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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 973
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 11:28:13 AM | message detail |
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/11/2010 11:32:30 AM | message detail |
Kevin Sullivan, for one. --- I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:34:26 AM | message detail |
*headbutts Revan* --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/11/2010 12:07:34 PM | message detail |
So if MM beats Pokemon can we say Pic advantage are meaningless? I have a feling MM will win --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2dgnzhz.png |
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/11/2010 12:10:57 PM | message detail |
From: Assassin_Thane | #004 Nope. Look at Snake vs Bowser and to prove it I submited a pic with Snake from the NES game last contest, w hich always made him lose to Pikachu, --- How would a Kirby that has eaten me look like? (Made by KG) http://i1000.photobucket.com/albums/af128/kirbys_gal11/ctesjbuvf.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 12:32:46 PM | message detail |
55/45 =/= Almost lose He just struggled for 30 minutes. Snake is technically undefeated when he has his sprite. --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 10:05:59 PM | message detail |
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4510/meleevsbrawl3.png I hope this fits the standard Lord Almighty Transience was hoping for. --- ~*Winner of two Vlado Awards for Posting Excellence*~ |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:14:26 PM | message detail |
From: Assassin_Thane | #004 Only if that means that if Pokemon wins we can say pic is 100% of the issue. |
BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/11/2010 11:24:21 PM | message detail |
Ugh, one of the 8 151s not on the leaderboard and I have ME tomorrow. Feels bad man --- http://i49.tinypic.com/2ry672r.jpg |
kinsho3 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:34:38 PM | message detail |
From: creativename # I understand what you're suggesting. But if Missingno of all characters couldn't get a bandwagon against one of the most polarizing characters of that contest, I doubt RE4 can catch a bandwagon against FFX. RE4 has to be legitimately stronger than FFX to win that match. And yeah, Seph would have finished with a higher percentage in a 24-hour match. So would FFX if it had the opportunity to face RE4 in a 24-hour match. However, FFX is better off with a night match here versus a day match. Not only can it draw votes overnight thanks to brand power, but it's also more likely to initiate a comeback, especially during the dead hours. --- It takes a genius to make something simple truly great. Dr. Football, you are the man! I'll take you down next contest though... |
creativename | Posted 12/11/2010 11:37:18 PM | message detail |
LS He's trying to say that FFX is doing a good job at bringing in the votes too. With higher vote totals, it's harder to hold off a comeback. Besides FFX, the Zelda games and KH games are also doing good at bringing in votes. I can't say that I see this as meaningful since the vote total difference between games is pretty marginal. In any case it doesn't change the relative nature of things, FFX would have higher vote totals in day matches than normal entrants as well, as Hochi said. A night match probably remains RE4's best chance at pulling some random crap out of its ass. From: LeonhartFour | #006 Inarguable logic. Beware Solid ****, invincible. Literally craps all over his opponents, they stand no chance. From: UltimaterializerX | #007 Very cool pic. No Link for either though? Wouldn't be fair if one has Link and the other doesn't, but both having Link would be coolest. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename | Posted 12/11/2010 11:45:15 PM | message detail |
From: kinsho3 | #010 Missingno *did* get a bandwagon. It just wasn't enough because Seph was too far above his level. History will probably repeat itself with RE4/FFX, but RE has a chance. And I doubt RE4 is legitimately stronger than FFX. That doesn't mean it can't win. It for sure has a better shot at winning a 12 hour night match as opposed to a 24 hour match - which means it doesn't need to be legit stronger. It will overperform here relative to its "legit strength" even if it loses. However, FFX is better off with a night match here versus a day match. Not only can it draw votes overnight thanks to brand power, but it's also more likely to initiate a comeback, especially during the dead