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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2010 9:17:20 PM | message detail
I think creative has said that there is no difference between Metroid in a night match and Metroid in a day match. In a day match, they don't get the crazy early vote, but they also don't get hit by Europe/Asia. It's an equal tradeoff.

Not having the crazy early vote in a day match could be blamed on Europe having more influence at the start of a day match compared to the start of a night match.
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kinsho3 | Posted 12/7/2010 9:18:01 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #207
I think creative has said that there is no difference between Metroid in a night match and Metroid in a day match. In a day match, they don't get the crazy early vote, but they also don't get hit by Europe/Asia. It's an equal tradeoff.


Dammit, beat me to it.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2010 9:18:28 PM | message detail
Woah, HL2 is not breaking 54% tomorrow hoch-meister.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2010 9:18:56 PM | message detail
Yes, Half-Life 2 is breaking ALL THE PERCENTS

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AxemPink | Posted 12/7/2010 9:19:51 PM | message detail
...So if one assumes Okami pulls its percentage up a bit and Okami = Amaterasu, Metroid Prime = Luigi!

...How would we feel about Luigi making the semifinals?

>_>
Hochimihnister | Posted 12/7/2010 9:26:08 PM | message detail
HL2 did score a full 10% better on a Left 4 Dead game than God of War.
Haste_2 | Posted 12/7/2010 9:28:24 PM | message detail
Metroid has a really good early vote, but so does Okami...!!!! Then again, Okami's previous early votes were during the day.

In other words, hopefully Metroid will not bleed as much percentage as in previous matches. (though Okami has a strong night vote)

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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2010 9:29:09 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #306
HL2 did score a full 10% better on a Left 4 Dead game than God of War.


who knows how much of that was SFF.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/7/2010 9:30:04 PM | message detail
*I* know how much of it was SFF.
ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2010 9:33:14 PM | message detail

From: Hochimihnister | #309
*I* know how much of it was SFF.


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Chaotic Mind | Posted 12/7/2010 9:39:01 PM | message detail

From: WhiteLens | #292
Aww yeah, #28 on the contest leaderboard!

I'll probably lose it 2 days later for picking KH II, but at least I'm on!


Congrats! I'm #2 on the leaderboard (Xetherion is my account name from the merge with Gamespot), but i'm going to drop in a few days for picking KOTOR>FFIX. Man i hate myself for picking that stupid upset. If GSC beats Zelda i think i still have a shot at winning, but from their performances so far i think MM looks like the favorite now.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2010 9:39:06 PM | message detail
Updated Top 10

Top 10 Smallest Day Vote Gaps
1. Team Fortress 2 – 30893 vs. Fable – 30856 (R1) – 37
2. Shadow of the Colossus – 26975 vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 – 26930 (R2) – 45
3. Persona 4 – 23368 vs. Dead Rising – 23117 (R2) – 251
4. Morrowind – 25522 vs. Warcraft III – 25066 (R1) – 456
5. Deus Ex – 25117 vs. Rock Band 2 – 24365 (R1) – 752
6. Street Fighter IV – 27481 vs. Sonic Adventure 2 – 26673 (R1) – 808
7. Pokemon RSE – 30021 vs. Grand Theft Auto IV – 29113 (R1) – 908
8. Marvel vs. Capcom 2 – 26911 vs. New Super Mario Bros. Wii – 25287 (R1) – 1624
9. Halo – 28985 vs. Uncharted 2 – 25009 (R3) – 3976
10. Golden Sun – 30920 vs. GTA: San Andreas – 26674 (R2) – 4246

Top 10 Most Impressive Day Losers
1. Fable (R1) – 30856
2. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 29113
3. Metal Gear Solid 2 (R2) – 26930
4. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 26674
5. Sonic Adventure 2 (R1) – 26673
6. Paper Mario: TTYD (R2) – 25375
7. New Super Mario Bros. Wii (R1) – 25287
8. Warcraft III (R1) – 25066
9. Uncharted 2 (R3) – 25009
10. Rock Band 2 (R1) – 24365

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Predict
1. Paper Mario vs. World of Warcraft (R2) – 13.73%
2. Golden Sun vs. GTA: San Andreas (R2) – 16.05%
3. Pokemon RSE vs. Grand Theft Auto IV (R1) – 26.23%
4. Persona 4 vs. Dead Rising (R2) – 27.47%
5. Kingdom Hearts II vs. Bioshock (R2) – 29.25%
6. Paper Mario: TTYD vs. Gears of War (R1) – 29.33%
7. Halo vs. Uncharted 2 (R3) – 31.00%
8. Morrowind vs. Warcraft III (R1) – 32.76%
9. Okami vs. Mega Man 9 (R2) – 36.41%
10. Deus Ex vs. Rock Band 2 (R1) – 36.61%

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creativename | Posted 12/7/2010 9:58:01 PM | message detail
Haha, UC2 was actually leading Halo for a while?? Certainly didn't expect that. My god this board hates Halo!

