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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 1:30:24 PM | message detail
On the plus side, SotC is an awesome game, and MGS3 will likely be stronger than 4 and win next round in one of my brackets big "upset" picks.

On the downside lol mgs4
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 1:30:32 PM | message detail
Who has the link to the article/poll on IGN about the favorite SSB-game? I can't find it anymore, but it being a week or two old and seeing SSBB beat SSBM + SSB combined despite all the Wii-hate talk suggests to me that it hasn't "settled" like MGS4 has. Nintendo's also automatically got a little more longevity here than most games, so trying to try it to the hip with MGS4 (despite its entire series looking worse this contest), FO3 (an unrelated WRPG that's still looking to reach the Final Four this contest), and CoD4 (despite its series becoming quite hated here since BGE2) in the midst of four-ways is forcing an argument.

I get that they're common opponents. Still, who wants to bet MGS4 and CoD4 have been constant this contest? Who REALLY knows where FO3 is at right now? Hasn't SSBB been impressive enough in its limited data to get too down on it? What about said IGN-poll? SSBB was older than MGS4, SSBB's lead character's story wasn't returning and ending, and SSBB wasn't the Wii's first AAA-game. Between that and Snake being in the only game bigger than MGS4 here in 2008, I think MGS4 had much more reason to "settle" from its BGE2-showing. Many people predicted it would drop, and now we've seen it happen; MGS4 has gone from beating SSBB in the overall-GotY to losing worse to SotC than MGS2.

Hard to hold that against SSBB and suggest it's "settled" similarly.
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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 1:33:58 PM | message detail
I like this match because it means MGS2 > MGS4.

And that means all is right in the world.
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SpeedYoshi | Posted 12/13/2010 1:33:58 PM | message detail
sotc darkhorsing the **** out of this contest
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methedemon | Posted 12/13/2010 1:34:59 PM | message detail
you would think these seemingly endless contests couldn't get any lamer. This whole bandwagoning a silly joke character/game isn't cute anymore. Yet it seems every contest has one, L-Block, Charizard, Missingno and now SoTC

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Mr3790 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:37:43 PM | message detail
My head exploded after seeing this result.
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InfernoCrossing | Posted 12/13/2010 1:40:53 PM | message detail

From: methedemon | #105
you would think these seemingly endless contests couldn't get any lamer. This whole bandwagoning a silly joke character/game isn't cute anymore. Yet it seems every contest has one, L-Block, Charizard, Missingno and now SoTC


So...you're saying SotC isn't a good game? lolwut?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 1:42:15 PM | message detail
I reiterate once again that this is not guaranteed bandwagoning, at least not to the extent where Charizard gets 54% on Kratos and then 46% on Mario two weeks later. Give it another round.
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zenk123 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:42:53 PM | message detail
Can't see SotC beating MGS3 in a night match. Asia loves Snake.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:47:28 PM | message detail
Don't see why this has to be bandwagoning. MGS4 already looked bad last round against Diablo 2 (Melee doubled that game). Yes, this is bad for Brawl, but not definitive. I'd prefer it to be bad for all the new games (LTTP to 60-40 FFX, aw yeah).
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 1:49:09 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #110
I'd prefer it to be bad for all the new games


You would say that >_>
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 1:49:14 PM | message detail
there are some amazing conclusions being drawn here.

but yeah, this doesn't have to be bandwagoning. I have a hard time taking SOTC over D2, but it isn't out of the question.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/13/2010 1:49:19 PM | message detail

From: InfernoCrossing | #107
So...you're saying SotC isn't a good game? lolwut?


He knows it's a good game. He's just trying to reassure himself that it isn't.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 1:53:34 PM | message detail
This result is awesome. I just got home from a very long final and run of errands and voted Shadow of the Colossus...

(No really, I did: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/7328/bandwagon.jpg)

...and I was very pleasantly surprised. I'm already out of the guru, so my rooting interest here is a bit outside the box.

-First and foremost, I wanted to see greatone's outstanding MGS3 vs SotC picture get used next round: http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6082/mgs3vssotccopy.png ; it's a top-10-image-ever type of match pic, and really needs to see the home page. I don't like SotC as a game, but that picture captures the one thing I loved about it. If you think I'm just making crap up to avoid taking heat for this result or whatever, go read the pic topic. I was rooting for this way before the match started.

-MGS2 > 4 in the stats is too good.