hours. I'm not sure this is true. It's probably close. But a night match is probably better for FFX just based on the trends we've seen. If you look at the charts for both games, FFX never stops rising, RE4 falls off. FFX does fine when the sun comes up, rising or stalling. This hardly indicates to me that a day match is favorable for RE4. I don't think FFX has a great day vote, it's ASV is probably mediocre at best. But RE4 ain't Zelda or something, this is not a great day game. Also you talk about it having the dead hours to come back, you neglect the fact that in a day match it would probably never trail in the first place. Or if it did it would be by very little. RE4 would never build up a significant lead in a day match. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:48:48 PM | message detail |
Thinking
about it now, we could have done with starting the contest two days
earlier and having 24 hour matches all through the finals. It's a more
sensible point to change the format ("the division champions will now
battle it out over 24 hours!"), IMO. --- I predict and analyse the Game of the Decade contest here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/56817040 |
SuperAngelo128 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:49:20 PM | message detail |
well it''s not happening so there's nothing we can do --- ~ Ange no heroickrauss bullying topic i see. feels wrong, board viewing experience feels lesser |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 11:52:41 PM | message detail |
The whole point was not having Link/Mario/Samus/Kirby versus Link/Mario/Samus/Kirby. I'll make others though, no worries. --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4914979539_7515897526_b.jpg |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/12/2010 12:00:26 AM | message detail |
The whole point was not having Link/Mario/Samus/Kirby versus Link/Mario/Samus/Kirby. I'll make others though, no worries. That might not look too bad if you actually did a Link/Mario/Samus/Kirby versus Link/Mario/Samus/Kirby picture. --- "Let me believe what you've always believed! That living is wonderful!" "Thank you so much... Thank you for loving me." |
kinsho3 | Posted 12/12/2010 12:10:13 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #012 Looking at the match updates for Seph/Missingno, it looks like Missingno did get some bandwagon support. Still, the bandwagon was only enough to keep the glitch in contention only for four hours. I'm beginning to doubt the power of bandwagons now. I just don't see RE4 riding a bandwagon to victory here. I do think RE4 will overperform as well thanks to the power hour. But I think the overperformance will only be marginal when all is said and done, given FFX's tendency to rise through the night and into the morning. I'm not sure
this is true. It's probably close. But a night match is probably better
for FFX just based on the trends we've seen. If you look at the charts
for both games, FFX never stops rising, RE4 falls off. FFX does fine
when the sun comes up, rising or stalling. This hardly indicates to me
that a day match is favorable for RE4. I don't think FFX has a great
day vote, it's ASV is probably mediocre at best. But RE4 ain't Zelda or
something, this is not a great day game. I agree, in a day match, I don't think FFX would ever really end up trailing behind RE4. Still, in the event that it finds itself behind RE4 early into the match, I don't see it coming back during the day. Neither game has a great ASV, so I think the ASV will only end up extending the forerunner's lead. The SNV is there to help out FFX, but it can only help to a limited extent. --- It takes a genius to make something simple truly great. Dr. Football, you are the man! I'll take you down next contest though... |
creativename | Posted 12/12/2010 12:14:22 AM | message detail |
I'd
like 24 hour matches from round 3 on. That would only have made the
contest an extra two weeks long. Or from round 4 on - that's only an
extra 6 days, which is nothing, yet would add a lot to the prestige of
the matches. I really don't get why only the last 3 matches are 24 hours. At the bare minimum we should've seen the quarters as 24 hours, which as you said would be a measly 2 extra days. Allen dropped the ball on this one. I'd like for all contests to be 12 hour matches until round 3 or 4. The early rounds either have mismatches, or close matches between fodder games which aren't really that important long-term. No need to bother with 24 hour matches there, waste of time. By round 3 or round 4, you have legit entrants, and matches where the day/night difference might change the winner - and it actually matters because the winner can win in future rounds. From: UltimaterializerX | #055 Except this would rule the earth. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Hochimihnister | Posted 12/12/2010 12:16:14 AM | message detail |
