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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:48:56 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #086
Leave.

Seriously, I'm sick of this. Every Pokemon game is good, repetitive or not. It has no bearing on the (absolute) fact that Zelda fans are drones.


I never understood this argument. If Zelda fans were "drones", it wouldn't have lost to 3 Mario games in one match last year. The Zelda franchise just happens to be one of the best overall gaming franchises. How many other long-lasting series can say a game like Zelda 2 (which wasn't bad compared to other non-Zelda games) is the worst entrant?
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:00 PM | message detail
So, can we seriously try to get Dark Link into the next Character Battle now? >_>

How would that be a good thing for the contest? Seriously. It's not funny at all (Like Missingno). you're going to have Dark Link beating legitimate characters like Auron and Dante because the voters on this site are absolute morons
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:03 PM | message detail
I'm not a Zelda fan, but now I can't wait until the next character battle so Link can win it.

The tears they are tasty.
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:07 PM | message detail
oh it's a fact that it's a repetitive game that follows the same formula every time. I don't think you would argue that... right?

I'm just saying not to call voters drones because they don't vote for Pokemon, the ultimate in repetition.
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Mr3790 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:09 PM | message detail
Meh, GSC wasn't winning the contest either way. Besides, MM is probably the second best game in the contest anyway IMO.
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Haguile | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:10 PM | message detail

From: Team Rocket Elite | #090
So, can we seriously try to get Dark Link into the next Character Battle now? >_>


Only if we get Link's Crossbow Training into the next games contest.

Do we have a deal?
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:19 PM | message detail
Which fanbases are closer, LTTP and TP or GSC and DPP? Almost certainly the latter.

LTTP gets 55% on TP, probably. GSC would double DPP at least. This isn't even close to true.

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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:22 PM | message detail
I'm kind of thankful for this result because it blows the bottom quarter open, and perhaps even gives Twilight Princess an outside shot at the final four. The third quarter is between FFX and RE4. The top quarter has three games interested. The first semi will be a dud, but the second probably won't. The final? Who knows. I just want a great run in to an enjoyable contest (and for FFX not to get humiliated >_>).

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Haguile | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:38 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #099
Epona vs. Vincent

Dark Link vs. Cloud

who ya got


Epona and Cloud.
XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 9:49:54 PM | message detail
I would say calling something stale is a criticism of its quality, but that's just me.

And Pokemon being "repetitive" has no bearing on Zelda fans being massive drones. You've already been responded to on that point:

From: KamikazePotato | #029

The gulf between RBY, GSC, and DPP/RSE are all huge.

The gulf between the Zelda mainline games is...not, once you take out OoT.


OoT


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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 9:50:17 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | Posted: 12/14/2010 12:49:19 AM | #107
LTTP gets 55% on TP, probably.


Now this is just silly.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:50:18 PM | message detail
I've never found myself agreeing harder with tranny than I am tonight.

Well met
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:50:22 PM | message detail
The only reason I even want another character battle at this point is for Sephiroth/Snake III.

Can we just have that match again and skip all the Link bull****?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:50:25 PM | message detail

From: transients | #103
oh it's a fact that it's a repetitive game that follows the same formula every time. I don't think you would argue that... right?

I'm just saying not to call voters drones because they don't vote for Pokemon, the ultimate in repetition.


Zelda fans being drones have nothing to do with the series being repetitive or not. That has no bearing on it. They're drones because
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4179

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:50:47 PM | message detail
I mean how much do the fanbases overlap, not how close the games are in strength.

You can tell both by SFF (LTTP probably won't be able to SFF TP much, while GSC will throttle DPP), and by trends (GSC and DPP will have very similar trends, TP will probably do a lot better with the day vote against LTTP).
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:50:54 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #112
I've never found myself agreeing harder with tranny than I am tonight.

Well met


tranny this should be setting off red flags for you right here man.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:51:08 PM | message detail
looks like fun!

