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WhiteLens | Posted 12/14/2010 6:59:38 AM | message detail
Man, I have nothing going in for the bottom quarter-final that'll actually be there.

Now this is when my bracket will start to fall apart.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/14/2010 7:03:10 AM | message detail
Man, the casuals are going to murder Board 8 on this match.
I expect even more than the 15% they had on us in yesterday's match. Predicition will probably be around 50%.
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/14/2010 7:04:01 AM | message detail
I have MM going to quarterfinals but it could actually reach semifinals if it manages to beats WW and MGS3/SotC. That would make me happy.

Can't wait for Round 4!!!

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KingVDV | Posted 12/14/2010 7:06:46 AM | message detail
Suck it up. Majora's Mask is CLEARLY better than G/S/C. Just because it plays second banana to Ocarina of Time doesn't make it any less of a sensational game. G/S/C would have to be the most overrated pokemon game as well, do people really get this excited over 16 badges? Or is it the fact that it improved on the rubbish that was R/B/Y significantly? The game still lacked a detailed plot Majora's Mask had and overall, it was just another pokemon game, whereas Majora's Mask in typical Zelda fashion, became innovative in it's own way.

I'm glad Majora's Mask is now the favorite to win the whole thing. I can't see anything whatsoever beat it aside from maybe another Zelda game or maybe Smash Bros.
Advokaiser | Posted 12/14/2010 7:07:23 AM | message detail
Oh, I almost forgot. Could anyone show me TRE's post of last match? I want to see how many people were murdered with SotC.

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/14/2010 7:09:06 AM | message detail
Prediction percentage was 15.11% IIRC. Top tiers didn't even hit 10%.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/14/2010 7:09:46 AM | message detail
A Zelda game with aliens is just priceless. Sorry that WAS a Majora's Mask spoiler.

Yes, that's part of my point. Why are people talking about all this drone voting and all? This is Majora's Mask, not Wind Waker or Twilight Princess. Majora's Mask does not deserve to lose this match at all, whereas I'd probably vote for GSC over at least Twilight Princess and maybe Wind Waker as well. Man this feels like when I was trying to argue that SotC wouldn't benefit from SmartVoterFAQs because of MGS2 being the older, more important/influential game...

I'm more inclined to think this is Majora's Mask beasting than anything else. Mario Galaxy otherwise looks to be a notch below Majora's Mask, in which case you get GSC with only 57% on RSE (or god forbid, 57% on the weakest GTA).
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/14/2010 7:10:21 AM | message detail
The thing we need to understand is that R/B/Y was SFFing both G/S/C and MM. People were looking at that match as two Pokémon games and a Zelda game, when in reality it was three Nintendo games. There's a SFF heirarchy, and obviously it goes R/B/Y>MM>G/S/C.

Exactly. That MM/RBY/GSC match should have been thrown out the window after Mario 1/3/World and LoZ
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KingVDV | Posted 12/14/2010 7:10:56 AM | message detail
and haha, just having checked the polls, bravo to Shadow of the Colossus, the Metal Gear slayer. Fantastic to see that happen, I didn't think it'd get that much love.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/14/2010 7:19:58 AM | message detail
What's the consensus on MGS3/SotC next round? I've got MGS3 > MGS4 in my bracket, so it makes sense to me that MGS3 comes out of that match. I don't buy in to any of the bandwagon crap, SotC is a great game and the 2-seed (and casual bracket favourite to boot). I think MGS3 is probably the strongest entrant in this bracket.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/14/2010 7:21:49 AM | message detail
Off Topic: There's still hope for RE4 > FFX. If you set San Andreas equal to Golden Sun (which is assuming GS overperformed because of DD's release and the daytime), and assume Vice City > San Andreas, well...that's what you get!
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 12/14/2010 7:22:30 AM | message detail
hey LinkMarioSamus what's up dude
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 7:26:15 AM | message detail
If you don't buy the bandwagon MGS3 shouldn't have much problem. It won't win easily and the night vote does help.
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/14/2010 7:47:55 AM | message detail
By the way, here's a rough estimate of Zelda games' contest strength based off of what I know about the fanbase on this site and the games' relative scores on MyGames and playrates and other stuff.

