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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/11/2010 6:24:13 PM | message detail

From: lightsout06 | #450
Will the announcement of ME3 have an effect on Portal vs ME


What the hell? Why on earth would it?
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 6:40:47 PM | message detail
Huh, FFIX has held up surprisingly well today. It's even started gaining back some percentage the last few hours. We're less than half a percent away from where we were after one hour. Well done, FFIX.

And honestly, I was of the opinion that this match made MGS4 look better, not worse. It'd beat FFIX and take care of KOTOR without much trouble. KOTOR and Halo aren't beating D2, I don't think. I still think FO3 would have a hard time dealing with MGS4, so I guess I'll be able to say more after FO3/Halo.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/11/2010 7:04:30 PM | message detail
We know that Halo > KOTOR and I'm assuming FF9 > FO3, so that means that Halo should get within the 46-48% range against FO3.

Okay, predict this division (and tell me how you think the matches will go as a bonus).

(1) Super Mario Galaxy
(16) Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock

(8) Final Fantasy XII
(9) Grand Theft Auto IV

(5) Golden Sun
(12) Devil May Cry

(4) Shadow of the Colossus
(13) Psychonauts

(3) BioShock
(14) Battlefield: 1942

(6) Diablo II
(11) Super Mario Sunshine

(7) Mother 3
(10) Civilization IV

(2) Half-Life 2
(15) The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/11/2010 7:53:20 PM | message detail
SMG
FF12

Golden Sun
SotC

Bioshock
D2

Civ4
HL2

SMG
SotC

D2
HL2

SotC
D2

D2
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Azp2k32 | Posted 12/11/2010 8:00:16 PM | message detail
(1) Super Mario Galaxy
(8) Final Fantasy XII

(5) Golden Sun
(4) Shadow of the Colossus

(3) BioShock
(6) Diablo II

(10) Civilization IV
(2) Half-Life 2


(1) Super Mario Galaxy
(4) Shadow of the Colossus

(6) Diablo II
(2) Half-Life 2

(1) Super Mario Galaxy
(2) Half-Life 2


(2) Half-Life 2



I feel like most of these are pretty simple, SMG vs. HL2 is my only real problem. Diablo 2 taking out HL2 is possible, but I choose to bet against it. I take what I feel might be a bit of an upset though in the final. An actual bracket decision would depend on how MP vs. HL2 goes, really.
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/11/2010 7:48:43 PM | message detail
So I've been doing some X-Stats, and WWF No Mercy is supposed to get around 2.68% on Brawl. I doubt I've been doing this thing right though...


Nope, you aren't doing it right. I don't blame you for not doing it right, because I didn't quite understand basic x-stats until red sox posted an example of how to calculate x-stats back in the discussion topic for the last GameSpot contest. But if you want to figure out what WWF No Mercy gets on Brawl, you'll need to do 2 calculations to figure that one out. First, you'll need to do this:

28.27 * 35.21 / 50 (to calculate what No Mercy gets on Pokemon DPP)

For the record, the 28.27 was No Mercy's percentage against Fire Emblem: PoR while the 35.21 is the percentage Fire Emblem: PoR got on Pokemon DPP. That calculation would give you a result of 19.90, which would be No Mercy's percentage against Pokemon DPP. You'll have to use that 19.90 in the next step.

Then you'll need this calculation to figure out what No Mercy gets on Brawl

19.90 * 27.10 / 50

As I said earlier, 19.90 was No Mercy's percentage on Fire Emblem: PoR while 27.10 is Pokemon DPP's percentage on Brawl. The result of the second calculation would be 10.79, after rounding up to second decimal place.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/11/2010 8:31:36 PM | message detail
So uhh.....

what does FFIX need to get next round for Fire Emblem > Golden Sun?
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/11/2010 8:37:38 PM | message detail
Around 46.50%
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/11/2010 8:37:56 PM | message detail
Well that's for them to be about equal so OVER that I should say
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2010 8:40:01 PM | message detail
what does FFIX need to get next round for Fire Emblem > Golden Sun?

Based on FFIX currently at 53.05% right now in this match, FFIX would need 46.45% on FFX next round for Fire Emblem > Golden Sun. Which isn't happening.
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Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/11/2010 8:53:53 PM | message detail
Wish Battlefield had a winnable match.

