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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 974
695924 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:20:12 AM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #343 You seriously think this thing can get past GSC? With sprites? --- lol opinions |
ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 10:20:13 AM | message detail |
SOTC
won't beat Pokemon or Zelda. I know people like to think "joke voting"
is what's happening here, but it really isn't. There might be a
bandwagon happening, but joke voting is not what this is. MGS4 hasn't
looked great all contest, maybe not below MGS2, but it certainly never
looked like it was going to compete with Pokemon. --- A journey of a thousand miles must begin with a single step. |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 10:20:17 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #344 --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer See You Space Cowboy |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 10:20:26 AM | message detail |
And
a game doesn't have to be looked at as a "joke" to get bandwagon
support, so I'm not sure where this sentiment is coming from. Don't fool yourself Leon, we all know Snake is a big joke. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:20:33 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4121 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4163 SotC's result right now implies that it would easily beat Wind Waker. Except that AC2 would smash AC. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 10:21:26 AM | message detail |
And Kirby, and maybe Charizard. --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg E-p-o-n-a |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2010 10:21:45 AM | message detail |
From: The Mana Sword | #354 Old Snake's jokes suck. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 10:21:51 AM | message detail |
SotC's result right now implies that it would easily beat Wind Waker. i see you're still under the impression that AC1 is stronger for no reason --- The whole object of travel is not to set foot on foreign land; it is at last to set foot on one's own country as a foreign land. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:22:29 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #355 There is absolutely no evidence that AC2 would 'smash' AC1. It probably wins, but they aren't going to be too far off. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:22:40 AM | message detail |
And
a game doesn't have to be looked at as a "joke" to get bandwagon
support, so I'm not sure where this sentiment is coming from. True, but the game should defeat a more diverse group; Starcraft went through Halo, KH and WW and Charizard went through Kratos, L-Block and Bowser. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
YERspy | Posted 12/13/2010 10:22:42 AM | message detail |
The
thing with joke voting is that there was very little to no joke votes
in the MGS2 match. NOW, people are thinking "woah, it would be
hilarious if SotC beat MGS4 and then kept going even further to the
finals!", and thus the joke votes. --- _foolmo_ 'I love you so much' - SineNomine |
_Regaro_ | Posted 12/13/2010 10:23:03 AM | message detail |
I would be fine with an SotC win if and only if RE4 beats Portal --- It's alright. That's what I believe, so let me keep believing it. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:23:14 AM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #358 MGS4 beat AC1 worse than WW beat AC2. AC2 could be stronger and MGS4 would still be favored in a matchup against WW. --- DFF |
YERspy | Posted 12/13/2010 10:23:36 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #359 AC2 would induce absolutely destructive SFF on AC1. No one would vote for AC1 given the choice between those too. --- _foolmo_ 'I love you so much' - SineNomine |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:23:52 AM | message detail |
Indirectly. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2010 10:24:12 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #360 Eh, the game/character just has to beat opponents the site didn't really expect it to beat, a la Kirby beating Dante, Master Chief, and Leon Kennedy. --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
EvilNcr | Posted 12/13/2010 10:24:40 AM | message detail |
From: LeonhartFour | #344 Because it was unlucky enough to go against one of the top 4 characters in Round 3. If it had legitimately taken on weaker opponents, it would likely have gained more steam every single round. SotC isn't bloody likely to stop in the next round and the round after that. And if it beats MM/GSC/WW, Nintendo fans will bandwagon it over RE4 and then all hell breaks loose and it wins the contest. --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2010 10:24:51 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #363 Yes, but I'll take WW > MGS4 at this point. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:25:26 AM | message detail |
The
thing with joke voting is that there was very little to no joke votes
in the MGS2 match. NOW, people are thinking "woah, it would be
hilarious if SotC beat MGS4 and then kept going even further to the
finals!", and thus the joke votes. You know the saying, one's an accident, two's a trend? If SotC does get bandwagon it'll be next round not right here. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 10:25:53 AM | message detail |
Yeah,
now that I've seen that there is little difference between MGS4 and
MGS2 here and knowing SotC/MGS2 weren't too strong last year, I can't