If
anything, FFX/RE4 will follow Cloud/Samus trends. Although I expect FFX
to win by more - RE4 hasn't impressed all contest, especially right now |
creativename | Posted 12/12/2010 12:20:17 AM | message detail |
From: Team Rocket Elite | #056 Give the people what they want! :) Actually get rid of Kirby. Replace him with Pikachu or something (maybe Bowser or Ganon or Zelda). Or maybe Link/Mario/Samus/[Pikachu or one of the others] vs. Link/Mario/Samus/Solid Snake? That would be best IMO (although I suppose you could argue that's a bit biased towards Brawl with Snake in there, but it'd be the most classic pic possible). --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/12/2010 12:26:08 AM | message detail |
From: creativename | #018 I don't really know that 24 hour matches before the quarter finals is really necessary. I think you could probably count the number of games on one hand that would have come back to win in a 24 hour match, pre-quarters. |
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/12/2010 12:31:58 AM | message detail |
I'd
like 24 hour matches from round 3 on. That would only have made the
contest an extra two weeks long. Or from round 4 on - that's only an
extra 6 days, which is nothing, yet would add a lot to the prestige of
the matches. With the current format, the contest is 65 days long. I would like to see it changed so the quarterfinals are 24 hours long, which would extend the contest to 67 days long. A 67 day long contest is fine by me, because the 2006 Character Battle was 68 days long because of the Battle Royale. If the 24 hour matches were started in round 4, that would be a 71 day contest. Starting the 24 hour matches in the quarterfinals isn't possible, because the contest would run past Christmas (the final match is scheduled for December 23rd) and Allen wants to stick to the following schedule for the Poll of the Day: December 24th - What did you think of the Game of the Decade? (or similarly worded poll) December 25th - What did you get for Christmas (or another December holiday)? December 26th to 31st - "Got Console?" polls, stuff like "Got Xbox 360?" and "Got Wii?". Running these "Got Console?" polls after Christmas has been a yearly tradition for the past several years. Starting January 1st - Game of the Year polls for the 2010 games --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as Dr_Football, Guru Champ! |
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/12/2010 12:46:16 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #015 ULTI Make it like, Link/Mario/Samus/Fox for Melee vs. Lucario/Luigi/Ice Climbers/ someone else obscure. --- "I would totally audition to be Extha's best friend" - Mer See You Space Cowboy |
transience | Posted 12/12/2010 1:46:08 AM | message detail |
yeesh,
this match makes me feel bad for being excited about the DR/Persona
4/TWEWY fourpack. GTA would beat it soundly. this is a night match too
for Persona. --- xyzzy |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/12/2010 1:53:13 AM | message detail |
That fourpack is lucky Persona made it. Dead Rising would be getting killed so hard right now. |
Xcarvenger | Posted 12/12/2010 3:56:35 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4175®ion=USXWY excellent --- Clannad love! www.board8.wikia.com |
shane15 | Posted 12/12/2010 4:18:00 AM | message detail |
*Salutes Persona 4* It's got about as far as it's ever gonna get in these contests.Pretty big feat considering what crap normally makes it this far.Still going down to the legendary Resi 4 is always an honour --- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Shaneh87/Haruhi/Kyonexplanation.jpg |
695924 | Posted 12/12/2010 6:48:51 AM | message detail |
If
P4 is stronger than P3, it would probably only be stronger by less than
500 votes. So right now RE4 is only doing slightly better than FFIX. --- lol opinions |
transcience | Posted 12/12/2010 6:51:17 AM | message detail |
there's overlap involved in P3/FF9 too. Persona is just a bad barometer in general. wait for Portal. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Biolizard28 | Posted 12/12/2010 6:52:33 AM | message detail |
From: transcience | #029 I can pretty much guarantee that anyone who wanted to vote Persona 3 in that match did. No overlap there. --- I like how each new topic you make reveals such varied facets of your idiocy. - foolmo Now this is entertainment! |