(1) Super Mario Galaxy
(8) Final Fantasy XII

(5) Golden Sun
(4) Shadow of the Colossus

(3) BioShock
(6) Diablo II

(10) Civilization IV
(2) Half-Life 2
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(1) Super Mario Galaxy
(5) Golden Sun

(3) BioShock
(2) Half-Life
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(3) BioShock
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Master Moltar | Posted 12/11/2010 9:00:14 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 44.44%

8
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 55.56%

10
TOTAL VOTES 18

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Articuno2001 | Posted 12/11/2010 9:00:33 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 42.11%

8
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 57.89%

11
TOTAL VOTES 19

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/11/2010 9:00:50 PM | message detail
at least P4 was leading when I voted
this will be verrrry ugly
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Today's pick: Resident Evil 4 - 69.38% Status:
pjbasis | Posted 12/11/2010 9:00:53 PM | message detail
Where the hell are you Persona fans!?
WhiteLens | Posted 12/11/2010 9:01:01 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 43.48%

10
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 56.52%

13
TOTAL VOTES 23

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Bigwig_rah | Posted 12/11/2010 9:01:02 PM | message detail
P4 with 45%

Refresh

P4 with 25%
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/11/2010 9:01:36 PM | message detail
RESIDENT
EVIL
FOOOOOUR

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GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/11/2010 9:01:57 PM | message detail
looks like KOTOR was the bracket favorite over FFIX
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Today's pick: Resident Evil 4 - 69.38% Status:
swordz9 | Posted 12/11/2010 9:02:03 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 4 25%

2
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 75%

6
TOTAL VOTES 8

It's a shame P4 won't stay ahead for more than an instant.

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IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/11/2010 9:02:29 PM | message detail
DAT TOP OPTION.

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SHINE GET 64 | Posted 12/11/2010 9:02:36 PM | message detail
Mr. Scott Kennedy does it again what a true hero
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Biolizard28 | Posted 12/11/2010 9:03:02 PM | message detail
Avoiding the tripling WHERE YOU AT
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/11/2010 9:06:38 PM | message detail
There is no reason for Persona 3 and Persona 4 to have different strength so this isn't very impressive by RE4. It looks barely stronger than FF9, which got 69% on Persona
GrapefruitKing | Posted 12/11/2010 9:07:13 PM | message detail
There is no reason for Persona 3 and Persona 4 to have different strength

lol
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Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 12/11/2010 9:10:44 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
153----4------------100.00
152----2------------100.00
151----3------------100.00
150----9------------88.89
149----10----------100.00
148----12----------91.67
147----22----------90.91
146----33----------96.97
145----33----------84.85
144----69----------94.20
143----65----------83.08
142----80----------87.50
141----71----------66.20
140----76----------80.26
139----100--------71.00
138----120--------71.67
137----211--------79.62
136----148--------65.54
135----178--------62.36
134----169--------63.91
133----176--------60.80
132----219--------59.36
131----233--------59.66
130----218--------55.50
129----287--------50.52
128----258--------54.26
127----287--------47.74
126----322--------50.00
125----296--------51.01
124----316--------48.10
123----376--------44.41
122----361--------43.77
121----372--------43.82
120----388--------37.63
119----359--------37.05
118----395--------44.56
117----378--------43.12
116----434--------40.09
115----402--------38.81
114----423--------37.59
113----414--------38.41
112----424--------36.79
111----444--------34.23
110----430--------35.81
109----461--------30.37
108----442--------34.39
107----515--------31.07
106----476--------24.37
105----472--------28.39
104----504--------30.16
103----538--------31.41
102----529--------24.39
101----525--------24.95
100----550--------25.82
99------554--------26.90
98------556--------24.46
97------537--------26.26
96------599--------28.38
95------566--------24.73
94------549--------22.59
93------557--------25.49
92------575--------19.65
91------557--------25.49
90------543--------21.92
89------564--------21.10
88------630--------24.44
87------551--------20.87
86------535--------25.98
85------588--------19.56
84------532--------21.80
83------524--------20.99
82------512--------23.83
81------465--------19.14
80------441--------20.41
79------457--------19.26
78------440--------19.09
77------410--------21.22
76------388--------18.30
75------348--------21.84
74------298--------21.48
73------276--------17.03
72------302--------18.54
71------259--------17.37
70------275--------16.73
69------251--------21.12
68------185--------19.46
67------165--------20.00
66------211--------17.06
65------148--------21.62
64------134--------19.40
63------123--------20.33
62------94----------15.96
61------101--------18.81
60------77----------16.88
59------67----------16.42
58------76----------21.05
57------61----------16.39
56------52----------11.54
55------55----------16.36
54------52----------13.46
53------34----------14.71

51------27----------7.41
50------29----------17.24
49------21----------9.52

47------16----------12.50
46------10----------20.00

44------5------------20.00
43------6------------16.67
42------8------------12.50

36------6------------16.67
35------9------------11.11

30------3------------33.33

25------4------------50.00

3--------12----------8.33

Max Score: 164
Omitted scores got it wrong.

