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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:54 PM | message detail
Zelda winning does not make its fans drones any more GSC winning makes its fans drones.

You know, this might be true if this were an isolated example. But it's not, is it?
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 10:00:08 PM | message detail

From: transients | #146
so.. when Majora's Mask loses to FF10 or RE4, are you going to relent on the drone thing? or is this just a convenient excuse for Pokemon losing?


Okay, if Majora's Mask actually loses to one of those games, I'll relent on it.

But let's face it.

It's not going to lose to anything but Melee, and even then I have my doubts.

*this message was typed with no fingernails*
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TF2beatsBatman | Posted 12/13/2010 10:00:26 PM | message detail
Hey guys you know how that new Nintendo console is called the Wii?

LOL, am I right?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:00:33 PM | message detail

From: transients | #142
so.. when Majora's Mask loses to FF10 or RE4, are you going to relent on the drone thing? or is this just a convenient excuse for Pokemon losing?


*looks at today's poll*

MM is losing the contest?

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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 10:00:36 PM | message detail
alright, we'll be back to do this again in a week!
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 10:01:08 PM | message detail
Actually, the best evidence of that was LA beating MMX, because in that case, the better game actually lost.

The best evidence is that we've got ABOUT FIVE OR SIX DIFFERENT EXAMPLES OF THIS CRAP.

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 10:01:40 PM | message detail

From: transients | #146
so.. when Majora's Mask loses to FF10 or RE4, are you going to relent on the drone thing? or is this just a convenient excuse for Pokemon losing?


Hell, TP might even lose to KH2 for all we know, that's not set in stone.

So MM is whooping G/S/C. Why? Because G/S/C(and Pokemon as a whole) just isn't as strong as we thought it was. That's it.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 10:01:40 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #152
Okay, if Majora's Mask actually loses to one of those games, I'll relent on it.

But let's face it.

It's not going to lose to anything but Melee, and even then I have my doubts.

*this message was typed with no fingernails*


Just how strong do you think a game that lost to Xenogears is? I'm one of the biggest MM supporters on the board, and even I admit FFX is pushing it. MM will be lucky to break 45% in that match, and that's considering how (deservedly) crappy FFX has looked.
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ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 10:01:57 PM | message detail
so which is it is shadow of the colossus winning the contest or majora's mask

better yet do i see JOKE VOTES

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 10:02:09 PM | message detail
If I promise to relent on the drone thing in the event of that result, if MM makes the final and beats/competes with Melee will you say

"I'm sorry KP and ExTha, you were right."?

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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 10:02:25 PM | message detail
sure. hell, we can make it an account bet. :)
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:02:37 PM | message detail
Whine, a game I like better is losing.

How is this any different than what casuals do or even what some people did about San Andreas losing?
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:02 PM | message detail
actually, you've wussed out on those. I take that back.

might do it with KP though
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:05 PM | message detail
And this match ****ing confirms TP > KH2.

It's a wonderful thing that Wind Waker is in the same division as Majora's Mask, otherwise we'd have three Zelda division winners.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:06 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #142
You guys let RBY completely **** over your minds when it comes to these contests. What Pokemon game was really strong last games contest? RBY. Which Pokemon are really strong in character contests? The two biggest stars of RBY/the show/the card game, Pikachu and Charizard. When has GSC ever looked like it was a contest elite? NEVER! The only reason it would beat MM is if the remake boosted it big time, and this match proves that the remakes didn't do anything for it.

Why is this site full of drones because of this match?


Oh RBY is special, no doubt, but we had two direct matches last year. This wasn't some crazy x-stat voodoo people were jumping on.

But let's not pretend Zelda fans aren't drones.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:09 PM | message detail
I just realized, if Brawl wins, I'm looking good for a potential prize.

I'm stoked now!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:25 PM | message detail
The Zelda Legion who have caused Link to win multiple character battles and have caused all Zelda games to be forces in these contests are, without doubt, drones - drone strength boosts a game that should hover at a certain level to another level entirely. If MM loses to FFX or RE4 it only proves that MM couldn't beat them even with drones, a damning indictment of the game's quality if they can be converted.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:27 PM | message detail
Man, it doesn't have to beat FFX or RE4 or win the contest or whatever. The fact that it gets there and probably gets at least 48% already confirms the drone theory.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:43 PM | message detail
If MM beats Melee.......I could probably surrender on the drone topic. But that won't happen.

(Note: If MM beats Brawl in the final, I will celebrate and congratulate Zelda fans for being truly discerning heroes who saved us from the awful game known as Brawl).
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:45 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #159
so which is it is shadow of the colossus winning the contest or majora's mask

better yet do i see JOKE VOTES


Halo 1 somehow wins contest, you heard it here first guys.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:46 PM | message detail
I think MGS and especially MGS4 is pretty much locked into the Top Turkey spot. That result is just embarrassing. GSC/MM was at least considered almost a toss-up by most of us. ZeldaFAQs striking again was always a possibility. Nobody saw MGS4 flopping that hard.