take them all to be close to where LoZ:WW is at right now. Since AC2
got significantly closer to LoZ:WW than AC did to MGS4, AC2 would take
AC on with ease...and it makes sense given their receptions. --- Epona: your #1 bet to cause great/terrible upsets in CB9. |
ZFS | Posted 12/13/2010 10:25:54 AM | message detail |
Who is thinking this. Joke voting implies there's something funny about SOTC doing well. What's far
more likely is that people see that SOTC beat MGS2 on its own,
something most wouldn't have expected to happen, especially the casual
passerby who assumes big name franchise = win, and decided to throw
more support behind it in the hopes it'd go further. And given that
MGS4 isn't exactly some loved game, it's not hard to push past it. Game
isn't nearly as strong as people were thinking it was - and it makes
more sense for MGS4 to be down on a level close to this than where
people were holding it to. Bandwagon, sure; joke voting, no. --- The whole object of travel is not to set foot on foreign land; it is at last to set foot on one's own country as a foreign land. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/13/2010 10:26:50 AM | message detail |
MGS4 cut let's do this --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
UOTY2011 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:27:45 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #369 I think we can all agree with that, but you have to agree that SotC gained some monster momentum (which is basically bandwagon) since last match. --- _foolmo_ 'and out of the blue and completely unprovoked came foolmo and his insult' - Anagram |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:29:12 AM | message detail |
Who
is thinking this. Joke voting implies there's something funny about
SOTC doing well. What's far more likely is that people see that SOTC
beat MGS2 on its own, something most wouldn't have expected to happen,
especially the casual passerby who assumes big name franchise = win,
and decided to throw more support behind it in the hopes it'd go
further. And given that MGS4 isn't exactly some loved game, it's not
hard to push past it. Game isn't nearly as strong as people were
thinking it was - and it makes more sense for MGS4 to be down on a
level close to this than where people were holding it to. Bandwagon,
sure; joke voting, no. Look at the battle bracket it was split down the middle for that match, the casuals expected a close match last round. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
tgs2 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:30:47 AM | message detail |
It also had 30% support heading into this round so casuals were fairly confident in it advancing this far. --- You may take Mr. Rogers down, but I will be back and become more powerful than you ever imagine "tgs is taking it alone" |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:30:49 AM | message detail |
I
think we can all agree with that, but you have to agree that SotC
gained some monster momentum (which is basically bandwagon) since last
match. I don't since there wasn't any reason for it to gain momentum today. Anyone not in the know expected a close match between the two last round. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/13/2010 10:30:55 AM | message detail |
Okay, one more time since MGS4 got a cut: MGS2's percentage on SotC at this time: 49.98% MGS4's current percentage on SotC: 47.9% --- http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg Epona: C^ C< C>, C^ C< C> |
EvilNcr | Posted 12/13/2010 10:31:16 AM | message detail |
Yes,
next round against MGS3 is likely to be worse. And the way these
bandwagons go, lots of people will go for it winning the contest and
it'll gain support for MGS fans like me who'll say "f*** this, if it's
wiping the MGS series, it's winning everything. Then Nintendo fans
after get outraged, do similar stuff and RE4 is already the next target
and while you're still wondering what the hell just happened, it beats
RE4/FFX/Melee/Brawl --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:31:21 AM | message detail |
As of now, if SotC=WW, then AC2 gets 55.13% on AC1. Any higher, and WW wins. Any lower, and SotC wins. --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:32:30 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #376 But it was a close match. And that creates bandwagons more efficiently than anything else. Combine that with the casual going "Woah, SotC could beat every MGS game?" and you really don't see where this is coming from? --- DFF |
_Regaro_ | Posted 12/13/2010 10:32:34 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #379 Ignoring SFF I hope <_< --- |
Denzokuken | Posted 12/13/2010 10:32:38 AM | message detail |
This certainly isn't joke power, and I really doubt it's a bandwagon. Does that opening vote look like a bandwagon to you? --- 29/11/2010. Never forget. http://64.210.151.102/image.html?u=12565&dateline=1210104981 |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 10:32:45 AM | message detail |
I'd bet on AC2 scoring higher than 55-45 than lower, if I had to. --- There is no better video game company out there right now than Square-Enix - Denzokuken |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:33:09 AM | message detail |
It also had 30% support heading into this round so casuals were fairly confident in it advancing this far. 38.86% even. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:33:47 AM | message detail |
From: _Regaro_ | #381 It's purely by stats so what do you think? --- DFF |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/13/2010 10:35:31 AM | message detail |
