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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 973
Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/13/2010 4:42:01 AM | message detail |
A decent performance from an MGS game. Woah. Wait, I bet there was the usual board vote over-reaction against it... *checks* Yep. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
ESY16 | Posted 12/13/2010 4:45:29 AM | message detail |
From: nintendogirl1 | #373 That match was pretty much my entire reasoning behind picking GSC. Then again with my recent luck of picking debated matches people who choose GSC should be fairly afraid. However, I will say that I would be surprised if MGS votes didn't break in favor of MM. It wouldn't be by a lot, and it wouldn't be by enough to overcome the RBY break, but an opinion that a MGS vote break in MM's favor requires "magic" is a bit silly. Anyway, this will be a good test of whether 4-way matches have any credibility in predicting 1v1 matches in my eyes. If MM wins then either the whole LoZ franchise boosted somehow or I'm never using a 4-way poll for anything other than predicting 4-way matchups again. --- Operator of the Would You Hit It Topics! They're Back! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=8&topic=50421416 |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/13/2010 4:49:43 AM | message detail |
4-ways
suck to tell the truth.I too chose G/S/C to win but because I am a
fanboy.If I wan't a fanboy I would choose Zelda for sure. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/13/2010 4:57:02 AM | message detail |
I
picked GSC to win because of last year. I REALLY hope Majora's Mask
wins and kills my bracket just because it's such an awesome game while
GSC is...I dunno, the start of the whole Pokemon rehashing stupidity? --- Currently Playing - Zelda: Majora's Mask, Smash Bros. Melee Next Games Up - Resident Evil 4, Okami, StarCraft |
transience | Posted 12/13/2010 4:58:27 AM | message detail |
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/13/2010 4:58:32 AM | message detail |
I think creativename's site is down. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
-Tofa7- | Posted 12/13/2010 5:55:14 AM | message detail |
Regarding Majora's Mask vs G/S/C: MM had a good chance to win the match. Although people are picking sides and sticking to that side strongly and loudly predicting victory, it was always going to be a close match. Personally, my money was on Majora's Mask, the game got a number one seed, it will get a small bit of proxy power from the absence of Ocarina of Time (which the #1 seed proves), and it's Zelda. Pokemon has been overrated by this board ever since the last contest, and although R/B/Y does have legit strength now, I think G/S/C will be a couple of steps below. In any case, this WAS going to be a close match. Unfortunately, due to the horrendously biased and horrible match pic, Majora's Mask no longer stands a chance. You can barely tell its a Zelda game at all. There is no Link in the picture. The art itself kind of sucks. Add to that the fact that it's a night match and Europe/Asia will have ridiculously one sided trends favoring Pokemon, and G/S/C won't look in danger at any point and will break 55% --- Tofa7 - LoZ-LoD | Hardcore "Thank you, thank you, no applause necessary, just send money..." |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 5:58:31 AM | message detail |
Oh s***, MM > G/S/C is TONIGHT!? oh god oh man oh god oh man. And please stop overrating the pic factor. If you weren't gonna vote for Majora's Mask, a picture of Link wasn't gonna push you back over the edge. --- "if only there were some way I could have sex" - Smartmuffin |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 5:59:33 AM | message detail |
I'm pretty sure "OMFG LINK" is enough to change at least a good couple hundred minds when it comes to Zelda fans, KoolAid. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer See You Space Cowboy |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 6:00:34 AM | message detail |
Like that is literally the thought process I can see going on there. Current picture: "Eh skull kid, MM wasn't as good as OoT. I think I'll go with Pokemon here." Picture that has Link with sword/shield: "OMFG LINK" --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer See You Space Cowboy |
creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 6:09:55 AM | message detail |