(1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
(8) Zelda II: The Adventure of Link

(4) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess
(5) The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask

(3) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
(6) The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening

(7) The Legend of Zelda
(2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past



(1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
(4) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

(3) The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
(2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past



(1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
(2) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past



(1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

A little easy except for some of the round 1 ones.
transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:51:36 PM | message detail
alright, you guys are just insufferable at this point. I look forward to the next match when we can have a rational discussion again.

ps zelda sux
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2010 9:51:58 PM | message detail
GSC's percentage is still embarrassingly low, so it's safe to say that it's the turkey of the contest. You're off the hook, Metal Gear... unless SotC, like, 60-40s Snake Eater or something.

My bracket's dead, just about all of my favorite games are eliminated... all that's left for me is the RE4 hype train! And frankly, I'm okay with that. RE4 > OoT, BABY

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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 9:52:08 PM | message detail
http://www.creativeuncut.com/gallery-02/art/oot-link07.gif >>>>>>> your favorite character
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:52:08 PM | message detail
So next round, does MM break 60%? I think it can, with how crappy Wind Waker is.
Probably not quite, but it's not out of the question. I would certainly be shocked if Wind Waker won.

I'm curious to see if Majora's Mask can take out FFX... MM's amazing score on Chrono Cross last round turned out to be no fluke. I doubt it will happen, but if we throw 4-way stats out the window I suppose its chances are better, huh?

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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:52:17 PM | message detail
Oh man, I seriously can not wait until Wind Waker makes Majora's Mask it's b****. Just because this overrated game is beating another overrated game you all seem to think it can win the contest.
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creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 9:52:30 PM | message detail
KP
RBY got over 50% of the vote in its match against MM. 4-ways my ass.

What this match does do is that GSC's match against MGS into a whole new light that makes quite a bit of sense given recent results.


What light? I think I'm being dumb but I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Also the result of that RBY/MM/PD/BK match is clearly very suspect at this point. Remember that PD and BK were N64 games. In other words, LOL 4-ways.

The MGS/RBY/MM/GSC match probably shows more accurately where RBY is in relation to MM.


TheCodeisBosco
The top five biggest turkeys of the contest, in my opinion:

1) Metal Gear as a whole
2) Pokemon G/S/C
3) GTA: San Andreas
4) Final Fantasy XII
5) Rock Band 2

Though if Majora keeps going up, G/S/C will probably get the #1 spot. Just sayin'.


I think MGS and especially MGS4 is pretty much locked into the Top Turkey spot. That result is just embarrassing. GSC/MM was at least considered almost a toss-up by most of us. ZeldaFAQs striking again was always a possibility. Nobody saw MGS4 flopping that hard.

GTA has never gotten much respect so it failing didn't surprise anybody, can't really call it much of turkey, just typical GTA underperformance. FF12 was pretty laughable - but it never was considered strong. And RB2, nobody cared about. MGS4 is probably the biggest flop by a large margin. Then GSC maybe, but I would hesitate to call it a turkey, just an overhyped disappointment.


red sox
I think the clearest signal of Snake > Mario was that Snake got approximately the same percentage on Sephiroth that Mario got on Charizard. There were a number of other matches suggesting Snake at 53-55% too, but I don't remember too well.

Well I guess when you bring up the Charizard/Sephiroth comparison Snake does appear as the favorite. But setting Mario=Samus, which seems reasonable, gives Snake only 50.75% in the raw stats. Now Samus is overrated there since she got Cloud in a night match, but even in my adjusted stats Snake gets less than 52% on Samus. He wouldn't have broken 52% on Mario in a 24 hour match I'm pretty sure. Maybe in a night match he would've gotten higher than that.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:53:56 PM | message detail
What light? I think I'm being dumb but I'm not sure what you're getting at.

GSC almost beats MGS. MGS gets hidden behind a bunch of Nintendo LFF.

This contest, MGS series flops. GSC flops.

Also the result of that RBY/MM/PD/BK match is clearly very suspect at this point. Remember that PD and BK were N64 games. In other words, LOL 4-ways.

The MGS/RBY/MM/GSC match probably shows more accurately where RBY is in relation to MM.


I want you to read those two sentences again. Very carefully.

