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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 9:25:29 AM | message detail
Well that's an interesting number. Wonder how it works?



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A = Strongest Character
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To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:38:37 AM | message detail
Hi there.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 11:38:59 AM | message detail
One of these days I'll get my 'Play Nier' 500 post.

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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/8/2010 11:39:11 AM | message detail
What goofing up is he talking about, Luster? Is your final Halo > Final Fantasy 9 or something?

No, not that goofing up. With some of my brackets, I picked Brawl > FFX while I had Melee > FFX on some of my other brackets. The goofing up was related to when I filled out brackets on all of my accounts. Out of my 224 brackets, 178 of them were affected by a glitch in which most of my brackets claim to have 0 total points on them, despite the fact it was a fully completed bracket. If you want an example of this, look at this screenshot:

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It shows 0 points on the bracket. I filled out a feedback ticket a few weeks ago about this problem and I got this message back:

Message From GameFAQs on 11/18/2010

Problem is, and you've probably already realized this, you never actually visited the bracket page with any of those accounts. The first page visit triggers the creation of essential data, and without that, there's no contest entry.


He's right about that. When I filled out brackets on all of my accounts, I used a trick to speed up the process of filling out the brackets without viewing the bracket entry page (gotd_entry.html). At the time, I was not aware that using this trick would result in most of my brackets being useless. Now that I know this, I know of a way to still use that trick and also avoid having my brackets being useless. I just need to make sure that after filling all of my brackets out, I need to have all of my accounts view the bracket entry page at least once before the bracket entry phase closes.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:39:18 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #492
Isn't the US Metroid's biggest base?


It's Metroids ONLY fanbase. lol
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:39:38 AM | message detail
When I said "worried" I meant like, it's the only result like that that I'm worried about.

I'm more worried about MM than I am FFX. If GSC makes it that far, there's NO WAY it misses the finals.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:42:16 AM | message detail
Thanks for that, Luster. No seriously.

Wave_Wet_Sane is an awesome username.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:42:22 AM | message detail
Sand*
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pjbasis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:42:26 AM | message detail
For the first time, I think I want to see FFX beat something.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 11:43:22 AM | message detail
GSC can absolutely beat FFX if it gets that far. I'm more worried about Majora's Mask.

How can you be afraid of MM and still think it has a chance on FFX? FFX hasn't performed that badly.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:43:55 AM | message detail
Hah. I'm going to be RAVENOUS for an FFX loss after it does what it's gonna do to FFIX.

Worst SFF result in history upcoming. There is NO WAY FFIX loses to FFX in a sane world. Completely outclasses it in almost every way IMO.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:44:29 AM | message detail
Well that didn't take long to get overturned. One day, stalkers will realize they have no attainable way of getting under my skin.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:44:37 AM | message detail
Because there's a chance MM could rSFF that match. FFX's gonna have to beat GSC straight up.
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:45:09 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #009
For the first time, I think I want to see FFX beat something.


If it's Pokemon Gold sure. But i would love to see Majoras Mask>FFX.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:46:21 AM | message detail
9 is a great game, but a lot of its fans act like its flawless or something. X isn't flawless either, but at least there isn't massive loading times and having a named attack for EVERY SINGLE THING an enemy does.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:47:33 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #012
Well that didn't take long to get overturned. One day, stalkers will realize they have no attainable way of getting under my skin.


Except i did, otherwise you wouldn't have wrongly made a topic about me and insult me. Just admit you were wrong, is it hard to do?
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 11:48:54 AM | message detail
10 is a technically better game than 9 (this coming from someone who likes 9 more), but 9 doesn't deserve to get eaten alive by SFF like it will be.

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:49:08 AM | message detail
for me, the good in FFIX outweighed the bad a lot easier than it did with FFX.
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2010 11:49:16 AM | message detail
I don't think there's that much of a difference between FFX and Majora in a 1v1. I could easily see it being as close or closer than GoW/HL2 is now. That could be proven way wrong in a few days, but I think it will have a fine showing.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 11:50:29 AM | message detail
Because there's a chance MM could rSFF that match. FFX's gonna have to beat GSC straight up.

Why would rSFF be here, especially against Pokemon of all series. One day people will laugh when someone brings up rSFF.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:51:04 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #016
Except i did, otherwise you wouldn't have wrongly made a topic about me and insult me. Just admit you were wrong, is it hard to do?


How, by getting me modded before it was overturned a few minutes later? You can pretend you can get to me all you want, but it won't magically become true. I also always admit when I'm wrong :)
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:51:04 AM | message detail
IX is a pretty underrated game. Much better than X
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pjbasis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:52:23 AM | message detail
IX is not underrated at all.

X is just extremely overrated.
695924 | Posted 12/8/2010 11:52:27 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #022
IX is a pretty underrated game. Much better than X


When b8 loves a game, you know it's actually mediocre.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/8/2010 11:54:17 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #024
When b8 loves a game, you know it's actually mediocre.


I hope you're referring to X.
FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:54:40 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #021
How, by getting me modded before it was overturned a few minutes later? You can pretend you can get to me all you want, but it won't magically become true. I also always admit when I'm wrong :)


well i'll give you credit for learning from your mistakes. Also you were wrong because you accused me of making up that statement when i didn't. You also got moderated for the EXACT same thing in that topic as well. you even know you're wrong but clearly want to drag this out. so lets just forget about it.
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Big Bob | Posted 12/8/2010 11:54:54 AM | message detail
You know, now that we've got KHII/KH coming up, Melee/Brawl, and (possibly) MM/WW, it's time for me to retcon my Halo 3 > Halo 1 reasoning and twist it into something more reasonable.