Yeah, server messing up no idea why, contacted support. From: ESY16 | #2252 4-ways aren't even good at predicting 4-ways! With all the LFF flying around, different matchups have different dynamics. You can't use the 4-way result of a match with both for instance Ocarina and Melee in it to say anything about Melee in other 4-way matches. MM vs. GSC will be much closer than that 4-way match implies in any case. If you just looked at that match and took into account the Pokemon LFF, GSC should walk over MM in a complete slaughter 1v1. But, very few of us expect that to happen and predictions are actually fairly evenly split in the Oracle. No one really has much idea who's going to win this s***. ...hmm my first use of this new censor policy...I feel naughty :P From: -Tofa7- | #2257 Haha, yes, my logic is the same for picking GSC in my Oracle and battle. The match is so close and these are the only things we know are stacked towards one side or the other. If this was a day match and Link (especially Fierce Deity Link) was in the picture, I'm pretty sure I'd pick MM. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 6:13:39 AM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #2260 Nailed it haha. This site still loves Link, minor anti-votes last contest aside. It probably shouldn't be much of a factor, but it's one of the few factors we actually have in an otherwise toss-up match. I really would feel more comfortable if that was Link in there. Harder to see "Link!! oh ho Majora's Mask such nostalgia" losing to Pokemon, than it is to see "Skullkid dancing, **** that time travel bull, what an inferior game to Ocarina blargh" losing to Pokemon. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 6:24:20 AM | message detail |
If
either competitor wins by over 52%, please don't bring up "waaaaah
should've had a picture of Link waaaah" crybaby bull****, that's all
I'm saying. --- Around here, I'm the father, the son, and the Holy ****ing Spirit all rolled into one - Red Crow |
creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 6:30:13 AM | message detail |
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vegita4life | Posted 12/13/2010 6:30:35 AM | message detail |
More
like "lol pokemon" will be the reason MM wins. Zelda get much more
respect from the casual gamer. No way MM gets less than 52% and will
probably get >=54% --- This song is just six words long |
creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 6:31:15 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #2303 So what you're saying is, if GSC wins by less than 52%, you fully endorse and approve "Waaah waah no Link" whining? Good to know! :o) Not to mention night match whining and the popular "Pffft, GSC is a fraud, MM would've won a day match with an FDL pic!" --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename | Posted 12/13/2010 6:35:43 AM | message detail |
Darn typos. Anyway, I could see this match with GSC close to 55%, MM with 53%, back and forth early with trend swings overnight...lots of stuff could happen, very unpredictable match. It mattesr too, because if GSC puts a big number up it becomes the fave against WW...but if it barely scrapes by, WW/GSC becomes hard to call. I wonder how strong of a Power Hour GSC can have against a Zelda game. Might not be much of an edge for GSC. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 7:27:05 AM | message detail |
Man,
guys, pics don't matter for games unless it's extremely bad or good one
way or another. This isn't like characters where people will vote
entirely based on design or cool factor. People already know how
they're going to vote for games - pics aren't going to change that. --- DFF |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 7:33:11 AM | message detail |
You
guys act like we put 8-bit Solid S*** up there against Pokemon. Its
Majora's Mask, it's Zelda, either you're gonna vote for it, or you're
not. If your whole argument is based around "MM could win if it had
Link in the picture", please find another argument because it sucks ass. --- "if only there were some way I could have sex" - Smartmuffin |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 7:34:05 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #458 You underestimate how in a trance Zelda fans are. These people are actually looking forward to Skyward Sword and thought the DS games were good. --- ,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·. " 'Competeny' doesn't show up on Dictionary.com." -Anagram |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 7:35:47 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #469 Dude. Fierce Deity Link is badass. Full stop. Skull kid? Not badass. Ask a guy with 0 investment in either game which one to vote for and odds are the cool pokeymanz get the vote. Now compare cool pokeymanz with a literally godly link and chances are that casual voter who hasn't played either game votes Zelda. That's the gist of the argument. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 7:37:23 AM | message detail |
In
that case, MM should win because its flat-out stronger, and not because
Zelda fans must see a picture of Link before they vote for the game.
They've played MM. They know Link is in the game. They don't need a
picture to remind them of that. --- "if only there were some way I could have sex" - Smartmuffin |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 7:39:05 AM | message detail |
Yeah,
that doesn't matter at all. People know Skull Kid. People like Skull
Kid. Skull Kid is a far more important and iconic part of the game.
