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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 962
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 10:39:00 AM | message detail |
From: Assassin_Thane | #449 Why do people think thousand year door is stronger. It was on gc pm was on n64 I think it's stronger and oblivion is close to fallout 3 I won't rule out PM > TTYD, but no way Oblivion is close to Fallout 3. If it was, it'd be a lock to reach the Division Finals. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 10:42:38 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #450 Why do you think the Paper Mario series is worth anything on here? I mean, it's a low midcarder at best. Oblivion already proved it's a really strong game last contest, and I don't see how anything could have changed from then until now. Because it's Nintendo and it's a JRPG in a day match. Those are all things I count as intangibles in TTYD's favor. And I wouldn't call Oblivion "really strong." I'd call it a midcarder. I readily admit that Oblivion just has to be viewed as the favorite, but I just can't shake the feeling this has trap written all over it. But of course, I also thought Persona 4 was in very little trouble and spent the time instead agonizing over FFXII/Portal, so again, my worries aren't necessarily the most credible thing. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 10:42:50 AM | message detail |
Oblivion
can reach the Quarter Finals depending on if GSC sucks as much as it
showed in the first round. I definitely see Oblivion/WW going either
way, and both should beat Majora's Mask easily enough. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 10:45:38 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #453 Oblivion can reach the Quarter Finals depending on if GSC sucks as much as it showed in the first round. I definitely see Oblivion/WW going either way, and both should beat Majora's Mask easily enough. ...And this is where we're going to disagree. I have no doubt in my mind that the MM/GSC winner walks away with the division without any significant resistance. I also think WW will beat Oblivion and am pretty confident about it, but I wouldn't rule out Oblivion there, however I don't see either having a chance against the MM/GSC survivor. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
WhiteLens | Posted 12/3/2010 10:46:36 AM | message detail |
Though in a way of how I see it, taking TTYD > Oblivion is pretty like much saying TTYD > ToS, would you take that? --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=207 |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 10:48:46 AM | message detail |
From: WhiteLens | #455 Though in a way of how I see it, taking TTYD > Oblivion is pretty like much saying TTYD > ToS, would you take that? ...Probably not. Again, like I said, logically, I know Oblivion should be favored, I just can't shake the feeling that things are lining up for an upset though. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 10:50:59 AM | message detail |
Why do you think Majora's Mask is that strong? --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/3/2010 10:51:25 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #453 No way. All three bigtendo games in that division would take it easy. --- Yoblazer: http://i44.tinypic.com/5nw45i.jpg Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
tgs2 | Posted 12/3/2010 10:51:46 AM | message detail |
From: WhiteLens | #455 People were saying this about Golden Sun a couple weeks ago. Just saying. It's not wise to tempt fate again here. --- You may take Mr. Rogers down, but I will be back and become more powerful than you ever imagine "tgs is taking it alone" |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/3/2010 10:52:37 AM | message detail |
Yeah, Oblivion's got no chance to go that far. Pre-contest I'd have entertained it, but ZELDA has been doing too damn well. Should beat TTYD fine, but Wind Waker is going to be tough. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
transience | Posted 12/3/2010 10:53:12 AM | message detail |
this Paper Mario hype is a bit much. --- xyzzy |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 10:54:24 AM | message detail |
I
have WW > Oblivion in my bracket and I believe that will be the
result, but I do see it being a 54/46 match at the max, more likely a
52/48 match. If Oblivion does beat WW, then the only competition is GSC. If GSC has been boosted than it most likely wins, but I'm not calling it until it proves that claim in its next match. --- Good Times, Great Memories |
WhiteLens | Posted 12/3/2010 10:55:38 AM | message detail |
From: tgs2 | #459 Well I would take GS > R/S/E... ....but Nintendo RPGs have been doing quite well in this contest. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=207 |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 10:56:30 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #457 Why do you think Majora's Mask is that strong? Because this is ZeldaFAQs. Seriously though, I always felt MM > WW, and since R1 did nothing to change my view on that (Granted, Wii Sports is just lol) and since I think WW > Oblivion, there's no one else left to contest the division. I'm not really basing any of this on hard stats, I don't think that's even possible. There not any good data for either game, is there? Other than going to Spring 2004 for WW, that is, which being over 6 years old, is not good data anymore. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/3/2010 10:58:06 AM | message detail |
Chrono Cross is going to beat Majora's Mask anyway. ... --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 10:58:37 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #450 I dunno if I'd say "really strong." Solid midcarder, sure, but I mean, the game got like 53% on Tales of Symphonia and didn't beat WoW by all that much (although WoW was certainly stronger in the 4-way format). TTYD scares me for some reason, although I know I shouldn't be worried about it. Why are we confident it's stronger than the original anyway? --- Support Morrigan Aensland (Darkstalkers) for Character Battle IX! http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9302/banner5morrigan2.jpg |