Not too bad for prediction percentage. It's even higher than TP's was. The top tiers didn't have trouble with the match. For the most part, -20 and better managed to stay above 90. A few people near the top do get the match wrong. Overall this is a pretty normal chart and prediction percentage falls off as you would expect.

3 people fell off the Top 50. Xetherion and axelslament and Bryanishxc did not have FF9 winning the match.

Chaotic Mind, if you want a copy of the Top 50 page when you were first place, you can find it here:
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695924 | Posted 12/11/2010 9:11:37 PM | message detail
Their fanbases should be one and the same. You can tell just by looking at b8, if they voted for one they will vote the other. There's no reason to believe people as dedicated as Atlus fans to vote for mainstream trash like FF and RE over their masterpieces.
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/11/2010 9:11:51 PM | message detail
In summation, vote for PORTAL tomorrow morning.

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abdou | Posted 12/11/2010 9:12:01 PM | message detail
P4 should be stronger but by not much, the game is still weak, very weak. If RE4 ends under 70% somehow this would be very disappointing
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/11/2010 9:23:00 PM | message detail
Top 10 Updated

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Team Fortress 2 – 30893 vs. Fable – 30856 (R1) – 37
2. Shadow of the Colossus – 26975 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 – 26930 (R2) – 45
3. Persona 4 – 23368 vs. Dead Rising – 23117 (R2) – 251
4. Morrowind – 25522 vs. Warcraft III – 25066 (R1) – 456
5. Deus Ex – 25117 vs. Rock Band 2 – 24365 (R1) – 752
6. Street Fighter IV – 27481 vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 26673 (R1) – 808
7. Pokemon RSE – 30021 vs. Grand Theft Auto IV – 29113 (R1) – 908
8. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 – 26911 vs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii – 25287 (R1) – 1624
9. Kingdom Hearts II – 27775 vs. Kingdom Hearts – 25211 (R3) – 2564
10. Final Fantasy IX – 29231 vs. Star Wars: KotOR – 25849 (R3) – 3382

Top 10 Most Popular Night Polls
1. LoZ: Majora’s Mask vs. Chrono Cross (R2) – 44125
2. Final Fantasy X vs. Borderlands (R2) – 43926
3. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Bioshock (R2) – 43262
4. Star Wars: KotOR vs. Devil May Cry (R1) – 43163
5. Halo 3 vs. Super Mario Sunshine (R1) – 42791
6. Final Fantasy X vs. Viewtiful Joe (R1) – 42049
7. Final Fantasy X vs. Golden Sun (R3) – 41851
8. Metroid Prime vs. Star Ocean 3 (R1) – 41441
9. Portal vs. Final Fantasy XII (R2) – 41240
10. Fallout 3 vs. inFamous (R1) – 41239

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Fable (R1) – 30856
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 29113
3. Metal Gear Solid 2 (R2) – 26930
4. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 26674
5. Sonic Adventure 2 (R1) – 26673
6. Star Wars: KotOR (R3) – 25849
7. Paper Mario: TTYD (R2) – 25375
8. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (R1) – 25287
9. Kingdom Hearts (R3) – 25211
10. Warcraft III (R1) – 25066

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Kingdom Hearts (R3) – 11.70%
2. Paper Mario vs. World of Warcraft (R2) – 13.73%
3. Golden Sun vs. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 16.05%
4. Pokemon RSE vs. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 26.23%
5. Persona 4 vs. Dead Rising (R2) – 27.47%
6. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Bioshock (R2) – 29.25%
7. Paper Mario: TTYD vs. Gears of War (R1) – 29.33%
8. LoZ: Twilight Princess vs. Super Mario Galaxy (R3) – 30.47%
9. Final Fantasy IX vs. Star Wars: KotOR (R3) – 30.68%
10. Halo vs. Uncharted 2 (R3) – 31.00%

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/11/2010 9:26:30 PM | message detail
RE4 not doing quite as well as I'd hoped.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2010 9:31:31 PM | message detail
What's with the insane preference of Asia/Phillipines for KH2? Very strange.

