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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/4/2010 9:14:21 AM | message detail
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~*Character Contest Histories*~
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~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

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~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

Noble Nine - Link, Cloud, Solid Snake, Queen Sephiroth, Mario, Crono, Sonic, Samus and Mega Man
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:17:30 AM | message detail
Let it be known:

Melee > Brawl
Chrono Trigger > FFX, SMW, SMB3, etc.
Crono > Mario
Goldeneye is a top 10 game.
Link > Your favorite character
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Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 12/4/2010 9:18:14 AM | message detail
Somehow this result confirms Melee > Brawl

I don't know how but it does
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/4/2010 9:18:59 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #002
Chrono Trigger > FFX, SMW, SMB3, etc.


Oh, red sox
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/4/2010 9:24:14 AM | message detail

From: Regaro_Ukiera | #003
Somehow this result confirms Melee > Brawl

I don't know how but it does


Brawl couldn't break 55% on SotC, while Melee does based on the totally relevant 2004 stats!

Brawl is so screwed.
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:24:58 AM | message detail
Let it also be proclaimed:

Samus was SFF'd by Link in 2003.
WDF is not real (but Link/Mario SFF in 2002 is).
Brawl is an objectively bad game, despite it being impossible for any game to be objectively bad. This game is so bad that it did the impossible.
Old Games > New Games (and N64/PS > SNES > GC/Xbox/PS2 > NES > Wii/PS3/360)
Link deserves every last one of his contest wins, and it's an outrage this site didn't vote him their champion TWICE.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/4/2010 9:26:21 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #006
NES > Wii/PS3/360


Oh, red sox
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red sox 777 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:32:30 AM | message detail
Yeah, that one is really questionable. It's clear the average current gen game stomps the average NES game. I was thinking that SMB3 would beat any current gen game, but I forgot about Brawl when writing that.

But.....Brawl would get 60-40'd by Melee, right? YES INDEED. So forget that, SMB3 > Brawl and NES > Wii yes.
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/4/2010 9:33:51 AM | message detail
Oh, I guess you meant like, GameFAQs nostalgia-based voting patterns, and not "NES games are better than Wii/PS3/360 games"

I won't argue that!
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TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 12/4/2010 9:38:42 AM | message detail
For the record, Persona is more "hipster" than SotC.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/4/2010 9:38:48 AM | message detail

From: red sox 777 | #342
There's another explanation: whatever drop MGS may have taken came between the character battle and now. That contest was roughly halfway between the last games contest and this one.


Bingo
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vcharon | Posted 12/4/2010 9:39:26 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #010
For the record, Persona is more "hipster" than SotC.


RPG though, that makes it okay.
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vcharon | Posted 12/4/2010 9:40:02 AM | message detail
NA percentage is higher for SotC than World.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:40:06 AM | message detail
How many of the Gurus had MGS 2 support?
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Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:40:35 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #010
For the record, Persona is more "hipster" than SotC.


Persona 3/4 are RPGs that happen to be niche, but outdo every other game in its genre in terms of story and gameplay outside of combat, which can go either way.

Shadow of the Colossus is a boss rush that relies on the "artsy" aspects to get praise, even though the game itself is underwhelming.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/4/2010 9:40:43 AM | message detail
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/4/2010 9:41:05 AM | message detail
I wouldn't argue against NES > Wii.

SMB3 > Galaxy 1 or 2.
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xp1337 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:41:09 AM | message detail
...Well then. I guess my new goal for the Battle Challenge is to beat Bacon again. Well, that shouldn't be too hard.
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GotD (101/118) MGS2 v SotC
Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:41:18 AM | message detail
Get a haircut, SotC
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MegatokyoEd | Posted 12/4/2010 9:41:44 AM | message detail
Looks like I won't have to worry about whether to bank or not at KH/KH2. >_>
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Big Bob | Posted 12/4/2010 9:42:02 AM | message detail
I had faith in you Wander. Guru, Oracle, Battle Bracket...I'm so proud. ;_;
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Kamekguy | Posted 12/4/2010 9:42:20 AM | message detail
Nah even as a guy who tries to pick up hipster chicks with my awesome Persona 4 creds while I up their social links, P4 is, like, the most hipster thing imaginable for the most part, from a style standpoint.

SotC is more like pretentious snobby upper-crust type of college students who are too hip to be hipsters.
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Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/4/2010 9:42:21 AM | message detail
Atmosphere can be just as important to a game as gameplay. Else, RPGs wouldn't be nearly as relevant. Look at how FF7's atmosphere drew in a ****load of gamers to the game and the genre itself.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/4/2010 9:42:45 AM | message detail
How butthurt will Ulti be after this one?

MGS2 is the best MGS game, but SotC is amazing
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xp1337 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:43:14 AM | message detail
From: MegatokyoEd | #020
Looks like I won't have to worry about whether to bank or not at KH/KH2. >_>

I was telling myself last night that I doomed MGS2 when I wasted the time trying to analyze banking strategies regarding KH/KH2 because fate would just decide to eliminate my battle challenge right here instead. >_>
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GotD (101/118) MGS2 v SotC
FourthDeus | Posted 12/4/2010 9:43:25 AM | message detail
Glad to see SotC doing well. Still don't expect it to win, but with it being the best PS2 exclusive ever made, it deserves a respectable showing.
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xp1337 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:44:42 AM | message detail
Still don't expect it to win

How does MGS2 come back from this?