Great to see trends back in action though. This contest was lacking day match trends for quite a while. Trends and big swings make things much more fun, as I'm sure red sox can agree with :)
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creativename | Posted 12/7/2010 10:05:05 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=4166&region=EUR

what in the hell
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2010 10:09:10 PM | message detail
Yesterday's chart:

Time | Uncharted 2 | Halo 1 | Votes
0:05 | 52.30% | 47.70% | 610
1:00 | 50.04% | 49.96% | 6225
2:00 | 48.20% | 51.80% | 5487
3:00 | 48.45% | 51.55% | 5001
4:00 | 46.92% | 53.08% | 5251
5:00 | 44.62% | 55.38% | 5359
6:00 | 45.16% | 54.84% | 5117
7:00 | 44.31% | 55.69% | 4636
8:00 | 42.92% | 57.08% | 4110
9:00 | 45.99% | 54.01% | 3638
10:00 | 45.38% | 54.62% | 3561
11:00 | 45.53% | 54.47% | 3123
12:00 | 45.49% | 54.51% | 2486

Welcome back, ASV. We've really missed you. At least UC2 won an hour, albeit barely.

Lower Half Stats

Halo: Combat Evolved – 50.00%
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves – 46.32%
Halo 3 – 43.08%
Street Fighter IV – 42.58%
Sonic Adventure 2 – 41.94%
Super Mario Sunshine – 40.90%
The Legend of Dragoon – 39.46%
Ninja Gaiden – 35.55%

Man, that ASV was insane. To think, SFIV and SA2 both started off decently ahead of Halo 3 here!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2010 10:10:57 PM | message detail
And some early stats based on the first hour:

Upper Half Stats

Metroid Prime – 50.00%
Okami – 39.11%
Devil May Cry 3 – 35.39%
Mega Man 9 – 34.17%
Demon’s Souls – 32.12%
Star Ocean: Till the End of Time – 26.66%
Mother 3 – 24.87%
No More Heroes – 22.36%

*takes off glasses*

My word, Mother 3's not going to be the weakest thing in this half!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2010 10:12:06 PM | message detail
Wait until Okami finishes the night vote to say that for sure. It's already started and Europe hasn't even really kicked in yet.

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-Tofa7- | Posted 12/7/2010 10:31:30 PM | message detail
Poor No More Heroes :(
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creativename | Posted 12/7/2010 10:36:16 PM | message detail

From: transients | #1105
I mean, unless it's Cloud/Sephiroth/Squall vs. the Gummi Ship or something


XD

That picture would be dubbed Gummi S***, in honor of Solid S***

Imagine the uproar if this actually happened.
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Hochimihnister | Posted 12/7/2010 10:36:21 PM | message detail
After seeing MM disappoint and WW bomb hardcore, it is patently clear Zelda has suffered an irrevocable drop in contest prowess. Twillight Princess may very well lose to KH/KHII.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2010 10:40:01 PM | message detail
TP losing was always possible, KH2 did get something like 48% last year.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2010 10:41:09 PM | message detail
MP has dropped in Europe over the past hour, Okami may even win there.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/7/2010 10:44:08 PM | message detail
Prime has to maintain at least 56.50% for Mother 3 > NMH to hold.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/7/2010 11:05:16 PM | message detail
Okami finally leads Europe.
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creativename | Posted 12/7/2010 11:09:10 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #1359
Starting and ending %s for the last two matches. Prime's board vote is just absurf.


Obviously a typo.

Clearly he meant absmurf!

From: KamikazePotato | #1457
I think creative has said that there is no difference between Metroid in a night match and Metroid in a day match. In a day match, they don't get the crazy early vote, but they also don't get hit by Europe/Asia. It's an equal tradeoff.


Yes there's virtually no day/night difference based on past 24 hour Prime matches. Prime probably does slightly better in the day because in 12 hour day matches those 24 hour early voters get to vote again, so 12 hour day Prime is probably better than 24 hour Prime/12 hour night Prime by a wee bit .

But the issue of course isn't Prime in day match, it's HL2 in a day match. HL2 is I believe very night oriented.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2010 11:16:31 PM | message detail
If HL2 makes it there, that would be a night match wouldn't it?

