3:04:19 AM | message detail |
Three cuts in a row. 200 barrier broken. Come back trend? --- Ngamer64: Zylo, you're making less sense every day. Dr_Football > Me |
SecksThaNemesis | Posted 12/18/2010 3:05:24 AM | message detail |
oh crap it was three cuts in a row TREND ACTIVATE. Okay, one more SoTC cut and I'll go to bed. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer ~*~TEAM RK-VOLTCH'D~*~ |