Complaining about Skull Kid being in a pic is like complaining about a
black person being on the pic for San Andreas. Just what do you think the game is actually about? If it was Tingle, you'd have a point. This is just silly. --- DFF |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 7:39:06 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #472 But this isn't about Zelda fans. It's about the people who could care less about either game because they haven't played them. That's the contingent pics reach out to in this case. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 7:40:40 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #473People like Skull Kid. This is the most bizarre thing I've heard in the last month? LIKE HIM? He's not hated, but uhh...who likes him? I've seriously never seen any praise or hate for Skull Kid. Majora's Mask is a different story, but Skull Kid gets exactly the love of third-tier villain gets. >_> --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/13/2010 7:41:28 AM | message detail |
From: KanzarisKelshen | #472 And how large of a % are the jackasses who go "derp wats this oh its Liiiiink so cool must vote". 1%, maybe? If this match isn't close, I think we can all do without the "zomg FDL should've been up there this s*** is rigged" stats topic hyperbole. --- "if only there were some way I could have sex" - Smartmuffin |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 7:42:49 AM | message detail |
Soccer talk in a stats topic? Get the flopping out of that sport and replay in if you want it to be considered legitimate. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· "I trust the FDA." - Calvinball |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 7:43:32 AM | message detail |
I'm
not even sure why people are targeting the MM pic alone. GSC pic is
about the same. Ulti's pic looks great, but there is never a case where
anime>sprites when it comes to Pokemon pics. Are you saying it's unfair that MM doesn't have a pic advantage? --- DFF |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 7:43:39 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #476 Oh, naturally. If GSC gets an ulti-style blowout on MM you won't see me complaining about the pic being the reason for it. If it's actually close and MM loses, though, it'll be because the pic is absolute crap (pending trends, of course). --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 7:44:27 AM | message detail |
From: KanzarisKelshen | #474 *raises hand* --- DFF |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 7:45:42 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #478 No. Sprites are ridiculously good for pokémon, but the GSC side of the pic still manages to look cool. MM simply doesn't. I mean, you COULD at least put Deku/Zora/Goron link in that pic for a very similar effect on both sides. Instead we get Dancing Skull Kid vs. Legendary Pokémon. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 7:46:59 AM | message detail |
I like MM's pic. It looks cool with the moon in the background, and it reminds me of the amazing atmosphere of the game. --- DFF |
JaKyL25 | Posted 12/13/2010 7:47:49 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #477 The soccer powers-that-be are even worse than BASEBALL when it comes to this. That's so staggeringly ridiculous. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 7:50:32 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #482 You also made the picture <_< From: KamikazePotato | #478 I don't know what you mean with taking those from anime. I just googled the legendary from each game <_< --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´ "We're only gonna score 17 points?" -LOL Tom Brady |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 7:51:07 AM | message detail |
From: JaKyL25 | #483 There's a reason I don't care about either sport much, though at least a soccer game can finish in under 5 hours. --- If I'm going to push you off a cliff anyways, it would be more interesting to lure you to a higher place first. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/13/2010 7:52:20 AM | message detail |
You also made the picture <_< I made the picture because I liked it! There's a correlation there! Either way, it's just not a bad picture whatsoever. You really can't say that unless you're one of those people who overreacts horribly to everything. I don't know what you mean with taking those from anime. I just googled the legendary from each game <_< The anime look, I meant. --- DFF |
Glenn_and_Toad | Posted 12/13/2010 7:52:33 AM | message detail |
From Kinsho: Not to be mean, but it's hard to take someone's arguments seriously with a bracket like that. I'd still respect that person's arguments if he wasn't being so confrontational, though... exactly. Also, my two cents on the pic factor-it doesn't matter for big-name entrants. You can claim Solid **** or whatnot, but if you go back and look at Snake's results, every time he underperformed in a sprite match it turned out that his opponent was just better than everyone thought after all (it helped that in two of the first three years he got to face Knuckles-level and below opponents until actually having to face some decent competition in round 3.) To me, it makes just as much sense as DAT TOP OPTION-if you've heard of both of em, you're not going to let anything else influence you (except possibly the score, but that's a topic for another time). Once you get to people like Kefka, being a bit more unknown, it has a slightly larger pic effect, but it still seems like it should only affect matches in which some voters haven't heard of both entrants. For what it's worth, I do believe that a John Madden picture helped Madden NFL overperform by 2-3% on Super Mario Bros in the series contest, but pic factor is generally limited to stuff like that. So for something like Pokemon an Zelda, where everyone in the entire games world has heard of them, the picture shouldn't matter too much. Pokemon's not gonna roll because of the pic, it's gonna roll for great reasons NGirl, Extha, and others mentioned. --- on 4ways: right now they have inherent flaws, but could be easily fixed by implementing approval voting! ~ToadYoshi 1. SoAL 2. MKW/64 3. FE7 4. TF2 5. FFCC |
