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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:19:59 PM | message detail
It.

Always.

F***ing.

Wins.



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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 9:20:30 PM | message detail
DA PRIZE
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Big Bob | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:29 PM | message detail
Da-da-da-daaaaa!
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:25:16 PM | message detail
Remember 2003 and 2007. NEVER AGAIN.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:26:10 PM | message detail
YEA ZELDA WIN ME SOME TESTICLES.

Not calling this til noon though. Somehow, I've convinced myself there will be some sort of Square Night vote for Pokemon.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:28:25 PM | message detail
I'm actually curious as to how Zelda fans will defend the whole 'drone' argument from now on. Because if people weren't serious about it before this match, they definitely are now.

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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:29:59 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #006
I'm actually curious as to how Zelda fans will defend the whole 'drone' argument from now on. Because if people weren't serious about it before this match, they definitely are now.


If it were truly drone voting, Link's Crossbow Training would win this match. Or Link's Awakening. Or Zelda II.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:30:55 PM | message detail
ExTha butthurt, bracket shoots up the ranks for a guarenteed 28 points, finally shut up some pre-contest trash talking. Feels good man. This is definitely the "Holy crap how don't you people see this?" obvious match of the contest.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:31:38 PM | message detail
^5 everyone on Team Wigs aka Team "Pokemon's strength is overrated"
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:31:41 PM | message detail
After this match, Link's Crossbow Training probably beats half the field.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:31:56 PM | message detail
I'm cool with losing the match.

But what irks me the most is that people who used absolutely garbage logic to make the decision acting like they're geniuses.

They didn't do anything intelligent. They committed suicide and the pistol mis-fired. Continuing to make picks with this kind of logic will kill you in every other contest.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 9:32:00 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #011
After this match, Link's Crossbow Training probably beats half the field.


whoa there
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:32:22 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #006
I'm actually curious as to how Zelda fans will defend the whole 'drone' argument from now on. Because if people weren't serious about it before this match, they definitely are now.


Once again, second best Zelda game vs a second rate Pokemon. The fact that you consider Zelda fans to be drones compared to Pokemon fans is more than enough to invalidate any arguments you make. At least Zelda games have some variety, instead of just slapping a few new Pokemon into the same engine and calling it a day.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:32:41 PM | message detail
Also I will admit the fact that Black Turtle got something right is absolutely maddening.
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Mr3790 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:32:48 PM | message detail
Only half the field?
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_fooImoron_ | Posted 12/13/2010 9:32:50 PM | message detail
^5 everyone on Team Alec aka Team With One More Testicle Than You Pokenerds
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2010 9:32:55 PM | message detail
This match is an overhyped dud, and we're losing one of the greatest games in the bracket...

BUT! On the bright side, this will make it all the more satisfying when Zelda goes up against RE4 in the semis, and loses in an Ulti-style blowout. "aww yeah"

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creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 9:33:00 PM | message detail
It might make the final, but FFX will be a tall order. Then again I thought GSC could beat FFX, so I don't see why Majora can't do it. I had a feeling those people would vote Ocarina by proxy here. The stats topic immediately dismissing the theory meant it would happen, too.

That theory is completely ridiculous, come on now, don't be crazy. OoT proxy theory is utter garbage and has no credibility.

Also saying GSC could beat FFX so MM can do it is clearly not good logic. Since it's obvious at this point that FFX would've spanked GSC.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:33:13 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #015
Also I will admit the fact that Black Turtle got something right is absolutely maddening.


You should be used to it by now
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 9:33:19 PM | message detail
And somehow, despite being very happy with the result of this match, BT manages to make me want a GSC comeback.

Well played.
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Kamekguy | Posted 12/13/2010 9:33:25 PM | message detail
Hey guys, so how much is Pokemon winni--

*checks poll*

... y'know, when I played Majora's Mask for the first time today, and had more fun with it than I did with GSC and certainly more fun than any other Zelda... I think that should have told me something.
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:33:34 PM | message detail
man, Pokemon fans are just as 'drony' as Zelda fans. stop with the whining. this isn't a ridiculous result.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:33:58 PM | message detail

From: _fooImoron_ | #017
^5 everyone on Team Alec aka Team With One More Testicle Than You Pokenerds


^5 ^5


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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:24 PM | message detail
MM probably won't beat FFX, but why can't it? Its contest history has consisted of a quadruple SFF match, a triple SFF match, inconclusive matches against relative unknowns, and now this. I guess it's still the underdog, but if this match isn't SFF, then if Pokemon's 4-way results have anywhere near the truth, it's got a chance.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:26 PM | message detail
I'm actually curious as to how Zelda fans will defend the whole 'drone' argument from now on. Because if people weren't serious about it before this match, they definitely are now.

Last time I checked we didn't have an all-Zelda final.

Stop whining

Actually continue it's funny to watch.
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Haguile | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:34 PM | message detail

From: AlecTrevelyan006 | #008
If it were truly drone voting, Link's Crossbow Training would win this match. Or Link's Awakening. Or Zelda II.


I rallied for Crossbow Training during the nom phase. We got around 30 noms or so. Next time we should do a board wide effort just to test how strong the Zelda/Link name really is.
azuarc | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:39 PM | message detail
Looking at the results here, I'm sure glad I took MGS4 over GSC in the quarterfinals to stem the bleeding that hype train caused....DAMMIT!