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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 9:54:05 PM | message detail
You might call Pokemon fans drones, the series might be repetitive, but there is quite clearly a massive gulf in how bad the drones are, and Zelda have proved time and again in these contests that they are the king of drones. You don't have an argument here - Pokemon doesn't even come close to Zelda in that area. For evidence, see http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4179
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:54:36 PM | message detail

From: transients | #118
alright, you guys are just insufferable at this point. I look forward to the next match when we can have a rational discussion again.

ps zelda sux


dude

what the hell is your problem.

"zelda fans aren't drones"

*the most obvious case of zelda fans being drones is happening RIGHT NOW*

everyone else: "uhhh yes they are, here's a perfectly legitimate reason why."

"no they aren't you guys are insufferable see you next match."

I mean what the HELL.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:55:09 PM | message detail
Guys there's a difference between drone and people liking a series.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 9:55:36 PM | message detail

From: XIII_rocks | #125
You might call Pokemon fans drones, the series might be repetitive, but there is quite clearly a massive gulf in how bad the drones are, and Zelda have proved time and again in these contests that they are the king of drones. You don't have an argument here - Pokemon doesn't even come close to Zelda in that area. For evidence, see http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4179


So more people like Majora's Mask then G/S/C. Whoop-de-damn-do!
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:55:52 PM | message detail
everyone else? it's you and KP, the kings in whining. everyone else is just like "uhhh... guys?"

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Kamekguy | Posted 12/13/2010 9:55:59 PM | message detail
I voted for Majora's Mask because I vote for anything with Skull Kid in it.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:56:35 PM | message detail
I've thought that Samus has been a little stronger than Mario indirectly since 2008. She was stronger before the Boost, and the Deboost put her back ahead of Mario indirectly.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 9:56:57 PM | message detail

From: transients | #118
alright, you guys are just insufferable at this point. I look forward to the next match when we can have a rational discussion again.

ps zelda sux


Make even the remotest of sense.

I'm not even pissed off at this result, but I find your posts about Pokemon itt to be awful. This isn't a great result, but it's no Golden Sun/GTA, I can live with it. To even imply that Pokemon's repetitiveness means that they are not only bad games, but that the drones who play them can compete with Zelda in number, is terrible.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:56:58 PM | message detail

From: transients | #129
everyone else? it's you and KP, the kings in whining. everyone else is just like "uhhh... guys?"


it's not just KP and I that think this.
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:05 PM | message detail
Also, Link's Crossbow Training would be a hilarious psuedo-joke entrant, and it has my full support.

Dark Link can piss off, though. Crazy Dave from Plants vs. Zombies is going to be the next Missingno. - book it!

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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:18 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | Posted: 12/14/2010 12:54:36 AM | #126
*the most obvious case of zelda fans being drones is happening RIGHT NOW*


I still have yet to here this rationale. Please yell in my direction some more so I can see your stance.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:26 PM | message detail

From: transients | #127
everyone else? it's you and KP, the kings in whining. everyone else is just like "uhhh... guys?"


It's more like

Biggest Zelda Fans In The Stats Topic: Dudes, we're not drones.
Everyone Else: Yeah, you kind of are.
Extha and KP Who Have Had Very Bad Days: Time to vent.
Tran: I am smarter than everyone else.

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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:30 PM | message detail
lol here
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Kamekguy | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:40 PM | message detail
Dark Samus Vs Dark Link

Who you got?
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:50 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #126
dude

what the hell is your problem.

"zelda fans aren't drones"

*the most obvious case of zelda fans being drones is happening RIGHT NOW*

everyone else: "uhhh yes they are, here's a perfectly legitimate reason why."

"no they aren't you guys are insufferable see you next match."

I mean what the HELL.


Actually, the best evidence of that was LA beating MMX, because in that case, the better game actually lost.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:57:51 PM | message detail

From: Kamekguy | #130
I voted for Majora's Mask because I vote for anything with Skull Kid in it.


No, tranny's right, they aren't Zelda drones. They're Skull Kid drones

SkullKidFAQs.