From: ZFS | #371 Considering SotC only beat MGS2 by 45 votes (That's 50.04% for those of you keeping track), this result is ridiculous and is definitely in "joke vote" territory. Because let's be honest, even if MGS4 is less liked than MGS3, does this poll really make any semblance of sense with any other explanation? I mean, '09 x-stats MGS4 to 65/35 SotC. Are you HONESTLY telling me that a 1v1 format somehow overcompensates a 15% swing without massive joke voting?? I wasn't here for L-Block, but now I feel like I know how a lot of people felt in that contest. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:36:09 AM | message detail |
But
it was a close match. And that creates bandwagons more efficiently than
anything else. Combine that with the casual going "Woah, SotC could
beat every MGS game?" and you really don't see where this is coming
from? So you're saying every close match gives the winner a boost? Even despite the match was about a week ago so people had a chance to calm down. The casuals won't say that until it defeats MGS4 so expecting a possible bandwagon next round and not here is not crazy. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
shadow8021 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:36:30 AM | message detail |
lol MGS2 > MGS4 --- WE ARE... |
UOTY2011 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:36:39 AM | message detail |
Let's see what the prediction percentage is for this match and then we can decide for sure whether it was bandwagon or what --- _foolmo_ 'I love you so much' - SineNomine |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 10:36:41 AM | message detail |
I wasn't here for L-Block, but now I feel like I know how a lot of people felt in that contest. No you don't. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:37:50 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #387 I saw people looking at the division and going "Look at all those MGS games, wonder if it can beat all of them!" before SotC had even beaten MGS2. And then the match ended up being extremely close with SotC needing a big rally to win at the last minute. It absolutely matters. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:38:51 AM | message detail |
I
mean, '09 x-stats MGS4 to 65/35 SotC. Are you HONESTLY telling me that
a 1v1 format somehow overcompensates a 15% swing without massive joke
voting?? Let's see MGS4 has now cooled off since it was released and it is no longer THE PS3 game (it's still the strongest, but it has competition now) and the fact that it only got 55% on Diablo II all adds up to MGS4 being weaker this year. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
FourthDeus | Posted 12/13/2010 10:39:21 AM | message detail |
Exactly how do 4-way stats even translate to a 1v1 setting? --- 5/18/05 Never forget. Never forgive. |
EvilNcr | Posted 12/13/2010 10:40:13 AM | message detail |
MGS4 being weaker yes. Weaker than MGS2, there is no f****ing way that's possible. --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/13/2010 10:40:21 AM | message detail |
Why are people arguing as if getting a bandwagon and MGS4 being weaker are mutually exclusive. This is just a little from column A and a little from column B. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 10:40:57 AM | message detail |
I
saw people looking at the division and going "Look at all those MGS
games, wonder if it can beat all of them!" before SotC had even beaten
MGS2. And then the match ended up being extremely close with SotC
needing a big rally to win at the last minute. It absolutely matters. The only people that were doing that were us and everyone here believed that it had no chance against MGS4, not that it has shown it has a chance against MGS3 now people may rally it. Casuals don't analysis the bracket that much. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:41:20 AM | message detail |
And
yeah, MGS4 is weaker. But nothing so far indicated that it would have
any trouble with this match. The only reason people were considering
this is because it 'felt wrong', and gut instinct isn't much to go by. --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 10:42:25 AM | message detail |
The only people that were doing that were us Completely wrong. We were the people doing it the least, because we figured that MGS4 had it in the bag next round. All the people on this board, and off this site, that were getting excited about SotC potentially rampaging through the division were people that weren't 'in the know'. --- DFF |
TRE Public Account | Posted 12/13/2010 10:44:02 AM | message detail |
If
GSC makes it to the quarterfinal, it will have gone through two Zelda
games and shredded tons of brackets itself to match SotC running
through the MGS series. Even if SotC does start to have a bit of a
bandwagon, so would GSC. --- Dr_Football punted my bracket across the field. Congrats to Dr_Football for winning the Character Battle 8 Guru Contest! |
EvilNcr | Posted 12/13/2010 10:44:23 AM | message detail |
And
for the record, here is how L-Block started out... legit then gaining
squeaking by due to a favorable draw of midcarders hurting each other
and then bandwagoned to go right behind Solid Snake then all hell
breaks loose http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=25 http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=45 http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=55 http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=60 http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=62 http://oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k7&type=match&match=63 --- *sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16 |