You have a good point, but did anyone predict that GSC would lose this badly? This was supposed to be a close match, and pre-contest, GSC had good reason to at least be a slight favorite... right now, though, it's letting Majora's Mask curb-stomp it in bombastic fashion. As bad as MGS4 looked earlier today, this is one of the most embarrassing performances in a long time - it's the kind of showing that makes Magus's performance against Sandbag look completely respectable in comparison.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 10:03:50 PM | message detail

From: transients | #161
sure. hell, we can make it an account bet. :)


Man if you hadn't already caught yourself I was going to say YOU'RE ON with ">.>" after it.

Would've been amusing.

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #166
I just realized, if Brawl wins, I'm looking good for a potential prize.

I'm stoked now!


FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, GO MELEE
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:06 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #167
The Zelda Legion who have caused Link to win multiple character battles and have caused all Zelda games to be forces in these contests are, without doubt, drones - drone strength boosts a game that should hover at a certain level to another level entirely. If MM loses to FFX or RE4 it only proves that MM couldn't beat them even with drones, a damning indictment of the game's quality if they can be converted.


Man, he's so butthurt he isn't even making sense anymore.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:11 PM | message detail
Because G/S/C(and Pokemon as a whole) just isn't as strong as we thought it was. That's it.

RBY is definitely in the running as the number 3 game on this site. Every other Pokemon game is much further down the line. That's the part that a lot of people didn't get.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:11 PM | message detail
My Moneys on Collosus calling in The X-men

No go and save The City!
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:14 PM | message detail
I don't get it though. if FFX wins, isn't it because Final Fantasy fans are drones?
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ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:20 PM | message detail
The Zelda Legion

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:25 PM | message detail

From: transients | #162
actually, you've wussed out on those. I take that back.

might do it with KP though


No thanks. People who do account bets aren't smart people, no matter how 'obvious' the result seems!

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:42 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #168
Man, it doesn't have to beat FFX or RE4 or win the contest or whatever. The fact that it gets there and probably gets at least 48% already confirms the drone theory.


this makes less than zero sense. Like BT-level sense.

WTF KP
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 10:04:51 PM | message detail
actually, you've wussed out on those. I take that back.

Tell me about it, though I was always going to renege on my end of the bargain anyway.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/13/2010 10:05:10 PM | message detail
The Zelda Legion

more like Zelda Zealots
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 10:05:54 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #179
this makes less than zero sense. Like BT-level sense.

WTF KP


If he had BT-level sense, he would have gotten this match and would appreciate how amazing a game Majora's Mask is.
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/13/2010 10:06:02 PM | message detail
I just realized, if Brawl wins, I'm looking good for a potential prize.

"If"? I thought you were pretty confident in SSBB winning? What changed your mind?
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ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 10:06:08 PM | message detail
I also like how only a certain segment of the Nintendo fans are drones. Everyone who rides that boat is the same tbqh

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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 10:06:14 PM | message detail

From: ZFS | #177
The Zelda Legion


Indeed. I felt they needed a title, like that special bunch of Orcs from Lord of the Rings.
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 10:06:33 PM | message detail
Melee wins = good taste faqs
Brawl wins = NINTENDRONESSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:10 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #183
I just realized, if Brawl wins, I'm looking good for a potential prize.

"If"? I thought you were pretty confident in SSBB winning? What changed your mind?


It being the sole dependency on my bracket doing good. I was confident until I realized I have a winning shot if it wins. Now, I have a sinking feeling that it's going to burn me somehow because I can never seem to catch a break in these things
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:17 PM | message detail
alright I'm done being an ass for the night - can't wait for round 4. should be a great last week, shame it's only 12 hour matches.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:25 PM | message detail

From: transients | #186
Melee wins = good taste faqs
Brawl wins = NINTENDRONESSSSSSSSSSSSSS


If either of them wins, that proves this site is filled with Smash drones.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:29 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #169
If MM beats Melee.......I could probably surrender on the drone topic. But that won't happen.

(Note: If MM beats Brawl in the final, I will celebrate and congratulate Zelda fans for being truly discerning heroes who saved us from the awful game known as Brawl).


If Brawl beats Melee only to lose to the N64 Zelda in the finals... I honestly would consider it one of the funniest things I've ever had the pleasure of witnessing in my entire life.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:36 PM | message detail
Oh RBY is special, no doubt, but we had two direct matches last year. This wasn't some crazy x-stat voodoo people were jumping on.

But let's not pretend Zelda fans aren't drones.


