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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 972
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/11/2010 10:49:29 AM | message detail |
FFX and Golden Sun have virtually nothing in common other than being RPGs They came out within a month of each other! Same time of year SFF. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 10:49:34 AM | message detail |
You don't have to buy 'multiple consoles'. Everyone owned a GBA. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:50:05 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #350 You can argue anything popular has "at least a little bit of overlap." The question is whether or not it's disproportionate overlap. --- Support Squirtle (Pokemon R/B/Y) for Character Battle IX! http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8463/banner2squirtle.jpg |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/11/2010 10:50:07 AM | message detail |
FFX/Shadow Hearts for the ultimate example of Same Time of the Year SFF --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:50:37 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #354 Yes, but if FFX wins with 90%, is it really SFF? --- "The great GF...Bahamut." "...GF? I...? Using my powers...It is you humans...I fear..." |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/11/2010 10:51:27 AM | message detail |
Same Time of the Year/RPG SFF, of course it is Leon! Shadow Hearts, secret beast. --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/11/2010 10:51:45 AM | message detail |
SFF? Are some people forgetting how it couldn't even double FFTA? --- Dr Football and Snake have won this round, but Sephiroth will rise again! |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 10:52:07 AM | message detail |
And it is, because they're both RPGs and almost certainly share a decent number of fans you play a lot of RPGs. This isn't anything major or rocket sciency. This is "Hey, maybe what is probably the most popular JRPG on the site overperformed by a percent or two on another JRPG." --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:52:16 AM | message detail |
From: TheKoolAidShoto | #356 "Secret" being the big key word there! darn you gamefaqs for not recognizing the greatness of yuri hyuga --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:53:53 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #358 Yes, but you're the only person who seems to think 65% on Golden Sun isn't a normal performance. There's really nothing wrong with it whatsoever. San Andreas and all things GTA are bad. FFX would double them all. This isn't rocket science. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/11/2010 10:54:11 AM | message detail |
What if Golden Sun actually rSFFd FFX! --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/11/2010 10:54:52 AM | message detail |
I think setting VC=SA and increasing Golden Sun's % still gives FFX a comfortable win. Just not a 54% win. 50.94% isn't exactly comfortable. That's assuming GS underperformed by 2 percentage points. --- "Let me believe what you've always believed! That living is wonderful!" "Thank you so much... Thank you for loving me." |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:55:52 AM | message detail |
This
is coming from a person who for days argued that there was no PS2 LFF
(not even SFF) between GoW/SA, yet here you are arguing for disproportional liking (not LFF) between 2 games on different consoles because they share the same genre. There could be LFF, but we don't see that in a 1v1. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:56:00 AM | message detail |
From: The Mana Sword | #361 Due to the Power Hour, this may be valid...! I somewhat like the way you think! --- http://i.imgur.com/CbfFb.jpg |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 10:56:07 AM | message detail |
So GTA3 being a little under God of War and Tales of Symphonia is bad too? You can say blanket statements like 'they're bad', but outside of GTA4 they've looked mostly normal. --- DFF |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/11/2010 10:56:37 AM | message detail |
Yuri Hyuga probably gets 80% put on him by Tifa Lockheart. Think about that when you start to compliment GameFAQs' taste. --- Around here, I'm the father, the son, and the Holy ****ing Spirit all rolled into one - Red Crow |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 10:57:17 AM | message detail |
Genre overlap matters way more than system overlap. In fact, the GTA3/GoW/ToS rankings basically completely disproved that there was any system overlap going on there. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:58:18 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #365 Yes, but being bad for GTA is normal. And we're talking "bad" in relative terms, considering how strong GTA used to be and how strong it logically should be. But still, FFX would double GTA3, so again, not seeing the problem. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 10:59:12 AM | message detail |
Yeah, and the stats currently have FFX getting 68.12% on SA. That's a good bit more than a doubling. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 10:59:12 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #367 What examples of genre SFF do we even have? --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:59:43 AM | message detail |
Genre overlap matters way more than system overlap. Except GoW/SA are from the same genre and they both appeal to the same people who own a PS2. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:00:11 AM | message detail |
Except GoW/SA are from the same genre What. --- DFF |
TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/11/2010 11:00:38 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #371 um --- The 3DS will be $200 or I'm closing my account - Ngamer64 |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:00:45 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #369 It's not that big of a leap, really. Pretty negligible. Like 51/49 negligible. You could chalk that up to random variation based on any number of weird factors that aren't really prevalent or significant. --- Support Barret Wallace (Final Fantasy VII) for Character Battle IX! http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/3834/banner1barret.jpg |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:01:04 AM | message detail |
Except GoW/SA are from the same genre What. Both are Action Adventure games --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/11/2010 11:02:07 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #006 your reasoning for brawl/melee was crap from the start though. I don't believe for one second you actually think KH/KHII had an effect for Brawl/Melee. If you think KHII is preferred becuase it's "newer" then you must not have played both games. Brawl is going to need all the help it can get. I just cannot see a wii game win GOTD. --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2dgnzhz.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:02:19 AM | message detail |
Though really we're arguing 1-2%, we've seen characters change by more from year to year basis. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:02:44 AM | message detail |
Yeah
I don't really care that they're technically both Action Adventure
games. God of War is an action game. San Andreas is a sandbox FPS.
