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UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/1/2010 9:05:21 PM | message detail
The pic is a lie.



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A = Strongest Character
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To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.

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PepeCamello | Posted 12/1/2010 9:30:35 PM | message detail
One time I was tied with UltimaterializerX for first place in the contest he won.
And then SMB3 lost to Chrono Trigger and I lost my chance to win.

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TheCodeisBosco | Posted 12/1/2010 10:25:07 PM | message detail
So, uh... why isn't Portal dying yet? >_> I'm seriously starting to wonder if RE4 should watch its back.

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-Tofa7- | Posted 12/1/2010 10:25:09 PM | message detail
So I guess FFXII really doesn't have that much strength after all.
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greatone10 | Posted 12/1/2010 10:32:03 PM | message detail
Well, about time.
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ctesjbuvf | Posted 12/1/2010 10:32:43 PM | message detail
Now I see a pic.
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Blairville | Posted 12/1/2010 10:33:29 PM | message detail
Aw, no Companion Cube.

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ZFS | Posted 12/1/2010 10:35:38 PM | message detail
Figured something like this would happen here. There wasn't too much reason to believe FFXII had a real shot at this one, not after how it did against Crisis Core and what Portal did to Gears. Figured FFXII could have managed 41-42%, though.

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transience | Posted 12/1/2010 10:38:06 PM | message detail
christ, at this rate the debate for the next round will be Vice City vs. FF12. FF, you suck this year.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2010 10:39:08 PM | message detail
Hmm, apparently Portal spiked on the first update after the pic went up. Could be that Portal is benefitting from the presence of a pic.
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/1/2010 10:40:04 PM | message detail
Portal's going up slightly.

The hell?
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/1/2010 10:41:18 PM | message detail
Oh, the pic. That could do it. Portal's pic captures the game surprisingly well for not having either of its two beloved characters.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/1/2010 10:42:05 PM | message detail
I don't know how to look them up, but does anyone have the Gurus and Oracles for MGS2/SotC? Am I really the only one who thinks that MGS2 winning would be the upset?
-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2010 10:43:42 PM | message detail
It looks like the number of incoming votes has increased slightly since the pic went up. Here were the number of votes for every update starting from 1:00 AM:

1:00 AM | 423
1:05 AM | 449
1:10 AM | 434
1:15 AM | 369
1:20 AM | 373
1:25 AM | 355
1:30 AM | 352
1:35 AM | 399
1:40 AM | 412
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ChichiriMuyo | Posted 12/1/2010 10:44:09 PM | message detail
I wish I wouldn't have chickened out and banked on this match. At least I got it right for my bracket.
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transience | Posted 12/1/2010 10:47:43 PM | message detail
http://thengamer.com/guru/
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transience | Posted 12/1/2010 10:47:52 PM | message detail
er, damn. go to match 92.
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transience | Posted 12/1/2010 10:51:47 PM | message detail
looks like last round was more Gears than Portal. given how Paper Mario 2 / Gears 1 went, it kinda makes sense. Gears might have the worst opening vote of all time.
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Janus5000 | Posted 12/1/2010 10:52:32 PM | message detail
SotC has never looked -bad-, but MGS2 just feels a lot safer. I can't imagine The Sims being worth anything.

Can't imagine Banjo-Tooie being worth much more, but still.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/1/2010 10:53:27 PM | message detail
So it's 213 to 17 in favor of MGS2 by the Gurus. That does not bode well for me at all. I really don't think MGS2 will win though and I am way too far behind to bank. Oh well, this could be either awesome for me or very embarrassing.
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/1/2010 10:56:02 PM | message detail
So this is basically just who would we take, Banjo-Tooie vs. The Sims? I still think I go with the Sims on that one. I can't find any data to back up going with MGS2, and now I'm actually looking for it.
UltimaterializerX | Posted 12/1/2010 10:58:21 PM | message detail
Proof that pictures really do matter.
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ZFS | Posted 12/1/2010 11:00:33 PM | message detail
To be fair, FFXII got a pretty shoddy picture here.

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-Tofa7- | Posted 12/1/2010 11:01:02 PM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | Posted: 12/2/2010 5:53:27 PM | #020
So it's 213 to 17 in favor of MGS2 by the Gurus. That does not bode well for me at all. I really don't think MGS2 will win though and I am way too far behind to bank. Oh well, this could be either awesome for me or very embarrassing.


Don't bank, but don't pick SoTC either. The Guru's don't get it right every time, but MGS2 is a firm favorite, and is next to guaranteed to win. Picking against it would really be grasping at straws tbqh.

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transience | Posted 12/1/2010 11:02:45 PM | message detail
not really. it's gone up .03% since the picture got added.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/1/2010 11:03:18 PM | message detail
Why is MGS2 such a firm favorite though? No stats back that up. We're assuming MGS love here and the seeding from the nominations alone should show us that that necessarily hols true for MGS2.
ZFS | Posted 12/1/2010 11:04:36 PM | message detail
It's best to bet on Metal Gear Solid 2, if you're wanting the safe choice. You can reason a win for MGS much more easily than you can for Shadow of the Colossus, but I don't think it's as clear cut as some people think. SOTC will, at the very least, make that match close.

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syco_coaster | Posted 12/1/2010 11:04:52 PM | message detail
SotC is such a polarizing game that it will even have anti-votes. It's a niche game as well, and if I were hochi I would call it "hipster." MGS2 is a good installment in a beloved series. Everything seems in favor of MGS2.

