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Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man
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2010 Game of the Decade Contest - 121/144 points - Today: Super Smash Bros. Melee / Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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Nice to see SMG avoiding SFF
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

Well, Sonic was even with Link through about 100 votes too. Link was at a doubling by the freeze I think.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

SUPA MARIO GALAXYYYYYYY
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And then the car wash cost five dollars.
Pokemon Platinum: 1719 9497 5082 Pokemon HeartGold: 2966 0920 7723

DAT BOARD V-- *swallowed up by ZeldaFAQs*

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"I skate when I want to!"
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It's not avoiding it that much.
Still, nice board vote there.
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*sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16

Man, what a board vote for Galaxy.
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So...Twilight Princess is a Gamecube game, right? That's what you argued?
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Link was at 58% on Mario at the freeze last year, and ended up over 64%, so we may still see the doubling here.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

Heh, so SBAllen really did pick DPP.
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LM

I'm just glad I got to see Galaxy over 60% despite my slow computer.
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This is the game that people thought could beat FFX? I was expecting a 60/40 here.
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lol opinions

FFX would destroy TP
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From: 695924 | #013
This is the game that people thought could beat FFX? I was expecting a 60/40 here.

A 60/40 certainly isn't out of the question after that board vote.

Though at this point I think it's more likely TP would lose to KH1 or 2 than it'd be for TP to beat FFX!
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Wylvane
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On the other hand, Brawl could only 53-47 TP, so if SMG can hold this, that shows Brawl is only worth 60% on SMG, meaning it's only worth 60% on COD4, meaning it's time to stop talking about Melee 60-40ing Brawl and start talking about Melee 70-30ing Brawl after SFF. Yessssssssss
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

Looks like our admin did not take brawl in his bracket.
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Did we...seriously underestimate Galaxy?

Brawl > Melee confirmed
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This is...hmmm. I'm gonna need more updates before I start venturing guesses, but here's to hoping SMG can somehow rise!
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EEEEEPPPPPOOOOONNNNNAAAAA

I can't believe someone who deliberately set up Melee/Brawl did not take Melee/Brawl to happen.

I don't care what the results say, I refuse to believe it happened.
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SMG will probably drop a lot.
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Maybe he just foolishly thought "Hah! I'll set a rematch but look at that, surprise upset people won't see coming. Kekeke.
And of course, it bites him in the ass. If brawl wins over melee, he looks really bad. Or does he have melee losing too?
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*sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16

Score-Brackets-% Right
140----1------------100.00
141----0------------0.00
138----5------------80.00
137----11----------81.82
136----11----------90.91
135----15----------93.33
134----24----------91.67
133----36----------94.44
132----74----------93.24
131----89----------93.26
130----147--------85.03
129----187--------92.51
128----148--------85.14
127----178--------86.52
126----152--------86.84
125----195--------81.03
124----222--------76.13
123----237--------82.28
122----256--------82.03
121----275--------84.00
120----279--------80.29
119----303--------80.53
118----300--------78.67
117----346--------76.88
116----308--------74.68
115----364--------81.87
114----375--------77.07
113----360--------73.89
112----426--------70.19
111----415--------76.87
110----409--------77.02
109----393--------76.84
108----466--------73.82
107----424--------69.10
106----462--------75.32
105----454--------73.79
104----412--------73.30
103----501--------71.26
102----490--------70.00
101----523--------69.60
100----524--------70.99
99------555--------64.86
98------519--------70.33
97------554--------66.79
96------572--------66.43
95------603--------69.65
94------596--------65.10
93------571--------65.50
92------638--------69.28
91------600--------66.67
90------627--------66.03
89------603--------61.36
88------665--------58.65
87------653--------63.25
86------603--------63.85
85------635--------59.06
84------657--------57.84
83------624--------55.93
82------623--------61.16
81------602--------59.47
80------619--------57.84
79------599--------58.26
78------601--------56.07
77------586--------58.19
76------571--------54.82
75------505--------59.41
74------469--------57.57
73------463--------54.86
72------420--------50.48
71------434--------50.46
70------383--------45.43
69------344--------50.29
68------306--------42.81
67------256--------45.31
66------288--------37.85
65------248--------47.18
64------227--------40.09
63------193--------36.27
62------179--------39.11
61------158--------29.75
60------118--------33.05
59------107--------35.51
58------102--------34.31
57------97----------26.80
56------68----------25.00
55------75----------28.00
54------72----------25.00
53------42----------11.90
52------41----------19.51
51------34----------23.53
50------43----------27.91
49------32----------15.63
48------15----------26.67
47------22----------13.64
46------19----------5.26
45------14----------21.43
44------8------------25.00
43------11----------9.09
42------7------------0.00
41------7------------28.57
40------10----------0.00
39------4------------0.00
38------14----------7.14
37------3------------0.00
36------6------------0.00
35------8------------12.50
34------6------------33.33
33------5------------0.00
32------2------------50.00
31------4------------0.00
30------4------------25.00

27------5------------60.00

25------3------------33.33

9--------6------------16.67

Max Score: 148
Omitted scores got it wrong.

Overall prediction percentage is much better than SSBM's. However, the top tiers did slightly worse in this match. Other than the -8, all of the top tiers lose at least 1 bracket. For the tiers where SSBM support was in the high 90s, SSBB had low 90s. When SSBM had high 80s, SSBB had low 80s. SSBM's support did fade faster as you go down which led to having a much lower prediction percentage.

5 people fell off the Top 50. Zikako, Underdogman, Saotome924, RPGGamer0 and wpwfs2003 did not have SSBB winning the match.

1 person got it wrong and survived. PKProStudio did not have SSBB winning the match.