WhiteLens | Posted 12/3/2010 10:58:47 AM | message detail |
Man,
now I really regret taking my joke pick of AC > WoW, if only I had 1
more point I'd have a lot better chance of appearing on the leaderboard
after this match. --- http://thengamer.com/guru/bracket.php?id=207 |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 10:58:59 AM | message detail |
MM
is the weakest 3D Zelda game. WW was hated for its graphics before it
came out, but is mostly loved now (other than triforce shards and
sailing). MM has always been the blacksheep of the 3D console Zelda
family and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Of course, this is based off of real-world facts and GameFAQs a lot of times is completely opposite of that, so we'll see. I just don't see it being possible. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
The Mana Sword | Posted 12/3/2010 10:59:41 AM | message detail |
Who's confident that TTYD is stronger than the original? I'm pretty confident that it's not. --- This is the kind of **** that allowed the Bhopal incident to happen. 5,000 dead Indians. Want that on your damn conscience, Square apologists? |
PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/3/2010 11:01:20 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #462 Why? Zelda just killed God of War II so much worse than Oblivion beat the original last year, and Zelda did that in an obviously disadvantaged time frame. It'll get Oblivion in the day. Zelda has been mauling everything this contest, and watching TP get within a stone's throw of 70% on Dragon Age has only lessened my confidence in Oblivion giving WW a respectable fight. --- Yoblazer: http://i33.tinypic.com/ml36gl_th.gif Watch and you'll see... some day I'll be... part of your world! |
Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/3/2010 11:02:06 AM | message detail |
TTYD
could easily be stronger than PM. It sold a lot more, and is considered
the better game by the fanbase. And yes, this match just makes me feel
more confident. Oblivion is going down. No longer on the PM>MGS3 upset train choo choo but it should be close judging from this. Maybe if it were a day match. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 11:03:45 AM | message detail |
WW
is a lot weaker than TP, God of War II is much weaker than God of War,
and Oblivion is one of the 360's biggest games so it's unfair to think
that it will get demolished in a day match. --- Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 11:05:12 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #462 Man, you have a lot of unwarranted faith in SoulCalibur II being worth a crap or you're really underestimating Wind Waker (which is pretty common around here). GoW2 would probably beat SC2 pretty easily. Wind Waker is going to wreck Oblivion (Ulti-style, although pushing 60% honestly wouldn't surprise me. I've really lost faith in Oblivion being all that good). From: xp1337 | #451 Wind Waker would beat Fallout 3. And Wind Waker would beat Majora's Mask if it somehow manages to beat G/S/C. From: XxSoulxX | #472 Wind Waker's closer to TP than a lot of people are willing to give it credit for, I'd imagine. Not sure why you think GoW2 is so much weaker than the original though. --- "Hold on a minute! That testimony stinks!" "Witness! You can't just say 'Hello' and expect us to get anywhere! I want you to testify!" |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:05:12 AM | message detail |
Wait, somebody believes Oblivion will beat a console 3D Zelda? Now THERE is a match I'd love to bet a testicle and a sig on. It's a freebie. --- Alec not at home |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 12/3/2010 11:06:37 AM | message detail |
Am
I the only one who thinks it being a day match favors Oblivion even
more? Oblivion and Morrowind have always shown to be better in the day
and we've already seen Mario can easily lose the day vote(NSMB vs MvC2). --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:07:36 AM | message detail |
In fact, I'd toss in a spread. Zelda definitely tops 53% there. I'd probably feel pretty confident about 54% too. --- Alec not at home |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 11:08:32 AM | message detail |
I don't think WW/Oblivion's final percentage will be much different regardless of whether it's a day match or a night match. And modern Mario is pretty bad at the day vote, for whatever the reason. Galaxy sucks with the day vote, too. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 11:08:47 AM | message detail |
Not sure why you think GoW2 is so much weaker than the original though. The original is usually always stronger than every game afterwards, with the exception of obvious series' (SSB, Mario Kart, Street Fighter, Resident Evil). I don't see GoW2 being close to GoW. Wait, somebody believes Oblivion will beat a console 3D Zelda? Not that I know of, but it could be close. --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:08:57 AM | message detail |
Wind Waker would beat Fallout 3. ...what. Zelda is a monster, but there are limits to what its lesser games can do here. I'd take Fallout 3 against WW with no doubts. I don't even think WW gets to 45%. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
XxSoulxX | Posted 12/3/2010 11:09:51 AM | message detail |
In fact, I'd toss in a spread. Zelda definitely tops 53% there. I'd probably feel pretty confident about 54% too. I predicted between 52/48 and 54/46. Don't know who you're arguing against... --- "Calling Pokemon RBY a top 10 game was the most insane contest jibba-jabba ever Woe unto he who sig bets with the near-invincible Lord High creativename |
KamikazePotato | Posted 12/3/2010 11:10:10 AM | message detail |
Wind Waker did better on God of War II than Oblivion did on Soul Calibur II. That says it all. I would set TTYD=Paper Mario. --- DFF |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 11:12:39 AM | message detail |
