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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/9/2010 10:48:14 AM | message detail

From: creativename | #399
Yes! FDL absolutely needs to be in the match pic for Majora's Mask. If Bacon chooses a picture without FDL, that would suck. No angry moon crap please, let's bring the big guns out! Link>>>grumpy moon.


I'm on it.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 10:49:35 AM | message detail
Obviously, if you want MM to beat G/S/C, you want a picture of Link, not something silly like Skull Kid or Angry Moon, so yeah.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/9/2010 10:56:54 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #401
I'm on it.

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Link he came to town

to make sure his games win

But yeah, FDL is, like, a MUST here. It's Link at his most badass by a long shot, and given GSC is gonna have a godslaying pic, it's only fair to at least give it a deity to square off against! :P
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fyrael | Posted 12/9/2010 10:59:14 AM | message detail
It's pretty easy to tell.

Awesome looking Sora = KH2

Goofy looking Sora = KH1

You don't even need the titles as long as you know this!


Uh, I think we usually aim for everyone knowing which pic goes to which game, not just the people that have played both.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 10:59:50 AM | message detail

From: fyrael | #404
It's pretty easy to tell.

Awesome looking Sora = KH2

Goofy looking Sora = KH1

You don't even need the titles as long as you know this!


Uh, I think we usually aim for everyone knowing which pic goes to which game, not just the people that have played both.


Well, KH fans will know, and that's all that matters!
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creativename | Posted 12/9/2010 11:13:06 AM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #1960
It's pretty easy to tell.

Awesome looking Sora = KH2

Goofy looking Sora = KH1

You don't even need the titles as long as you know this!


Well, KH1 Sora has bright colors, KH2 Sora might look cooler - but he doesn't stand out very well.

I think the pic will be pretty irrelevant for that match, because unlike most pics which pic is for which game won't be instantly known by most voters (the II is seriously barely visible), and the more badass Sora is also the more blandly colored one. Everything seems to even out.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2010 11:25:27 AM | message detail
Some x-stats work for this match - CoD4 went from 38.24% on Brawl to 31% once SMG was removed. SMG didn't seem to SFF Pokemon, but Brawl did seem to SFF SMG.

DPP got 45.11% on SMG. Working through Brawl/SMG, that gives you DPP getting 24.79% on Brawl. But if you boost for the Brawl/SMG LFF, you get 24.79*38.24/31=30.58%. Which would predict Brawl to get 69.42% in this match, and would assume that Brawl would SFF DPP the same ratio it SFFed Galaxy.


I know it looks eerily accurate, but I still don't buy that round 3 match Brawl had last year. 38% to 31% is a substantially more damage than Sephiroth did to Cloud- and SMG was pulling in a lower percentage relative to Brawl than Seph was relative to Cloud too. New Nintendo LFF is brutal, but I doubt it quite matches same game LFF. I still think Brawl overperformed due to standing out in that match last year, and if Melee matched its percentage this year, that means either Melee is just stronger, or COD4 fell, or both.

DPP lost to SMG comfortably, which looked to be on par with COD4 last year, so today's match suggests Brawl is not quite worth 69% on COD4, if it's getting any SFF at all here.
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transience | Posted 12/9/2010 11:27:37 AM | message detail
Fusion stands out in those stats. no way does it lose to Perfect Dark.

Brawl looks like the stronger of the two games based on this. you'd have to call SFF to think otherwise, I think.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 11:29:47 AM | message detail

From: transience | #408
Fusion stands out in those stats. no way does it lose to Perfect Dark.


Well, if you think CoD > D/P/P still, then PD > Fusion is the next natural step.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2010 11:31:49 AM | message detail
What's wrong with Fusion losing to Perfect Dark?

There's probably a little SFF here. Not that much. This result is that surprising considering CoD4 smushed DPP last year.

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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2010 11:32:29 AM | message detail
*isn't that surprising

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Advokaiser | Posted 12/9/2010 11:39:01 AM | message detail
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transience | Posted 12/9/2010 11:40:47 AM | message detail
was there SFF in Galaxy/RSE? or Galaxy/DPP last year? or any Pokemon/Nintendo matchup in the last couple years?

I would pick Fusion every day of the week over Perfect Dark.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2010 11:45:36 AM | message detail
No, because Galaxy sucks. This is nothing new!