They're completely different games. --- DFF |
Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/11/2010 11:03:53 AM | message detail |
From: charmander6000 | #375 So GTA and Zelda are from the same genre. Since Zelda is Gow lite. No way is GTA and Gow same genre. GTA is almost 3rd person sandbox shooter. It's like catagorizing Tetris and portal in the same genre --- http://i52.tinypic.com/2dgnzhz.png |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:04:57 AM | message detail |
Yeah I don't really care that they're technically both Action Adventure games. God of War is an action game. San Andreas is a sandbox FPS. They're completely different games. lol, no it isn't. They may not be as similar as say most jRPGs, but they are similar enough for most people to place them in the same category. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:05:53 AM | message detail |
And
really, if the stats predict 68.12% for FFX against SA and it only does
get 66.67%, there's not going to be some large fanfare of "Whoa, I
guess FFX really did SFF Golden Sun!" because the difference is
negligible enough that we can just chalk it up to random variation
because we know the stats aren't perfect. But if Melee/Brawl was projected to be getting 68.12% on San Andreas, no one would even be balking at the idea! you people and your biases --- "I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:09:42 AM | message detail |
Yeah sorry char but that's basically insane. But if Melee/Brawl was projected to be getting 68.12% on San Andreas, no one would even be balking at the idea! Because Melee/Brawl is going to win the contest. FFX has much higher chance of losing to RE4 than it does of winning the contest. I say this as someone with FFX winning the contest in my bracket. --- DFF |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:11:34 AM | message detail |
On Melee/Brawl match what is the support of each game from the Gurus? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:12:19 AM | message detail |
From: KamikazePotato | #382 you people The strength difference between Melee/Brawl and FFX is low. Whoever wins that match isn't going to win by a wide margin. I'm not sure why anyone thinks differently. --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/11/2010 11:13:27 AM | message detail |
LOL FFIX's day vote KOTOR just made a cut --- Oracle contest - 16th Today's pick: FFIX - 54.37% Status: Great |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 11:13:30 AM | message detail |
KOTOR just cut. --- ·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9846/ultifinished.png |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:14:08 AM | message detail |
Aw yeah, FFIX, the FFVI of New Square --- "Why must we always choose between certain death and probable death?" "I'm in an epic battle to the death, FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF!" |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 11:14:24 AM | message detail |
From: GrapefruitKing | #385 But according to cn the FF games aren't stronger at night, you know. I mean it's not like we don't have insane amounts of evidence or anything. --- ¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·., The pain she feels when she drinks your soul is hers to suffer. |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:15:27 AM | message detail |
Yeah sorry char but that's basically insane. Is it really, if someone that loved God of War/San Andreas asked for another game to play you don't think the other game would be high on the suggested list? They both appeal to the same type of people and I'm beginning to think that you've never played either game. I'm not even arguing SFF like you are. All games have overlap, but to suggest FFX is disproportionally more liked than Golden Sun when we have nothing that says genre SFF even occurs is basically insane. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:15:32 AM | message detail |
From: UltimaterializerX | #388 Trends =/= Strength --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:15:52 AM | message detail |
Speaking
of games that are over/underperforming, FF9 has had three day matches
this year and it's final match is going to be up against FFX. Never gonna catch a break, is it? --- DFF |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:16:32 AM | message detail |
Is
it really, if someone that loved God of War/San Andreas asked for
another game to play you don't think the other game would be high on
the suggested list? *looks at God of War/ToS/GTA3* Apparently not. --- DFF |
Greyfeld | Posted 12/11/2010 11:16:51 AM | message detail |
Leon,
I know how you feel with all the anti-FFX bandwagoning that's been
going on lately, but if you're going to argue with anybody, it probably
shouldn't be KP. It's just going to give you a headache. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:17:12 AM | message detail |
FF7 I can believe might not be stronger at night. FFX not being stronger at night is crazy talk. --- DFF |
charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:19:57 AM | message detail |
*looks at God of War/ToS/GTA3* Apparently not. You'd think that would be the final nail in your FFX/GS coffin. --- BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls GotD Bracket: 140/158 Today's Matches: FFX & FFIX |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:20:51 AM | message detail |
Or
that thinking GoW and SA are so similar that they would have
none-negligible overlap is the talk of someone who has played neither
of them. --- DFF |
695924 | Posted 12/11/2010 11:21:57 AM | message detail |
Why
would FFX be stronger at night? The first hour is pretty bad for any
game that has huge antivotes like FFX. East Coast is asleep, and West
Coast is having dinner. Then for 6 hours the East Coast is asleep. --- lol opinions |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:21:59 AM | message detail |
Besides,
it wasn't a "FF isn't stronger at night" argument, it was a "FF in a
night match isn't significantly different than FF in a day match,"
which isn't really far from the truth because it doesn't have to deal
with a ridiculous Power Hour. Like I said, FFX averaged 66.40% after
that first hour, but it didn't finish that close to it because that
first hour was so rough. Overall, yes, FF is stronger at night in the
sense that it will be getting its highest percentage updates at that
time, but that first hour handicaps that advantage to a degree. FFIX would be an exception anyway though since it's the one FF game that doesn't suck with the board vote. --- Support Seifer Almasy (Final Fantasy VIII) for Character Battle IX! http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9342/banner3seifer.jpg |
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 11:22:32 AM | message detail |
Leon still defending his terrible FFX-to-win pick --- `·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.~*ST*~.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.·´¯`·.,¸¸,.· It's a Jersey thing. |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 11:25:04 AM | message detail |
Like
I said, FFX averaged 66.40% after that first hour, but it didn't finish
that close to it because that first hour was so rough. A 1% difference is rough? FF8 and 10 are *not* FF7. FF7 has the most disastrously bad power hour to ever exist. FF7 actually has a good day vote. FF8/10 have neither of those, and FF9 is just plain horrible in the day. --- DFF |
