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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 12:42:41 PM | message detail
And its not like MGS has looked good this whole contest. Well your best performance comes from 57% on Paper Mario, then you know something is up. I think its more believable that MGS4 has fallen in strength since the last contest instead of "oh boy MGS4 actually sucks I guess that means all the games it beat suck too"
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paulg235 | Posted 12/13/2010 12:45:16 PM | message detail
I honestly wouldn't be shocked if Portal could beat MGS4 now.
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Greyfeld | Posted 12/13/2010 12:46:02 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #051
And its not like MGS has looked good this whole contest. Well your best performance comes from 57% on Paper Mario, then you know something is up. I think its more believable that MGS4 has fallen in strength since the last contest instead of "oh boy MGS4 actually sucks I guess that means all the games it beat suck too"


You know, I think a drop in strength is an acceptable theory.

But the moment you throw the idea that SotC is getting bandwagoned out the window, you no longer have a leg to stand on. Because there's no f***ing way MGS2 is stronger than MGS4.
Hochimihnister | Posted 12/13/2010 12:46:14 PM | message detail
anyway, this is an awesome upset. we freaked out when Magus went down but this is bigger.

Uh, no. Not even close
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 12:47:30 PM | message detail
I think its a bit of both. MGS4 has dropped off from its position of prominence and SotC has a bandwagon effect going.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 12:48:28 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #054
anyway, this is an awesome upset. we freaked out when Magus went down but this is bigger.

Uh, no. Not even close


Oh c'mon, did ANYBODY pick SotC > MGS4 pre-contest? There isn't even a single Guru who went that way.
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vegita4life | Posted 12/13/2010 12:50:26 PM | message detail
That was quite an update..
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 12:51:48 PM | message detail
Yep, SotC is whooping MGS4's ass in the ASV. What the HELL happened to that game?
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zenk123 | Posted 12/13/2010 12:52:02 PM | message detail
SotC just about to break 700 votes. Is the ASV really in favor of MGS4?

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 12:52:24 PM | message detail
God damn, I guess I should expect such reactionary outbursts after this embarrassment. This result is not exactly good for Brawl - MGS4 has basically been the FFX to its Melee. They are inexplicably tied to the hip, having shared some 4-5 polls in the last few years. In fact, they are far more linked than Melee and FFX, because they have shared more polls and all have been recent. Believe what you guys want, but of course this looks bad for Brawl. Suddenly, maybe those day match beatdowns against weaksauce Nintendo handhels and Valkyria Chronicles don't look so impressive to me - not when Melee tested itself in a terrible timeframe against games that can actually bring in their own fanbase. If Halo does well on F3 tomorrow, that'll make another Brawl-tied game look bad. My confidence in Melee is certainly not wavering after this performance, I'll tell you that much.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/13/2010 12:53:15 PM | message detail
That's the ASV, I no longer believe MGS4 has any chance of a comeback.
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melikepizza | Posted 12/13/2010 12:54:03 PM | message detail
what the hell happened to those 3 consecutive updates MGS4, god, the casuals are gonna be laughing so hard at us :(
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 12:54:55 PM | message detail
yoblazer'd

nobody picked Knuckles either and Magus was the 2:1 favourite to take the division. it's about the same thing as MGS4. it's even more astounding in 2010 since people aren't blindly following x-stats like in 2005.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/13/2010 12:56:30 PM | message detail
My top 5 games last decade are still in this contest..Go SOTC, Go Melee, Go Prime, Go RE4, Go Majora!

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fyrael | Posted 12/13/2010 12:56:35 PM | message detail
Oh c'mon, did ANYBODY pick SotC > MGS4 pre-contest? There isn't even a single Guru who went that way.

I believe just last topic someone said they had MGS3 > SotC in the division final for their bracket. So...I'm guessing exactly one person did.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 12:56:39 PM | message detail
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 12:57:35 PM | message detail
whoa cut powers activate
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/13/2010 12:58:01 PM | message detail
This wasn't exactly coming out of nowhere though. A few people talked about SotC beating MGS4 after SotC won last round. Nothing too serious but there was rustlings. Magus/Knux on the other hand came out of nowhere. So, Magus/Knux was much bigger
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 12:58:27 PM | message detail
Yes/No: This means nothing for Brawl.
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raytan7585 | Posted 12/13/2010 12:58:31 PM | message detail
That's a big cut!

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 12:58:49 PM | message detail
So 1 person from this board had it...Man that is good for the board right?The correct prediction then from this board will be 0,01%Oh yeah!
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/13/2010 12:58:51 PM | message detail
Why do people think there is still an ASV? Half the schools are out now while the other half have screwy finals schedules. The ASV will no longer play a role in this contest
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 1:00:22 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #069
Yes/No: This means nothing for Brawl.


Yes.

None of the upcoming matches mean anything for Melee/Brawl except *gasp* Melee/Brawl. In fact, its been like that this whole contest.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:00:56 PM | message detail
Oh c'mon, did ANYBODY pick SotC > MGS4 pre-contest? There isn't even a single Guru who went that way.

More than the people that took Knuckes over Magus.
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melikepizza | Posted 12/13/2010 1:01:24 PM | message detail
here we go again
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:01:59 PM | message detail
Why do people think there is still an ASV? Half the schools are out now while the other half have screwy finals schedules. The ASV will no longer play a role in this contest

The high schools around here finish on Friday
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/13/2010 1:02:42 PM | message detail
The high schools around here ended last friday
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 1:03:50 PM | message detail
I dunno, it seems that MGS4 has certainly lost a step. CoD has as well. The jury is out on F3 until it faces a legit game from earlier in the decade in a day. Those games are tied to Brawl. I thought even before this contest began that Brawl would have certainly lost a step from early 2009. I still hold to that theory. After all, it still has not gone up against a game that could expose it. Three matches: two Nintendo handhels, one Valkyria Chronicles, all in the day. I still believe it's weaker now than then.