I said 'a little' SFF, and that's what's here. Probably not more than 1-2%. And I have no idea why you continuously try to underrate Perfect Dark. It's only bad match ever is last year, and that wasn't exactly the fairest situation.

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transience | Posted 12/9/2010 11:47:58 AM | message detail
more like I don't know why you'd underestimate Fusion. eh, we'll see next round. (not really, these stats won't matter much)
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/9/2010 11:49:10 AM | message detail
I think Perfect Dark being about equal to Fusion sounds fine!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2010 11:53:02 AM | message detail
I don't think I'm underestimating Fusion. The last few results we've seen line up pretty well with that CoD4/Galaxy/DPP fourpack we saw last year. And that's before you take time zones into account; give Brawl a night match and Melee a day match and these results get flipped.

Basically, Galaxy still sucks and TP is going to molest it.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 11:53:17 AM | message detail
I think everyone was underestimating Fusion before the contest!

I don't really expect a big SFF split between Melee/Brawl though. Same with KH1/KH2 tomorrow.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/9/2010 12:02:29 PM | message detail
LMFAO

An SFF match and Brawl can barely outdo the expected percentage based on last year's stats? 60/40 in Melee's favor, here we come.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:05:40 PM | message detail
LOL 4-ways

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transience | Posted 12/9/2010 12:08:21 PM | message detail
excusing this via a day/night match doesn't work. all four of these games are very day-heavy.

Fusion is one of the biggest GBA games. there are three (or four) depending on how you look at it: Fusion, RSE, Golden Sun and FFTA. Golden Sun and RSE have done well. I'd be surprised if Fusion did poorly after those two looked so good.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2010 12:09:33 PM | message detail
Melee looks a lot better based on today's matches to me.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:10:24 PM | message detail
I don't think either game has looked a lot better than the other at any point in time, personally.
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vcharon | Posted 12/9/2010 12:10:25 PM | message detail
Wow, this is a godstomp. I never thought I'd see Pokemon with such a low percentage on this site again.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/9/2010 12:12:05 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #420
LOL 4-ways

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Not if it helps Melee's case
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AfroSquirrel | Posted 12/9/2010 12:12:09 PM | message detail
What are the thoughts on SMG v TP? I've been able to pull of a string, but I'm currently banking on this one.
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vcharon | Posted 12/9/2010 12:12:41 PM | message detail
I have to side with Brawl being more impressive this round. CoD is loathed here, failing to score 70% on it when you're supposedly the front runner to win this isn't so hot.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:12:58 PM | message detail

From: AfroSquirrel | #426
What are the thoughts on SMG v TP? I've been able to pull of a string, but I'm currently banking on this one.


If Galaxy avoids getting doubled tomorrow, consider it a moral victory.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/9/2010 12:16:40 PM | message detail

From: AfroSquirrel | #426
What are the thoughts on SMG v TP? I've been able to pull of a string, but I'm currently banking on this one.


TP will do unpleasant things to SMG. You may even want to avert your eyes.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/9/2010 12:17:12 PM | message detail

From: vcharon | #424
Wow, this is a godstomp. I never thought I'd see Pokemon with such a low percentage on this site again.


It's a very good showing from Brawl, but high-60s was kind of expected, was it not? All in all, I think this is a blow to that growing theory that Pokemon cannot get SFF'd or truly godstomped. It may be a difficult entrant to cream when you've got things like Pikachu and Charizard up there - entrants that convey massive nostalgia and pluck at the heartstrings. But this new Pokemon crap - I can't see why it would be immune from beatings, especially when it's rocking such a weak picture up there. What percentage of voters even know that Pokemon's name? The series doesn't draw its strength from crap like that.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/9/2010 12:18:46 PM | message detail
Yeah, TP wins easily.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/9/2010 12:20:03 PM | message detail
If you want to look at the only DPP we've ever seen, Lucario, he very clearly got LFFd in two different situations.

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:20:25 PM | message detail
I just looked at the spread betting topic for Galaxy/TP.