On one side, this result really screws me over. I needed MM to lose, and I really do want to see it burn in flames. The aforementioned Zelda fans who hate one game in the series? Yeah, this is totally mine. OTOH, this bodes well for my pick of Twilight Princess for the contest if this is simply the strength of Zelda on the whole.


Then again, the percentage is only 55/45 right now.
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:40 PM | message detail

From: transients | #020
man, Pokemon fans are just as 'drony' as Zelda fans. stop with the whining. this isn't a ridiculous result.


The gulf between RBY, GSC, and DPP/RSE are all huge.

The gulf between the Zelda mainline games is...not, once you take out OoT.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:52 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #020
You should be used to it by now


XD

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EvilNcr | Posted 12/13/2010 9:34:57 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #492
The really striking thing is that MM is winning by more than it did when RBY was in the poll. Normal LFF mechanics just completely fail in explaining this result.


I explained it the logic in the last topics. RBY was played by everybody and is a special beast. Its votes are split to MM because the first Pokemon is the only one everyone played and it's nostalgic. Even I played and beat it and that's really something considering I never played OoT, WW, TP, Mario 64, MM, Sunshine and Galaxy1-2.

And I also said that MGS 33% or so would go favorably to MM.
And lastly, Zelda>Mario>Metroid=Pokemon is the general order here. It was a match that could be easily be called based on Galaxy owning DPP and then being owned by TP because it goes by pecking order for Nintendo series, exception being RBY.

Anyway, that was my logic for that match.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:19 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #025
MM probably won't beat FFX, but why can't it? Its contest history has consisted of a quadruple SFF match, a triple SFF match, inconclusive matches against relative unknowns, and now this. I guess it's still the underdog, but if this match isn't SFF, then if Pokemon's 4-way results have anywhere near the truth, it's got a chance.


Not to mention FFX has looked like ass. Nothing would make me happier than to see it taken out by a great game like Majora.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:23 PM | message detail
Last time I checked we didn't have an all-Zelda final.

*checks the bracket paths*

You sure about that?

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:27 PM | message detail

From: transients | #023
man, Pokemon fans are just as 'drony' as Zelda fans. stop with the whining. this isn't a ridiculous result.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4179

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zenk123 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:32 PM | message detail
So will MM beat RE4?

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:33 PM | message detail
erm

People still bother with Turtle? It's pretty obvious what his angle is by now.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:52 PM | message detail
Also guys do you know what this means?

SAVE_US.SOTC
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/13/2010 9:35:57 PM | message detail
I'm sure glad I took MGS4 over GSC in the quarterfinals to stem the bleeding that hype train caused....DAMMIT!

I actually did that as well.
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WiggumFan267 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:36:29 PM | message detail
ExTha, my theory all along was that Pokemon benefitted a lot from 4ways and it would see significant dropoff from that. 4 ways are much more susceptible to 'upset' picks (which GSC was at the time) and Pokemon is not really SFF with Nintendo/Zelda. I also stand RBY is much stronger than GSC, and I would have taken RBY here, easily. As I'm sure most of us would. Even seeing this result. Even if MM were to win with 60%.


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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/13/2010 9:36:30 PM | message detail
If you made everyone take an IQ test before voting, I guarantee you Zelda would take a tremendous drop in contest prowess
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:36:36 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #036
erm

People still bother with Turtle? It's pretty obvious what his angle is by now.


It just sucks because usually he's horrifically wrong with his garbage logic, and now he's pulled something off, making my head hurt.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:36:38 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #033
Also guys do you know what this means?

SAVE_US.SOTC


It faces a Zelda game in the Elite 8.

No chance.

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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:36:57 PM | message detail
Yes, because the people playing Pokemon are the paragon of intelligence?
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2010 9:37:00 PM | message detail
So will MM beat RE4?

Melee isn't beating RE4, man!

:P

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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 9:37:01 PM | message detail
Also guys do you know what this means?

SAVE_US.SOTC


best post you've made tonight
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pjbasis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:37:15 PM | message detail
I felt really good about Morrowind > Warcraft III.

This must be what you Zelda guys feel x10.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:37:33 PM | message detail

From: WiggumFan267 | #039
ExTha, my theory all along was that Pokemon benefitted a lot from 4ways and it would see significant dropoff from that. 4 ways are much more susceptible to 'upset' picks (which GSC was at the time) and Pokemon is not really SFF with Nintendo/Zelda. I also stand RBY is much stronger than GSC, and I would have taken RBY here, easily. As I'm sure most of us would. Even seeing this result. Even if MM were to win with 60%.


Okay, that still doesn't make any sense when you factor in Charizard's performance on the back of GSC's wildly popular re-release.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:37:37 PM | message detail
I'm not even sure who you're talking about, ExTha.
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:37:59 PM | message detail
come on ExTha, I expect more from you

you're complaining about people blindly voting for Zelda when it's up against a Pokemon game, the ultimate repetitive and stale series
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 9:38:12 PM | message detail
If anything, this results hints at less variance among the Pokemon entrants. There's probably not a terribly huge difference between GSC and DPP and RSE. Heck, Majora is winning comfortably enough right now that it may even be able to give RBY a fight.

From where I stand, less variance means a more unified and - dare I say it - "hivemind" of a fanbase.
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