On the day of the KH/KH2 match, someone pointed out that the difference between KH and KH2 is that KH focuses more on the Disney part than the Final Fantasy part, while KH2 focuses more on the Final Fantasy part than the Disney part. Since KH2 is more Final Fantasy-oriented and Final Fantasy does very well in Asia/Phillipines, that might explain the insane preference there.
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Greyfeld | Posted 12/11/2010 9:46:11 PM | message detail

From: 695924 | #477
Their fanbases should be one and the same. You can tell just by looking at b8, if they voted for one they will vote the other. There's no reason to believe people as dedicated as Atlus fans to vote for mainstream trash like FF and RE over their masterpieces.


This is where you're wrong. You don't have to be an "Atlus fan" to like some of their games, the same way you don't need to be a "Squaresoft Fan" to like TWEWY or the FFT games. Personally, I thought P4 was a great game, but thought P3 was boring as crap. Also, There are a number of FF games I would vote over P4, but I would still vote P3 over other FF games.

You're oversimplifying something that's not clear-cut in the slightest, and if anything, the fanbase has shown that there are many people who like P3 or P4 and dislike the other game. Fact is, there is every reason to believe that P4 is slightly stronger than its predecessor.
ZFS | Posted 12/11/2010 9:48:45 PM | message detail
Put me in the camp that voted for P4, but wouldn't have voted for P3.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/11/2010 9:51:58 PM | message detail
Meh, FF6, FF7, same series, same thing.
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Greyfeld | Posted 12/11/2010 9:55:09 PM | message detail
That said, I think if we put P3 and P4 against each other, we'd probably be looking at a 43/57 matchup. I think the difference in indirect strength is only a few %.
creativename | Posted 12/11/2010 10:35:35 PM | message detail
FFX probably did not SFF Golden Sun since it's Nintendo, and God of War and SA are definitely not the same genre.

From: UltimaterializerX | #1908
But according to cn the FF games aren't stronger at night, you know. I mean it's not like we don't have insane amounts of evidence or anything.


FFX and FFVII. Not FFIX, which is not hated. FFIX is pretty clearly a night game, it's day vote is garbage and it's not anti-voted (in fact it's probably a minor board fave). To talk about FFIX like it's relevant to FFX is dumb and I don't why you'd even attempt it.

And yeah...large amounts of evidence is actually right.

Anyone that at this point looks at the trends charts of FFX and RE4 so far this contest, and thinks that the night match is an clear advantage for FFX, is delusional. I'm sorry but there's no other way to put it, what exactly is people's reasoning? The evidence is pretty damn blatant.

FFX rises to heaven. It was straight doubling GS during the day. It would've very likely finished higher in a 24 hour match than what it had at noon. I'm not sure what is hard to comprehend here?

A night match is RE4's best chance to win because due to the lower vote totals, there is a higher chance of "this contest!" type wonkiness. Bandwagoning is much more influential in night matches.

I could see a Snake/Cloud scenario but in a 12 hour match developing here, where RE4 jumps out early, FFX storms back but then simply runs of of time - failing to finish a comeback it easily would have completed in a 24 hour match.

I don't know if RE4 will finish much higher or at all higher in a night match as it would in a day match - but a night match is RE4's best shot simply because chaos is more likely in a 12 hour night match. I really don't think RE4 would beat FFX in a 24 hour match, but it has a shot here.

From: red sox 777 | #2002
For all the FF games, I'd say night > day, but for VII, 24 hours is even better, and for VIII and X, 24 hours and night are probably pretty close.


There is little question that FF7/Cloud/Sephiroth is worse at 12 hour night than 12 hour day against neutral competition. 24 hour>day>night for FF7. FFX is less clear, 24 hours is probably best, not sure yet if day or night is better. But we've seen nothing so far to indicate it's better at night. Also let's not forget FFX's strong SNV. A day match is more than just the ASV, just like a night match is far more than just the dead hours. People really seem to get confused when it comes to understanding how trends relate to 12 hour matches.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:38:42 PM | message detail
Hmm....RE4 pretty much doing what it has to if it manages to stay here (or rise a bit). Good show.
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creativename | Posted 12/11/2010 10:46:50 PM | message detail
My guess is that P4 is probably slightly stronger than P3. RE4 doing just fine here. Not much I'd take from this match even if it was off a few percent.

