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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:14 PM | message detail
Chrono Cross is legit confirmed
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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:15 PM | message detail
The top five biggest turkeys of the contest, in my opinion:

1) Metal Gear as a whole
2) Pokemon G/S/C
3) GTA: San Andreas
4) Final Fantasy XII
5) Rock Band 2

Though if Majora keeps going up, G/S/C will probably get the #1 spot. Just sayin'.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:20 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Team Fortress 2 – 50.03% vs. Fable – 49.97% (R1) – 0.06%
2. Shadow of the Colossus – 50.04% vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 – 49.96% (R2) – 0.08%
3. Persona 4 – 50.27% vs. Dead Rising – 49.73% (R2) – 0.54%
4. Shadow of the Colossus – 50.43% vs. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 49.57% (R3) – 0.86%
5. Morrowind – 50.45% vs. Warcraft II – 49.55% (R1) – 0.90%
6. Street Fighter IV – 50.75% vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 49.25% (R1) – 1.50%
7. Deus Ex – 50.76% vs. Rock Band 2 – 49.24% (R1) – 1.52%
8. Pokemon RSE – 50.77% vs. Grand Theft Auto IV – 49.23% (R1) – 1.54%
9. Dead Rising – 50.91% vs. The World Ends With You – 49.09% (R1) – 1.82%
10. God of War – 51.46% vs. Tales of Symphonia – 48.54% (R2) – 2.92%

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Team Fortress 2 – 30893 vs. Fable – 30856 (R1) – 37
2. Shadow of the Colossus – 26975 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 – 26930 (R2) – 45
3. Persona 4 – 23368 vs. Dead Rising – 23117 (R2) – 251
4. Morrowind – 25522 vs. Warcraft III – 25066 (R1) – 456
5. Shadow of the Colossus – 27026 vs. Metal Gear Solid 4 – 26560 (R3) – 466
6. Deus Ex – 25117 vs. Rock Band 2 – 24365 (R1) – 752
7. Street Fighter IV – 27481 vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 26673 (R1) – 808
8. Pokemon RSE – 30021 vs. Grand Theft Auto IV – 29113 (R1) – 908
9. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 – 26911 vs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii – 25287 (R1) – 1624
10. Kingdom Hearts II – 27775 vs. Kingdom Hearts – 25211 (R3) – 2564

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Fable (R1) – 30856
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 29113
3. Metal Gear Solid 2 (R2) – 26930
4. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 26674
5. Sonic Adventure 2 (R1) – 26673
6. Metal Gear Solid 4 (R3) – 26560
7. Star Wars: KotOR (R3) – 25849
8. Paper Mario: TTYD (R2) – 25375
9. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (R1) – 25287
10. Kingdom Hearts (R3) – 25211

Top 10 Least Impressive Day Winners
1. Persona 4 (R2) – 23368
2. Deus Ex (R1) – 25117
3. Morrowind (R1) – 25522
4. Persona 4 (R1) – 25820
5. Half-Life 2 (R2) – 26337
6. CoD4: Modern Warfare (R2) – 26548
7. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 (R1) – 26911
8. Shadow of the Colossus (R2) – 26975
9. Shadow of the Colossus (R3) – 27026
10. Assassin’s Creed II (R1) – 27315

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Kingdom Hearts (R3) – 11.70%
2. Paper Mario vs. World of Warcraft (R2) – 13.73%
3. Shadow of the Colossus vs. Metal Gear Solid 4 (R3) – 15.19%
4. Golden Sun vs. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 16.05%
5. Pokemon RSE vs. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 26.23%
6. Metal Gear Solid 3 vs. Paper Mario (R3) – 26.79%
7. Persona 4 vs. Dead Rising (R2) – 27.47%
8. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Bioshock (R2) – 29.25%
9. Paper Mario: TTYD vs. Gears of War (R1) – 29.33%
10. Portal vs. Mass Effect (R3) – 30.36%

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Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:24 PM | message detail
Also, having ingrained myself with the fandom somewhat now and again, I can tell you Zelda fans aren't really drones, at least not when it comes to individual games. Everyone has at least one game they hate from the series. The fanbase is actually pretty infamous for being kinda unpleasable recently as a result.

