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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:04:21 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #099
This is a masterful ASV hold, and CA is backing HL2 with 57.5% right now. This could be 55/45 all day.


*looks at his 55.10% HL2 Oracle prediction*

Excellent.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:05:06 PM | message detail
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:05:35 PM | message detail
My post was towards people thinking MP > HL2

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:06:26 PM | message detail
Ah, I see.

But I'd also tend to stick with the "safe" fanbase in a 50/50 match, but then again, SOTC just beat MGS2, so what do I know...!
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/8/2010 2:07:45 PM | message detail
Rumors of FFX disappointing have been ghostly exaggerated. Most big games in this contest haven't really impressed us; we've been disappointed with like every big game.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 2:08:42 PM | message detail

From: Haste_2 | #098
In Okami's defense, it was in a night match, so it will be a bit inflated in the stats. Still, I agree with Leonhart about Okami beating Tales. Okami was beaten by Halo 2 without too much trouble last time.


In a 4-way
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:09:25 PM | message detail
Hochi knows what's up. We seem to think the Big 3 will perform like OoT/FFVII when in reality they aren't that far from the competition.
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:09:29 PM | message detail
I got both of those matches right. Halo and Portal were clearly more popular than the other games.

Half-Life 2 is not clearly more popular than Prime.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 2:10:00 PM | message detail
I don't see any problem with RE5 vs. Okami being a debatable match. RE5 wouldn't having any trouble scoring 56% on Mega Man 9.

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:10:27 PM | message detail
In a 4-way

What reason is there for Okami to be any different? Especially when it hasn't shown that it is.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/8/2010 2:10:36 PM | message detail
Capcom SFF!

Yeah I said it
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 2:11:19 PM | message detail
If Halo 2 ever faces Okami 1 on 1, please pick Halo 2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:11:28 PM | message detail
I'm just glad it's shaping up to be a match with no clear favorite, really. Our other big round 4 showdowns probably won't be as good in reality as they've been for us to debate in this topic, so that might be our one lone highlight for the round.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:11:31 PM | message detail
Half Life 2 is doing really well.But can it beat MP?
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WhiteLens | Posted 12/8/2010 2:11:39 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #078
The guy wasn't suited for him and came off like a whiny tool for a majority of the game, when Tidus isn't really a whiny character. Tidus and Yuna are great characters and I like them both, but it's not because of their VAs.


Funny that you also mention Symphonia, when the voice actor for Yggdrasill and Gnome also voiced Tidus.
And I'd say that he improved his Tidus voice in Dissidia.

And I'll probably pick MP on battle despite having HL2 on bracket.
Stupid 4-ways, making MP look bad at the start.
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Big Bob | Posted 12/8/2010 2:12:30 PM | message detail
Tales and Okami were in the same 8-pack in the last games contest, which proved Tales is significantly stronger. Judging from that, MP/HL2 is still 50-50 to me.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:12:52 PM | message detail
If Halo 2 ever faces Okami 1 on 1, please pick Halo 2.

Only in a day/24 hour match though.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:13:04 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #112
If Halo 2 ever faces Okami 1 on 1, please pick Halo 2.


Eh, it was close enough in 4-ways that Okami could reverse it just by changing the format (and I wouldn't see a problem with picking Halo 2 if it was a day match, honestly), but KH2 65/35ing Okami wouldn't surprise me in the least. It's stronger than Prime by a decent margin, I'd wager.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2010 2:16:24 PM | message detail
I also think Prime/HL2 is a toss-up. I probably won't submit an Oracle prediction until I see Zelda/Oblivion. That's obviously a different match, but there are parallels to be made: big name Nintendo entry vs. respected Western game in a weekday day match. If Wind Waker rolls, I'll probably favor Prime. If Oblivion manages a decent fight, I might switch to Gordon.
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:18:11 PM | message detail
Oblivion is an RPG. that's totally different to HL2 in my mind. I'd pick Oblivion over HL2 just because of that.
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EvilNcr | Posted 12/8/2010 2:20:10 PM | message detail

From: Haste_2 | #098
In Okami's defense, it was in a night match, so it will be a bit inflated in the stats. Still, I agree with Leonhart about Okami beating Tales. Okami was beaten by Halo 2 without too much trouble last time.


LOL four-ways. 3% ain't much. And head-to-head, Halo gets anti-voted. Okami is pretty damn respected. More than I thought initially.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2010 2:20:32 PM | message detail
Is the general consensus that HL2 is roughly equal to Oblivion? If Wind Waker got 55%, which is what it got against Prime all those years ago, which is up against HL2, which is considered about equal to Oblivion...

then I would laugh.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:20:54 PM | message detail
Massive HL2 underestimation there, no way Paper Mario is that close to HL2 or even ToS.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/8/2010 2:22:08 PM | message detail
Okami would beat Halo 2 one on one. But the point is that Metroid Prime did terribly against Okami. Metroid Prime? More like Metroid Crime. Since it should be illegal to do that badly in a match

I said yesterday Half-Life 2 needed 54% to have a shot at Metroid Prime. HL2 is far exceeding that number.
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:22:08 PM | message detail
I'm not sure what I think of HL2/Oblivion, really.