-LOL all the games connected to Brawl. Melee going 60-40 is back on, oh yes.

-Bandwagon runs and people crying about bandwagon runs are the best thing about every contest. I'm all for SotC, Portal or Pokemon raising hell in this bracket.

-I haven't been very happy with the MGS series since 4, and I haven't been happy with it in contests since the Snake > Seph battle royale shenanigans. KP can vouch for this: I said after MGS2 lost that the entire series deserves to get slapped for doing that. All we need now is Mario feeling the sting and we'll have come full circle.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:58:33 PM | message detail
I'm torn on the subject of bandwagons.

I dislike when they beat games I like. But I love delicious tears...
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:59:24 PM | message detail
I believe that still Snake beats Sephiroth though.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:01:18 PM | message detail
I don't see how this isn't a bandwagon. It's obvious the MGS series has lost some steam, but not this much. Run a Diablo 2 vs SotC poll tomorrow and Diablo 2 could have a legit chance to win.

I also wish I knew which stats topic it was, or that I'd have saved tran's topic ranking the round 3 matches. I was literally the only person saying SotC had a good chance to win this, and everyone else gave me crap about being too extreme. This mentality is why the stats topic will always finish in the 99th percentile but never win anything. You are a hivemind -- a collective slave to extrapolated standings and using past results to project future results.

To make a gambling analogy, you guys pretend roulette wheels don't have a 0 on them.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 2:01:46 PM | message detail

From: greatone
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Pretty solid. We also need an alternative picture where Wander and Agro are facing a Metal Gear.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 2:03:33 PM | message detail
thank god ulti's here to set us straight
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:04:00 PM | message detail

From: Safer Sephiroth 777 | #116
I believe that still Snake beats Sephiroth though.


Speaking of that, this is the first time since Brawl's announcement (you're goddamn right I'm going back to bringing up Brawl) where Snake or MGS has shown any weakness at all. I gave Smurf crap pre-contest for him saying the MGS series' time in the sun was coming to an end, so he deserves an apology. He's still wrong about Pokemon, though.

For those wondering about the PCA, you've obviously never taken a high-level debating class. Arguing the opposite position of your personal beliefs makes you smarter.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:04:20 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #118
Pretty solid. We also need an alternative picture where Wander and Agro are facing a Metal Gear.


I'm all over that one <3
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 2:06:01 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #117
I also wish I knew which stats topic it was, or that I'd have saved tran's topic ranking the round 3 matches. I was literally the only person saying SotC had a good chance to win this, and everyone else gave me crap about being too extreme. This mentality is why the stats topic will always finish in the 99th percentile but never win anything. You are a hivemind -- a collective slave to extrapolated standings and using past results to project future results.

To make a gambling analogy, you guys pretend roulette wheels don't have a 0 on them.


Uh, you make the majority of these topics and the majority of us have won something, so there's no place for you to sling hiveminded insults our way. This feels like an alternative way to troll since SotC didn't lose today.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 2:06:28 PM | message detail
I was hoping more for a "Meh, video game contests, I'm 28 years old and I have sex with women <3" Ulti response like I said in the last topic, but a "HAHA you guys aren't as smart as I am you losers" post.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:07:40 PM | message detail

From: HaRRicH | #122
the majority of us have won something


True, I'll correct that into "never get first place".

If only yoblazer had picked Glove > Monkey :'(
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:08:09 PM | message detail
Get on PSTriple and SSF4 with me, you bum
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 2:08:31 PM | message detail
Yeah, bad class Ulti. You gave me that AWESOME DEAL on Photoshop and all, but I'm not gonna sit here and let you even PRETEND to feel good about yourself after losing confidence in Our The Holiest Melee. In the corner with you. Think about what you've done. Realize that I'M the one who'll get to laugh for five years when Melee wins. This hurts you.
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vcharon | Posted 12/13/2010 2:08:33 PM | message detail
If SotC got a sequel (somehow), could Wander be a high midcarder if he stood out a little more? Maybe even more?!
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FourthDeus | Posted 12/13/2010 2:12:04 PM | message detail
Shadow of the Colossus is getting a sequel. It's called The Last Guardian.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:13:30 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #126
Yeah, bad class Ulti. You gave me that AWESOME DEAL on Photoshop and all, but I'm not gonna sit here and let you even PRETEND to feel good about yourself after losing confidence in Our The Holiest Melee. In the corner with you. Think about what you've done. Realize that I'M the one who'll get to laugh for five years when Melee wins. This hurts you.