That and G/S/C isn't that strong on top of Zelda SFF.
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:24 PM | message detail
To be fair, I'd be more fussed if it was a good Pokemon game. HG/SS, DPP, RBY, FRLG, etc. GSC is a decidedly average game until the final two boss fights, which pull it onto the "very good" level that every other game in the series is at.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:38 PM | message detail
Wind Waker winning this division is the worst possible result that could happen, so it probably happens.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:40 PM | message detail
How on Earth does MM win when it BARELY beat GSC with RBY in the poll?

How many of those moronic RBY fans are really sitting there and saying "Well we love RBY best, but we'll vote MM over GSC for sure!"

Augh.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 9:18:45 PM | message detail
Now watch Wind Waker lose to Oblivion just to screw everyone up.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 9:19:10 PM | message detail

From: EvilNcr | #449
72) UltimaterializerX 4772.72 +41.24 -333.56 43.39
78) EvilNcr 4692.91 +37.62 -413.37 45.12

Don't mock someone who has almost +2 points on average for every match.

And, this match? Called it.


Yeah, but you also called GTA3, ME1, and SMG1 to the elite eight. Kinda puts a damper on things.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:19:28 PM | message detail

From: transients | #448
why not? it's not like Majora's Mask is a monster unless you think GSC could still beat FFX. I mean, I guess that's possible but that would be one HELL of a jump. based on this match, Majora's Mask looks like it could compete with 2009 RBY and, well, yeah. I have to believe there's something else going on here.


This is easy to explain:

Majora's Mask is strong, but not strong enough to beat FFX
GSC is weakass, and last year was a complete fluke
MGS has fallen off the face of the earth, which makes sense given SotC's run
lol pokemon
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:19:47 PM | message detail
Also, having ingrained myself with the fandom somewhat now and again, I can tell you Zelda fans aren't really drones,

stop
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:19:54 PM | message detail
I love calling flops pre-contest!

The only way GSC would do anything here is if HG/SS boosted it. I hopped on that train but it looks like even that prediction was wrong. GSC isn't very strong. It's a solid midcarder, but that's it. I have no idea why people were so big into this game before the contest when it realistically had very, very little chance. GSC is not RBY which probably wouldn't have won this contest either. People thinking GSC would win really put way too much faith in the remakes this year.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:19:59 PM | message detail
Wait, what? Where are you getting this 55% on Mario from?

I think Snake/Mario would've been 50/50 last contest. Now Mario has to be favored though with the non-stop MGS floppin'.


I think the clearest signal of Snake > Mario was that Snake got approximately the same percentage on Sephiroth that Mario got on Charizard. There were a number of other matches suggesting Snake at 53-55% too, but I don't remember too well. It's kind of hard to take Snake now after seeing MGS fail constantly, yeah. I'll definitely take Samus over Snake if that match comes up.
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FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 9:20:11 PM | message detail
ExTha. Lost. to. Xenogears.

I don't care how far you've come as a series, you do not get to shake that stigma lightly.

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EvilNcr | Posted 12/13/2010 9:20:20 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #422
Okay.

http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=168


I'm not going to make any excuses for my sorry excuse of a bracket.

However....

72) UltimaterializerX 4772.72 +41.24 -333.56 43.39
78) EvilNcr 4692.91 +37.62 -413.37 45.12

I have almost +2 points per average each match than you do Ulti. That's 80 points behind with 6 less predictions.

And this match? Called it.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:21:02 PM | message detail
FFXII's a bigger flop than San Andreas. San Andreas went into a debated match against an unknown and lost while getting into high 40s with a few disadvantages (new release, time of day, picture). FFXII went into a debated match and got 40%... and unless Portal goes out and gets close to RE4, it wasn't even much stronger than expected.