JaKyL25 | Posted 12/13/2010 7:52:39 AM | message detail |
I
refuse to spend another dollar on a baseball game until they add
replay, but I still love the game itself, even if it takes 5 hours
<_< --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/13/2010 7:55:07 AM | message detail |
I don't. Too lazy to look it up, but Bill Simmons wrote an outstanding column about how long baseball games have gotten and how stupid baseball is for not doing anything to fix it. --- "Do you have ANY idea how low my self-esteem is?" -Dark Young Link |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/13/2010 7:57:01 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #477 You've got voltch, myself and ngirl as regulars. Football discussion can happen anytime, anywhere! --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer See You Space Cowboy |
JaKyL25 | Posted 12/13/2010 7:58:04 AM | message detail |
To
be honest, the NFL's replay system is garbage too, but at least they
actually have SOMETHING substantial there, even if it's unfairly
limited. The NHL, NBA, and NCAA Football have gotten the system right. There is no reason why the NFL and MLB can't follow suit. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 7:58:16 AM | message detail |
Match CX: (3) Metal Gear Solid 4 vs. (2) Shadow of the Colossus Last Round Metal Gear Solid 4 – 54.88% Diablo II – 45.12% Metal Gear Solid 2 – 49.96% Shadow of the Colossus – 50.04% Analysis Well most of us expected Metal Gear Solid 2 to be in this match yet Shadow of the Colossus was able to upset it. At least we’ll get a non-SFF match between the two Metal Gear Solid games since Shadow of the Colossus is basically equal to Metal Gear Solid 2. Some people are trying to make a match out of this, but I doubt most people would take Metal Gear Solid 4 over Metal Gear Solid 2 even after what happened with Diablo II last round. It’s pretty clear that the Metal Gear Solid games and Metal Gear Solid 4 especially are not the same games that we saw last year. You can blame it on it no longer being the only diamond on the Playstation 3 or the fact the game is just starting to settle, but using last year’s stats to argue this match is just begging for your prediction percent to tank. I guess the real question is whether or not Shadow of the Colossus could get 55% on Diablo II. In my opinion a match between the two would be close assuming Shadow of the Colossus is not any stronger than what we saw last year. Both Metal Gear Solid 2 and Diablo II had a similar opponent in Final Fantasy X and Metal Gear Solid 2 did perform clearly better. Back in round 1 I took the results from last year and the performance of a few games from the vote-ins and based on what Metal Gear Solid 4 got on Assassin’s Creed it was going to get something like 55% on Diablo II and lose to Metal Gear Solid 2. Well one part of that happened last round and I know I was just playing around with stats, but I’ll just say that if Metal Gear Solid 4 does end up choking and losing to Shadow of the Colossus it wasn’t exactly coming out of left field. charmander6000’s Bracket: Metal Gear Solid 4 > Metal Gear Solid 2 charmander6000’s Prediction: Metal Gear Solid 4 wins, 53.46% - 46.54% --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 7:58:48 AM | message detail |
That
reminds me, I never actually got around to thanking you for posting a
link to one of Simmons' columns waaaaaaaaaay back when Ulti. I've got
that stuff bookmarked now, good sports columns are a rarity. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/13/2010 7:59:23 AM | message detail |
Paper Mario just took the lead in Canada, a day match or even a 24 hour match would not have been kind to MGS3. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 156/172 Today's Matches: MGS3 & MGS4 |
Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/13/2010 8:06:04 AM | message detail |
I've got a really bad feeling about the upcoming match. MGS4 is definitely stronger than MGS2, and should thus easily win, but I can't shake the feeling something weird's gonna happen. --- A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII http://i25.tinypic.com/2cp5chf.jpg |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/13/2010 8:15:36 AM | message detail |
A bad feeling? Something you ate? --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
JaKyL25 | Posted 12/13/2010 8:18:04 AM | message detail |
Nanomachines vs. Colossi The modern-day David vs. Goliath. --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. http://i.neoseeker.com/n/2/nintendo_quality_seal.jpg |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/13/2010 8:20:06 AM | message detail |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/13/2010 12:02:39 AM | message detail | delete | filter | quote | #324 57-43 after 12 hours book it not too bad --- Oracle contest - 15th Today's pick: MGS3 - 57.21% Status: |
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/13/2010 8:20:10 AM | message detail |
Nanomachines vs. Camo Paint you mean, 'cause MGS4 ain't stopping until it's dispatched MGS3. --- Placeholder anti-capslock sig. |
Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/13/2010 8:20:37 AM | message detail |
Play Okami --- A pro isn't someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That's just a fool. - Reno, FFVII http://i25.tinypic.com/2cp5chf.jpg |