That hurts :'(

And dude, my whole argument centered around nostalgia and older games having an advantage. Casuals do prefer Brawl, and to me Brawl looked like the stronger game last year. And then the Kingdom Hearts match happened and I totally lost faith. The High Templar find my lack of faith disturbing.

And I forgot to comment on something:

From: HaRRicH | #122
This feels like an alternative way to troll since SotC didn't lose today.


You're a theater guy who memorizes thousands of words of text on the regular, so I know you didn't miss the part where I voted for it and provided a screenshot. What other proof do you want that I'm rooting for SotC here, a donated kidney?
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Big Bob | Posted 12/13/2010 2:14:14 PM | message detail
Don't forget Shadow of the Colossus HD!
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xp1337 | Posted 12/13/2010 2:14:20 PM | message detail
*Sees match for the first time*

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neonreaper | Posted 12/13/2010 2:14:43 PM | message detail
both kidneys would be nice
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:16:50 PM | message detail
I can give 1½ at most.
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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/13/2010 2:18:26 PM | message detail
Oh, Ulti can't give Melee all his confidence, and he can't give us all his kidneys.

Ulti, must you do EVERYTHING in half measures?
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voltch | Posted 12/13/2010 2:19:13 PM | message detail
what the snake is going on

MGS2>>>>>MGS4

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:20:39 PM | message detail
Oh I can give Melee all my confidence. This match has me back in.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/13/2010 2:21:20 PM | message detail
I reiterate once again that this is not guaranteed bandwagoning, at least not to the extent where Charizard gets 54% on Kratos and then 46% on Mario two weeks later. Give it another round.

I don't think the Charizard/Kratos match was bandwagoning. That was a round 2 match and bandwagons don't form that early in the contest. Bandwagons generally form later in the contest when matches are far more likely to have low prediction percentages. Charizard/Kratos might have had a low prediction percentage, but Vivi/Altair, Hayabusa/Chief, and Yoshi/Missingno all had lower prediction percentages for round 2. I think the Charizard bandwagon started after it defeated L-Block in round 3. So Charizard's matches against Bowser and Mario were definitely bandwagoning.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/13/2010 2:24:10 PM | message detail
Hey guys. So what's today's match?

Oh hey MGS4 vs. SotC?

lol MGS4 only has 51%.




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wait what is this
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:27:33 PM | message detail
I completely forgot Charizard faced L-Block last year. It's a shame he couldn't finish the deal and beat Mario.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 2:29:48 PM | message detail
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 2:30:38 PM | message detail
Charizard didn't really look like bandwagoning to me. His matches looked quite consistent, once you account for the HG/SS release/hype boost in the Bowser and Mario matches, with the exception perhaps of the Kratos match. That match is the one that stands out as aberrant, not the other 4.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/13/2010 2:33:50 PM | message detail

From: FourthDeus | #128
Shadow of the Colossus is getting a sequel. It's called The Last Guardian.


That's a spiritual succesor, not a sequel. Though Ueda loves keeping his games open for interpretation.
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FourthDeus | Posted 12/13/2010 2:34:31 PM | message detail
I know. It was a joke.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/13/2010 2:36:04 PM | message detail
-LOL all the games connected to Brawl. Melee going 60-40 is back on, oh yes.

I know deep down you never even thought Brawl had a chance and wanted some insurance.

Melee is going to STOMP Brawl.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:38:10 PM | message detail
Honestly? Deep down I was scared to death Brawl would win until about an hour ago. Melee losing would be the mother of all choke jobs at this point.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/13/2010 2:40:18 PM | message detail
Indeed. But for now lets build hype for MM>GSC! Cmon Link!
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/13/2010 2:40:57 PM | message detail
* checks match picture

WHAT THE ****
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 2:42:13 PM | message detail
POKEMON GOT DIS
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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 2:43:58 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | Posted: 12/13/2010 5:13:30 PM | #129
so I know you didn't miss the part where I voted for it and provided a screenshot.


You act like that screenshot tells us anything about what you voted for.

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AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/13/2010 2:44:16 PM | message detail

From: Assassin_Thane | #146
Indeed. But for now lets build hype for MM>GSC! Cmon Link!


Where have you been?

Didn't you respond to a topic where we talked about the match pic?
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