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pjbasis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:21:53 PM | message detail
Somebody's trollin.
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:21:54 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #457
How on Earth does MM win when it BARELY beat GSC with RBY in the poll?

How many of those moronic RBY fans are really sitting there and saying "Well we love RBY best, but we'll vote MM over GSC for sure!"

Augh.


It actually makes sense when you think about it. Lots of people vote RBY because everybody played it and is probably the ONLY Pokemon game that most people will vote for.

GSC is definitely favoured by the "hardcore" Pokemon fans, so it held up surprisingly good against RBY and MM.

MM and RBY overlapped more by simply being extremely popular Nintendo games everyone played, while GSC had a core fanbase that supported it in both contests.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:22:13 PM | message detail

From: FFDragon | #464
ExTha. Lost. to. Xenogears.

I don't care how far you've come as a series, you do not get to shake that stigma lightly.


Stop saying this like it actually means anything when it almost beat this game in 4-ways while getting SFF crushed by its predecessor.

The reverse of this would be taking GSC if RBY was swapped with OoT in that poll. It would make just as little sense.

The only thing you'd be hoping is for ZeldaFAQs to come through and prove their robotic tendencies, and if you banked on that, then kudos to you.

But there was no other logical route you could draw to a MM victory here. To pretend that you did is just dumb and you should stop.
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:22:24 PM | message detail
this could be the best round 4 ever.

Melee/Brawl
TP/KH2
Wind Waker/Majora's Mask
Shadow of the Colossus/MGS3
Half-Life 2/Metroid Prime

only the all-Zelda final four can compete with this!
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:22:32 PM | message detail
That makes it worse. A match that Zelda wasn't even supposed to be in and it still wins. Terrible.

This makes the result all the more better XD.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:23:04 PM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #469
Stop saying this like it actually means anything when it almost beat this game in 4-ways while getting SFF crushed by its predecessor.

The reverse of this would be taking GSC if RBY was swapped with OoT in that poll. It would make just as little sense.

The only thing you'd be hoping is for ZeldaFAQs to come through and prove their robotic tendencies, and if you banked on that, then kudos to you.

But there was no other logical route you could draw to a MM victory here. To pretend that you did is just dumb and you should stop.


Once again, the entire GSC argument was "LOL LOOK AT THIS WEIRD SFF MATCH! CLEARLY GSC IS STRONGER THAN AN N64 ZELDA TITLE DERP HERP"
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MoogleKupo141 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:23:38 PM | message detail
well, there goes my shot at a prize
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:23:49 PM | message detail

From: transients | #470
this could be the best round 4 ever.

Melee/Brawl
TP/KH2
Wind Waker/Majora's Mask
Shadow of the Colossus/MGS3
Half-Life 2/Metroid Prime

only the all-Zelda final four can compete with this!


Aww yeah

Although of those, HL2/MP is probably the only really debateable match.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:03 PM | message detail
Also, having ingrained myself with the fandom somewhat now and again, I can tell you Zelda fans aren't really drones, at least not when it comes to individual games. Everyone has at least one game they hate from the series. The fanbase is actually pretty infamous for being kinda unpleasable recently as a result.

Truth. The Zelda series really does have one of the biggest differences between the strongest games and the weakest games. It's a long long distance from OOT to the next Zelda game- no other series comes close to it except for FF, which exceeds it by a little.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:10 PM | message detail
Is that the Oracle? Who cares about the Oracle? I pick the results I want to see instead of what I think will happen. Or did you miss my picking Melee with 60% in a couple days?

And even then I'm still beating you, so... nice job bringing that up?
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SuperAngelo128 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:13 PM | message detail

From: transients | #470
Melee/Brawl
TP/KH2
Wind Waker/Majora's Mask
Shadow of the Colossus/MGS3
Half-Life 2/Metroid Prime

only the all-Zelda final four can compete with this!


yeah this is a pretty cool Round 4
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JawolopingJeff | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:25 PM | message detail
If wind waker wins the division, I will be happy.
FFDragon | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:29 PM | message detail
I'd add something else, but Turtle actually conveyed the gist of it.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/13/2010 9:24:51 PM | message detail
What does Majora's Mask get on Pokemon DPP?
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/13/2010 9:25:00 PM | message detail
this could be the best round 4 ever.