OoT
ALttP
*gap*
TP
MM
TWW
LoZ
LA
*gap*
ST
OoS/OoA
TMC
*gap*
PH
FSA
AoL

The top two are super-elite games that are both top 5, with OoT easily the site's favourite game. The next batch are all pretty up there themselves, there's little that can beat them but they aren't invincible. The batch after than are probably upper-midcarders that can do something, but not as much as the others. Beyond that the remainder of the series isn't weak but wouldn't be more than middle of the pack at best.

The series itself has a wide range of strength, it's just that we only see the truly powerful ones in contests. And of course Link's Crossbow Training would be fodder unless it go the joke vote.

You know, I really wish Spirit Tracks is in here. It'd be nice to see a Zelda that's strong but doesn't massacre everything, and handheld games have been doing pretty well(look at Metroid Fusion). Plus it's a kickass game in general and even if you hated PH you should give it a shot.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 7:57:12 AM | message detail
Match CXII: (3) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker vs. (2) The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Last Round

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker – 60.85%
Assassin’s Creed II – 39.15%

Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door – 44.83%
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion – 55.17%

Analysis

I can see why some people thought that Oblivion had a chance, it did pretty well last contest and didn’t exactly finish that far away from Wind Waker. However even ignoring any SFF by Melee if you really took a step back away from any stats and ask yourself whether Oblivion can defeat Wind Waker on GameFAQs you’ll know the answer. While Wind Waker hasn’t exactly impressed the board it has done a lot better on stronger opponents compare to Oblivion. With that said I don’t expect Wind Waker to blow out Oblivion either.

For the first time this contest Wind Waker gets to have a match in the sun, though Oblivion is no slouch in the sun either. Some people have been arguing that Oblivion was overrated last contest though with the performance of some of the opponents it defeated such as God of War I beg to differ. Even this year both Soul Calibur II and Paper Mario: TTYD are not weaklings.

I feel that Oblivion is strong enough to crack 40% on Wind Waker though at the same time Wind Waker needs to look as impressive as possible if it wants to have a chance at reaching the division finals and if not further. Also the whining in this match is going to be crazy you should build your shelters now or use the same one that you used for the last two matches.

charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: Wind Waker > TESIV: Oblivion

charmander6000’s Prediction: LoZ: Wind Waker wins, 57.36% - 42.64%

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Advokaiser | Posted 12/14/2010 8:10:09 AM | message detail
Charmander, with your analysis I thought you were going to predict a 52-48% match. Anyway, for me anything more than 55% in this match would surprise me. Upset chances are low at this point, but I expect a kind of close match.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 8:57:32 AM | message detail
But what about droneFAQs?

>_>
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2010 8:58:45 AM | message detail
Here we go. A non-TP Zelda is getting its first crack at the day vote. Run it up, Link!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 8:59:14 AM | message detail
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2010 9:00:20 AM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 83.33%

5
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 16.67%

1
TOTAL VOTES 6

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:00:22 AM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 87.5% 7
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 12.5% 1
TOTAL VOTES 8

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Advokaiser | Posted 12/14/2010 9:00:27 AM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker 70% 21
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion 30% 9
TOTAL VOTES 30

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/14/2010 9:00:36 AM | message detail
uuh
WW is doing pretty bad
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2010 9:00:55 AM | message detail
OH DEE-AH
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GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/14/2010 9:01:10 AM | message detail
oh nevermind, it somehow went from 54 to 59 while I was posting
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:01:12 AM | message detail
XD WW above 60%
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/14/2010 9:01:22 AM | message detail
uuh
WW is doing pretty bad


lol

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2010 9:01:30 AM | message detail
Guess it was just Pokemon fans letting off a little steam!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:01:57 AM | message detail
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 54.57%

Pretty impressive, I thought Pokemon would bring it below 50%
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/14/2010 9:02:53 AM | message detail
Pretty good start for WW here. Maybe there's hope for my bracket yet, need it to take down MM.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2010 9:03:34 AM | message detail
You know what this makes look worse?

Oblivion doing badly->TTYD doing badly->Paper Mario doing badly->MGS3 doing badly

SotC comin' for ya.