I don't see how this match is under discussion, really. It'll be interesting to be shown I'm wrong, though. PM:TTYD vs. Oblivion seems like the next tough match to call, and in my mind is the only remaining difficult call in the second round.
Janus5000 | Posted 12/1/2010 11:06:21 PM | message detail
MGS2 just feels a lot safer. I'd feel weird banking on a cult game like SotC, and blowing out a game that I can't imagine this site likes at all doesn't make it look much better.
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Azp2k32 | Posted 12/1/2010 11:06:56 PM | message detail

From: TheOneAboveAll | #001
Why is MGS2 such a firm favorite though? No stats back that up. We're assuming MGS love here and the seeding from the nominations alone should show us that that necessarily hols true for MGS2.


It's the least popular game in the series, and it still got a 7 seed. It's not a game that's hated to the point of being anti-voted by its own fan base. Just enough to not necessarily get the nomination from its fans like MGS3 and 4 would be.
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TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/1/2010 11:10:19 PM | message detail
That's true, but it's not loved enough either that fans of MGS 3 or 4 will vote for it over another decently popular (even if it is a niche) game.
TheOneAboveAll | Posted 12/1/2010 11:11:37 PM | message detail
By the way, I can already see what the outcome of this will be. I'm gonna switch to MGS2 at the last second (which I just checked and actually picked in my bracket) and then SotC will win.
transience | Posted 12/1/2010 11:13:22 PM | message detail
if you believe in it, go for it. one cool thing about the battle contest is that you can wipe everyone out with one upset pick.

but know that your chances of being correct are probably lower.
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LeonhartFour | Posted 12/1/2010 11:29:40 PM | message detail
Whew, finally got internet back! Charts forthcoming in bulk later on today!
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/1/2010 11:32:04 PM | message detail
Are you finally back, amigo? It was... surprisingly strange around here with only 2 Leon posts per topic.
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-LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2010 11:36:05 PM | message detail
Whew, finally got internet back! Charts forthcoming in bulk later on today!

That would take up too many posts to post the huge backlog of charts. You would be better off hosting all of your trend charts on Google Spreadsheets (which I heavily use myself), and then posting the spreadsheet link in this topic.
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EvilNcr | Posted 12/2/2010 12:15:57 AM | message detail
I never thought FFXII would be THAT weak.
I eagerly await Portal's next matchup to have some kind of idea if it was FFXII or Portal being strong.
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fluffyflyingpig | Posted 12/2/2010 12:42:33 AM | message detail
Portal to the quarterfinals!





please?
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Lightning Strikes | Posted 12/2/2010 12:51:54 AM | message detail
Eh, Mass Effect could still have this. Let's face it,, FFXII is garbage one on one. It's the most hated Final Fantasy to the point where not only do very few FF fans like it, if they do like it it will never be that much. We've known this since it struggled with a none-too-popular PSP game last round, Black Haired Cloud or not.
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PartOfYourWorld | Posted 12/2/2010 1:01:33 AM | message detail

From: Lightning Strikes | #039
Eh, Mass Effect could still have this.


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transience | Posted 12/2/2010 1:09:20 AM | message detail
Mass Effect would need to beat Skies worse than Portal's beating FF12 to have a shot. it would need to probably beat it as bad as it beat Plants vs. Zombies.

...yeah
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shane15 | Posted 12/2/2010 1:48:14 AM | message detail
Well i'm officially ****ed as far as this contest goes as i had FF12 in the div final...But i'm happy because Persona 4 beat DR :D
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/2/2010 3:02:06 AM | message detail
Well my last change to get into leaderboard died.2 wrong matches in a row,first time in this contest and both on 2nd roung?Man why Portal is so strong?I mean if MW can barely beat Dissidia how can a FPS that hasn't multiplayer beats a main FF title?I don't get it.
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shane15 | Posted 12/2/2010 3:15:10 AM | message detail
It's this site.They can't pick a series and stick to it.That said i think portal is pretty bad and never did understand the hype for it.
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-Tofa7- | Posted 12/2/2010 3:18:36 AM | message detail
People complain when games from the series dominate the competition over and over again. Then they complain when games from these series lose because it costs them contest points.

Never change, GameFAQs.

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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/2/2010 3:19:24 AM | message detail
Awww man this site sucks!Nah that is okay.Still I don't understand there comes a game and suddenly everyone here goes huge for it.I mean a FPS more than 60% on a main FF title?Didn't think I would ever seen that.
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Safer Sephiroth 777 | Posted 12/2/2010 3:38:44 AM | message detail
Well I just can't understand why Portal is considered good.No multiplayer and very short.Plus you say that but I bet that if a Legend Of Zelda was losing now all Hell would break loose here.
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Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 12/2/2010 3:55:06 AM | message detail

From: ZFS | #023
To be fair, FFXII got a pretty shoddy picture here.


Should be happy that it doesn't have Vaan plastered all over it. :P
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/2/2010 4:26:51 AM | message detail
Hey, Leonhart!

Portal didn't need multi-player to be innovative, fun, or tell a great story. Besides, its sequel is adding a co-op mode and will be significantly longer, so you have a reason to give the series a second chance now.
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HaRRicH | Posted 12/2/2010 4:34:55 AM | message detail
Oh, and Portal may keep FF12 under 40% afterall...fantastic.
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