And we are only 2 days away from the biggest match of the contest - Melee/Brawl.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:25:20 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #480
What does Majora's Mask get on Pokemon DPP?


70%?
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 9:25:47 PM | message detail
I can only hope we somehow get a Twilight Princess/Majora's Mask final.
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XxSoulxX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:25:55 PM | message detail
Most likely 58-60%.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:25:59 PM | message detail
This wasn't LOL 4-way stats or something. There's a direct match here.

The obvious silver lining, of course, is LOL 4-WAYS. I've been preaching for years about that format being illegitimate. I can get a match completely wrong and still come out a winner :D
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 9:26:09 PM | message detail
So which series sucked more this year: Pokemon or Metal Gear Solid?
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/13/2010 9:26:30 PM | message detail
Right, I'm actually going to sleep for real now, but as one last thing, let's not overrate MM because of this. We clearly have no adeqaute read on G/S/C and while I doubt it(seeding and all) WW could still be stronger.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:26:37 PM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #483
I can only hope we somehow get a Twilight Princess/Majora's Mask final.


The sad thing is this might actually be possible.
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Mr3790 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:26:49 PM | message detail
Now that my bracket was lit a flame...

TP>Smash anyone?
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creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 9:26:57 PM | message detail

From: Gooper Blooper | #2008
Decided to stick around for one update. Ridiculous Zelda gain. Pfft.

Next round somebody submit just a blank white square that says "THIS GAME HAS LINK IN IT". Just to see what happens.


At this point it would have to be favored over MGS4! >_>
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transients | Posted 12/13/2010 9:27:05 PM | message detail
MGS by far. Pokemon didn't flop hard against other games. it still beat GTA (lol), slammed Fire Emblem, crushed Advance Wars, etc.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 9:27:16 PM | message detail
The really striking thing is that MM is winning by more than it did when RBY was in the poll. Normal LFF mechanics just completely fail in explaining this result.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:27:23 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #486
So which series sucked more this year: Pokemon or Metal Gear Solid?


Let's wait and see a) how high MM gets b) Whether MGS3 can put SotC away
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/13/2010 9:28:10 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #492
The really striking thing is that MM is winning by more than it did when RBY was in the poll. Normal LFF mechanics just completely fail in explaining this result.


See my post earlier. GSC is definitely a more hardcore Pokemon game, RBY and Majora split the casual Nintendo vote.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 9:28:40 PM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #472
Once again, the entire GSC argument was "LOL LOOK AT THIS WEIRD SFF MATCH! CLEARLY GSC IS STRONGER THAN AN N64 ZELDA TITLE DERP HERP"


You can't slap LOL in front of a perfectly legitimate argument in hopes of invalidating it. Like I said, put OoT where RBY was, and swap the GSC/MM performances.

It makes no sense to take GSC in that case. It's not a weird SFF match, it's pretty empirical data that GSC isn't strong enough and gets mauled by both Zelda games.

Then pretend that one of the Majora's Mask characters had an amazing, dark horse like run in the last contest on the back of one of the most wildly successful re-releases in history.

No. ****ing. Sense.

If you got this match right, kudos to you. But please, please don't pretend that your logic made any sense. It didn't.
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creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 9:28:45 PM | message detail
People are really hyping MM>FFX? I don't see that happening.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 9:29:05 PM | message detail
Consider the source, ExTha :)
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Big Bob | Posted 12/13/2010 9:29:06 PM | message detail
Go Wind Waker! Win the division!

...I kind of need you to. >_>
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Pretty sure this is my first 500 topic
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The Real Truth | Posted 12/13/2010 9:29:23 PM | message detail
yes
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