From: XxSoulxX | #478 I buy GoW1 being stronger, but it's the much stronger I'd take issue with. From: xp1337 | #479 Man, Fallout 3 getting 55% on Wind Waker? You are either overestimating how strong FO3 is or underestimating how strong WW is. Probably both. --- Support Otacon (Metal Gear Solid) for Character Battle IX! http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/1950/banner4otacon.jpg |
MegatokyoEd | Posted 12/3/2010 11:13:14 AM | message detail |
I'd take Fallout 3 against WW with no doubts. I don't even think WW gets to 45%. ....is this for real? --- Demyx is better than Axel. http://www.last.fm/user/crazydom |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:13:23 AM | message detail |
Wind
Waker breaks 45% on Fallout 3 easily. Fallout 3 got 43% on MGS4 last
year, so it'd struggle to put up 40% on Melee/Brawl. Wind Waker got 35%
on Melee, after SFF. For WW to fail to break 45% on FO3, the SFF it
suffered against Melee would have had to been minimal, and this is a
case where I'd believe there was massive SFF before believing there was
minimal SFF. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:14:09 AM | message detail |
Not
as much arguing, but I'm guessing between 54% and 58% with a small
margin of error on either edge. And probably more of a bias towards
55-56% --- Alec not at home |
transience | Posted 12/3/2010 11:14:40 AM | message detail |
55% on Wind Waker would probably beat FFX. --- xyzzy |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:15:24 AM | message detail |
Man, Fallout 3 getting 55% on Wind Waker? You are either overestimating how strong FO3 is or underestimating how strong WW is. Probably both. Well, compared to what I've put together from your expectations here, I'd agree with probably both! --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
ShatteredElysium | Posted 12/3/2010 11:16:34 AM | message detail |
I'd
take WW over Fallout without a second thought. Match would probably be
close (52-54 ish for WW?) but I don't know, I just wouldn't have faith
whatsoever in Fallout to put away a Zelda. --- Crucifying my Oracle average one match at a time |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 11:17:17 AM | message detail |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3493 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html?poll=3501 Well, neither of these performances strikes me as a "I can get 55% on Wind Waker." Especially after what we've seen CoD4 do this contest. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
transience | Posted 12/3/2010 11:17:47 AM | message detail |
wait, how can you think Fallout could crush Zelda and Paper Mario could beat Oblivion? that's just weird. --- xyzzy |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:18:31 AM | message detail |
From: transience | #486 55% on Wind Waker would probably beat FFX. ...Are you guys messing with me? Or am I seriously underestimating WW that much? I'd believe it, but seriously what? I could see that if we took Spring 2004 xstats at face value or something. I mean, what are we even basing WW's strength off of? It was stuck behind Melee in lol4ways, and has gone up against AC2. That's all I can see. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:20:58 AM | message detail |
... everything becomes clear now. My view on Fallout 3 has been permanently frozen on that [lol] Game of the Year poll. I literally forgot it was even in the last contest! Well, that's totally embarrassing! Okay, yeah, I'll admit Fallout 3 getting 55% on WW is lolz, but I'm still wondering how 55% on WW became a threat to FFX though. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:22:00 AM | message detail |
It
got 35% on Melee after SFF, so I'd expect 40%+ before SFF. That God of
War 2 match suggests it's substantially above 40%. 55% on Metroid Prime
from back in 2004 suggests much the same thing. Starcraft is Starcraft,
but how much could it have boosted in 4 days? Well, a lot, evidently,
but more than 10% seems unlikely even for Starcraft. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 11:22:04 AM | message detail |
From: xp1337 | #491 I think so. But I'm the guy who for some reason believes in Wind Waker's strength despite having zero rooting interest in the game. Wind Waker has never really gotten a chance to prove itself until it put up 64% on God of War 2, which isn't going to be a weak game. It rocked RE5 and Metroid Fusion in the vote-ins, which both proved to be decently strong games (and RE5 got decently close to the original God of War, to boot). That's enough for me. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
xp1337 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:22:37 AM | message detail |
From: transience | #490 wait, how can you think Fallout could crush Zelda and Paper Mario could beat Oblivion? that's just weird. Key word: "could" And I don't know. All I know is that my gut is telling me it's possible, even though every time I analyze it logically I come up with, "No, that's silly." --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (97/114) Paper Mario v WoW |
LeonhartFour | Posted 12/3/2010 11:23:53 AM | message detail |
All I know is that it's going to be a fun day when Wind Waker beats Oblivion, especially if it actually approaches 60%. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonpngpe.png http://img.imgcake.com/squalloweenpngem.png |
red sox 777 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:24:24 AM | message detail |
Wasn't
Wind Waker favored to win the 128 division back in 2004? I think FFX
was the favorite actually, but WW had more brackets than Melee. --- Nominate Crono so he can get a higher seed and avoid being fed to Clinkeroth early in the contest. |
Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/3/2010 11:24:58 AM | message detail |
I believe the percentage will be less than 33% for this match... --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Hochimihnister | Posted 12/3/2010 11:25:49 AM | message detail |
Zelda has done nothing but disappoint me all contest. I will be floored if WW can break 54% on Oblivion |
Hochimihnister | Posted 12/3/2010 11:27:28 AM | message detail |
Floored |