Holy crap, people actually still believe Galaxy can break 40%?
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vcharon | Posted 12/9/2010 12:20:34 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #430
It's a very good showing from Brawl, but high-60s was kind of expected, was it not? All in all, I think this is a blow to that growing theory that Pokemon cannot get SFF'd or truly godstomped. It may be a difficult entrant to cream when you've got things like Pikachu and Charizard up there - entrants that convey massive nostalgia and pluck at the heartstrings. But this new Pokemon crap - I can't see why it would be immune from beatings, especially when it's rocking such a weak picture up there. What percentage of voters even know that Pokemon's name? The series doesn't draw its strength from crap like that.


Still, the name "Pokemon" is on it. That was enough for this game to beat two other Nintendo games it probably should not have beaten. I was expecting Brawl to turn in a mid-high 60's performance; this is Pokemon after all. I think after Charizard people were under the impression Pokemon was resistant against Nintendo SFF, but I don't believe that's the case at this point.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2010 12:22:54 PM | message detail
TP = 3rd strongest Zelda
SMG = 5th strongest Mario

Eh, probably pretty close to Link/Mario, since the Mario series is closer to the Zelda series than Mario is to Link.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:42:25 PM | message detail
Well, I don't really think TP is that far off from Melee or Brawl (clearly weaker, don't get me wrong, but not by a lot), and after seeing what Melee and Brawl have done to CoD4 and DPP today...

Yeah...
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/9/2010 12:45:39 PM | message detail
Hmm, good point. I suppose TP also doubled SMG in the latest GOTY poll despite Wind Waker holding it back.
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AfroSquirrel | Posted 12/9/2010 12:49:49 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #109
TP will do unpleasant things to SMG. You may even want to avert your eyes.


Now why would I do that? If I can continue this, that's great news!
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TRE Public Account | Posted 12/9/2010 12:50:24 PM | message detail
Still, the name "Pokemon" is on it. That was enough for this game to beat two other Nintendo games it probably should not have beaten. I was expecting Brawl to turn in a mid-high 60's performance; this is Pokemon after all. I think after Charizard people were under the impression Pokemon was resistant against Nintendo SFF, but I don't believe that's the case at this point.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3998

Pokemon is definitely resistant to SFF. It's not an immunity, though. Also it might not hold up as well against the SSB series since there is a significant Pokemon presence in SSB games.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:50:38 PM | message detail

From: AfroSquirrel | #438
Now why would I do that? If I can continue this, that's great news!


If you have any love for Galaxy whatsoever, you're not going to want to see it!
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XIII_rocks | Posted 12/9/2010 12:56:08 PM | message detail
Pokemon may resist SFF but after a couple of Nasty Plots, it doesn't matter?
Big Bob | Posted 12/9/2010 12:56:24 PM | message detail
Nothing can SFF Pokemon.

NOT EVEN POKEMON.

That's right, GSC wasn't being held back by RBY last year!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:56:38 PM | message detail

From: Big Bob | #442
Nothing can SFF Pokemon.

NOT EVEN POKEMON.

That's right, GSC wasn't being held back by RBY last year!


DUN DUN DUN
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/9/2010 12:57:44 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995

Uh oh. TP might disappoint after all
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 12:58:41 PM | message detail
Man, Hochi always busts out the big guns when you least expect it!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/9/2010 12:59:05 PM | message detail
Stop not being on AIM all the time Leon, geez.

Also, I need to prepare a funeral ceremony for the upcoming death of Super Mario Galaxy.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/9/2010 12:59:50 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #444
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=2995


oh s***, Galaxy > WW. I can live with this.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/9/2010 1:00:48 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #446
Stop not being on AIM all the time Leon, geez.


I'm trying!

Lousy inconsistent internet

Also, can you really hold a funeral ceremony if there are no remains?
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Haste_2 | Posted 12/9/2010 1:01:30 PM | message detail
I would be interested in seeing RBY vs. RSE just to make sure of that theory.

Can Pokemon gain the SF advantage on other stuff, though? No, don't point to RBY/Zelda:MM/PD/BK last year! It could more be the fact that it was a GB game against three N64 games... I'm not sure if Pokemon GSC/Mario Kart Wii had SFF, though... I mean, it could make sense, but it also puts Advance Wars too close to PW:AA.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/9/2010 1:03:17 PM | message detail
Brawl appears to be getting the ASV here over DPP.
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