transcience | Posted 12/12/2010 6:56:00 AM | message detail |
I must be the exception then. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
695924 | Posted 12/12/2010 6:57:17 AM | message detail |
From: Biolizard28 | #030 Pretty much this. --- lol opinions |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2010 7:06:07 AM | message detail |
Anyone
that at this point looks at the trends charts of FFX and RE4 so far
this contest, and thinks that the night match is an clear advantage for
FFX, is delusional. I'm sorry but there's no other way to put it, what
exactly is people's reasoning? The evidence is pretty damn blatant. And you seem to keep forgetting that the people that anti-voted FFX during the first hour are most likely to vote in a day match too meaning FFX would still get its anti-votes and it won't have the night to rebound. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 148/164 Today's Matches: RE4 & Portal |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/12/2010 7:25:19 AM | message detail |
From: ExThaNemesis | #023 You mean...something like this? http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/albums/bse2k6/bse27.jpg --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/12/2010 7:51:02 AM | message detail |
Does
Mass Effect actually has a change?And I imagine if Portal wins the
prediction percentage would be abysmall since a lot of people will have
FF XII advancing(because it is a main FF game)or Mass Effect(because it
is a 2 seed). --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2010 7:58:05 AM | message detail |
Match CVIII: (3) Portal vs. (2) Mass Effect Last Round Portal – 59.98% Final Fantasy XII – 40.02% Skies of Arcadia – 37.80% Mass Effect – 62.20% Analysis I was kind of hoping that last round really showed that Mass Effect does not have strength, but it does seem a few people are still confusing it with Mass Effect 2. Barely getting 62% on Skies of Arcadia is not a good result, especially when Portal went a ripped Final Fantasy XII a new hole by just failing to break 60%. I guess the main question is whether or not Portal’s win was from it getting stronger or Final Fantasy XII getting weaker. In my opinion it was a combination of the two. With two million downloads from the free Steam giveaway it was likely that Portal would have gotten stronger this contest and it was the main reason why most of the board felt confident in it winning despite Final Fantasy XII technically finishing ahead of the game in the stats. I also feel that Final Fantasy XII is weaker this contest with it not doing much against Crisis Core and considering that only getting 40% against Portal would suggest that the game would have a chance against Resident Evil 4 next round. Mass Effect’s performance was terrible; remember Wind Waker was almost able to triple the game back in 2004 and that was when Wind Waker was hated and that the Dreamcast was relevant. Just take a look what Twilight Princess did to Shenmue in the first round and many of us feel that those two games would be close against each other. Mass Effect 2 did help the game become stronger; it just wasn’t by as much as some people thought. While Portal isn’t Twilight Princess I feel that the game will have an easier time against Mass Effect than it did against Final Fantasy XII. Portal has legit strength and could have caused a lot of damage if it was placed in one of the first two divisions while Mass Effect doesn’t seem to be much better than what we saw from the last contest charmander6000’s Bracket: Portal > Mass Effect charmander6000’s Prediction: Portal wins, 63.35% - 36.65% --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 148/164 Today's Matches: RE4 & Portal |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/12/2010 7:58:32 AM | message detail |
From: 695924 | #028 a lot more than 500. Also watch FFIX get over 45% on FFX. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2dgnzhz.png |
Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/12/2010 8:01:55 AM | message detail |
ULTI Make it like, Link/Mario/Samus/Fox for Melee vs. Lucario/Luigi/Ice Climbers/ someone else obscure. How about Mario/Samus/Kirby/Fox vs. Sonic/ZSS/Meta Knight/Wolf? Kind of a rivals dealy with Brawls newcomers. --- See You Space Cowboy... |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/12/2010 8:02:47 AM | message detail |
Doing
Melee newcomers vs. Brawl newcomers would be good, although probably a