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From: -LusterSoldier- | #2402
On the day of the KH/KH2 match, someone pointed out that the difference between KH and KH2 is that KH focuses more on the Disney part than the Final Fantasy part, while KH2 focuses more on the Final Fantasy part than the Disney part. Since KH2 is more Final Fantasy-oriented and Final Fantasy does very well in Asia/Phillipines, that might explain the insane preference there.


Yes that's what my first thought was as well, however the favoritism for KH2 was just so extreme. I wouldn't expect it to be nearly that huge, even if they love Square so much. It's such a startling level of dominance.
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WarThaNemesis2 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:47:34 PM | message detail
Who?

What do you think the S. stands for in Leon S. Kennedy? Steve?
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kinsho3 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:48:47 PM | message detail

From: creativename | #327
A night match is RE4's best chance to win because due to the lower vote totals, there is a higher chance of "this contest!" type wonkiness. Bandwagoning is much more influential in night matches.


I respectfully disagree. If what you're saying is true, Missingno would have beaten Sephiroth last contest.
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IngmarBirdman | Posted 12/11/2010 10:49:18 PM | message detail
ANNOYING BIRD, I AM THE GREAT LEON!

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tgs2 | Posted 12/11/2010 10:54:19 PM | message detail
A night match is RE4's best chance to win because due to the lower vote totals, there is a higher chance of "this contest!" type wonkiness. Bandwagoning is much more influential in night matches.

Except All of FFX's matches were top 10 in night time votals.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/11/2010 11:03:58 PM | message detail
Bad argument. All of FFX matches would be in daytime Top 10 too if it had day matches
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:06:41 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | KOTOR | FFIX | Votes
0:05 | 44.69% | 55.31% | 810
1:00 | 46.34% | 53.66% | 7993
2:00 | 46.56% | 53.44% | 6585
3:00 | 47.49% | 52.51% | 5902
4:00 | 47.15% | 52.85% | 5319
5:00 | 47.36% | 52.64% | 4985
6:00 | 46.69% | 53.31% | 4397
7:00 | 46.56% | 53.44% | 4117
8:00 | 46.34% | 53.66% | 3658
9:00 | 46.96% | 53.04% | 3367
10:00 | 46.75% | 53.25% | 3134
11:00 | 48.18% | 51.82% | 3001
12:00 | 47.67% | 52.33% | 2622

Diluted weekend trends mean not much shifting, even in spite of FFIX's crappy day vote.

Lower Half Stats

Final Fantasy IX – 50.00%
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic – 46.93%
Devil May Cry – 39.37%
Fire Emblem – 36.95%
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3 – 31.13%
Civilization IV – 29.67%
Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 2 – 26.22%
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Trials & Tribulations – 24.81%
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/11/2010 11:07:03 PM | message detail
Preliminary upper half stats:

Resident Evil 4 – 50.00%
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City – 34.31%
Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 – 28.61%
Dead Rising – 28.46%
The World Ends With You – 27.93%
Silent Hill 2 – 25.00%
Braid – 20.62%
Jet Grind Radio – 17.85%
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creativename | Posted 12/11/2010 11:21:15 PM | message detail

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #2410
What do you think the S. stands for in Leon S. Kennedy? Steve?


Never knew he had a middle initial :) And I would've simply assumed it meant "Super", duh.

From: kinsho3 | #2451
I respectfully disagree. If what you're saying is true, Missingno would have beaten Sephiroth last contest.


No. You're confusing what I'm saying. This being RE4's best chance, doesn't mean it will actually win. Also if you look at Sephiroth/Missingno, it's pretty clear that Seph would've finished with a higher %age in a 24 hour match than he did in the night match, despite Missingno supposedly being the "day" character.

RE4/FFX should be similar to Snake/Cloud and Seph/Missingno in terms of trends.

From: tgs2 | #2453
Except All of FFX's matches were top 10 in night time votals.


...I...really have no idea what you are trying to say. What does this have to do with anything? Cloud is also a great vote draw and he is anti-voted to hell.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/11/2010 11:23:56 PM | message detail
...I...really have no idea what you are trying to say. What does this have to do with anything? Cloud is also a great vote draw and he is anti-voted to hell.

He's trying to say that FFX is doing a good job at bringing in the votes too. With higher vote totals, it's harder to hold off a comeback. Besides FFX, the Zelda games and KH games are also doing good at bringing in votes.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/11/2010 11:26:20 PM | message detail
RE4 is only going to get 46% on FFX anyway you know
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/11/2010 11:27:05 PM | message detail
Play EarthBound.
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