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tgs2 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:03:35 AM | message detail
Maybe the WW/MM winner can threaten FFX given 60% on Oblivion. Probably going to drop off though.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2010 9:03:45 AM | message detail
Great recovery after a bad opening 30 seconds. I think this Zelda duo may easily rival KH/KHII in strength.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:03:53 AM | message detail
Guess it was just Pokemon fans letting off a little steam!

Pfft it was total drone voting, how dare someone like something that I don't like.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2010 9:05:20 AM | message detail
Also, guess what this makes look a lot better?

Wind Waker doing well->AC2 doing well->AC1 doing well->MGS4 doing well->SotC doing well

MGS3 is so screwed.

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WhiteLens | Posted 12/14/2010 9:05:34 AM | message detail
Hah, still barely in the Top 10 in the contest leaderboard despite picking G/S/C.
Now I just gotta wait for tomorrow to see if I still stand.
C'mon Half-Life 2 and Melee!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:05:44 AM | message detail
Pretty impressive stuff, I guess MM isn't completely safe.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2010 9:06:58 AM | message detail
That, or RBY is just a hell of a lot stronger than any other Pokemon game. I'm not sure I buy that.

Where were you in the late 90s? RBY is on a whole other playing field. It's like comparing OoT to the Oracle games. It's so far ahead of the other games in the series that it's idiotic to compare the two. RBY was a cultural phenomenon. GSC was just a game. You need to understand that.
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WhiteLens | Posted 12/14/2010 9:07:38 AM | message detail
Oh man, SotC beating MGS3 followed by WW beating MM would just make this contest!
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:07:49 AM | message detail
Zelda impressing again, reminding us which series is #1. I'm looking forward to FFX (just maybe RE4) vs. the winner of MM/WW.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/14/2010 9:09:52 AM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #338
Where were you in the late 90s? RBY is on a whole other playing field. It's like comparing OoT to the Oracle games. It's so far ahead of the other games in the series that it's idiotic to compare the two. RBY was a cultural phenomenon. GSC was just a game. You need to understand that.


Even still, there's no it even approaches 60% on Majora in a 1v1, let alone the 63% that it got in 2009. RBY is obviously the strongest, but the Pokemon games have looked poor this contest, and that will really affect people's confidence in RBY by the time another big games contest rolls around. It was a big favorite in that "third strongest game" argument. I don't think it is anymore. If Majora can dispatch GSC so easily, would anyone take RBY over LttP?
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:10:25 AM | message detail
dat board vote.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2010 9:11:10 AM | message detail
but the Pokemon games have looked poor this contest,

No, they haven't. RSE did what it was supposed to. DPP did what it was supposed to. GSC crushed two opponents and then ran into ZELDA. They've got one bad result and a bunch of expected results. What exactly were they supposed to do?

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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/14/2010 9:12:06 AM | message detail
but the Pokemon games have looked poor this contest, and that will really affect people's confidence in RBY by the time another big games contest rolls around

I know, and I love it! RBY is not attached to the other Pokemon games and yet people still believe that to be true. They're going to get screwed over by RBY again and it's going to end up being an awesome result!
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:14:02 AM | message detail
No, they haven't. RSE did what it was supposed to. DPP did what it was supposed to. GSC crushed two opponents and then ran into ZELDA. They've got one bad result and a bunch of expected results. What exactly were they supposed to do?

RBY's got to beat a stronger Zelda in LTTP to win that coveted #3 spot.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/14/2010 9:15:52 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #340
dat board vote.


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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2010 9:16:14 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #341
No, they haven't. RSE did what it was supposed to. DPP did what it was supposed to. GSC crushed two opponents and then ran into ZELDA. They've got one bad result and a bunch of expected results. What exactly were they supposed to do?

RBY's got to beat a stronger Zelda in LTTP to win that coveted #3 spot.


And that's still very possible. I don't think LTTP is that far above MM< and RBY still beat down MM in a very fair match that was close to a 1 v 1 setting.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/14/2010 9:16:40 AM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #338
dat board vote.




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voltch | Posted 12/14/2010 9:16:58 AM | message detail
Zelda always wins baby.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/14/2010 9:18:00 AM | message detail
Yeah those two updates almost killed any chance WW had against MM.
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