Okay I'm going to go do something more fun now like pull off my fingernails with a pair of pliers.
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ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 9:58:18 PM | message detail
Holy crap what is going on in here. I don't know that Pokemon fans come out winners when they act like this. Zelda winning does not make its fans drones any more GSC winning makes its fans drones.

Metal Gear fans ultimate drones

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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:58:35 PM | message detail
You might call Pokemon fans drones, the series might be repetitive, but there is quite clearly a massive gulf in how bad the drones are, and Zelda have proved time and again in these contests that they are the king of drones. You don't have an argument here - Pokemon doesn't even come close to Zelda in that area. For evidence, see http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4179

This is another argument I don't understand. Please tell me why Majora's Mask beating a weak Pokemon game proves that Zelda fans are drones?

You guys let RBY completely **** over your minds when it comes to these contests. What Pokemon game was really strong last games contest? RBY. Which Pokemon are really strong in character contests? The two biggest stars of RBY/the show/the card game, Pikachu and Charizard. When has GSC ever looked like it was a contest elite? NEVER! The only reason it would beat MM is if the remake boosted it big time, and this match proves that the remakes didn't do anything for it.

Why is this site full of drones because of this match?
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:58:44 PM | message detail
I agree that Pokemon should be on the list of flops, but Metal Gear Solid? I think that honor goes to MGS4, and no others. MGS3 got a solid victory over Paper Mario, and I think MGS2 did just fine once we found out that it was on par with MGS4. Perhaps if SotC beats MGS3 only to get destroyed be Majora's Mask should we call the whole series a flop.

That said, Majora's Mask SHOULD have the bottom quarter of the bracket locked up. Of course, I'm sure everyone here believe that now.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:58:51 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #136
It's more like

Biggest Zelda Fans In The Stats Topic: Dudes, we're not drones.
Everyone Else: Yeah, you kind of are.
Extha and KP Who Have Had Very Bad Days: Time to vent.
Tran: I am smarter than everyone else.


More like: KP and ExTha - HERP DERP DERP BAWWWW
Everyone else: lol pokemon
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Shoenin_Kakashi | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:03 PM | message detail
Man, y'all are sounding Next Gen in here.
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:08 PM | message detail
so.. when Majora's Mask loses to FF10 or RE4, are you going to relent on the drone thing? or is this just a convenient excuse for Pokemon losing?
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Big Bob | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:10 PM | message detail
1) Link
16) Error

8) Dark Link
9) Happy Mask Salesman

5) Midna
12) King of Red Lions

4) Epona
13) Vaati

3) Zelda
14) Navi

6) Tingle
11) Agahnim

7) Skull Kid
10) Zant

2) Ganondorf
15) Linebeck
Mr3790 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:22 PM | message detail
Thanks topic, you've convinced me that MM>GSC actually was a good result!
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:48 PM | message detail
The fact is that Zelda fans aren't drones, Zelda is just plain popular. More popular than any other series. That's why it wins. It was more popular last year, it is still more popular now, it was more popular in 2008, it was more popular in 2006 and 2005, and that's why Link always wins. Because he has more fans than others, not because his fans are drones.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:59:51 PM | message detail

From: XxSoulxX | #142
You might call Pokemon fans drones, the series might be repetitive, but there is quite clearly a massive gulf in how bad the drones are, and Zelda have proved time and again in these contests that they are the king of drones. You don't have an argument here - Pokemon doesn't even come close to Zelda in that area. For evidence, see http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4179

This is another argument I don't understand. Please tell me why Majora's Mask beating a weak Pokemon game proves that Zelda fans are drones?

You guys let RBY completely **** over your minds when it comes to these contests. What Pokemon game was really strong last games contest? RBY. Which Pokemon are really strong in character contests? The two biggest stars of RBY/the show/the card game, Pikachu and Charizard. When has GSC ever looked like it was a contest elite? NEVER! The only reason it would beat MM is if the remake boosted it big time, and this match proves that the remakes didn't do anything for it.

Why is this site full of drones because of this match?


Heh, I've been saying all contest that RBY is the sole reason people took GSC to win this match. Board 8 overestimation after getting burned strikes again. Can't wait for Yoshi to beat Charizard and burn everyone next year too.
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