The more I think about it, the more I realize that Halo 3 beating Halo 1 was actually pretty foolish. Saying it would win based off of 360 > Original is like saying Brawl will beat Melee simply because the Wii sold better than the Gamecube. Which is a legitimate argument, but not a substantial one.

The main reason is that Halo 1 kicked off the series, and Halo 3...what did Halo 3 do, exactly? It wasn't the first online Halo game (That's Halo 2). It wasn't the one that ended the series, considering we still have Halo Wars, Halo 3: ODST, and Halo: Reach. Hell, even if you had an Xbox 360 and wanted a shooter, there were also Gears of War and Call of Duty 4 to keep you occupied if you so chose. If Halo 3 indeed was your first Halo game, you would have no idea what the hell is going on, especially considering the game only really exists to wrap up the cliffhanger at the end of Halo 2. And indeed, that's the problem with most of the Halo games. ODST runs side by side with Halo 3, Reach is a prequel, and nobody likes Halo Wars. As a result, Halo 1 is the only game to really stand on its own, which is why it has the strength it does in this contest.

That said, even after all that, the best Halo 1 can do in a direct matchup is 57-43? With possible SFF in there? I guess a lot of people really do like the bigger and better game. Look out, Kingdom Hearts, look out, Melee.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 11:55:13 AM | message detail
FF7 is and always will be B8's favorite FF game. Don't let that early vote fool you. FF7 is near the top of every large-scale favorites list that gets compiled here.

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695924 | Posted 12/8/2010 11:55:21 AM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #025
I hope you're referring to X.


IX would 80-20 X on b8.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/8/2010 11:55:22 AM | message detail
No idea why FFX gets so much hate around here - good thing the site has a better view!

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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:55:26 AM | message detail
X's big problem is having one of the worst localization teams in history. X is as loved in Japan as 7 is in the USA, but voices can break a character really fast. Tidus and Yuna had such bad VAs here that X will always have a certain barrier that it will always be unable to break. The VAs did an outstanding job in Japan, which is why the game gets so much credit there.

But the gameplay? Absolutely outstanding, even for an RPG with random battles.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 11:56:14 AM | message detail
Yuna's voice is bad, but Tidus has one of the best voices in an RPG character. People just need to get past that he doesn't sound gruff and generic.

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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:56:30 AM | message detail

From: 695924 | #024
When b8 loves a game, you know it's actually mediocre.


And when b8 hates a game you know it's awesome(FF12)
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:58:37 AM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #026
well i'll give you credit for learning from your mistakes. Also you were wrong because you accused me of making up that statement when i didn't. You also got moderated for the EXACT same thing in that topic as well. you even know you're wrong but clearly want to drag this out. so lets just forget about it.


And those moderations were also overturned, because people like you who mark everything I post aren't aware what the ToU actually says before you do it. You just equip Ulti blinders and think text disappearing from a gaming forum at any cost gives you some magical victory over me or something. Never mind how it ruins your MMA or reputation. It's as predictable as the sun rising in the east.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 11:59:17 AM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #032
Yuna's voice is bad, but Tidus has one of the best voices in an RPG character. People just need to get past that he doesn't sound gruff and generic.


Balthier
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 11:59:26 AM | message detail
That's just it, KP. In Japan, he sounds almost as gruff as Auron.
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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/8/2010 12:00:33 PM | message detail

From: FFI3_Lightning | #033
And when b8 hates a game you know it's awesome(FF12)


Nope, sorry. FFXII really is that bad.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 12:01:13 PM | message detail
I agree, Ulti.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/8/2010 12:01:39 PM | message detail
Which means everyone on Board 8 must secretly love FFXII

>_>
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/8/2010 12:01:59 PM | message detail
*votes, checks results*

Not bad, HL2. I don't know about FO3, but I think it can make a match out of MP, day match or not.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 12:02:04 PM | message detail
He doesn't need to be. Tidus' voice is realistic, his emotions are realistic, and his readings are fine. Tidus' voice goes a long way to making him a good character.

The problem isn't the voice, it's some of the lines the voices are given. I guarantee Tidus beats Sub-Zero if the laughing scene never existed.

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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/8/2010 12:02:09 PM | message detail
FFXII being garbage is one of the few things where Ulti and I agree.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/8/2010 12:03:56 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #041
I guarantee Tidus beats Sub-Zero if the laughing scene never existed.


Let's not go nuts here. >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/8/2010 12:05:12 PM | message detail
You'd be surprised how easily a fanbase can blow on scene out of proportion. Laughing scene gets mentioned in like, every single FFX topic that's ever existed.

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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 12:05:41 PM | message detail
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 12:06:28 PM | message detail

From: Ultimaphazon | #042
FFXII being garbage is one of the few things where Ulti and I agree.


We agree on a lot, Twin <3
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 12:06:42 PM | message detail

From: Ultimaphazon | #037
Nope, sorry. FFXII really is that bad.


I disagree, but thanks for the apology.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 12:07:03 PM | message detail
Admitting you marked someone is trolling, FYI.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/8/2010 12:08:20 PM | message detail
It really never fails, everyone thinks we're the same user at a glance.
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FFI3_Lightning | Posted 12/8/2010 12:10:20 PM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #048
Admitting you marked someone is trolling, FYI.


I knew that, but seeing as though i am about 1 silly moderation away from getting 60 day suspension i better delete it. Mods still hate me from last weeks disaster.


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