I'd take GoW and ToS over TTYD, so...
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:24:16 PM | message detail
TTYD vs. TOS is who knows. I'd pick Oblivion over FF12 easy, though. let's see how Mass Effect holds up vs. Portal and judge from there.
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EvilNcr | Posted 12/8/2010 2:24:18 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #110
What reason is there for Okami to be any different? Especially when it hasn't shown that it is.


Excuse me but 4-ways have been officially a complete joke ever since WoW's debacle. In a 4-way, its base is one very staunch voting block. In head to head, it's a complete joke.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:25:30 PM | message detail

From: transients | #126
TTYD vs. TOS is who knows. I'd pick Oblivion over FF12 easy, though. let's see how Mass Effect holds up vs. Portal and judge from there.


Does anyone think HL2/FFXII would be anywhere close anymore though?

I don't.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 2:25:59 PM | message detail
FF12 more like would lose to any GTA game

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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:26:16 PM | message detail
Excuse me but 4-ways have been officially a complete joke ever since WoW's debacle. In a 4-way, its base is one very staunch voting block. In head to head, it's a complete joke.

Of course one exception causes everything to break down. Screw x-stats they said CATS would defeat Ganondorf.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2010 2:26:38 PM | message detail
I think Mass Effect is going to get killed. Hopefully the day match will help assuage the suffering, but that strikes me as a weird case where Western SFF could be applicable.
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:26:45 PM | message detail
FF12 doesn't seem any worse than in 2009 to me. tough to say.
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EvilNcr | Posted 12/8/2010 2:27:27 PM | message detail
I don't either. I think Oblivion would beat H2 without that much trouble. Probably 53% or so.
Paper Mario proved it was pretty strong and Oblivion has looked as good as D2. And of course, there's the RPG factor. Always a good advantage.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:27:37 PM | message detail
Does anyone think HL2/FFXII would be anywhere close anymore though?

Nope, though at the same time I expect Portal to crush Mass Effect even worse than FFXII, time to show that people were thinking of the wrong Mass Effect when it came to predicting their brackets.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/8/2010 2:27:42 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #123
Metroid Prime? More like Metroid Crime. Since it should be illegal to do that badly in a match


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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:27:52 PM | message detail

From: transients | #132
FF12 doesn't seem any worse than in 2009 to me. tough to say.


I think it does. I don't think Portal's 60/40 result is all Portal boosting or anything close to that. HL2/Portal would be a close match, I think.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 2:28:21 PM | message detail
FF12 is definitely worse than in 2009 by a decent margin. I don't care how much stronger Portal is, 2009 FF12 doesn't get rolled 60-40 by it.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 2:29:20 PM | message detail
Hochi is awesome
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:29:30 PM | message detail
eh, I think Portal can hang with RE4 to a certain extent (as in, breaking 40% with ease). I don't think FF12 ever threatened to do anything like that, even in 2009. you can measure through TP if you want.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:30:58 PM | message detail
Oblivion has looked as good as D2.

Not sure about you, but I'd take HL2 > D2 as well.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:31:11 PM | message detail

From: transients | #139
I don't think FF12 ever threatened to do anything like that, even in 2009. you can measure through TP if you want.


FFXII got 37.68% against TP in 2009, so yeah, it'd get 38-39% on RE4 based on that.

And I think HL2 breaks 40% on RE4 with ease, too.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:32:46 PM | message detail
eh, I think Portal can hang with RE4 to a certain extent (as in, breaking 40% with ease). I don't think FF12 ever threatened to do anything like that, even in 2009. you can measure through TP if you want.

FFXII was pretty close to breaking 40% on RE4 last year even if you use RE4's best match on TP.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 2:32:52 PM | message detail

From: LeonhartFour | #141
FFXII got 37.68% against TP in 2009, so yeah, it'd get 38-39% on RE4 based on that.


LOL 4-way stats
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:33:34 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #143
LOL 4-way stats


Ulti, be quiet. I don't think FFXII would do that now or get anywhere close, and that's the point.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 2:34:00 PM | message detail
LOL 4-way stats

lol Ulti
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 2:34:03 PM | message detail
I'M AWARE OF THIS, THANK YOU
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:36:10 PM | message detail
HL2 beat MGS4? that's what you're looking at if you put it much above D2.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/8/2010 2:36:33 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #146
I'M AWARE OF THIS, THANK YOU


It's hard to tell with you sometimes!

Besides, I think it's pretty telling that a lot of the games that have looked much weaker 1-on-1 are the games with decent anti-fanbases (WoW, FFXII, MGS2, CoD4, if you like)
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/8/2010 2:37:23 PM | message detail

From: transients | #146
HL2 beat MGS4? that's what you're looking at if you put it much above D2.


HL2 > SotC > MGS4, lets do it
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transients | Posted 12/8/2010 2:37:41 PM | message detail
given the FF franchise voting we've seen in the past, it's possible that FF is just better in fourways. FF10 and 12 have definitely looked off.
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