Serious question, like I said, I can't recall MGS trends clearly, but I thought they were bad news for MGS2.
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GotD (101/118) MGS2 v SotC
_fooImoron_ | Posted 12/4/2010 9:44:48 AM | message detail

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #010
For the record, Persona is more "hipster" than SotC.


ARguable. Persona has deep and compelling gameplay that can be pleasing to any RPG fan. And it's also pretty popular (in Japan at least). SotC doesn't have nearly as much general appeal.

I think the trick is that Persona is "Japanese hipster", which doesn't translate to western-style hipster very well.
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Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:45:21 AM | message detail

From: Kamekguy | #022
Nah even as a guy who tries to pick up hipster chicks with my awesome Persona 4 creds while I up their social links, P4 is, like, the most hipster thing imaginable for the most part, from a style standpoint.

SotC is more like pretentious snobby upper-crust type of college students who are too hip to be hipsters.


You don't play persona 4 because it's obscure and stuff, you play because of character interactions and intriguing game design.

What would you tell a person if you wanted them to play SotC?
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:45:34 AM | message detail
Casuals beat this board badly it seems.I wonder what the percentages shall be?
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xp1337 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:45:47 AM | message detail
Ahahaha, MGS2 cutting right after I basically start calling the match.

=(
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GotD (101/118) MGS2 v SotC
Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:45:53 AM | message detail
Looks like the hipsters are too busy toying with the guitar mom bought them last christmas
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Big Bob | Posted 12/4/2010 9:46:18 AM | message detail
Crap, stop that, MGS.
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BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 12/4/2010 9:46:28 AM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #029
You don't play persona 4 because it's obscure and stuff, you play because of character interactions and intriguing game design.

What would you tell a person if you wanted them to play SotC?


Could have sworn I had this assclown on my ignore list
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FourthDeus | Posted 12/4/2010 9:46:38 AM | message detail
I'd tell them that it is one of the purest, most entertaining single player gaming experiences they'll ever have.
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ZenOfThunder | Posted 12/4/2010 9:46:55 AM | message detail
this is a good match, and I don't even like SotC at all
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Kamekguy | Posted 12/4/2010 9:47:18 AM | message detail
Same thing I would tell them if I wanted to play Persona 4.

"Check this out it's really freaking different you might or might not connect but it has a high chance of being one of your favorite games if you really click with it. And there's an awesome <horse/bear> in it!"

And then I'd make some line about tentacle rape or telling people to get bent and would have a good laugh about it.
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pjbasis | Posted 12/4/2010 9:47:41 AM | message detail
What the f*** is this, I don't even this contest
Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:47:49 AM | message detail

From: FourthDeus | #035
I'd tell them that it is one of the purest, most entertaining single player gaming experiences they'll ever have.


Why?

The gameplay?

The story?

The framerate?
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695924 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:48:51 AM | message detail

From: FourthDeus | #026
Glad to see SotC doing well. Still don't expect it to win, but with it being the best PS2 exclusive ever made, it deserves a respectable showing.


Lol. The best PS2 exclusive is going to the finals.
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/4/2010 9:48:55 AM | message detail
I would tell them that you get to fight huge beasts, except with some differences from God of War:

-They're even bigger!
-Gameplay is much slower.
-You have to use the environment to figure out how to get on the beast, then you must scale it until you get to its weak point, whilst holding on for dear life. Thinking man's game indeed.
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xp1337 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:49:55 AM | message detail
From: 695924 | #040
Lol. The best PS2 exclusive is going to the finals.

The best PS2 exclusive was eliminated in the vote-ins!
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GotD (101/118) MGS2 v SotC
FourthDeus | Posted 12/4/2010 9:49:59 AM | message detail
The gameplay and the atmosphere.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/4/2010 9:50:18 AM | message detail
*arrives home*

*checks poll*

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Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:50:24 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #041
I would tell them that you get to fight huge beasts, except with some differences from God of War:

-They're even bigger!
-Gameplay is much slower.
-You have to use the environment to figure out how to get on the beast, then you must scale it until you get to its weak point, whilst holding on for dear life. Thinking man's game indeed.


Would you tell them that that's literally the entire game with nothing else to do except ride your cool horse for 10 minutes+?
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vcharon | Posted 12/4/2010 9:50:36 AM | message detail

From: LinkMarioSamus | #041
I would tell them that you get to fight huge beasts, except with some differences from God of War:

-They're even bigger!
-Gameplay is much slower.
-You have to use the environment to figure out how to get on the beast, then you must scale it until you get to its weak point, whilst holding on for dear life. Thinking man's game indeed.


Think BAD! Uggga, shoot thing GUD!
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Djungelurban | Posted 12/4/2010 9:50:46 AM | message detail

From: Biolizard28 | #039
The gameplay?


YES!

From: Biolizard28 | #039
The story?


YES!

From: Biolizard28 | #039
The framerate?


Oh would you cut it out?
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LinkMarioSamus | Posted 12/4/2010 9:50:56 AM | message detail
Lol 1 vote cut.
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Denzokuken | Posted 12/4/2010 9:51:15 AM | message detail
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Biolizard28 | Posted 12/4/2010 9:51:31 AM | message detail
At least one SotC fan was spending too much time listening to some indie band I've never heard of
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