HL2/FO3 I mean
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transience | Posted 12/7/2010 11:17:48 PM | message detail
yep. Prime looks to be a serious favourite to beat HL2 at this point though (if it even makes it there)
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transience | Posted 12/7/2010 11:19:14 PM | message detail
man, MM9's probably going to be above DMC3 in the stats. what a pitiful year for Devil May Cry. no wonder it got snubbed from the last contest.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2010 11:20:44 PM | message detail
I wouldn't be too surprised to see GoW win tomorrow. That would truly eliminate me from the Guru I think.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2010 11:23:17 PM | message detail
I don't think God of War will even outperform GTAIII by that much.
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/7/2010 11:23:19 PM | message detail
Yeah, I think God of War might have a better shot at beating HL2 than HL2 does at MP X_X
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/7/2010 11:23:48 PM | message detail
http://kotaku.com/5708886/report-the-god-of-war-will-slaughter-mortal-kombat

Kratos is gonna be in Mortal Kombat! That's the second fighting game guest appearance he's made. One day he'll be MORE POPULAR THAN LINK
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2010 11:24:19 PM | message detail
I have absolutely no idea where this God of War faith in coming from. Remember that this is a game that is slightly stronger than ToS.

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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/7/2010 11:25:29 PM | message detail
And ToS could probably beat GTA3 >_>
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2010 11:26:19 PM | message detail
There's a difference between 'beat' and 'get 56% on'.

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red sox 777 | Posted 12/7/2010 11:26:51 PM | message detail
Oh, Hochi, you can't call everything Zelda does a failure. If you do that you lose credibility when we keep seeing Link defeat Cloud. Gotta limit the Zelda is doomed conclusions to matches where it actually did badly (all of Link's matches earlier this year).
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The n00b Avenger | Posted 12/7/2010 11:29:41 PM | message detail
Well come on. Even if ToS only beats GTA3 with 51%, that brings God of War Vs. HL2 to like, a 53.5/46.5 match,

I mean, come on that's not even an Ulti style blow out
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transience | Posted 12/7/2010 11:31:47 PM | message detail
let's not forget this is a day match too. if God of War were a game known for clutching out victories I'd probably switch sides here.
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creativename | Posted 12/7/2010 11:38:29 PM | message detail
Yeah, I don't understand why people having been hyping up GoW against HL2. It being a day match could mean HL2 looks bad, and it'll probably bleed a lot of percent during the ASV, but I just don't see GoW winning.

From: ZenOfThunder | #1652
http://kotaku.com/5708886/report-the-god-of-war-will-slaughter-mortal-kombat

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I am so much more interested in this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyuz4IB6Pbc

the epicness my god
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2010 11:39:07 PM | message detail
The God of War series hasn't even had a solid performance since it beat down Left4Dead in R1. It struggled with ToS before putting it away in the morning, and II has just been proven to be a good step below ACII, which I doubt most people would have anticipated before the contest. HL2's 56% on GTAIII shouldn't spell doom. Assuming III and Vice City are roughly equal (stop me I'm a madman), that percentage is almost exactly what the 2009 X-Stats between RE4 and HL2 predict.

If people are giving RE4 a plausible shot against FFX, then they can't frown at HL2's win over GTA. Just doesn't work.
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transience | Posted 12/7/2010 11:39:47 PM | message detail
would you take GTA3 over AC2?

I wouldn't!
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2010 11:40:21 PM | message detail
God of War does worse in the second half of the poll than the first, so I'm not sure why that's such a big advantage!

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2010 11:45:28 PM | message detail

From: transience | #341
would you take GTA3 over AC2?

I wouldn't!


I don't understand. ACII should be pretty close to God of War. Both Assassin's Creed games might be as strong or stronger.
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KamikazePotato | Posted 12/7/2010 11:47:44 PM | message detail
I think the real reason people are so down on GTA is because of Golden Sun.

All of this will be put to rest when Golden Suns cores 48% on FFX, just wait.

(Golden Sun would beat God of War)

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/7/2010 11:50:53 PM | message detail

From: KamikazePotato | #344
I think the real reason people are so down on GTA is because of Golden Sun.


I agree, and I advise caution (because this is the most important thing ever).

1. Golden Sun has given us no reason to doubt its legitimacy. It's kicked butt twice and could even look good against FFX. I wouldn't be surprised.
2. Between the match pic and game release, I think that match was at least semi-flukey. I'd look at any other GTA match before that one.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/7/2010 11:55:10 PM | message detail
All of this will be put to rest when Golden Suns cores 58% on FFX, just wait.

fixed
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tgs2 | Posted 12/8/2010 12:27:08 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #346
All of this will be put to rest when Golden Suns cores 58% on FFX, just wait.

fixed


European Release Factor
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/8/2010 1:35:10 AM | message detail
Okami gets in a cut. I am proud.

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Ultimaphazon | Posted 12/8/2010 2:51:23 AM | message detail
Man, that Prime nightvote is really something different.
When I first checked the poll 4 hours ago, Prime was over 60%. It will soon drop below 58%.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/8/2010 3:58:13 AM | message detail
Well less than 33% for Halo as I said.Still it wasn't too bad.I guess I should had more faith in the 2 seed.
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