Zelda fans are drones the exact same way MGS fans are drones and FF fans are drones and just about every popular franchise's fans are drones. Just because everything else isn't as popular as Zelda does not excuse their fanbases of not being full of drones, if you want to go down that route.

Or you can just think more logically and say these games are strong because they are popular, and leave it at that.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:45 PM | message detail
Man, it doesn't have to beat FFX or RE4 or win the contest or whatever. The fact that it gets there and probably gets at least 48% already confirms the drone theory.

So if it wins drones and if it doesn't drones?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:07:48 PM | message detail

From: transients | #173
I don't get it though. if FFX wins, isn't it because Final Fantasy fans are drones?


There is such a thing as relative expectations. A Zelda game doesn't have to win everything for its fanbase to be drones. It performing way, way, way better than it had any right to is good enough.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3486

I dare you to try and make sense of this result that doesn't result in ZELDA

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creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 10:08:07 PM | message detail
Extha
The only thing you'd be hoping is for ZeldaFAQs to come through and prove their robotic tendencies, and if you banked on that, then kudos to you.

But there was no other logical route you could draw to a MM victory here. To pretend that you did is just dumb and you should stop.


Except "ZeldaFAQs!!" was very legit reasoning from the start. There is nothing lucky about arguing ZeldaFAQs.


Ulti
Is that the Oracle? Who cares about the Oracle? I pick the results I want to see instead of what I think will happen. Or did you miss my picking Melee with 60% in a couple days?

And even then I'm still beating you, so... nice job bringing that up?


This is a strange line of logic since the Oracle is by far the best reflection of actual skill. So it's the #1 thing to care about except for the prize money aspect, but we all know brackets/battle are vastly more lucky oriented. If it wasn't for prize money there's not much reason to think the brackets mean much. And you're not really beating him, like he said he's almost tied with you despite predicting less matches.

That said EvilNcr has little reason to gloat, I don't see him having a track record, and his guru bracket does appear flawed to say the least. And even though he got MM>GSC right his logic yesterday was still pretty bad.

The obvious silver lining, of course, is LOL 4-WAYS. I've been preaching for years about that format being illegitimate. I can get a match completely wrong and still come out a winner :D

Oh come on Ulti :) Stop trying to always "come out a winner". If you were incorrect just accept it, you're trying to make yourself look better, and you just end up looking...strange? I don't really understand this? You're also hardly alone in saying 4-ways were an untrustworthy format, most of us thought the same.


BT
See my post earlier. GSC is definitely a more hardcore Pokemon game, RBY and Majora split the casual Nintendo vote.

Saying RBY split more with MM than GSC is insane. More sensible to say that Pokemon doesn't really suffer from LFF, whereas MM did.
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Greyfeld | Posted 12/13/2010 10:08:20 PM | message detail
It makes me feel better to consider the idea that MM is riding on OoT's coattails, the same way FF8 rides on FF7's.
red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:08:36 PM | message detail
Let's look at characters. We have Link.....and then we have a huge huge gulf down to Ganondorf and Zelda. With FF, Cloud is below Link, but in addition to him we have Sephiroth, Vincent, Squall, Tifa, Auron, and maybe Zack all wedged in between Link and Ganondorf. Even with Mario, where Mario is way below Link, there are 3 characters: Bowser, Yoshi, and Luigi, who are on the same level as Ganondorf and Zelda.

After Ganondorf and Zelda, we have another huge gulf down to......Epona? Saria? Malon? It's telling that the next strongest Zelda characters haven't even made a contest.

Zelda fans are the very opposite of drones. They just love Link and Zelda games very much, and there's a lot of them.
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/13/2010 10:09:41 PM | message detail
Dont forget Charizard <_<
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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 10:09:56 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 12/14/2010 1:07:48 AM | #193
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3486

I dare you to try and make sense of this result that doesn't result in ZELDA


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=1618

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 10:10:04 PM | message detail

BT
See my post earlier. GSC is definitely a more hardcore Pokemon game, RBY and Majora split the casual Nintendo vote.

Saying RBY split more with MM than GSC is insane. More sensible to say that Pokemon doesn't really suffer from LFF, whereas MM did.


You're saying the exact same thing I did, except I offered up an explanation for it that makes sense. Think about it carefully: RBY is one of the most popular, casual games of the 90's. Every other Pokemon game has a fanbase of cheetos-caked neckbeards that play for hundreds of hours to get "shiny" Pokemon or whatever. Not hard to see the disconnect there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:10:10 PM | message detail
The difference is that the FF series has character you should be able to give a crap about. There is not a single Zelda character that isn't Link/Zelda series proxy votes, and it shows whenever they meet up. Compare Link vs. Ganondorf to Cloud vs. Sephiroth.

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