bit skewed toward Brawl since it has Snake and Sonic. --- "But you have been given freedom. Freedom to be...outside." "I am lightning...the rain transformed." |
creativename | Posted 12/12/2010 8:13:37 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #153 Far from forgetting it, *I* have always been the one pointing this type of thing to people. This is why I said Metroid day match was probably a slight bit stronger than Metroid night, since it would be slightly stronger than it normally is in the day portion of a 24 hour match. In a day match though with higher vote totals these are diluted. Also they don't all come back once or in systematic fashion - there's no real Power Hour, which means no momentum would be built up or anything. The odds of "wonkiness" lower drastically because that early surge of support won't be there, reducing the motivation of bandwagoner types, and also the higher vote totals make the bandwagon have less influence even if it was equally sized. And very importantly - RE4 is no great day game. Again, anyone who is under the false impression that FFX is likely to benefit from it being a night match, is simply wrong and all the evidence points to this. It's just obvious stuff that people are missing for whatever pre-conceived notions they're stuck with. I remember this same argument for Cloud/Samus - people were claiming Cloud was lucky to get her in a night match, when I was telling people that Samus was the lucky one and a day match would've been better for him. Now it seems like people finally accept that 12 hour night matches are not good for Cloud. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/12/2010 8:48:35 AM | message detail |
~10 minutes to DAT PORTAL VOTE. --- "I skate when I want to!" -Benjamin Franklin (http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=264) |
HaRRicH | Posted 12/12/2010 8:50:04 AM | message detail |
Portal
kicking ass with probably the only picture I'll have accepted this
contest against one of the most over-rated games this contest
(strength-wise, not quality-wise) in T-minus ten minutes...yay. --- Love Epona. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2010 8:57:02 AM | message detail |
Just
because we don't see it all at once doesn't mean they aren't there. The
anti-voters will be spread out through the day just like the ones that
come on the site after the power hour. Anyone outside of this board is not going to rally for RE4 if it comes out to a 53% start against FFX in a night match. They don't know trends and assume RE4 is going to win a close, but with a sizable gap. Any rallying that will come will come once RE4 is at 50% since then the average voter will see that it's anyone's game. If RE4 was going to win the match it will have to start at around 50% so rallying will start then. The game will have more hours, a weaker FFX comeback (since FFX isn't recovering from a bad power hour since there wasn't much of one) and more people to rally from since North America will be awake then. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 148/164 Today's Matches: RE4 & Portal |
vcharon | Posted 12/12/2010 8:59:09 AM | message detail |
Need to get this out of the way before the slaughter: Portal is so freaking overrated. Rigged VGAs even gave Portal 2 the most "anticipated award". Mass Effect deserves better here. --- :> |
Master Moltar | Posted 12/12/2010 9:00:11 AM | message detail |
Portal 76.92% 10 Mass Effect 23.08% 3 TOTAL VOTES 13 --- Moltar Status: 148 Points - Vote: RE4 Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/12/2010 9:00:18 AM | message detail |
Portal 73.33% 11 Mass Effect 26.67% 4 TOTAL VOTES 15 woooo ME |
ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/12/2010 9:00:20 AM | message detail |
Portal 81.82% 9 Mass Effect 18.18% 2 TOTAL VOTES 11 --- Who you gonna root for? Who's it gonna be? Is it Brawl, Final Fantasy or will you pick Melee? |
melikepizza | Posted 12/12/2010 9:00:26 AM | message detail |
Vote Accepted Portal 77.78% 21 Mass Effect 22.22% 6 TOTAL VOTES 27 --- Gamertag - XxBradKennedyxX Has stopped playing irl for this format! |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/12/2010 9:00:34 AM | message detail |
Portal 76.92% 10 Mass Effect 23.08% 3 TOTAL VOTES 13 Why doesn't Portal have 100%? --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 148/164 Today's Matches: RE4 & Portal |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/12/2010 9:00:38 AM | message detail |
Vote Accepted Portal 74.24% 49 Mass Effect 25.76% 17 TOTAL VOTES 66 Should we start worrying about RE4 now? --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |