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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/5/2010 10:19:26 AM | message detail

From: BlAcK TuRtLe | #249
lol suckemon

It can barely outdo MM's percentage on CC, against a weaker game it has every reason to SFF. Can't believe G/S/C was the board consensus out of this division.


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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/5/2010 10:28:31 AM | message detail
If this hangs out above 70% for the rest of the match, I think you have to call Pokemon the favorite next round.

Not XMFD POKEMON IS GOING TO GODSTOMP LMAO!, but it should be able to edge Zelda out.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/5/2010 10:30:27 AM | message detail
Is there a way to know which entries are actually eligible for prizes? If both guys ahead of me are only karma entries then there is little reason to risk anything on TTYD, correct?

I don't think there is until the end, but historically, the overall #1 and the contest #1 at the end of the contest have been the same for every contest except Palmer's win, I think. If not, it's pretty close to that.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/5/2010 10:39:51 AM | message detail

From: The Mana Sword | #252
If this hangs out above 70% for the rest of the match, I think you have to call Pokemon the favorite next round.


Have to? Why? I think most people here would take CC over Mario Kart Wii. There's no way anyone would have taken Mario Kart after the stinker it laid in R1 (coupled with CC's comparatively good performance). Majora also had its worse timeframe and no SFF advantage. I really don't see a favorite.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/5/2010 10:47:30 AM | message detail
Both games did good, but they really don't say anything either way. Just one more fun R3 match.
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The Mana Sword | Posted 12/5/2010 10:47:51 AM | message detail
Because I said so.

As much as I'd like to go and say Chrono Cross had a relatively good performance Round 1, we really don't know that for sure because Dragon Quest 8 is a total unknown. And Zelda's still going to get its worst timeframe next round.

I'm not saying this is a stone cold lock or anything, but I feel like Pokemon has the slight advantage going into the match.
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ExThaNemesis | Posted 12/5/2010 10:49:47 AM | message detail
I will say that I expected a bit more from GSC here, and especially last round.

It just doesn't make sense to me that this game hasn't been a world killer so far, when this game has every reason to be one at this point.
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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/5/2010 10:57:17 AM | message detail

From: ExThaNemesis | #257
I will say that I expected a bit more from GSC here, and especially last round.

It just doesn't make sense to me that this game hasn't been a world killer so far, when this game has every reason to be one at this point.


You say this like Mario Kart isn't a strong series.
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kinsho3 | Posted 12/5/2010 10:58:45 AM | message detail
The one thing that still gives me hope is the Pokemon fanbase. I say the Pokemon fanbase is the largest fanbase on the site (Zelda just wins more casuals) and that, erratic as it is, it usually comes through for Pokemon in tough matches. Not to mention the UK will have quite a big role as well in that match...
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/5/2010 10:59:54 AM | message detail

From: UltimaterializerX | #258
You say this like Mario Kart isn't a strong series.


It struggled with PW, for Christ's sake. MKWii is s***
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/5/2010 11:01:09 AM | message detail
It's cliche, but I kind of thought Pokemon would have difficulties pulling off big blowouts. There's still people who hate Pokemon, and even if they don't actively hate it anymore, that doesn't mean they were ever fans of it. Pokemon is not universal in the way that Zelda or Mario is universal, where everyone at least respects it.

Majora's Mask (and Wind Waker) has done very well for itself this contest. I still see it as the underdog because of that match last year. It beat GSC around 53/47, and GSC lost about 10% against MGS from the previous round due to LFF. Cut that in half because MM must have suffered from Triple Nintendo LFF as well, and because FFT probably hurt MGS some the previous round, and we get a GS victory with around 52-53%, which seems reasonabe. So yeah, MM has a chance, but I still feel pretty good about GSC.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/5/2010 11:06:13 AM | message detail
I just keep on wondering how ironic it would be if I got through that SotC match and then lost everything on this Paper Mario match. We don't even know that PM has a better day vote than Oblivion. That would be a fair assumption (Mario > almost anything) but comparing how they did against WoW during the day seems to make things pretty close.
muji25 | Posted 12/5/2010 11:38:10 AM | message detail
i just want to know how 16 people have 0 points....i mean the first 64 votes you have a 50% chance of getting it right even if you're just guessing.
charmander6000 | Posted 12/5/2010 11:40:46 AM | message detail
i just want to know how 16 people have 0 points....i mean the first 64 votes you have a 50% chance of getting it right even if you're just guessing.

Those are incomplete brackets, though sometimes people submit a bracket trying to get 0 points (this is not the case)
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vcharon | Posted 12/5/2010 11:41:19 AM | message detail
I'm still feeling good with MM taking GSC down.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/5/2010 11:44:50 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #260
It struggled with PW, for Christ's sake. MKWii is s***


the wii itself is rubbish. mario kart 64 would avoid being doubled.
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 12/5/2010 11:51:17 AM | message detail
Nobody even likes MKWii. I'm still amazed it got a higher than MKDS.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 11:56:55 AM | message detail
Huh, PW is on pace to finish lower in the stats than Advance Wars. I feel like PW/AW pre-contest would've been overwhelmingly in favor of PW.

Of course, there's a chance G/S/C's getting a little SFF, so I'd probably still pick PW, but man. Phoenix can't catch a break one-on-one!
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:00:19 PM | message detail
Last night's chart:

Time | LOZ: MM | C. Cross | Votes
0:05 | 74.12% | 25.58% | 989
1:00 | 69.78% | 30.22% | 7996
2:00 | 67.15% | 32.85% | 5355
3:00 | 67.48% | 32.52% | 3915
4:00 | 65.06% | 34.94% | 3034
5:00 | 63.49% | 36.51% | 2591
6:00 | 64.57% | 35.43% | 2340
7:00 | 64.33% | 35.67% | 2164
8:00 | 65.06% | 34.94% | 2381
9:00 | 66.75% | 33.25% | 2833
10:00 | 67.22% | 32.78% | 3408
11:00 | 66.82% | 33.18% | 4038
12:00 | 69.75% | 30.25% | 4070

MM has a strong first hour and a strong final hour. CC does well during the Euro vote despite never being released there because apparently "Game I never played" > Zelda to many Europeans.

Northwest Division

First Quarter

The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask – 50.00%
Chrono Cross – 32.90%
Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King – 25.08%
Wii Sports – 16.60%

Wii Sports is expected to get 33.09% on DQVIII and 25.23% on CC.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 12/5/2010 12:00:46 PM | message detail
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__Smurf__ | Posted 12/5/2010 12:01:52 PM | message detail
Oh get lost with that crap, Mario Kart Wii did online and it did it well. In a series that never changes itself drastically for each edition that alone makes it a significant and worthwhile sequel. To say "nobody likes it" is downright idiocy when it's been specifically nominated, won two rounds of matches and is comfortably resisting a tripling through SFF as a freaking racing game against one of the most beloved rpgs of all time.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:06:30 PM | message detail

From: __Smurf__ | #271
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/5/2010 12:07:23 PM | message detail
If you make the PW equal TP would get 57.72% on GSC, it'll probably be slightly closer since MKWii was stuck with PW at night.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:08:40 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #273
If you make the PW equal TP would get 57.72% on GSC, it'll probably be slightly closer since MKWii was stuck with PW at night.


I don't really have a problem with this.

But then again, I'm a believer in TP's strength, so whatever.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/5/2010 12:08:43 PM | message detail
I'm with Smurf here Mario Kart Wi is a great game, and it has done quite well in this. Also I think that MKWii would defeat MKDS.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/5/2010 12:10:13 PM | message detail
But then again, I'm a believer in TP's strength, so whatever.

Same here, though it does suggest that GSC is probably not going to defeat FFX, but then again that was an upset pick.

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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/5/2010 12:11:24 PM | message detail
Smurf, have you tried online MKWii with people in the States? My little cousin in Germany has it and I think it'd be a lot of fun to play with him, but I'm worried the lag might be awful.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:15:45 PM | message detail

From: charmander6000 | #276
though it does suggest that GSC is probably not going to defeat FFX


Ahem.

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Advokaiser | Posted 12/5/2010 12:18:54 PM | message detail
It's funny to see how what seemed to be the most hated (mainline) Zelda game (aside from Zelda II) actually turned out to be really strong in this contest. It's just as surprising as watching the MGS franchise drop down so much.

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/5/2010 12:18:59 PM | message detail
Out of curiosity...what's the pic theme for next round? With GSC's pics so far, I'm really hoping the theme allows for some Fierce Deity Link to give MM SOMETHING to fight back against GSC's pic advantage.
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Assassin_Thane | Posted 12/5/2010 12:19:10 PM | message detail
sotc winning yesterday made me believe that there is still one or more upsets to be had, even in late stages. is majora over pokemon huge upset? what about metroid over half life? i believe these upsets may happen.
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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/5/2010 12:20:02 PM | message detail

From: Advokaiser | #279
It's funny to see how what seemed to be the most hated (mainline) Zelda game (aside from Zelda II) actually turned out to be really strong in this contest. It's just as surprising as watching the MGS franchise drop down so much.


MM is NOT hated. That's like trying to argue FF8 is hated, when it's not. You want a hated big franchise game, look at FFXII. MM just has a bunch of anti-fanboys.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/5/2010 12:21:38 PM | message detail
I don't think FFXII is hated necessarily.
At least not anymore than FFVIII or something.

It just has a lot of apathy as opposed to love to balance it out.
KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/5/2010 12:22:46 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #283
I don't think FFXII is hated necessarily.
At least not anymore than FFVIII or something.

It just has a lot of apathy as opposed to love to balance it out.


Which means it's hated. Anyone who thinks FF8/MM are hated while FFXII is not is...yeah. It's one of the most ass-backwards things I've heard in a long time.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/5/2010 12:23:55 PM | message detail
I thought he was talking about TP. You can't see to go to any Zelda board without people spouting venom at its name. And yet its also the third strongest Zelda game, maybe the third strongest game in this contest.
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/5/2010 12:26:43 PM | message detail
It's funny to see how what seemed to be the most hated (mainline) Zelda game (aside from Zelda II) actually turned out to be really strong in this contest. It's just as surprising as watching the MGS franchise drop down so much.


MM is NOT hated. That's like trying to argue FF8 is hated, when it's not. You want a hated big franchise game, look at FFXII. MM just has a bunch of anti-fanboys.



Who's talking about MM? I was talking about Twilight Princess. People bashed that game because it wasn't Ocarina of Time and it just wasn't original overall.

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KanzarisKelshen | Posted 12/5/2010 12:27:23 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #285
I thought he was talking about TP. You can't see to go to any Zelda board without people spouting venom at its name. And yet its also the third strongest Zelda game, maybe the third strongest game in this contest.


TP isn't hated either. It doesn't have the mad love of OoT because it doesn't have 'it', for lack of a better term. In eight years, people won't be going "BAH GAWD THE GAME OF MY CHILDHOOD", but they certainly won't think of it as trash. The silent majority rather likes it.
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SuperWhiscash | Posted 12/5/2010 12:28:07 PM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #285
I thought he was talking about TP. You can't see to go to any Zelda board without people spouting venom at its name. And yet its also the third strongest Zelda game, maybe the third strongest game in this contest.


That's because it's the most recent big Zelda. they'll all like it after SS.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:28:21 PM | message detail

From: pjbasis | #283
I don't think FFXII is hated necessarily.
At least not anymore than FFVIII or something.

It just has a lot of apathy as opposed to love to balance it out.


Eh, you don't lose 60/40 to Portal and only get 55% on a PSP spinoff without a decent sized contingent that hates you.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/5/2010 12:29:20 PM | message detail

From: PartOfYourWorld | #277
Smurf, have you tried online MKWii with people in the States? My little cousin in Germany has it and I think it'd be a lot of fun to play with him, but I'm worried the lag might be awful.


I've played with people from the states and I'm european and it didn't lag.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:29:54 PM | message detail
And I don't know where this "People hate TP" stuff comes from. Yeah, it wasn't the game of the ever like it was hyped to be, but I don't know what else this game has to do to prove it's strong and well-liked!

Well, I know where it comes from. It comes from listening to Board 8. Board 8 tends to give you a skewed perspective on what the general population really thinks!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/5/2010 12:31:12 PM | message detail
I'm just saying, ya go to Zelda Informer, GameFAQs' Skyward Sword board, Zelda Universe, or even ask some of the Zelda fans like MWC or Yo, and everybody seems to dislike TP; which again is odd seeing how critically and commercially successful it was and how strong it is on the GameFAQs polls.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:33:10 PM | message detail
Well, it's just like Brawl. Haters are always louder.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/5/2010 12:34:46 PM | message detail
^Good point, Leon. I'm sure I could find countless examples of Brawl hate, and yet its still pretty damn strong.
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charmander6000 | Posted 12/5/2010 12:35:31 PM | message detail
Yeah this is like BT going I have 20 friends that say that they dislike something.

TP is not hated any more than OoT.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/5/2010 12:39:09 PM | message detail
TP isn't hated, but it isn't loved either. It's got a firm hold on being the #3 Zelda, but it can't match both the fanboyism and general liking among the public that LTTP and especially OOT have. It's quite different from Brawl really- Brawl is HATED, and people genuinely think it's a horrible game. People who don't like TP usually just think it falls short of OOT.
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__Smurf__ | Posted 12/5/2010 12:39:44 PM | message detail
"Smurf, have you tried online MKWii with people in the States? My little cousin in Germany has it and I think it'd be a lot of fun to play with him, but I'm worried the lag might be awful."

Yeah all the time, it's perfect. The whole distance thing was only raised as an issue with Brawl because its a downright awful online service, MK:Wii online is done fantastically well (its a service comparable to that of a Ps3/360 game and that on the Wii is "fantastically well" in my books. ^_^ ). I've played loads of american board 8'ers with it and never had any problems, I used to be on a 1mb connection when I was playing that too.
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Advokaiser | Posted 12/5/2010 12:41:20 PM | message detail
Pre-contest I thought MM and WW were just as strong as TP, if not slightly stronger. The only things I hear nowadays are that MM and WW are soooo underrated and that TP is soooo overrated. When people compare TP with the rest of the franchise, they say that it's the most bland and unoriginal game of the franchise and that MM and WW at least tried to be different. And the love for the latter games just appears to be bigger and bigger as time passes...

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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/5/2010 12:41:47 PM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #296
TP isn't hated, but it isn't loved either. It's got a firm hold on being the #3 Zelda


Yeah, these two statements don't really mesh. You don't get to be the 3rd most popular entry in a series without getting plenty of love. I mean, yeah, you don't have a lot of open gushing like you get with OoT or LTTP, but...

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised to see TP give LTTP all it could handle 1-on-1. I think it'd be a sexy upset pick, even.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/5/2010 12:42:38 PM | message detail
As for Board 8 not appreciating TP's strength, most people here favored it over FFX in a hypothetical match for a long time, until the Deboost in 2008. Even now I think most people would give it a good shot at beating FFX, but many don't want to say it because we don't like how Zelda beats Final Fantasy in every generation, every matchup, every year, etc.
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