Not surprised, still it'll end up being 60/40.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

Link took a few updates before he really got going against Mario, but it looks like a doubling is well out of reach, especially as TP doesn't get a chance to use the ASV. 60% is very much in reach but it's not impossible for Mario to hold 40%.
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

Shouldn't Bacon have known better than to take DPP > Brawl especially after the 2009. I mean, Galaxy beat DPP, and Galaxy lost to Brawl.
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The Gamer In Me
"Ike and Ash and co. saw a Yoshi and didn't catch it" - Mer telling us his dream

Well, I'll be damned. Europe is carrying Zelda 70-30 while NA has it 56-44.
I thought this would be the opposite.
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*sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16

Updated Top 10

Top 10 Biggest Day Vote Gaps
1. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 44460 vs. Mario Kart DS – 8936 (R1) – 35524
2. LoZ: Twilight Princess – 47034 vs. Shenmue – 12220 (R1) – 34814
3. Kingdom Hearts – 43966 vs. Castlevania: DoS – 13206 (R1) – 30760
4. Final Fantasy IX – 41701 vs. Phoenix Wright: AA T&T – 13760 (R1) – 27941
5. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 38647 vs. Valkyria Chronicles – 11912 (R2) – 26735
6. Super Smash Bros. Brawl – 38580 vs. Pokemon DPP – 14344 (R3) – 24236
7. Pokemon GSC – 37153 vs. Advance Wars – 13547 (R1) – 23606
8. Half-Life 2 – 35766 vs. Left 4 Dead 2 – 12254 (R1) – 23512
9. Pokemon GSC – 39930 vs. Mario Kart Wii – 16418 (R2) – 23512
10. Diablo II – 34981 vs. Eternal Darkness – 12094 (R1) – 22887

Top 10 Highest Individual Day Votes
1. LoZ: Twilight Princess (R1) – 47034
2. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (R1) – 44460
3. Kingdom Hearts (R1) – 43966
4. Final Fantasy IX (R1) – 41701
5. Kingdom Hearts (R2) – 41363
6. Pokemon GSC (R2) – 39930
7. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (R2) – 38647
8. Super Smash Bros. Brawl (R3) – 38580
9. Kingdom Hearts II (R1) – 37478
10. Pokemon GSC (R1) – 37153

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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

LOL, a supposed Wii game can't even SFF Galaxy, something on its own system that always bombs?
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Nice SMG is stabilizing for now.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

From: UltimaterializerX | #029
LOL, a supposed Wii game can't even SFF Galaxy, something on its own system that always bombs?

Galaxy to roflstomp most games in the bracket confirmed
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What does RSE get on TP based on these results?

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DFF

LOL, a supposed Wii game can't even SFF Galaxy, something on its own system that always bombs?

So now you're calling TP a Wii game?
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

Melee wins either way, really. If you consider TP a Gamecube game, then this proves Gamecube > Wii. If you consider it a Wii game, this proves the Wii can't SFF anything.
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Oh wow. It was going up pretty fast. If it ends around that point, I'll regret doubting my first prediction of the match (58%) to bump it up when I saw all those high 60s.
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*sigh* Lemme get my TI-83+ ...WTF!? Piece of trash!!*throws it away*~Rodri316 during his proof of why -4^2=16

This is some definite respect factor. The only other explanation is that TP is overrated after going up against terrible crap for two rounds. Nothing we saw would have given Mario a legit, intrinsic chance at 40%+ outside of respect factor. It just didn't show that strength.

So yeah, Brawl is screwed. No one respects it!
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What does RSE get on TP based on these results?

34.08%

lol DA
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

Bear in mind Galaxy probably has tons of bracket and top option support, which will be in Melee's favor during a match Melee will actually find winnable.
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"I consider myself an aspiring intellectual, even though I never went to college." -SmartMuffin

Well, I'll be damned. Europe is carrying Zelda 70-30 while NA has it 56-44.
I thought this would be the opposite.

Agree, I would have thought this as well, especially given how they were carrying NSMBWii > MvC, but then again we don't know how many of them have voted so far. Maybe not many.

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From: PartOfYourWorld | #036
So yeah, Brawl is screwed. No one respects it!

Brawl was screwed awhile ago, but there's also this.
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #036
So yeah, Brawl is screwed. No one respects it!

And yet FF7 is the second strongest game on this site despite a lot of people dissing it;.
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If you consider TP a Gamecube game, then this proves Gamecube > Wii.

SSBB defeated Pokemon DPP which defeated PoR

Wii > DS > Gamecube
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

FF7 gets plenty of respect. There's just a very loud and annoying vocal minority of haters.
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Bear in mind Galaxy probably has tons of bracket and top option support, which will be in Melee's favor during a match Melee will actually find winnable.

But 43% of brackets had SSBM while 63% had SSBB?

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"I skate when I want to!"
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FFVII is plenty respected. How many people call Brawl the greatest game ever?
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Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest.

From: UltimaterializerX | #043
FF7 gets plenty of respect. There's just a very loud and annoying vocal minority of haters.

This is relevant to the SSBM/SSBB-discussion.
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No way. How is this even possible?


I mean I know Zelda is strong but damn.
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Where's hochi he should be all over Zelda right now. Galaxy lost to CoD4 which was just embarrassed by SSBM
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH

From: charmander6000 | #048
Galaxy lost to CoD4

CoD4 looks good now, doesn't it?
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

But 43% of brackets had SSBM while 63% had SSBB?

Melee had CoD4 to contend with for brackets, though I do agree that Brawl will have the bracket support going in.
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BOP Results: http://charmander6000.webs.com/GotD%20BOP.xls
GotD Bracket: 136/150 Today's Matches: LoZ: TP & KH