And if it's intrinsically weaker, it can obviously be weaker among the Nintendo fanbase that will decide the SFF.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 1:05:35 PM | message detail
Yo does have a point, if this was MGS4 settling, what's stopping Brawl from settling?
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 1:06:06 PM | message detail
Some schools are out here, plus much of Tennessee got a lot of snow so whatever is still active is closed today. I don't know how much the rest of the South (or nation) got, but whatever ASV is involved today may be delayed an hour or two.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 1:07:58 PM | message detail
Its not like Diablo 2(a game tied to Melee) has been lighting it up out there either. Its best performance is 45% on MGS4 which, as we see in this match, isn't exactly praise-worthy.
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jupizzle | Posted 12/13/2010 1:08:02 PM | message detail
One's also got to admit, the SOTC pic is pretty effin badass indeed. Definitely didn't hurt it's chances from the get go.
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draarrowgant | Posted 12/13/2010 1:08:19 PM | message detail
What's also interesting is looking at the ramifications of the next two rounds if SOTC wins here... The performance of GSC, MM, and MGS3 will quickly determine who has the best chance of winning this.

http://www.thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=119

and

http://www.thengamer.com/guru/stats.php?match=124

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Mac Arrowny | Posted 12/13/2010 1:08:57 PM | message detail
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Kamekguy | Posted 12/13/2010 1:09:12 PM | message detail
From what I've seen of Cali (that being outside), it's sunny and in-school.

I got this feeling coming over me.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 1:11:52 PM | message detail
Most (if not all) of Cali is still in school.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 1:12:01 PM | message detail
ya go my killer mgs asv

what

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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 1:14:20 PM | message detail
Too bad MGS4 let SotC build such a big lead before it decided to wake up. Could have made a match of this.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 1:15:06 PM | message detail
MGS needs to break down the lead so it can have another vote-stuff vs vote-stuff finale.
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The_Ps2_Devil | Posted 12/13/2010 1:15:49 PM | message detail
C'mon MGS, I BELIEVE!!! Keep them cuts coming. That and a loss here will equal death to my bracket...
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 1:16:46 PM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #088
Too bad MGS4 let SotC build such a big lead before it decided to wake up. Could have made a match of this.


what are you talking about this is totally doable

MGS secret ASV beast

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 1:18:44 PM | message detail
I hope SotC wins this partly because it will be so awesome watching my favorite MGS still dispatch it next round. Snake Eater's got night match boostees.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 1:19:43 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #092
I hope SotC wins this partly because it will be so awesome watching my favorite MGS still dispatch it next round. Snake Eater's got night match boostees.


You really think MGS3 wins that match after today, and after what SotC will be after two rounds of bandwagoning?

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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 1:20:18 PM | message detail
The bandwagoners won't be awake to help it!
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/13/2010 1:24:32 PM | message detail
The high schools around here finish on Friday

That's very early for Canada. High schools will finish on December 23rd in my area, but it could be different in other parts of the US. Colleges are a different story, though. Some colleges have already gotten off for Christmas breaks and all of them should be getting off by the end of this week.
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ffmasterjose | Posted 12/13/2010 1:27:23 PM | message detail
SotC beating MGS4? Damn
fyrael | Posted 12/13/2010 1:27:25 PM | message detail
Its not like Diablo 2(a game tied to Melee) has been lighting it up out there either. Its best performance is 45% on MGS4 which, as we see in this match, isn't exactly praise-worthy.

By what invisible, magical strings is Diablo II tied to Melee?
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 1:27:51 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #093
You really think MGS3 wins that match after today, and after what SotC will be after two rounds of bandwagoning?


Certainly. Not calling it a lock, but I am calling Snake Eater the big favorite. Look at things from my perspective:

- I thought MGS4 would be a clear step weaker this year (to the point that I didn't think Chris's 2>4 pick was THAT crazy)
- MGS2 obviously has no reason to be weaker, thus meaning a much smaller gap between the two
- SotC had a hideous pic disadvantage last round (that was the pic Snake used to score 1000% on Sora)
- SotC has the pic advantage this round, because that melty MGS art has always been crap
- I think MGS3 is the second strongest of its series legit
- It has a night match, which I think will do more to help its trends than to help SotC "shenanigans"

I'm not even sure how boosted SotC is right now. Wouldn't a super boost of this magnitude ("super boost" according to the people around here, because you guys apparently think MGS4/MGS2 is still a 60/40 or something) result in some higher votals? Votes here are barely ahead of KH/KHII, and that was a pure SFF match.
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FourthDeus | Posted 12/13/2010 1:29:52 PM | message detail
That's because there is no boost or bandwagoning.

MGS4 just isn't as strong, or SOTC isn't as weak, as many of you thought.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 1:30:08 PM | message detail

From: fyrael | #096
Its not like Diablo 2(a game tied to Melee) has been lighting it up out there either. Its best performance is 45% on MGS4 which, as we see in this match, isn't exactly praise-worthy.

By what invisible, magical strings is Diablo II tied to Melee?


The same strings YoBlazer is talking about with the 2009 Games Contests.
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